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post #41 of 54

I don't take it too literally either.  I've been interested in learning more about the cultural practices of my ancestors, just so the memory is not lost.  My tribe is not legally recognized, but we carry on anyway.  I think it's great to learn from nature.  Nature does what works, so you can observe an animal, or a river, or the whole ecosystem and learn their/its wisdom.  I also know that this planet is sick, and people need to connect to the natural ways if they hope to heal it before it's too late. 

 

Perhaps I am shamanic in that I believe there is a kind of spiritual energy connection between every living thing.  There is a whole pulsing interconnected web of life, because I have sensed it.  There is actually a level of 'something' to plug into that some people are aware of, and some aren't.  Even if they don't know about it, they are still a part of it, but it is white noise that does not register.  I haven't read this in a book, this is just my life experience.  When I was a little kid and played in the woods all day and felt the energy coursing through the whole forest and right through me, I didn't question it any more than I would question breathing.  I didn't even feel the need to mention it to anyone. 

 

I also used to pick up on the vibes of human emotions from people.  But whenever I would totally nail someone's emotions, they would deny, deny, deny.  I always thought I was wrong and taught myself to ignore my intuition.  It took me a good many years to realize that I've been right all along, and I am aghast at the lengths people go to to lie about themselves.  People's spirits are so sick and confused.  :( 

post #42 of 54
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I have the same experience as well.  Overtly, visually when very, very high.  I could feel the pull in me from all the connections in the universe, directly to the Source, which was hidden from me except indirectly in all these things surrounding me (hidden because I was still looking outward?)  Less intensely but distinct when I can be by myself on my forest walks.  I think that's why I like living where I do.  I get lost in more urban areas.  I haven't honed my perception enough to see through the cacophony of the man-made.  I guess that makes me a novice, though I "know" intellectually it is the same, just more hidden under all the layers, or something.  I have experienced some of the same, again, while under the influence of psychedelics.  Why it should be easier, I don't know.  Perhaps we humans are programmed to recognize natural patterns?  Resonates more clearly?  Mirrors the face of the great spirit with ease?

 

Coming out of the Nevada Rainbow Gathering (1989) where I spent a month by the river, I saw the fear in people's faces, so very different from the openness I experienced every day.  It was a vacation from Real Life, I guess you could say.  I did see the masks of fear, the armor, but I also saw plenty of openness in places I didn't expect it.

 

I know I don a mask at times.  That mask, I guess, is for social politenesses.  To connect without too much depth, which can be uncomfortable.

post #43 of 54
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Cool.  I'm reading it now for the first time and haven't read any of her other books yet.  Which do you think is the best of her books?  I am not really "doing" the course, but I have been doing the freewriting thing every morning and I've come to really look forward to it, even though it sometimes feels like a chore at first.  For me, journaling often is a good way of processing things and staying conscious about what's going on in my life. 


There was a time when I did the 3 pages of free writing every day.  It became a chore so I stopped.  I find I'm coming back to it again but more loosely.  I will admit to skimming many of her books - Finding Water, The Right to Write, A Prosperous Heart.  I have also read her memoir - Floor Sample.  My biggest issues with creativity is the belief that I don't deserve to be true to myself (if that makes sense) and that creativity is childish and a waste of time.  Both things I carry from childhood.  I am finding more and more that creativity (writing and painting ceramics) is my refuge.  Something unexplainable flows through me and nourishes me when I allow myself to be free.  :-)

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 My biggest issues with creativity is the belief that I don't deserve to be true to myself (if that makes sense) and that creativity is childish and a waste of time.  Both things I carry from childhood.  I am finding more and more that creativity (writing and painting ceramics) is my refuge.  Something unexplainable flows through me and nourishes me when I allow myself to be free.  :-)


I have found my way back to creativity because consuming wasn't satisfying anything.  I felt like a hungry ghost and this whole world wasn't enough.  I was devouring and destroying.  Then I realized that I must become a creator.  I MUST.  It was almost life-or-death.  Live every day hungry and dissatisfied, or create!

post #45 of 54
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I have found my way back to creativity because consuming wasn't satisfying anything.  I felt like a hungry ghost and this whole world wasn't enough.  I was devouring and destroying.  Then I realized that I must become a creator.  I MUST.  It was almost life-or-death.  Live every day hungry and dissatisfied, or create!

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post #46 of 54
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I've been reading "Game of Thrones" series, and I am moved by his weirwoods and the godswoods.  

 

Recently, I've been turning away from the masks that "modern" religion has given us-- the images of the Buddha, Jesus, even the most ancient myths of the spiritual journeys.  When I am on my walks through the wooded lanes over our hill and come to the Buddha Tree (a huge, lone cottonwood) I have taken to looking past the little Buddha statue at the base and to the tree itself.  It is comical, the juxtaposition of this tiny statue and this great tree behind it.  To think that this Mask, however helpful to the spiritual journey, could ever encompass the mysteries that it represents.

 

Of course, I "knew" that.  The stories, the archetypes, have been helpful and fascinating in their own right.  But I have inspired to move myself beyond that.  The Old Gods of the godswood had no name, no images.  I am ready for that.  I am ready for prayer to be openness.

 

I am not deceived (well....)  This is as much a mask as the others.  But it is the mask I can see directly, not a picture in the book I use as a lens to view the mask.  And this lens, these masks, have served me well over the decades since I first experienced the connectedness of the world.

 

My walks have become my prayer.  I have no one weirwood, with the ancient face, but the world is my godswood where I go to pray.  Sometimes the feeling is intense--my walk perhaps began with tension and fighting at home, and extreme lows often are accompanied by extreme highs and release.  It takes all my mental energy to center myself upon my breath, and hear the breath of the world.  Other times, when I am feeling centered, it is almost harder to center upon my breath because I am in full wonder, and thoughts come unbidding.

 

All my life I  have looked for teachers.  Now the teacher is myself, and I'm ready to face the primeval mask for myself.  What that will look like is not recorded in any book.  For now, I work on centering myself upon my breath, and listening to the breathing of the godswood and the world.  

 

That is the first step in the practice of Aikido as well which translates as "way of harmonized breath".  I know that our breaths are one, but right now I feel that as two.  I know the truth is somewhere in between "Not one, not two.  A singer and his song.  The sun and its light.  A wave upon the ocean.  Not one, not two."

 

I am thankful (what a great release, that feeling of thankfulness-- the most beautiful offering of Christianity) for being introduced to this concept of the godswood and the nameless gods.  It is fantasy in its creation, but so simple.  I like simplicity.  It offers no food for the intellect.  I am drawn to it like a moth to the flame.  It is the right direction.  The truth, whatever it is, can be found behind the trees, in the sound of leaves rustling and birdsong, the trickle of water, the beat of my own heart, my footfalls, my breath.  Opening awareness to all of it--first with the ears, and the eyes and the skin and the nose, into the heart and beyond.

post #47 of 54

That was amazing, SweetSilver. 

post #48 of 54
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A great article.  I love it when people of science recognize this kind of experience.  It's the place I come from as well.

 

When Nature Speaks, Who Are You Hearing?

post #49 of 54
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And for the scientifically minded, another piece by the author:

 

http://www.npr.org/blogs/13.7/2011/06/17/137219683/science-sacred-spiritual-what-is-in-a-word

post #50 of 54

Subbing and will be back when my brain and shoulders can handle a bit more of a message.

 

SweetSilver - you start many a great thread! Thank you!

post #51 of 54
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SweetSilver - you start many a great thread! Thank you!

Why, thank you!  I'm glad to make use of this format to compartmentalize my crazy thought processes.  I ramble mightily when talking in person, and can often lose a thread of conversation to trivial details, so the computer is a great place to put one thought here, another thought there, then they stay separate and I can go back to them and put the proper thought in the proper thread.  I'm afraid my brain never stops, but my posts have a definite beginning and a definite end (mostly).  And instead of bouncing around, they stay where I put them.  I like that.  Glad people can benefit from them, or get a laugh or whatever.

 

Looking forward to reading your thoughts.

post #52 of 54

Has anyone listened to the lectures given by Alan Watts?

post #53 of 54
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These are on you tube:

 

http://www.youtube.com/user/AlanWattsLectures

 

Are these what you mean?  I haven't seen them.  I'll be looking forward to it.

post #54 of 54

Yes!

I am a work at home mom, and the only time I can really get anything done is after the kids are asleep. This is when I enjoy listening to programs on the internet. Alan Watts is one of my favorites (along with Terence McKenna, if you really want to go on a trip!)

 

The concepts of polarity, paradoxes, yin and yang, etc are ideas I often think about. Alan Watts studied Eastern philosophies, and his lectures are very entertaining. Still, they do not fully explain what I feel inside, but it's a start! I don't think I've ever come across any person or writing that fully explains what I feel--have you?

It is fun to think of spirits, other realities, time, space, universes within the smallest spaces, your own ego and consciousness, etc. In the end, these are still just "things" and concepts. Imagine you learned about everything there is to know, and everything finally has an explanation. Everything. Then what? What is left? This is what interests me at the moment--what is this "thing" behind everything, the "thing" you have after all is explained and everything is known?

 

Well, one thought is this "thing" behind everything IS everything. There is no separation. Existence, and everything about it, just is.  (I told you I couldn't explain it in words lol!)

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