OCTOBER 2011 INFERTILITY THREAD!!! - Page 3

[renavoo]

Deborah, I'm wondering if it would be good to just have it out with her. By have it out, I mean to calmly say to her that her tone implies that you are disregarding the instructions, which you are not. Therefore, if she would be so kind as to tell you what to do now that the results are what they are, that would be great. I think that that is what i would eventually do too...it's just not acceptable that someone who is in this field would have such lousy bedside manners. I didn't realize that she did this before too...I definitely think that she needs speaking to. I think we, as women, always try not to seek out confrontation but the fact is that most people, when confronted, will back down...especially when you do it politely.

By the way, I know it's not spasms of the vessels in my uterus but i have spasms or muscle twitches in my legs and arms sometimes...I think it's more stress than anything (which is a theory supported by doctors)... therefore, I'm thinking that it is possible that it also affects internal vessels, not just peripheral muscles. So the nurse can just take the results and her "no caffeine" instructions and shove it.

How is Peaches behaving today? No more accidental scratches from the cat, I hope!!!

Monkey, I'm so sorry that you're still not feeling 100%! Boy, that is one severe illness. And I'm sorry you're so down. I refuse to believe that you will not get pregnant soon...if not this month then sometime soon...after all, you're now ovulating much more normally!!! i think it'll be soon. My hopes are all with you!!

Gozal, how are you doing?? What day in the cycle are you?

Cathelini, WELCOME and I love your picture! So cute!! I hope you get some good direction from your RE!!! And I'm looking forward to following you through your journey to you BFP! i know what you mean about how isolating infertility is...I feel the same way. Luckily, you have you puppies to help cheer you up! I would love to have a puppy too...my building doesn't allow them but yes, there are a lot of people on this site who have pets and I live vicariously through them.

Cbaa, yah to taking a trip away!! I hope you have a blast in Vegas, especially because you're now able to do all the fun things that Vegas has in store for you! Party it up and I look forward to hearing back from you soon!

Ok ladies, so today should go quickly because i have an all day client meeting and then tomorrow afternoon, we leave for MD. Friday is the transfer so I hope my embies thaw well and I can get it done!!

Big hugs everyone! i'm thinking positive thoughts and hoping for a slew of BFPs soon!!!

[gozal]

Deborah, I second what Renavoo wrote! I will add that it's always easy for me to think of a great way to handle the situation after I've had time to calm down and think, but in the moment, it's very hard for me. I can do polite, even not-so-polite, confrontations when I feel they're genuinely needed, but like most I don't like confrontation. So rather than plot out the ultimate thing to say, I try to keep it simple so I can remember in the moment. I think I would say to this nurse first of all, "Nobody wants this more than I do." It's simple and a powerful reminder that hello, why would you purposely do something that will lower your chances of getting an accurate test result? If she doesn't respond to that, then I would launch in and say, "You seem to be implying that...etc." I also want to mention that the instructions you were given said no soda or coffee, nothing about other foods/drinks! Sure, chocolate has some caffeine in it, but significantly less than soda or coffee. I really think if chocolate/other foods made a difference, you would be given instructions to fast. Lots of tests require fasting, after all. So I cannot imagine that even if you unintentionally ate something with a bit of caffeine in it, that that was the cause of the arterial issue. I completely agree that it is likely to be stress-related or just something that happens. Sorry you have to deal with this, ugh!

Renavoo, YAY!!! It's finally here! Do you have a cozy place to stay near your doctors' office? (By cozy I mean "has wifi," of course!) Good tunes for the car? New reading material? 

AFM, I started progesterone supps yesterday. Even after the first dose I got super symptoms so I'm hoping that means my baseline progesterone was good this cycle. I can't quite remember but I don't think they came on in full force like this the last times. Like, this morning I got up and was like, "Gross, why does the house smell like chicken?" It was some discarded soup veggies from my stock that I made yesterday, downstairs in the kitchen trash can. I could also smell the rainy roof, which is a weird and disgusting smell, who knew? OTOH, I'm kind of relieved to be free of ISW (Imaginary Symptoms Watch) and CD (Chart Divination) during this 2ww. I know for a fact it's the progesteron supps, so all I can do is just wait to POAS.

[monkeyscience]

catheleni - Welcome!

cbaa - Sorry that you understand how I feel. Hope you have lots of fun on your trip and get a chance to destress, though!

gozal - Sorry that you know how I feel, too. But I guess it makes me feel a little better to not be alone. Misery loves company, huh? Apparently I'm also not alone in my TWW... when do you think you'll start POAS? Can we graduate together??

deborah - UGH about your nurse. I think the question sounds rude even typed out, and with tone of voice, it could sound worse. Some people just shouldn't be in professions where they have to interact with others - especially others in emotionally fragile states. If I were you, I would speak to your doctor about the nurse's rudeness next time you meet with him/her. Most doctors I've been to have only one nurse that really works with their patients, but you could always see if your doctor has another one. And either way, he/she should be made aware of how the staff are treating you. Did you end up telling the nurse about the chocolate? Unless it was dark chocolate, and/or you ate a lot of it, it probably wasn't enough to affect your test. Do they want to repeat the test? Did they tell you what the ramifications are if you do have the increased blood flow? (And why is increased blood flow bad? Shouldn't that be good?) Sorry for all the questions - this just isn't a test I've heard about before.

renavoo - You're almost there!! Excited to hear how your little embies thaw! Will you know that before Friday?

AFM, 6 DPO, so pretty sure ovulation is for real. Especially since I've been an emotional mess the past several days. That part is (hopefully) getting better. I've decided I don't want to take the progesterone right now - I kind of want to see what my body will do without it. I'm still sort of lost in the feeling of pregnancy not being a real possible outcome of this situation. OTOH, if my body is going to ovulate once every two months from now on, I can at least feel a lot more hopeful than I have for the past year, when I wasn't ovulating at all. I'm feeling less like this is my one chance for something to happen. I'm planning to POAS Saturday and Sunday, although there's a good chance Saturday is too early.

[deborahbgkelly]

So, a different nurse was in today and I got to mention it in a "remind your nurses to be careful of wording and tone when leaving messages" and stated that I didn't think it was intentional (I kind of do, but I don't want to rock the boat too much). Apparently, the problem is not enough blood flow. They said they weren't sure how much a chocolate cookie would have made a difference, so they are putting me on a regiment to increase blood flow. Here's the kicker: it includes Viagra. LOL. Only, in this case it is vaginal suppositories. In addition to that I will be on baby aspirin and Vitamin E. I will be retested on 10/21. If they don't see enough change, we will have to postpone a month or two, but hopefully that won't be the case. They said to still go ahead and order the stims as they can be stored for years without any adverse effects. Now for something OT, but fun. My dad got me a Kindle for my upcoming birthday!

[gozal]

Monkey, it would be, like, the best thing ever to graduate together! So, I am debating the when to POAS question. I think Sunday morning will be a tad early for me. Although my o day puts that at 10dpo, actually I am almost certain I ovulated late on o day so it would really be just over 9dpo for Sunday FMU. So I'm thinking I'll wait till Monday morning. I might go for late-night Sun. POASing if I think I can, um, get decent concentration. (How else can I put that? Ugh, sorry.) I like this positive thinking thing we're doing. This is good. 

[monkeyscience]

deborah - Glad you were at least able to bring up your concern. And maybe you'll just get the other nurse from now on! Sorry your test results weren't what they like to see... but based on the fact that they're even checking, it sounds like you have an RE that's more on top of things than most. Hopefully the drug regimen will work, even if it is a little bit funny.

gozal - Wow... so we are pretty much cycle twins, because I'll be 10 DPO Sunday. And I have zero idea when in the day I might possibly ovulate. I am wishing that I had been able to entice dh into BDing on O day, but he was absolutely unpersuadable. (We had no idea it was O day, or he probably would have done it.) At least we were able to get in some early afternoon action 1 DPO, so that puts it closer to O time, anyway. We will see!

[deborahbgkelly]

Thanks everyone.

[renavoo]

Gozal and Monkey, I'll be joining you during your 2ww!! Technically, since I'm waiting for my frozen embie transfer, I'm about 4 dpo today, I believe. Hmm or is it 3? anyway, transfer day is day 6, i believe. However, I won't be able to get a beta until 13 days post transfer, which is how they like to do it. So I guess I'll be a little behind but I'll probably end up testing on what is day 12 or 13 post ovulation. :o)

As for feeling like you're all alone, Monkey, you're NEVER all alone...we're always here for you!! I also decided one month to not take my progesterone as a supplement (which at that time, wasn't prescribed for a doctor- but I was concerned about my luteal phase and I had the left overs.) i found out that my luteal phase defect is a real issue :) But I'm happy I did it because I really wanted to know...and to give my body a little rest from all the drugs!!

Gozal, I have to tell you that during my client meeting today, I could not what I was convinced was a funky smell out of my mind. I don't know if it was real or imagined but I even actually went and smelled myself to make sure that it wasn't me!! I am definitely MUCH more sensitive to smell, something that I don't feel was as obvious the last few times. Ah, the wonders of hormones!!

Positive thinking all around!!

Hugs!!

[shesaidboom]

renavoo - I temp, but they have been wonky this month since I haven't been feeling well. They've been higher than normal the whole cycle. If they were more normal maybe that would give me a clue!

deborah - I'm glad you said something about that nurse. Everyone has their bad days, but it is not okay to treat a patient that way. This stuff is hard enough as it is.

AFM, I'm so frustrated right now because I'm still getting crazy 'maybe' symptoms. Still nauseous and throwing up at least once a day. Now I'm bloating badly. Like painful bloating, as well as smells bothering me. I've been using the same handsoap for years and all of a sudden it smells like onions to me. It's the weirdest thing! I do have a bit of a sore throat though, so again, it could be because of that. Who knows? It's just so hard seeing that BFN when I'm getting all these wacky symptoms. I should be asleep right now as I am exhausted, but I cannot sleep because of the bloating and sore breasts. I cannot wait for the 25th to arrive so I can talk to the fertility specialist about all this. In other news..I dropped off dp's sample today. It was quite the adventure, riding the train with a container of sperm under my arm, rushing to get there within the hour alotted, but I guess we do what we have to do. Hopefully the results will be in by our next appointment (his last results weren't in last time).

[livelovelaugh]

I have only posted once or twice on this forum, but today I got my BFP and I just wanted to put it out there that even when the odds are VERY low, it CAN happen.  You can read my earlier post introducing myself, but basically DH was dealing with testicular cancer (fine now), but we froze sperm a few years ago and decided to try for our last baby.  All of the odds were against us (counts post wash (I did back to back, non-medicated IUIs) were 3 million with 25% motility and 5 million with 48% motility.  I chose on my own to do the back to back against what the doctor said (they recently stopped doing them at my hospital, claiming that they had no effect on results!!), and basically my odds were something like 2% given my age (38), etc.  I kept reminding myself that it only takes one...

[brichole1214]

livelovelaugh:  YAY!!!! Congrats on the BFP I'm so excited for you!!! Once i can get to a reliable internet source (my computer at work sucks) i will add you to the BFP list instead of having to put you in the TTC area!!! Sending out sicky vibes and wishing you a HH 9 months!!!

Renavoo:   I'm so ready for you to get your transfer lol.  I swear this month is dragging by...maybe because i'm just sitting and waiting lol.  I hope that it goes well!!!

Gozal:   Just ready to see your BFP!!! :)  LOL   I hope that you get it this cycle!!!

EVERYONE:  I'm so sorry that i've been MIA this week!  Emma ran a high fever ALL weekend this past weekend and when i FINALLY got her into the doctor she had a double ear infection!!!! BLAH! My poor baby has been feeling horrible so I haven't been able to get online to check anything!  She's never one to just want to "cuddle" and that's all that we did my 2 1/2 days off work! I felt so bad for her I just wish I could take it away from her!  She is still pulling at her ears but her fever is gone now so I have my grandmother watching her again while I work this week.  I am happy that I'm only working 4 days this week though. I'm taking Sunday off to have a "mental health day"!!! I really need that right now.  I was all confused about whether or not I wanted to be pregnant this month and once i had decided that it really wouldn't be a bad time, I start showing signs that AF is coming!!! I'm on cd like 23 or something like that and i'm spotting!!!!!!  I just know that if i spot as lon gas I did last month i'm going to go crazy!!! If AF does finally show up in full force within the next week i'm not going to worry about it...but from here on out i'm going to stop carring if i get pregnant or not.  If i do then great...we'll get to add another little one to the family...if I don't then i'll stop driving myself crazy with "should i want this, should i not" and just go with the flow!!!

I hope that everyone is doing good!  I need to go all the way back to my last post and see who i've missed.  I know that I will get everyone new added as soon as I can get to either my parent's or grandparent's house. I can try to add from my phone but it's stupid most of the time.  GO FIGURE!!! 

OOOOOOHHHHHHH!!! I have a HUGE favor to ask you ladies...I'm going to explain my situation, and i would like feed back!!!  HERE GOES (PS it's more drama lol again GO FIGURE!!!)

The past two or three days while i've been off work 2 of my husbands friends (who are closer to my age than my husband's age...there's almost a 5 years difference in our age) ANYWAYS, 2 of his friends have been texting me, well trying to "sext" me if you know what i mean.  I love these guys to death, they are my friends too, but do I tell DH and get him mad at them or do i just handle the situation myself and let it go?  One of the guys is married and has a son who's about 9 months older than Emma.  The other is divorced, lives much further away, and had an almost 3 year old.  I don't want to hurt their friendship, but I also don't want to get caught up in the middle of all of this either!!! I do love my husband, and yes, he's hurt me really bad lately, but it's not right for me to just hurt him back. "TWO RIGHTS DON"T MAKE A WRONG".  I just need to know if i need to go to DH about this or tell the guys myself that we are all just friends and that's all that it's going to be.  I have never been put in this position before and I honestly don't want to be in it lol.  Things are FINALLY getting back to being good, I don't want anything to mess it up!  BLAH!!! I swear i don't get it.  There have been 3 other guys who i use to date try to get back in touch with me lately too and i'm like REALLY!! Why couldn't these people have just been honest when they were with me and maybe we would of dated longer than we did.  But THEY are the ones who decided that they weren't wanting a very serious relationship so I wasn't going to stick around just for someone to decide to dump me a couple weeks later.  I had a young daughter at the time, and the guys who i'd previously dated didn't want to have to help with the responsiblity of a young child.  (they obviously think they do now, but it's way too late!)  Do some men just want something they can't have, and they know they can't have it? 

[monkeyscience]

shesaidboom - Wow... those definitely sound like pregnancy symptoms. Especially the throwing up thing. That's not exactly something that's all in your head. I would say to test again, but of course you need to do what's best for you. Glad you made it through your SA adventure!

livelovelaugh - Congrats!

brichole - Yes, some guys do just want what they can't have. Stupid guys, not all guys. Obviously, I don't know much about your relationship with the guys texting you, but if it were me and my dh's friends, I would go ballistic. I would text them back and tell them on no uncertain terms that they were never to text such things to me again. I would probably have a hard time not telling my dh, though. I honestly wouldn't want my dh to stay friends with guys that thought it was okay to hit on his wife, though.

AFM, 7 DPO and just waiting (impatiently!).

[brichole1214]

monkeyscience:  They are pretty good friends with both of us.  I think i'm just going to block them from talking to me and make sure that i'm never alone with them...because i would just HATE for them to be missing something precious to them if they tried anything!!!  They might be bigger than me (well at least taller than me) but i've already been thru being forced before when i was much younger and i'm not going to live thru it again.  not that i think they would but heck, you never know with people these days.  I'm going to see if they do it again though and if they do i will let dh know.  I am just so tired of drama and i think maybe that's what they are trying to cause because they know that their lives suck!!!!!

ANYWAYS, lol I'm just tired of it all and I want to be more positive about things...so aside from changing my number (which DH is actually thinking about changing his because some chick from back when he did what he did the first time has started trying to get in touch with him. I'm just ready for a break from everything! I NEED A VACATION!!!!!! I know that they say it's not aways good to do a vacation without your husband for some couples it hurts them more than helps them but i need away. I just need to get away for a couple of days!!!!

[deborahbgkelly]

Thanks SheSaidBoom.

[renavoo]

Shesaidboom, it sounds promising!!! maybe you're pregnant! Are you sure you're not? Those are pretty strong symptoms if you're not on fertility meds?

Brichole, just out of curiosity, do you think your DH put them up to this? It just seems like interesting timing and maybe he wants to kind of get you in trouble too so he feels better about what he's done? I know I know, I read too many mystery novels or something but i just feel like it's such odd timing and they are his friends too. Are they more your friends than his? If you think that that isn't possible, then I would just do what Monkey says...tell them to stop in no uncertain terms. I feel like i would have a difficult time not telling my DH too just because i would feel very uncomfortable hanging out with them and i think DH would want to know why but it depends on your relationship!

I hope it works out, anyway!!

Big hugs!! i just want you to have a drama free time!!!

Monkey, just a few more days!! I'm counting down with you and awaiting your bfp!!!

livelovelaugh, CONGRATS!!! thank you for checking in and letting us know and I'm so happy for you!!

[brichole1214]

Renavoo:  I litterally just LOL!! BLUE sent me almost the EXACT same thing in a PM earlier!!! I think it's possible...so i'll just ignore the guys, let them know i'll be ignoring them and go from there.  One of his friends lives in Florida so I don't have to worry about seeing him because he's too lazy to come see us in North ALabama and I don't have the vacation time for us to go down to Florida right now so OH WELL!!! And the other friend can't hold a job long enough to afford the gas it would take for him and his family to come see us and they only live about an hour in a half away from my house...but then again, i'm not going to waste my money to go see his family if he's going to be like that. I am BEST FRIENDS with his wife and I hate that he's even doing this behind her back.  BLAH...VACATION VACATION VACATION i need one BAD!!!!  I'm super jealous of people who travel all of the time.  I use to get to travel with my parents when i was younger.  I have gotten to go to a lot of places that many of my friends and family haven't been but i haven't been outside of the state of alabama longer than an hour since my honeymoon 3 1/2 years ago!!! I just wanna get away from it all!! Maybe i need to add some Calgon to my bath tonight and let "calgon take me away" LOL HAHA sorry needed some humor!!!! 

[catheleni]

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[blueyezz4]

Originally Posted by brichole1214 

Renavoo:  I litterally just LOL!! BLUE sent me almost the EXACT same thing in a PM earlier!!! I think it's possible...so i'll just ignore the guys, let them know i'll be ignoring them and go from there.  One of his friends lives in Florida so I don't have to worry about seeing him because he's too lazy to come see us in North ALabama and I don't have the vacation time for us to go down to Florida right now so OH WELL!!! And the other friend can't hold a job long enough to afford the gas it would take for him and his family to come see us and they only live about an hour in a half away from my house...but then again, i'm not going to waste my money to go see his family if he's going to be like that. I am BEST FRIENDS with his wife and I hate that he's even doing this behind her back.  BLAH...VACATION VACATION VACATION i need one BAD!!!!  I'm super jealous of people who travel all of the time.  I use to get to travel with my parents when i was younger.  I have gotten to go to a lot of places that many of my friends and family haven't been but i haven't been outside of the state of alabama longer than an hour since my honeymoon 3 1/2 years ago!!! I just wanna get away from it all!! Maybe i need to add some Calgon to my bath tonight and let "calgon take me away" LOL HAHA sorry needed some humor!!!! 

Renavoo -LOL... Good minds think alike!!!!  Good luck tomorrow! Hope your trip went smooth.

Brichole - I'd be more aggressive than just saying "ignoring them" I'd put your foot down and express that they are being very inappropriate and you won't put up with it.  That will really scare them into wondering if you are going to say anything to their significant others or whoever.

Shesaidboom - sure sounds like BFP symptoms.  Fingers crossed for you!!!

Good luck to everyone.  I'm always quietly stalking you all.

[monkeyscience]

Renavoo - Good luck with transfer today!! Let us know how it goes!

AFM, temp dropped a little this morning, so I talked myself out of testing. If I have an 8-day LP, I'm going to cry.

[brichole1214]

Big hugs Monekyscience!!! I hate that for you!!! maybe it was just a fluke!!!

Renavoo: praying that your transfer goes well today!!! Please let us know how you are doing once you get the chance!!! AND GET PLENTY OF REST!!!!

Blue:  I did what you said and neither of them have text me back so YAY!!! Maybe they are completely freaked out!!!