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post #101 of 514

I can't read anything by Dr. Amy....

post #102 of 514
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Originally Posted by sosurreal09 View Post

I can't read anything by Dr. Amy....



Ditto.  I refuse.  It's not good for my blood pressure. 

post #103 of 514

Ohhh right!!! This woman!!! The "doctor" from "Harvard" who just doesn't seem to exist, but LIVES to answer emails and forum questions 24/7 and somehow has still "delivered" thousands of babies? 

She makes me want to punch something..

post #104 of 514

Hi Ladies,

 I love reading this thread and lurking. I have never had a homebirth, but have had drug free hospital births.  But man, that is hard.  Because I always freak out during transition (even with hypnobabies and water pools!) and want drugs! And they are like, "oh we have drugs for you" and I have to be like "I don't really want drugs.  but I want to push!"

 

 

I would love to have a home birth and would love to have a UC.  So I will read along with this thread and lurk and see what I can learn!  :)

post #105 of 514

I know it is early, but any one started planning their homebirth?

 

I want a tub like birth with sol use to have. Now that website is defunct, but I really liked that pool and can't find it anywhere else. The midwife has one, but not too keen on using it as I used one like it for my last birth.

 

I bought a birth ball, that will be good for early and active labor

 

Thinking of music, I'm not a huge music person during birth, but I would like something.

 

Not sure what to do with my kids during birth. Not real confident having the babysitter here. Would like the kids here for pushing and birth. Got to get that figured out. Maybe ask the midwife if her teenage kids might be willing to watch kids? Dunno her well enough to ask yet.

 

Thinking of cleaning out the bedroom of every thing but bed and birth pool. I have lovely double doors that open to the outside and though it will probably be cold, I think sunlight would be very soothing during labor.

 

 

In case of transport:

Going to pack a hosp bag just in case and have it in the van in case of emergency. Hospital is over an hour trip to and fro. Will have numbers for a police/ambulance escort if need be (live on very rural roads where people sometimes go 20mph oblivious to the fact you're having an emergency/flashing lights/hazard lights - that could make the trip there over an hour 1 way) . Also will have number for L&D to tell them we're coming.

 

 

Back to the home birth:

 

~buying hydrogyn peroxide - good for any blood stains and to clean the peri area to check for tears

~ postpartum pads - think I will make some perhaps

 

Ordered calendula - will make some calendula oil

 

Just random thoughts :)

post #106 of 514
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Originally Posted by Just1More View Post

Plummeting- :dizzy  Wow.  I read the whole thing and all the comments, too.  My dh is asleep on the floor with the kids in our hotel room.  Oops.  I really don't know what to think about all that.  It really, really annoys me not to be able to tell if someone is telling the truth.  I certainly don't like her tone, but that's not cause to shoot the messenger.  Sigh.  As far as her saying hospital birth is safer than homebirth...well, I didn't look up her study, but I suspect it's skewed.  The catch about homebirth vs hospital is that the hospital is GOING to have a much worse record.  They have to take that hit because they have to treat anyone who walks through the door.  If a mama experiences a placental abruption and transfers, it isn't the midwife who takes that mark.  It's the receiving hospital.  But, that's also what makes homebirth safe.

 

I'm not exactly sure what you're referring to when you're saying you can't tell if someone is telling the truth. Do you mean that she may be lying about what happened? Or lying about the safety of hospital vs. home birth? Or not lying about anything? I'm not sure I understand. I accused her of constantly attacking home and natural birthers, and the evidence to support that is all over the internet. lol I'm not shooting the messenger because of her tone in this article. I can't tell if you know who Dr. Amy is or not, but if you google her, you'll see she's quite infamous. She's had several blogs, and she visits all kinds of other blogs to leave her mark, making sure we all know how dangerous home birth is (in her opinion).

 

I actually have read each and every study Dr. Amy uses to support her claims, plus all the ones that refute her claims. I used them as references for a 27 page paper I wrote in nursing school, so I'm pretty familiar with all sorts of studies comparing home birth to hospital birth and midwife attended birth to OB attended birth. The catch about home birth vs. hospital birth is not a catch in a well-conducted study. In a good study, your stats count as stats for your planned group, so if you plan a home birth, but you wind up with a c-section, that c-section counts as a c-section for the home birth group. There have been a few studies that looked at this topic in an appropriate way like that. The studies Dr. Tuteur uses to scare people are ones that count any out of hospital birth (like by a homeless drug addict who had no prenatal care and birthed in a gutter) as a "home birth" whether it was planned or not, so if you give birth on the side of the highway with your 3yo in the car, after planning a hospital birth all the way through, those studies count you as a "home birth". That sort of study is a skewed study, and it is skewed towards making home birth appear less safe than it actually is.

post #107 of 514

Onemore- I'm semi planning already. I had my first visit with the midwives, and they say that so far I meet the criteria for homebirth- distance from hospital and location seem fine, but they want to do a home visit at about 34-36 weeks to make sure the house is fit. I don't see that being an issue, though.

They gave me a list of stuff to have on hand. I think the list is INSANE- 25 chux pads? Please! 10 bath towels, 6 receiving blankets, oil, a crock pot (?), and on and on and on. Most of it is stuff I have already but seeing it all on a list got my mental wheels turning.

 

I have a Born in Water birth pool. I'm debating setting it up. I didn't find it helpful for pain relief at all in birth, but did find it helpful for position changes. I definitely don't want to birth in the tub this time, too much hassle for clean up IMO.

 

If my brother has moved out by then (hoping he has) I'm debating moving his double bed into the living room. Birth pool in the kitchen, kids can go downstairs/upstairs to play with Grandma or hang around. Whatever they want.

 

I would like to get a birth ball. I didn't use it much for either birth but I like it to sit on in pregnancy and for bouncing baby later.

I don't care at all about music, but I might make a playlist of music I like otherwise my husband will put on what HE likes (and I dislike), because he can't function without music. So annoying.

 

Homeopathy, herbs, sitz baths, creams, etc have never been needed before so I won't bother with those. My needs for birth are pretty low key, honestly. Someone to watch the kids and bring me drinks and I'm happy.

 

Packing a birth center/hospital bag for sure. Midwives said homebirth is great unless they're really busy at the birth center and then I need ot come there. Oh well.

post #108 of 514

OneMore and Astraia-I'm thinking about things a bit, too.  I put everything in a bin right after my last birth, and put it in the basement, so I have still have a lot of things prepped.  I'm more debating about which midwife. 

 

Pros for the one I used last time: very flexible, happy to be very hands off and do it my way. 

Cons: far away and doesn't come here for any appointments, even at the end.  Is okay with me skipping appts, though.

 

For a different midwife:

Pros: closer and easier to go to appts

Cons: while closer, traffic is an issue and might miss the birth, and less flexible so wants a bunch of tests I generally skip.

 

Huh.  Typing it out makes it pretty obvious I should go with choice number 1.  I guess I just want the ease of hearing the heartbeat a little more maybe.  I don't have concerns, or an "off" feeling.  I just don't like the idea of driving more than an hour one way just to hear the heartbeat and check my blood pressure.  Arg.  I dunno.

 

Plummeting- No, no doubt Dr. Amy is anti-homebirth, and really skews things for that purpose.  I meant (about telling the truth), that I couldn't tell if she was even telling the truth in her article about that lady.  I believe that kind of thing happens, but I just don't trust her to give account of it.

post #109 of 514

Regarding the Dr. Amy - I don't think she is truthful or loving at all.

If it wasn't home birth she was obsessed on tearing down, it could just as easily be any thing else. Anything.

All I get is pride, pride, pride out of her blog. The whole thing is about stroking ones ego.

Which is funny, cause she attacks the homebirth side with just that accusation.

Oh well, free country.

 

Just1more, have you thought of renting a doppler? You could even buy one used and resell it for near the same amount when the preg is over $75 or so. Your mw office might have one to loan. That would help with the heartbeat issue. I am considering doing just that or buying a low tech device for later on.

 

Astraia - 25 chux pads is insane, but I am a waterbirther so I don't know. The crock pot is probably for keeping the recieving blankets warm?  I'm pretty low key, except for the birth pool. I can't imagine having a baby on land as all 3 have been wb. Pushing time has been less than a half hour for the first to less than 10 minutes for the last - the water helps soothe my girl parts as these 10 pound babies shoot out. LOL

 

The one must for labor are straws. haha

 

The midwife assistant has been a midwife for 31 years and I have read nothing but wonderful things about her too.  plus they are not recent graduates of the hippy midwifery college in our state. I don't really like their new age philosophies they teach.

post #110 of 514

Onemore-doppler...great idea.  Will think about that.  And, well said about Dr. Amy.

post #111 of 514

Oh man, you guys are so WAY ahead of me as far as planning goes.  I am just now on calling a local midwife so I can hear this baby's heartbeat.  Other than that, and maybe one more check up, for an u/s, I don't think I'm going to do any more appts until we move and I am able to meet with the midwife who is actually going to attend this birth.

post #112 of 514

My MW just has a kit you can buy I think.

 

How do you think the house could be "unfit" for a HB? (my apartment is really small)

 

 

Anyone else not sleeping? I can not sleep for the life of me. I am lucky if I can stay asleep until 3am...This has been the whole pregnancy and it really sux!

post #113 of 514

I noticed I don't sleep so well either, Sos. I am the last one to bed and first one up, and outside of the couple days where I was just falling asleep every time I sat down - I am back to the not sleeping so well stage.

 

 

Now, regarding the question how could a house be unfit for a homebirth?
I'm guessing....

Some homes could be too far from medical care and that could make them unfit in some eyes. Other houses could be too dirty, and that could make it unfit for a birth (though I would argue atleast the babe is accustomed to those germs already haha)...Really, thats all I can think of.

Why do you ask?

post #114 of 514

Just1- Definitely go with the first one! Second one would stress me out and aggravate me so badly, almost immediately.

 

Onemore- I was not a fan of the waterbirth. I didn't have any tearing or anything with my WB baby, but I wanted so badly to get out of that tub. I'm not very vocal in labour (as in, can't talk) so I couldn't tell anyone I wanted OUT and no one asked <shrug> And so I stayed, because I couldn't seem to figure out how to get out on my own. The boyancy was nice while changing positions, my pushing phase was LONG for both of them (2 hrs+, both posterior babies though), but I so badly wanted the help of gravity by the end.

 

Sossurreal- what the midwives said for determining if the house was fit was that the area I wanted to birth in would fit them and their equipment as needed, proper room for paramedics to get in and out if I needed transport ASAP, and the house would be safe (nothing falling down, exposed wires, etc). For my first homebirth they didn't do a homevisit- I described the house as an open-plan bungalow that was wheelchair accessible and well maintained and that was good enough for them.

 

I had tea with caffeine at 4 pm and now I'm wide awake. But I'm freezing so I might go curl up in bed anyway. We shall see.

 

 

 

post #115 of 514
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Originally Posted by Just1More View Post
Plummeting- No, no doubt Dr. Amy is anti-homebirth, and really skews things for that purpose.  I meant (about telling the truth), that I couldn't tell if she was even telling the truth in her article about that lady.  I believe that kind of thing happens, but I just don't trust her to give account of it.


Ah, got it. I wasn't sure what you meant, exactly. Thank you for explaining.

 

I will have my first midwife appt Nov. 19th. Seems like forever away, but I will probably get to hear the heartbeat before then because I'll be getting shadow care from the military OB's until 20 weeks, so I'm glad for that.

post #116 of 514
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Pros for the one I used last time: very flexible, happy to be very hands off and do it my way. 

Cons: far away and doesn't come here for any appointments, even at the end.  Is okay with me skipping appts, though.

 

For a different midwife:

Pros: closer and easier to go to appts

Cons: while closer, traffic is an issue and might miss the birth, and less flexible so wants a bunch of tests I generally skip.

 

Huh.  Typing it out makes it pretty obvious I should go with choice number 1.  I guess I just want the ease of hearing the heartbeat a little more maybe.  I don't have concerns, or an "off" feeling.  I just don't like the idea of driving more than an hour one way just to hear the heartbeat and check my blood pressure.  Arg.  I dunno.

 

 

My midwife is an hour+ away. I hate driving up there with 4 little boys, although our visits are usually over an hour or so. But she's totally cool with me skipping appointments here and there and just emailing her my "stats". (I'm a L&D nurse and have a doppler to check heart tones if I want). She does come for one visit at the end of my pregnancy to make sure she knows where I live. :) She is totally hands off and way awesome! I'd drive 2 hours to see her. I would suggest renting a doppler or you can buy them sometimes on ebay for a reasonable amount. 

 

As for planning, I'm a bit of a planner anyway so I have things kind of lined out. My last homebirth (my first) was really hard for me to wrap my head around because I hadn't done it before or seen one. But now I know how I want it to go, it's a little easier to plan. My midwife also has a list, which is basic stuff like chux (yeah about 25), towels, crock pot for warm compresses and salt (for blood stains...works way better than peroxide and isn't as harsh). 

 

I plan on using the fishy pool (although it's gone up about $30 since I got mine last time). I have an exercise ball already. I will have comfrey to soak some pads in and freeze for compresses after the birth. So far though that's really all I have planned out. I had such an amazing experience last time that I'm really going into this birth quite chill. I'm stoked. 

post #117 of 514

I've been planning my home birth since before I got pregnant.  lol  I have pretty much everything figured out.  I haven't started buying supplies yet though.  I'll start gathering things here and there soon. 

 

I don't want a water birth, so that's a huge thing that I don't have to worry about.  Everything else is pretty easy to find, and cheap.  Oh, except that I want new (really nice) bedding for after the birth.  I've been shopping for the perfect set and haven't come up with much yet.  :(  Most of the high thread count sheets are solids, and I want a pretty print. 

 

 

post #118 of 514


Where did you find the fishy pool?!?! Do tell, do tell!

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Originally Posted by babycatcher12 View Post

My midwife is an hour+ away. I hate driving up there with 4 little boys, although our visits are usually over an hour or so. But she's totally cool with me skipping appointments here and there and just emailing her my "stats". (I'm a L&D nurse and have a doppler to check heart tones if I want). She does come for one visit at the end of my pregnancy to make sure she knows where I live. :) She is totally hands off and way awesome! I'd drive 2 hours to see her. I would suggest renting a doppler or you can buy them sometimes on ebay for a reasonable amount. 

 

As for planning, I'm a bit of a planner anyway so I have things kind of lined out. My last homebirth (my first) was really hard for me to wrap my head around because I hadn't done it before or seen one. But now I know how I want it to go, it's a little easier to plan. My midwife also has a list, which is basic stuff like chux (yeah about 25), towels, crock pot for warm compresses and salt (for blood stains...works way better than peroxide and isn't as harsh). 

 

I plan on using the fishy pool (although it's gone up about $30 since I got mine last time). I have an exercise ball already. I will have comfrey to soak some pads in and freeze for compresses after the birth. So far though that's really all I have planned out. I had such an amazing experience last time that I'm really going into this birth quite chill. I'm stoked. 



 

post #119 of 514

You any of you have special plans for your other children yet? My daughter will be just about 2 1/2 in May and I'm feeling unsure now about whether to have her with us or not.

 

That was always what I pictured, and I know that a 2 1/2 year old is different than a 2 year old, but the daughter that I know right now will not allow herself to be cared for by another person while in the same house as me...:-) I'm a little unsure as to how it would all play out. Part of the reason for staying home is experiencing the birth as a family, but I can't have a clingy, whiny toddler climbing all over me while I'm giving birth! dizzy.gif

 

My mom and dh will be with me to support me, and maybe my dad will be around in the background, but dd will not be distracted by him for long. I'm thinking of asking my good friend and mother of 3 (all hb!) to come too to take care of dd, maybe play outside, go for walks if things get too loud, etc.

 

If this is not your first home birth with other children in your home, how did it work out?

post #120 of 514

Mine always slept.  I'm not sure what would happen during the day, but I just am counting on that not happening. :)

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