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meltdowns (a bit of a rant)

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Ds is 7.  He has SPD, likely ADHD and/or PDD-NOS.  Emotional regulation has always been an issue for him, and we have worked on managing meltdowns for years.  Usually, there is an upset, disappointment, or transition trigger.  I have always said that screen time is extremely bad for him and stimulates things in his brain that make it very hard to tear away.  Thus, screen time is also a trigger and he gets very little.

 

Today, he had a fabulous day at school. Phew.  I dropped him off at my parents' for a couple of hours while I went to work.  When my husband came to pick him up, he had a meltdown  Now, I'm not trying to make excuses, I'm just reflecting a bit, but 1) he always has a hard transition leaving my parents', 2) they'd allowed him to be on the computer, 3) plans had to be changed because dh was held late at work, so instead of dh bringing pizza over there to eat, they had to rush home to practice piano. 

 

When I talked to my mom after work, I had the impression that this was a "rage" like we'd never seen before.  She kept saying she expected the cops to show up and she said dh had to restrain ds.  What I talked to dh, though, he said it was his typical meltdown - extremely loud wails (that's his style), thew himself on the floor kind of meltdown. He said that ds did hit the computer keyboard out of anger once, but then he just threw himself on the floor.  Dh said it "felt bigger" because there were 3 adults, 2 children, 2 dogs (one who was barking and nipping at him when he started yelling), 2 large chairs, a huge tv, and a computer all in one room.  Dh said ds needed space and he didn't have any.  He also said he did not restrain him at any point (we've never had to); when the intensity was over, he lifted ds up from the floor. 

 

Again, I'm not excusing the behavior, but in some ways I kind of see how the odds were set against him once things were set in motion.  I feel like my mom is intentionally blowing things out of proportion in order to advocate for medication.  (Everyone has their own feelings about meds.  At this point, I have my reasons for not wanting to go there, but it's almost like my mom sees it as personal quest to "win" on this issue.)  Then she told me that if ds wasn't still shaken up by that, then something was wrong. 

 

I got home to find that once he had cycled through (a matter of about 10 minutes total), he'd come home, practiced his piano well, eaten dinner, and was getting ready for bed.  I was kind of glad to find that he had recovered and pulled his night together, rather than staying in a negative or upset place.  But does that mean that something more is wrong??  He's certainly an empathetic kind of guy - not a sociopath, and not bi-polar looking when I look at the definition.  Are these meltdowns so old-school to dh and me that we're immune to their intensity? 

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Sounds like a typical meltdown to me.  I think for some people, witnessing a meltdown of a child can be frightening.  They don't know what to do.  I think having a game plan in place for when and if it happens again that includes your parents may be helpful to them.

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Sounds like a typical meltdown to me.  I think for some people, witnessing a meltdown of a child can be frightening.  They don't know what to do.  I think having a game plan in place for when and if it happens again that includes your parents may be helpful to them.

 

Seems like a typical meltdown to me too.  Ds used to have meltdowns that lasted 40 minutes.

 

If you are going to continue using them for care I'd have a sit-down about your ds' issues, his triggers, and what to do if he has a meltdown (you could put it into a binder so they have something to reference).

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That's the weird thing.  They know his issues, they've seen meltdowns, and they know his triggers.  We talk about these things on a regular basis.  Of course, despite my urgings for no screen time for years, they've ignored me - regardless of the fact that he has had multiple meltdowns over there related to screen time.  Finally, last night, my mom said, "That's it.  Never again will he have the privilege of screen time over here.  Ever.  That was out of control."  Yes, it was.  She said it in a very punitive sort of way, rather than a, "Hey, maybe they're onto something with this screen time trigger thing."  Up until now, though, they've acknowledged and dismissed my comments about it. 

 

The hardest part is that my mom is a retired school psychologist, so a) she knows better, and b) she's kind of my go-to person for some sorts of guidance.  And now I don't feel like I can go to her without her turning it against me.  I'm not living in denial - I understand that meltdowns are not typical for a 7 year old, and I understand that he needs to learn to deal with his emotions more effectively before he gets too big. 

 

I'll try to talk with her about a plan in case that happens again (something along the lines of sending him to a "safe room" for the duration), as well as recognizing the signs and defusing it before it starts.  That's really all it's ever taken for him.  I've never felt afraid of him.  He's mostly just loud.

 

What about the quick recovery from it?  Are kids supposed to be shaken up for a long time afterward?  When a toddler meltsdown, they recover quickly.  I know he's older, but it's almost like the same thing.  It doesn't appear to be a lack of remorse (and if he doesn't hurt someone or break something, then should a child feel "remorse" for having strong emotions, anyway?); it mostly just seems like he got the anger/upset out and moved on.

 

 

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Originally Posted by Rose-Roget View PostFinally, last night, my mom said, "That's it.  Never again will he have the privilege of screen time over here.  Ever.  That was out of control."  Yes, it was.  She said it in a very punitive sort of way, rather than a, "Hey, maybe they're onto something with this screen time trigger thing."  Up until now, though, they've acknowledged and dismissed my comments about it. 

 

The hardest part is that my mom is a retired school psychologist, so a) she knows better, and b) she's kind of my go-to person for some sorts of guidance.  And now I don't feel like I can go to her without her turning it against me.  I'm not living in denial - I understand that meltdowns are not typical for a 7 year old, and I understand that he needs to learn to deal with his emotions more effectively before he gets too big.

 

It sounds like you don't have a therapist for your ds; a therapist could be your go-to person for help with these issues and perhaps you have have them talk with your mom.

 

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What about the quick recovery from it?  Are kids supposed to be shaken up for a long time afterward?  When a toddler meltsdown, they recover quickly.  I know he's older, but it's almost like the same thing.  It doesn't appear to be a lack of remorse (and if he doesn't hurt someone or break something, then should a child feel "remorse" for having strong emotions, anyway?); it mostly just seems like he got the anger/upset out and moved on.


The quick recovery seems normal to me, once ds "snapped out of it" it was almost like it never happened (ds was 6.5 the last time he had a big one like that). I don't think that lack of empathy has anything to do with it. Though Ds has had issues with lack of empathy (much improved in the past year) but this issue shows itself...often--I think you would be aware of it by now if lack of empathy was an issue.

 

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