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post #21 of 37
I'm sorry honey!

My bff had this same thing happen with her baby, as did my SIL (both born late spring) and they are still just slow gainers. As long as he continues his "curve" he may just BE that way! It doesn't always mean something is wrong, although it IS good to double check. Big huge hugs!
post #22 of 37
Oh mama, no advice, just sad for you greensad.gif This has to be so tremendously stressful, and on top of PP hormones... I'd agree with others that it's possible he's just a slow gainer. From all of your beautiful FB photos, he looks very healthy and alert. Green poops are usually a sign of too MUCH milk, not not having enough. Anecdotally, when we were in the hospital with Martha, and I was so stressed, I used their super sweet medical grade pump. I only got 1 lousy ounce. At home I usually get 3 or 4 ounces! So even with the best pump, stress matters.
post #23 of 37

Veggie: have you tried probiotics?  Like I stated in an earlier post DS' poops start out yellow in the am and then by evening, they are more green than yellow.  He had a little stomach bug for a few days so I put him on probiotics and it's seemed to help out with his poops.  It could be purely coincidence seeing we've hit the 6 week mark and my milk seems a little more stable but I'm going to stick with it for a bit.

 

post #24 of 37
Thread Starter 
So.

I decided to go to see a IBCLC. She works with Alison Hazelbaker (tongue tied author and creator of the finger feeder). He is tongue tied, has a seriously uncoordinated and dysfunctional suck, and only took it 1/2 ounce at the feeding. She said she was surprised he hadn't lost more. He was down 2 ounces. Beyond frustrated and SO so sad. He's had to have formula in the finger feeder. I didn't have ANY choice. I have been pumping around the clock but I am thrilled if I even get one ounce. She said my supply has probably suffered because he is just not able to get the milk out. He now is refusing the breast, at least the right side. My nipples are huge but even more huge now that I'm using the pump. She felt that was an issue too. He's just having a lot of trouble getting it out. So now I am using as much of my milk as possible, some formula, and trying to nurse when he's sleepy enough to take the boob without being upset. I feel like a damned idiot. The ONE time I don't freak out over supply. The one time I don't do constant weight checks. This is what happens? I'm so upset that he has to have any formula but right now there is just no other option. I see Alison Hazelbaker on Monday and hope to get him back on the breast more. Tuesday off to the dentist to hopefully get his tongue clipped. Besides the bottom, he also has a slight issue on top (not sure what?). Rented scale and pump. So worn out and sad. It's lucky if I get a bite to eat during the day. Every minute is spent either feeding him or pumping. Luckily I called the ped and told her what was going on and she agreed to just let me monitor his weight at home. Upped my dom to 160. If anyone has tips on how to get more out of the pump please help me! The only time ANY milk comes out is during a let down. I barely get an ounce and that's FORTY FIVE MINUTES OF PUMPING! Just got the SNS in the mail and will be using that as well. Some finger feeding, some SNS, and some nursing. Trying my best.
post #25 of 37

NAK

 

I started zoloft in my third trimester and am still taking it and breastfeeding. Augustus has been growing like a weed. I would talk to your doctor before stopping. Very very small amounts make it into your breastmilk (if any at all) and there are a lot of other things that are more likely to be affecting his weight gain.

 

My second child has a cows milk protein intolerance that caused problems before I narrowed it down to dairy in my diet. She had green poop but I don't remember if there was mucous. She did have slow weight gain and a few severe diaper rashes. She still hasn't outgrown it (she's almost two) and she will still have weird poop and a rash if she gets ahold of anything with milk in it.

 

ETA: I didn't see your most recent post before I replied. Sorry mama! I haven't pumped in 7 years so I don't really have any advice.

post #26 of 37
Thread Starter 
nak- tamera i decided to stay on it. thx for the input!

i just pumped again and only got drops. at least hes up to 10.1 today but i guess its the formula. cry greensad.gif
post #27 of 37
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Originally Posted by veggiemomto2 View Post

nak- tamera i decided to stay on it. thx for the input!

i just pumped again and only got drops. at least hes up to 10.1 today but i guess its the formula. cry greensad.gif


I'm very sorry if you've said and I missed it, but have you only used the one pump? Because that can make a HUGE difference.

post #28 of 37

hug2.gif I know your heart is breaking, but I have to offer hugs.  You are such a good mama, and you will get thru this.

 

I dont know much about domperidone, but i had good results increasing pumping output with More Milk Plus tincture.  http://www.motherlove.com/product/530-More-Milk-Plus.html

post #29 of 37

veggiemom---

     i am so sorry this is going on for you. i totally know this particular heartache. greensad.gif   hug2.gif

 i am a few weeks further down the road then you.....(nursing, pumping, fingerfeeding, herbs, etc, etc.).....and it truly does get easier, even though everything is still not exactly where i want it to be.

     as for pumping, massaging the breasts before and during the pumping session, as well as compression, helped to boost my often pathetic output for the pump. i will also "powerpump" after y goes down for the night; pumping for 15 mins, resting for fifteen, pumping for fifteen, etc etc while i watch a movie or catch up on e-mail. also: if you are good at handexpressing, do that instead of or after pumping. i know that i allllllways have milk in my breasts after pumping. the pump just doesn't do it for me. that might be the case for you?

      it will get easier! i know this is a crappy club to be a part of, but at least you aren't alone.

 

                                      

 

post #30 of 37
So sorry for your heartache, from another SNS, formula, herb-using mama (too tired to pump)! Have you used the SNS before? It has a learning curve, so don't get discouraged too easily hug.gif And remember, unless your supply is zero, it's not all formula - every ounce you make counts! I hope as your LO gets stronger, tongue clipped, etc., you see your supply rebound hugely!
post #31 of 37
Oh, can you take your pump in when you see your LC and make sure your settings, flange sizes, etc., are all good? I found out this time I'd pumped with too-small flanges all last time!
post #32 of 37
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Originally Posted by justthinkn View Post

Oh, can you take your pump in when you see your LC and make sure your settings, flange sizes, etc., are all good? I found out this time I'd pumped with too-small flanges all last time!



justthinkn-

 

     how should the flanges fit? the cup part always seems too large for my breasts, while the nipple "tunnel" seems too small. hmm. maybe i should google.

 

post #33 of 37

oh, and veggie mom, i meant to add this link last time. it really helped me to put time into perspective.

 

http://www.normalfed.com/Help/babyget.html 

post #34 of 37
Haven't figured out links on current device, sorry, but medela has some good articles with images about fit, I think! I ended up w 30mm (v 24) as best fit, nipples rubbing least on sides w/out breast tissue slapping around in a too big cup!
post #35 of 37
Veggiemom, this may seem silly and simple, but when I do need to pump, it seems to help me to look at photos of my babies. I'm pretty sure that's kind of a pumping 101 sort of suggestion, but it seems to help my milk flow.
post #36 of 37

You mentioned that you didn't have a lot of time you eat. I found with my 2nd that if I didn't eat a TON, to hunger and then some, then my supply suffered. Plenty of protein and very little grains are the best for fussiness/gassiness I have found.

I hate that I am carrying 10 extra lbs right now, but I don't want to cut calories out of concern for my supply. It sucks to change your diet, but it is worth it for baby :)

post #37 of 37
I'm so sorry, mama. hug.gif Kudos to you for working so hard to improve the breastfeeding! A really helpful pumping tip I got was: Don't watch the bag/bottle. When I looked elsewhere and thought about DD latching and sucking the milk came out better. Keep us posted!
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