Isa: Your cookies sound amazing. I'm impressed.
Hi to everyone else!
Hey gals. You know it's never a dull moment. Wondering if I've got any progesterone level experts out there as I need some advice.
In my previous losses, we never tested Progesterone. I do have a short luteal phase so I've been on Progesterone supplements after ovulation for awhile. This time, once I found out I was pregnant, I tripled my dosage of Prometrium (they had never told me to do that before so I figured it out myself). Today my doc emails me and says that my Progesterone is 21.6 and that they "prefer to see it at 25." Nowhere have I been able to find that any doctor prefers a 25 and above. Some say 10 and above. One site said 16 and above. Of course, she offers me no solutions or suggestions. I've read enough to know that once a pregnancy starts, if it's doomed, it's doomed and there isn't a lot you can do but I'm trying to determine if Progesterone has possibly been my issue!
Thanks for any light you could shed on this one.
I have a GREAT RE and he said he likes it between 9 and 55 (not 100% on the upper limit of the range.) When mine was at 11 he prescribed me prometrium (one orally and one vaginally) in addition to my progesterone suppository and progesterone injections. These days it's usually in the 30's with no apparent concern. But if 9 is the lower limit, then I would think that 21.6 is acceptable? I haven't done a lot of research on this though.
Krista: My RE wanted it at least 20, preferably 25, but I know midwives who are ok with anything over 6. At 21, I would try not to worry about it, personally.
Just joined the local chapter of BabyWearing International and am getting some great tips and support on facebook from them. Lilah hates to have her legs spread apart in any carrier, which makes wearing her challenging (esp. in the Mai Tai and Ergo--the ring sling works better). They are giving me some good ideas, but I'm always open to more. ;-) It may be time to try a back carry, but then I couldn't kiss her head!
Lilah got to sleep without nursing completely down 3 times today! The first two times, I nursed her and then rocked her and transferred her to the co-sleeper (for the big 20 and 30 min naps--sigh). The third time, I nursed her, and then DP bounced her on the ball and transferred her. I know it is only one day, but it is giving me hope.
I just finished the third book in the Hunger Games series. I devoured it in two days of nursing. Wow. Hope I can sleep tonight. Trying to decide whether to let Z read it. She has read the first two, but the third is even more brutal, and she already has anxiety and OCD! She is BEGGING us, though. Library? Thoughts? She wants to be Katniss for Halloween next year and has signed up for archery lessons.
Krista, first of all a belated CONGRATS!! those beta numbers are fabulous. :) as for your p4 numbers...first pregnancy with dp hers were over 45. this current pregnancy they were:
23 at 19dpo (we were in Scotland until then so no earlier ones)
22 at 25dpo
21 at 8w3d
our RE was not concerned with any of these numbers. i hope that helps!
qotd - well, i guess it's a mixture. in the beginning before we had kids it was more surprises than not. now it's more known presents than surprises, lol! i do try to sneak in a couple of surprises though, it makes the present opening more fun. in reality though Christmas is more about the boys than us these days. watching them light up with excitement as they tear the paper off is just magical. :)
afu, we have an ob appt today and then we start on the every week appts. dp's belly is just, well, gigantor. bigger than she was with ds2 for sure. baby has dropped so dp's heartburn is better, yay! no sign that anything is happening but we are in no rush to have a Christmas baby. our ob won't even check until 40 weeks, did i mention how much we love our ob? :) tmi i know but our sex life is still awesome...even with the belly. ;)
Howdy all~ So glad it's Thursday 'cause it's one more day 'til Friday! Then I'm going to Isa's house and eating lot of cookies! Who's with me!?!?!??
Krista~ I'm sorry your doc was freaking you out. I hope you've gotten some good info from these helpful ladies. I don't remember my pg numbers, but I did have to have the lovely prometrium suppositories for what felt like EVER. They came in little pink rubber cups and I even put one of the cups in Alice's baby book. I think it sounds like you're doing really well. And I can speak from experience that early August is a fabulous time to have a baby!
AHope~ Hooray for your naps! Tiny though they were, that's progress for sure. As for The Hunger Games, I think if your kiddo's read the first two, she can handle the third, especially if you've read it. Make a point to talk to her about it every day and process what's going on in the story. It is brutal for sure, but it's still good, and Katniss is a great heroine (much better than Bella!!) Especially if she wants archery lessons and to be Katniss for Halloween, it'd be kinda mean not to let her finish the series, I think. But finish it with your input and all will be well. Thanks for asking!
Indigo~ Congrats to your DP about less heartburn. That's a blessing for sure! And yay for giganto bellies! Can we have a pic?
MizYellow~ ADORABLE!!!! We're taking family holiday pix this weekend, I'll post some when I get a chance.
QOTD~ We love surprising each other. I got to surprise DP yesterday with an anniversary present (a bit belatedly...) I bought an old tandem bicycle for $20 and had it repainted/refurbished and finally got it back from the bike shop yesterday. It is the coolest thing ever, and she was so surprised. It was great! I love treats and surprises, so we always try and keep them and make it even more special. I'm really looking forward to Alice having a Christmas she can really enjoy (though she loves the lights now...)
AFM~ Not much going on. Alice fully recovered from the tummy bug. She still is not interested in crawling, but pulls herself up onto toys and furniture and cruises around with very little help. She also has changed from demon-like growling to a nightmarish choking/gasping/aspirating sound which just sounds like imminent death, but is apparently just her new favorite way of vocalizing. Awesome. Here's my current favorite pic. She's just playing with the computer keyboard, but I love her eyes, and the little pointy tongue she's rubbing across her tiny toothlets. Awww...
Library: Thanks for the book input and for the lovely pic of Alice. Her name seems just perfect for her, somehow. Nice going.
Crystal: Forgot to say last post--GOOD to hear from you and GLAD to hear that your little one is still cooking safely in there, despite the scares. You must have nerves of steel with what you've gone through at various points in the pregnancy. I really hope the rest is uneventful, but even if there is more drama in store, I'm glad you are getting close enough that your babe should do very well. Stay in touch!
Indigo: I second the call for a belly pic, and all I can say about the action is, good for you both! Yee haw!
As of yesterday, my little bean is 17 lbs! UGH! No wonder she is getting harder to hold.
QOTD: I'd LOVE to suprise Sara, but she never wants anything and never even hints at things she wants. So she usually gets stuff for sewing or cooking with. I know she likes that stuff. She's hard...
Isa: I'm jealous of your friend. I wanna go on that trip now, not the one I'm going on.
Yellow and Library: Such beautiful babies!!
Good morning! My dad came for a visit and it was lovely. We are both mellowing in our old age. He didn't mention church once. Both the kids had a wonderful time hanging out with him. A playing games and O talking science. I have been saying both for too long. S didn't express much excitement, but he doesn't yet. As soon as he left A asked when we would get to see him again.
It is amazing. I feel the unbelievableness even more with Sara's pregnancy. I think because it's still so early. It's funny, I felt very bonded with the babe I was carrying for my first and third pregnancies. Not so much with number 2. I wonder if she was too close on the heels of number 1 or if it was because I was too busy to think or just the anxiety I struggled with.
Believe it or not we have not told our families yet, we don't see them that often and wanted to spare them the possible heart ache if we suffer another loss. We will let them know at Christmas as it will be obvious by then anyway.
Our donor and friends are both excited and worried and check up on us very often. My DP is coping by being in "caregiver overdrive". She does an amazing job looking after us and the house, but occasionally goes overboard like carrying my bag to the car in the mornings (if I could only get this kind of service at work :). We very tentatively had the name talk and got really nervous as soon as we found some names we both liked. I feel "something" occasionally, but not sure if its movement or just my digestion. We found out the gender few weeks ago, but will keep it between the two of us until birth. We really have no preference as long as its a healthy baby that gets to come home with us. Both DP and I have way more experience with boys (me at work and DP from looking after her nephews) but were looking forward to bringing up our daughter. I really enjoy my work (I'm a teacher) and it keeps me sane although I find it very tiring. It's a great distraction: you can't be consumed with worry while trying to effectively engage 30+ teenagers. Wow I feel like I just had a sit down with Barbara Walters LOL. Btw love the pics of your family - keep them coming. Is Sara 17 or 18 weeks? I will be 17 tomorrow and I think we have almost the same EDD. Will you find out the sex are you hoping to even things out at 2 and 2?
Sorry for so many questions. I don't feel like I got to know you very well over on QC. A May baby is pretty perfect timing for a teacher. Will your partner be taking much time off? Do you teach more boys? Sara has more experience with boys, too. I keep telling her that girls are great in a lot of different ways because I don't want her to be disappointed if she finds out she's carrying a girl. I think A will be sad if she's got a boy in there. I can see a lot of beauty in 2 little boys so close in age (and 3 and 3 in the house) or 2 boys and 2 girls.
KRISTA! I am so happy to see you here! I will be thinking sticky thoughts for you.
A lot has been going on for me. I have gestational diabetes, but after checking my sugar levels 2-4 times a day I realize its not very bad I rarely get a high level but I do despise testing. The night before our baby shower (this past friday) I started bleeding-a lot. So we spent the night in labor and delivery. I was having small contractions that they think was causing the cervix to be irritated causing the bleeding (at this time it was pretty light). I got a shot and some pills to stop the contractions and it worked. Ultrasound showed a 1.7x 8.8x 9.9cm clot by the placenta on the baby's side which I guess in uncommon. I passed a clot the size on my palm and fingers the next morning so I'm thinking this was the clot they saw. It reminds me of the SCH I had at 14 weeks, since I passed the clot the bleeding has slowed and now I am barely spotting. I am on bed rest and waiting to hear from the perinatoligist to get a better ultrasound done.
Wow wow wow. What a dramatic pregnancy you've had. Wishing you a calm home stretch.
I just did a quick read through of the supportive and thoughtful responses to my co-sleeping woes. So very helpful. DW brought the babe into bed last night. She misses her too, but finds it much more clear cut that R should sleep where she's comfy. R does great in arms but not in the co-sleeper or in bed yet. I hope we get there.
You will figure out what works best for you all. Great outfits all around. I miss it out there.
25% there!! Good luck with the genetic testing. Very fun on showing, I hope you're having better luck with the maternity clothes. Belly pic?
He also might just be more stable now in general. If I'm just going for a quick pee, I don't bother with the stool, I'll put up a pic of that as soon as I get Sara to take one (she's off work today). A lot of people say using the toilet hurts their back, so I didn't bother getting a pic of the standing pic before.
I like hearing how your guy is developing. Our boys are very different. For being home with a baby, developing routines is helpful.
Baby is back to sleep, I'm going to join him. More to come later.
Seraf: Love that high back carry! What kind of carrier is he in? I got Lilah on my back yesterday in the Mai Tai, but it wasn't right. I'll try it again with help today. I just met with a local babywearing guru who helped me get Lilah into better positions. She showed me that (as you rightly implied), L's legs weren't spread enough to be safe in a ring sling. So now I pull her knees up above her butt, and she seems to tolerate it fine (as long as I keep moving, that is). I think I was spreading her legs without pulling her knees up high enough, which is why it was uncomfortable for her (oops). She also showed me a super cool trick with the ring sling. Here it is in a video. It is a way to put the rings on your back in order to hold a (young) baby upright over your shoulder without the rings being in his/her face. Lilah slept like that for a little while last night, though my shoulder got tired after a while. So now I want a woven wrap. She helped me get Lilah into a really nice comfy hold in the front. I can't use the Moby anymore--she's too big and heavy, and it stretches all over.
Where are you headed for your weekend trip?
AmandaHope, Rucksack carry. Shay is still curled up like a peanut, so I let him keep his legs inside the wrap and don't take the straps between them, but I will again once he gets older. It's just a long piece of fabric. Not stretchy. It's 5 yards, but I folded the length in half because it was way too long. I'm glad you're getting it worked out. I can't get the video to play, but I will on the other computer. We are going up to Cleveland so Sara's family can meet Shay and then Sara is flying out.
It went quite well actually. I've been getting out of breath so easily lately, I just know I need to get back into better shape. Being so sick has taken its toll on me. I dropped G off at the childcare and then I walked for 20 minutes on the treadmill. Normally I would not consider that to be a workout, but that's about as much as I can do right now. I made sure to eat a good solid breakfast before hand (2 scrambled eggs, half a whole grain bagel with cream cheese, orange juice, cherry tomatoes) and drink lots of water. Then I got to shower all by myself. Showering at home is a chore lately because G wants to come in with me and the warm water and standing for 5 whole minutes makes me light headed and then I have to get us both dry and dressed. I'd shower while she naps except that the shower is on the other side of a wall from her bed and I always worry I'll wake her prematurely if I accidentally bang the wall or drop the shampoo or something. Anyway, we were there for about an hour and by the time we left I was feeling really sick, but eating seems to have cleared it up. (Spaghetti and garlic jalapeno stuffed olives. Mmmm.) Now I will rest until I have to go to work. It's good to know that I can hopefully start getting in some little workouts without absolutely dying. Though yesterday I took G to story time at the library and then went grocery shopping and I paid for it for the rest of the day... *sigh* Baby steps I guess.
She also showed me a super cool trick with the ring sling. Here it is in a video. It is a way to put the rings on your back in order to hold a (young) baby upright over your shoulder without the rings being in his/her face.
Wow, what a great hold! I so wish I had known about this when G was tiny. She and I both loved the rings sling, but were limited in positions because of those darned rings. This would have been perfect. I love how the baby is so high so your arms can be more free.
Yes, it is like a Moby (just a long piece of fabric, like Seraf's), but I guess the fabric is woven so that it has just a bit of give. Here is a detailed description of woven wraps. I can see why people like them--the are super versatile and keep the baby/toddler close like Moby but with more support and less stretch. But they range in price from $120 to over $200! I guess it has to do with the way they are woven--they are not just long pieces of fabric. Anyway, I'm going to sell my Moby and one of my padded ring slings and see where I'm at. In the meantime, I'm going to go to a local sling group (the DuPage Slingers, which is the group that the blogger TheFeministBreeder belongs to--love her, by the way). I should be able to check one of the pricey ones out of their library to see what I think.
BUT...if you have one, Isa, I'd LOVE to borrow it! What kind is it, or is it homemade? How exciting!
a little excitement today - babe had like a bazillion episodes of hiccups in the last few days, then last night dp threw up and felt yucky nauseous. today she felt nauseous again, had back pain and intermittant ctx. it continued until the boys went to bed and now she just has nausea and overall soreness w/ a little back pain.