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Whining for some wine...

post #1 of 28
Thread Starter 

Maybe this is for the confession thread, but I really want a glass of red wine! Are there any women out there who also have this forbidden craving? Is it so wrong to indulge in just one teensy weensy glass of that sweet nectar or will my baby be born with two heads if I do?

 

Is anyone here of a culture that does not frown upon the occasional glass? My neighbor is Mediterranean and claims that it is good for me because of the iron and minerals. Sounds a little fishy, but I really want to believe her!

 

Also, I can't sleep!

post #2 of 28

I've been eyeing my wine too. I've always heard European women continue to drink, there used to be a BIG thread over in the pregnancy forum about it. Might be worth checking out :)

post #3 of 28

Someone brought me a bottle of Riesling a couple of days ago (she didn't know that I am pregnant) and I opened it to cook with it the other day and it was a new kind and I "had" to try a couple of sips. It was delicious. I would have liked a whole glass :( Also, I EBF and I definitely indulge in a gin and tonic or two when I am nursing. I usually have one right after I have nursed and I don't do it for the first six months but I thought that I would share that.

post #4 of 28

My hubby bought a bottle of my favorite wine after he knew I was pregnant, and keeps saying if I don't drink it he will. I've told him he is NOT to touch it. I've had a few mouthfuls here and there, and it will keep for awhile yet.

 

I definitely indulge in a few swallows of alcholic beverages throughout pregnancy. I drink much less in the beginning then I do at the end (ie, one to two mouthfuls - absolute maximum- a week (and many many weeks with nothing) for the first two trimester, but might go up to a half-cup once a week- again, maximum, I don't necessarily do it every week but will with a special occasion, family visiting, etc- nearer the end).

 

I also have a drink here and there while breastfeeding, but only if I know the baby will be down for an hour or two in the first 6 months. If I refrained from drinking at all while breastfeeding or pregnant, period, then I wouldn't have had a sip for the last.... oh.... 3.5 years? That's a long time without a beer.

post #5 of 28

I have a few sips here and there in the 1st trimester and a glass every other week or so in the 2nd or 3rd trimester. I see no problem with it.

post #6 of 28
Thread Starter 

Thanks for sharing everyone. I think I will wait until the 2nd trimester, which is around the corner, to indulge in an occasional glass of the naughty stuff. I was a social drinker before I was surprised with this pregnancy (and I was also very social!) So, going cold turkey with wine, caffeine and rich restaurant food has been a challenge, and kind of boring - especially during this first trimester which has brought me hardly any symptoms aside from sore breasts and a little fatigue. It's like I know I'm pregnant but I don't feel any different yet. 

post #7 of 28

I do have wine or beer while pregnant. I don't see much harm in it so long as it's kept to a limited amount...for me, that's a glass of wine, or A beer here and there.  However, I find that during the first trimester and much of the second, once my ms hits, I can't stand the thought of either. So, I respect that my body definitely doesn't want these and wait until I actually want one or the other. Which...is fairly often in the third trimester. 

 

I also EBF and drink. With that, I just make sure that I'm slow about getting back to drinking...so I keep it at what I drank in the pregnancy for a while and then up it occasionally whenever I feel like it. Once baby starts to eat some solids, I definitely just go ahead and drink as usual. Which, is often, but never to the point of drunkeness...

 

In this pregnancy, I have indulged in a beer or two, a glass of red wine, and two glasses of champagne from the time we found out at 4 weeks. (I'll be 7 weeks tomorrow)

 

DP and I are big wine drinkers. We are also very social with others who drink, and I just don't see enough bad influences from a drink here and there in pregnancy or breastfeeding. Mostly, I think just listen to your body. The research I've read about breastfeeding AND pregnancy concerning alcohol consumption always seems to make the case that literally no alcohol reaches the baby until the mother has consumed way to many for it to be a healthy celebratory drink ;-) 

post #8 of 28

I'm dying for a hard cider. My husband doesn't drink, so I can't steal sips from him, but we're getting together with the inlaws next weekend so I'm hoping I can steal a few from my sister in law.

post #9 of 28
I have no desire since becoming pregnant and even if I did, I wouldn't drink. I have heard that one here and there can be ok, but I figure why risk anything if it's something as easy as not drinking alcohol? I just don't think it's worth the risk to have anything like that. But that's just me smile.gif
post #10 of 28

I will have 1/2  glass of wine in the 3rd trimester or 1/2 a glass of beer.  Usually I can not even drink that since I become more senstive to alcohol while pregnant--last pregnancy I had a few sips of my water kefir and was like WOOHOO!  Party!

 

:partytime.gif

 

So 1/2 a glass max is what I do... and I wait until the 3rd trimester and all the major organs are grown.... :)

post #11 of 28

My hubby bought me some non-alcoholic St. Pauly Girl, so I could have a beer while watching football. I love football season and the drinking that seems to follow :) It was nice to feel a little more "normal". I know there is also non-alcoholic wine, but it is pretty bad. I tried one by J.Lohr thinking it might not taste just like grape juice, but it was not very good either. But hey, if you just want it to sip on then that might be something to think about if you feel uncomfortable having a glass of "real" wine.  

post #12 of 28
In the third trimester I will have a glass of wine about once a week at most. I did have a 1/4 glass last week. It was delicious.
post #13 of 28

Everything in moderation!  That's my motto.  I haven't had any alcohol since I found out, and I probably won't until the second trimester.  If I do have alcohol it'll be wine, and in the comfort of my own home.  I know I'll get dirty looks from members of the public.  And no way will I have a glass around family.  I would never hear the end of it.

post #14 of 28
I am truly very surprised that so many people, especially on this forum, drink alcohol while pregnant? Trust me when I say I am in no way trying to be judgmental when I say this, and this is my first pregnancy so I am no expert or anything like that, but everything I read says don't drink and we know that drinking alcohol can be bad, right? Why would so many people be ok with it? Is it truly that hard not to? Maybe I am not at the stage where I crave it, yet?

I am someone who was by no means an alcoholic but definitely enjoyed a drink every weekend, and my family basically raised me with a drink in their hands. My mom drinks wine every night, and that seems fine to me, and I used to get a drink whenever we went out to eat, and more if it was the weekend. I do enjoy drinking, don't get me wrong. But as soon as I started TTC and got pregnant, I knew I couldn't drink anymore and have been completely fine abstaining.

So, for someone like me who had the potential of really missing alcohol, I have been able to easily quit and never look back, just because I knew it wasn't an option for me while pregnant. Every time someone new posts in this thread, I see that another person will drink while pregnant, and I am just really surprised that so many people on here do. Like I said, I am attempting to say this in a non-judgmental way, but as we know sometimes it's hard on the internet to come across that way, so please understand I am asking this only out of curiosity and not out of anything else. I know most of you have had healthy babies before and you know what's best. I guess I am in the camp of "if we know it's bad, I am going to stay away from it". I could see if we were all raging alcoholics who CAN'T go a day without it, how it may be a problem, but I don't take any of you for raging alcoholics LOL. I guess my mindset about alcohol must be a lot different than the majority's here concerning a small amount of alcohol here and there?
post #15 of 28

I think it is just whatever you are personally comfortable with. Historically, there are periods when it was safer to drink meed then the local water supply.  And also recent research supports moderate drinking:

 

http://news.discovery.com/human/alcohol-drinking-pregnant-women.html

 

But really it is whatever you are comfortable with.  With a highly medicalized version of pregnancy, where a woman is treated as a an object and not an agent, we were told "never drink! during pregnancy" because we didn't know what was good for the baby.  And women couldn't possibly enjoy themselves, right?  But the *science* (per the link above) shows that there is no harm, and it might actually be beneficial. So rather then treating pregnant women as children who cannot decide how much to drink during pregnancy, I think it is treating woman as adults and allowing them to chose to have a glass of wine now and then.  No big deal. 

 

"The study, which found no evidence of harm from having a couple drinks a week during pregnancy, was so well done and its findings so conclusive that it ought to become the final word in the field, said Fred Bookstein, an applied statistician who studies fetal alcohol spectrum disorders at both the University of Washington, Seattle, and the University of Vienna"

 

Of course it is always best to ask you care provider if you have a specific question. But you body naturally produces a small amount of alcohol, and the majority of alcohol is metabolized and doesn't reach the baby.  And binge drinking (pregnant or not) is always wrong. 

 

I understand where you are coming from--with my first pregnancy I was so worried about doing something wrong, etc.  But really, I think parenting and birth and labor is about trusting yourself and your body, and not what people tell you.... So if research supports having a glass of wine now and then, and I want  to have a glass of wine now and then, so be it.  :)

post #16 of 28



Well said! I totally understand where you are coming from too Janellody and besides the two sips (actual sips) that I just took from that bottle of Riesling, I have not had a drink with any of my pregnancies (this is my third) but like Forestmushroom said, I don't think that a drink here or there is a horrible thing. I won't do it but I really REALLY miss my gin and tonic! I wish that I liked beer because the alcohol content is so much lower! As I said before, I do drink when I am breastfeeding (not WHILE- hahaha) and if I didn't, that would mean 3 years without a drink and I definitely need to have one here and there over 3 years. I always nurse the baby and have the drink immediately after so that I have a couple of hours for my body to process through it and if I am concerned (why would I be after one), I pump and dump. I was very concerned with everything with my first baby, while I was pregnant and while I was looking after her. By my second, I was way more relaxed (and is it a coincidence that my second baby was wayyyy more relaxed- maybe it was the gin? again, hahahaha) and I cannot wait to see how relaxed I am with the third. Each experience gets better and better and better:)

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Originally Posted by forestmushroom View Post

I think it is just whatever you are personally comfortable with. Historically, there are periods when it was safer to drink meed then the local water supply.  And also recent research supports moderate drinking:

 

http://news.discovery.com/human/alcohol-drinking-pregnant-women.html

 

But really it is whatever you are comfortable with.  With a highly medicalized version of pregnancy, where a woman is treated as a an object and not an agent, we were told "never drink! during pregnancy" because we didn't know what was good for the baby.  And women couldn't possibly enjoy themselves, right?  But the *science* (per the link above) shows that there is no harm, and it might actually be beneficial. So rather then treating pregnant women as children who cannot decide how much to drink during pregnancy, I think it is treating woman as adults and allowing them to chose to have a glass of wine now and then.  No big deal. 

 

"The study, which found no evidence of harm from having a couple drinks a week during pregnancy, was so well done and its findings so conclusive that it ought to become the final word in the field, said Fred Bookstein, an applied statistician who studies fetal alcohol spectrum disorders at both the University of Washington, Seattle, and the University of Vienna"

 

Of course it is always best to ask you care provider if you have a specific question. But you body naturally produces a small amount of alcohol, and the majority of alcohol is metabolized and doesn't reach the baby.  And binge drinking (pregnant or not) is always wrong. 

 

I understand where you are coming from--with my first pregnancy I was so worried about doing something wrong, etc.  But really, I think parenting and birth and labor is about trusting yourself and your body, and not what people tell you.... So if research supports having a glass of wine now and then, and I want  to have a glass of wine now and then, so be it.  :)



 

post #17 of 28

thanks for posting that link Forest Mushroom...and there's been more research over the years than just that study and the findings are often that drinking moderately while pregnant is just not dangerous to the fetus and in fact can be beneficial. 

 

For me, it's not hard to go without alcohol. Especially now that m.s. has hit so hard. But knowing that it is not a risk to my child, I do not choose to refrain from it just because I AM pregnant. So, when we first found out, yes, I certainly had a glass of champagne. lol! 

 

I may be on my own here, but I never take what a doctor or a book, or a midwife says as the end all answer to a question. There's so much research constantly being done that it's got to be nearly impossible for our health caretakers to truly be as up to date as possible, not to mention you never know where their own hang-ups lie...or what they were taught in school/training and are unable to shake off...or refuse to question themselves. I think it's very very important to always QUESTION the things we are told and come to our own conclusions from the wealth of knowledge and resources available to us all. So, just to take this example, we are taught that even one drink in pregnancy is damaging...when that's just false information that stemmed from an era where our health caretakers knew that there was a level of drinking that was dangerous to the fetus and because they did not know more information than that, they condemned all drinking while pregnant. It is a precautionary measure, but it does not mean that drinking in pregnancy is BAD. It means that there is some LEVEL of heavy drinking in pregnancy that will affect the fetus detrimentally. And, through further research, we now know that that level is nowhere near the same as one glass of wine here and there...

 

But, obviously, each woman and each pregnancy is different and different choices will and should be made accordingly. You should never do anything you don't feel comfortable doing...particularly while pregnant.

post #18 of 28

One of the many little things that happened that made me decide to test was two different beers that I only half finished. They ended up just tasting wrong. DH and I are kind of beer snobs aficionados. He homebrews and I grew hops this year to make my own beer for the first time. 

 

What I really want is sushi. My 5 year old looooooooves it. I'm not so fond of the fake crab in California rolls which is supposed to be okay and the veggie rolls just don't cut it. I think I'd be okay at a good sushi resturant but not the supermarket kind or a fast food place. 

post #19 of 28
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Originally Posted by janellody View Post

I am truly very surprised that so many people, especially on this forum, drink alcohol while pregnant? Trust me when I say I am in no way trying to be judgmental when I say this, and this is my first pregnancy so I am no expert or anything like that, but everything I read says don't drink and we know that drinking alcohol can be bad, right? Why would so many people be ok with it? Is it truly that hard not to? Maybe I am not at the stage where I crave it, yet?
I am someone who was by no means an alcoholic but definitely enjoyed a drink every weekend, and my family basically raised me with a drink in their hands. My mom drinks wine every night, and that seems fine to me, and I used to get a drink whenever we went out to eat, and more if it was the weekend. I do enjoy drinking, don't get me wrong. But as soon as I started TTC and got pregnant, I knew I couldn't drink anymore and have been completely fine abstaining.
So, for someone like me who had the potential of really missing alcohol, I have been able to easily quit and never look back, just because I knew it wasn't an option for me while pregnant. Every time someone new posts in this thread, I see that another person will drink while pregnant, and I am just really surprised that so many people on here do. Like I said, I am attempting to say this in a non-judgmental way, but as we know sometimes it's hard on the internet to come across that way, so please understand I am asking this only out of curiosity and not out of anything else. I know most of you have had healthy babies before and you know what's best. I guess I am in the camp of "if we know it's bad, I am going to stay away from it". I could see if we were all raging alcoholics who CAN'T go a day without it, how it may be a problem, but I don't take any of you for raging alcoholics LOL. I guess my mindset about alcohol must be a lot different than the majority's here concerning a small amount of alcohol here and there?

IMO, we're told "no alcohol while pregnant" not because it's that dangerous, but because they think we're too stupid to control ourselves and not binge drink every day. The key is moderation.
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Originally Posted by Masel View Post

One of the many little things that happened that made me decide to test was two different beers that I only half finished. They ended up just tasting wrong. DH and I are kind of beer snobs aficionados. He homebrews and I grew hops this year to make my own beer for the first time. 

 

What I really want is sushi. My 5 year old looooooooves it. I'm not so fond of the fake crab in California rolls which is supposed to be okay and the veggie rolls just don't cut it. I think I'd be okay at a good sushi resturant but not the supermarket kind or a fast food place. 


Sushi from a trusted source (and in moderation) is okay. I'm not sure if certain types of fish are better/worse than others though.
post #20 of 28

Interesting thread. I too love beer and had my first swig this weekend. My husband was drinking my favorite (three floyd's robert the bruce scotch ale) and I just had to have a sip. I think I'm only craving it because I know I'm not supposed to have it.

 

When my mom was pregnant with my younger brother she went into early labor at five months. The doctor told her to have a glass of wine each night to relax her uterus! This was in 1988! He was born at term and is probably one of the smartest people I know.

 

 

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