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[dashley111]

Are you comfortable with exploring up there?  For me, I have come to learn that its just the third-baby weak pelvic floor muscles.  The head kind of hangs out just in front of my cervix, causing pressure on my vaginal wall.   Everything is just...kind of...lower.  If that makes sense?

[2011mama]

My chiro doesn't do the Webster technique but he found me one who does. So in about 37 hours I'll be going to the new chiro to try the Webster technique. I'll be 36 weeks tomorrow. I'm really not convinced baby is breech. I've been feeling lots of movement up high, although that could be hands. I went to my "regular" chiro tonight and he said my pelvis was out so bad and my left leg was way shorter than the right; he thought even his adjustment (although not Webster) could help the baby flip if it is indeed breech. I haven't really felt that head in the ribs feeling that I first felt 10 days ago so I wonder if the baby was breech if it already flipped back. I'll never know of course.

[karmamamaa]

Head down today at midwife appt.

I'm so pleased...I think yoga helped more than inversions.

What a relief!

Stay baby stay....

[Jaimee]

Originally Posted by dashley111 

Are you comfortable with exploring up there?  For me, I have come to learn that its just the third-baby weak pelvic floor muscles.  The head kind of hangs out just in front of my cervix, causing pressure on my vaginal wall.   Everything is just...kind of...lower.  If that makes sense?

Hmm... yeah, I could see that.  Maybe I'll email my mw, too.  Next prenatal maybe she could do an internal and figure out what's hanging where. 
 

[dashley111]

If you only have the feeling of baby "falling out" when your standing, and a pelvic exam is done when your laying down, I would think it might feel different to her?  Im not sure, I never really ask for the doctors input, I would rather just figure it out myself   Chances are I wouldn't believe what he was going to say anyways!

[Jaimee]

Dunno... last night and today I've gotten the same feeling while sitting down, too.  But you're right, I'll be laying down and things probably won't hang where they do when I'm standing or even sitting.  I just thought perhaps she could tell if the head is pushing right into the cervix or if the head was pushing farther forward like others have discussed here.  She hasn't written me back yet, so I'll see what she says, too.

[IwannaBanRN]

Yay! I got him to flip by making the kids' beds today. lol I can feel his hiccups down low on my right side. Now please, son, please please engage your little head in my pelvis and stay there!

[Ajbaby]

I went to my chiro today. He palpated and said the same thing my mw said three weeks ago, her head is up by my ribs. Every time I think about it I just want to cry. I am 35 weeks today, in three weeks she hasn't budged. If she stays breech my midwife cannot deliver her, she would have to risk me out which means an automatic c/s. Ever since my son was a baby I have been researching everything birth, I do not want to have a hospital birth. Let alone be cut open. I know breech is just a variation of normal and it pisses me off that I would be forced into surgery just because the ob's and midwives are not taught how to do it.

This is honestly my worst nightmare. Damn it, now I am crying.

[jbk21]

Originally Posted by IwannaBanRN 

Yay! I got him to flip by making the kids' beds today. lol I can feel his hiccups down low on my right side. Now please, son, please please engage your little head in my pelvis and stay there!

HOORAY!!!!

[jbk21]

Originally Posted by Ajbaby 

I went to my chiro today. He palpated and said the same thing my mw said three weeks ago, her head is up by my ribs. Every time I think about it I just want to cry. I am 35 weeks today, in three weeks she hasn't budged. If she stays breech my midwife cannot deliver her, she would have to risk me out which means an automatic c/s. Ever since my son was a baby I have been researching everything birth, I do not want to have a hospital birth. Let alone be cut open. I know breech is just a variation of normal and it pisses me off that I would be forced into surgery just because the ob's and midwives are not taught how to do it.

This is honestly my worst nightmare. Damn it, now I am crying.

I totally understand it being your worst nightmare.  I hope baby flips!  Are there ANY hospitals near you that would even consider a vaginal breech birth?  Like, even a few hours away?  I would literally travel a few hours to somewhere that would do it (I'd go before labor began, personally.)  I would NOT be cut open if it were not an emergency.  Period.

[Jaimee]

Originally Posted by Ajbaby 

I went to my chiro today. He palpated and said the same thing my mw said three weeks ago, her head is up by my ribs. Every time I think about it I just want to cry. I am 35 weeks today, in three weeks she hasn't budged. If she stays breech my midwife cannot deliver her, she would have to risk me out which means an automatic c/s. Ever since my son was a baby I have been researching everything birth, I do not want to have a hospital birth. Let alone be cut open. I know breech is just a variation of normal and it pisses me off that I would be forced into surgery just because the ob's and midwives are not taught how to do it.

This is honestly my worst nightmare. Damn it, now I am crying.

A regular chiro or one that does Webster?  If the former, you need to find one that does Webster.  My friend just had her baby flipped with Webster.  If you cannot find one then get yourself to an acupuncturist that does moxi.  Make sure to bring your partner and have the practitioner teach your him how to use the moxi stick.  Baby often flips with one treatment, but if not you keep repeating the procedure at home until she does.  And if she flips back, you'll obviously want to repeat the procedure as well.  My practitioner back in MD had a 100% success rate with moxi.  I believe the overall stat is closer to 80%, but that's still pretty good!

[Ajbaby]

jbk21- I highly doubt it. I live in the city that has all of the main hospitals in a probably 60 mile radius. All the other ones are small country hospitals that probably don't have l&d's.

Jaimee- He does webster. I'm not sure about people who do moxi, I will have to ask my midwife.

[Jaimee]

Originally Posted by Ajbaby 

Jaimee- He does webster. I'm not sure about people who do moxi, I will have to ask my midwife.

It's technically called "moxibustion" and you should just be able to call around to local acupuncturists and ask if any of their practitioners have experience using moxibustion for turning breech babies.  Of course if your mw has a recommendation, that's great, but if not, I imagine you could find someone online.  Check out https://www.acufinder.com/.

[Abraisme]

You never know what a small hospitals' policies might be.  My dad lives in a very small, very rural area and their local hospital only has a 10% c-section rate.  It's all going to depend who is in charge..  IF your baby doesn't turn, it may be worth calling around.  That being said, there's still plenty of time for your baby to flip.  I'm 34w3d and my baby is still flipping around every few days.  I also have a friend that just had twins and one of her twins flipped several times at 37 weeks!
 

Originally Posted by Ajbaby 

jbk21- I highly doubt it. I live in the city that has all of the main hospitals in a probably 60 mile radius. All the other ones are small country hospitals that probably don't have l&d's.

Jaimee- He does webster. I'm not sure about people who do moxi, I will have to ask my midwife.

[Krystal323]

{{{{Ajbaby}}}}  It does suck that you can lose your ideal birth scenario over policies and other red tape =(  I'm so sorry.  I can only say to check out spinningbabies.com (if you're not already!), and try to stay positive.  Babies turn and flip all the time, even really late in the game.  My last one was breech til 35/36 wks, and so, yea...i know how scary and frustrating it feels..

This is actually the first time I've posted in this thread, b/c I didn't really want to think/stress about positioning before..  But now....yeahwell..  

What I think is going on in there is that there's one head-down babe, and another who's got his/her head in my ribs.  Footling breech perhaps?  There's a bobbly-round part right up in my ribs, which has got to be a head, and then I clearly feel hiccups and the deep pressure that can only be another head way down in my pelvis.  If it's not twins then I am completely at a loss for what I am feeling via palpating.  

The head-in-the-ribs is absolutely positively killing me.  I'm near tears all day long because of how much everything hurts.  I kinda wish someone could shoot me with a tranquilizer and wake me when I'm in labor...four babies before this and I've never felt this miserable physically.  /whine  

[2011mama]

Well, I had my first appointment today with the chiro who does Webster. I felt like I was there a long time. And he wants me to come back tomorrow. He left me lying face down for a few minutes and told me to just relax and when he came back in he asked if I felt the baby move. Silly me did not know it was going to work immediately. I told him I felt nothing! I felt bad saying it like he is not good at his job or something. LOL. But I honestly don't feel my baby move a ton unless I'm sitting upright or lying on my side so I was face-down at this point. I did feel a lot of movement this afternoon and I can say right now I don't feel the head in the ribs feeling but I'm really not sure of baby's position. The head in the ribs feeling has been coming and going so the absence of it right now might have more to do with how I'm seated than baby actually flipping back to head down presentation. I have another week til my next midwife appointment too so I guess for a week I'll just be in suspense as to how baby is! I wish I could figure it out myself but I think I have too much "fluff" in the way!

I have not been able to bring myself to ask my midwife what happens if baby is still breech as my due date approaches. I have a feeling it means I will risk out too, like you Ajbaby, and I just don't want to hear it right now. I'm 36w1d and I know there is still time to flip.

I was reading on some different methods for getting baby to flip and moxibustion is mostly effective before 36 weeks so I don't think I'm going to bother with that since I'm already past that. I do know an acupuncturist who does moxibustion. I was going to her when I was struggling TTC but she is so expensive I just can't afford it anymore.

I did buy pulsatilla too. Those containers the homeopathic remedies come in are apparently too complicated though so I couldn't figure out how to get it out. I got someone to show me later though and took it then. But tomorrow I'll take it right before my chiro appointment. My m/w said it's most effective when coupled with another treatment like the Webster technique.

Becky, yay for your baby flipping! I've never felt my baby have the hiccups. That must be neat!

[Abraisme]

I had a midwife appointment today and it looks like my baby has finally settled in head-down!  She's been that way for at least 4 days now, hopefully she'll stay put!  Honestly though, I'm pretty lucky because my midwives will still deliver a breech baby.  I really feel for anyone that gets 'risked-out' because of this!  :(

[Jaimee]

Originally Posted by 2011mama 
I was reading on some different methods for getting baby to flip and moxibustion is mostly effective before 36 weeks so I don't think I'm going to bother with that since I'm already past that. I do know an acupuncturist who does moxibustion. I was going to her when I was struggling TTC but she is so expensive I just can't afford it anymore.

Really?  Where did you come across that info- I'm curious!  My practitioner said she had success all the way up until labor.  And a moxi appointment very well might be less than a normal needle session, plus if she teaches your partner how to do it and gives you a stick to use at home then there's no need to keep going back.

[Jaimee]

Originally Posted by Krystal323 

What I think is going on in there is that there's one head-down babe, and another who's got his/her head in my ribs.  Footling breech perhaps?  There's a bobbly-round part right up in my ribs, which has got to be a head, and then I clearly feel hiccups and the deep pressure that can only be another head way down in my pelvis.  If it's not twins then I am completely at a loss for what I am feeling via palpating.  

The head-in-the-ribs is absolutely positively killing me.  I'm near tears all day long because of how much everything hurts. 

Sorry you're in so much pain Krystal!  I know the feeling... dislocated ribs are just awful.  My babies have always accomplished this task with feet and not their heads, but if you can clearly feel a big bobbly body part up there, that does sound like a head.  I'm no good at palpating myself so I can never tell until my mw maps out my belly for me.  When do you see your mw friends?

[Krystal323]

Originally Posted by Jaimee 

Sorry you're in so much pain Krystal!  I know the feeling... dislocated ribs are just awful.  My babies have always accomplished this task with feet and not their heads, but if you can clearly feel a big bobbly body part up there, that does sound like a head.  I'm no good at palpating myself so I can never tell until my mw maps out my belly for me.  When do you see your mw friends?

of course, as soon as i say what i think it is, it changes.  big bobbly part has moved.  to where, i can't say, LOL.  We did bust out the stethoscope last nite, and I got to hear a nice strong HB on my lower-to-middle left side--that was fun.  

i see my midwife-friends on Monday, and man, it can't come fast enough, lol.