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post #81 of 175
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Originally Posted by fourgrtkidos
Is he stupid? The public school people might say so, but I think he's gifted in a different way. Can you, an adult, take your neighbors 3 broken lawnmowers and build him one perfect new one from the bottom up?!

This is what Howard Gardner's work on multiple intelligences is all about. This, to me, is a child who is intelligent in a different way; unfortunately, school systems generally only recognize verbal and mathematical intelligence.
post #82 of 175
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Originally Posted by Suzannah
This is what Howard Gardner's work on multiple intelligences is all about. This, to me, is a child who is intelligent in a different way; unfortunately, school systems generally only recognize verbal and mathematical intelligence.
And that only to a certain point, beyond which you are SOL. :

Even if I thought that Eli was perfectly average, I'd keep him home from school so that I wouldn't have to deal with principals like the one mentioned above. I've seen so much of that! I had an IEP when I went to school, mostly because my mother threw fits at the administration and because my test scores were so ludicrously high that they felt obliged to do what they could to keep me. : Even so, I spent a lot of time bored and miserable at school. They can only do so much, you know? A gifted program with somewhat excited but not terribly bright teachers wasn't all that helpful to me. Sure, it got me out of class a lot, but so did in school suspension! :LOL I loved ISS, especially in high school; I just couldn't get over it! It was like "Okay, I'm late for school every single day because I don't want to be in class, so to 'punish' me, you're sending me to a room where I can sit and read any book I want and do logic problems all day? And I'm not expected to talk to anyone or answer stupid questions after attendance is taken? Brilliant!" I used to just grab something off the shelf that I hadn't read yet (or something that I had and loved) and a new book of logic problems and I was all set for a lovely day of doing nothing. It was better than staying home, because noone was hassling me to clean my room. It was perfectly quiet, and well lit.. if there had been a window, I'd have been happier than a pig in slop. :LOL

EliBean is doing very well, though I can't say the same thing for myself.. I'm tired, and huge, and hot and achey all the time. My sweet Bean has been very patient with me, but I'm just not doing a great job on the mommy front these days. Someone please tell me that he won't be scarred for life by this! I love him so much, but I can't seem to get over the feeling that he's missing out on more than nursie-milk and extra love-loves. I feel so guilty and wonder if I'll be able to get pregnant again before NewBean is 10 without feeling so guilty...
post #83 of 175
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Originally Posted by eilonwy
"Okay, I'm late for school every single day because I don't want to be in class, so to 'punish' me, you're sending me to a room where I can sit and read any book I want and do logic problems all day? And I'm not expected to talk to anyone or answer stupid questions after attendance is taken? Brilliant!" I used to just grab something off the shelf that I hadn't read yet (or something that I had and loved) and a new book of logic problems and I was all set for a lovely day of doing nothing. It was better than staying home, because noone was hassling me to clean my room. It was perfectly quiet, and well lit.. if there had been a window, I'd have been happier than a pig in slop. :LOL

That is how I felt in high school. I would pretend to go to school, but instead I would head to the public library and spend the day learning about things that actually interested me. I would find a stack of books about religions from around the world, different periods of history, modern theater, nutrition, etc. and just read for 7 or 8 hours. :LOL After I met dh we would meet up at the library (he was SUPPOSED to be in college and I was SUPPOSED to be in high school) and read scripts from old tv shows, rent classic comedies to watch later, or swap info about the books we had found. We always thought it was funny that most people would head to the arcade but we couldn't wait to go to the library :LOL
post #84 of 175
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Originally Posted by eilonwy
EliBean is doing very well, though I can't say the same thing for myself.. I'm tired, and huge, and hot and achey all the time. My sweet Bean has been very patient with me, but I'm just not doing a great job on the mommy front these days. Someone please tell me that he won't be scarred for life by this! I love him so much, but I can't seem to get over the feeling that he's missing out on more than nursie-milk and extra love-loves. I feel so guilty and wonder if I'll be able to get pregnant again before NewBean is 10 without feeling so guilty...
During the rough parts of my pregnancy I let Akira play (educational) video games. He loved the educational aspects and learned a lot from them. He learned problem solving, math, spelling, info on the planets, telling time, etc. It helped for the early days when I was so exhausted because he NEVER slept. He picks up things very quickly that way. He could turn it on and load the games and programs without my help so I could just rest on the couch He was around 20 mo then. He also loved puzzles. He did maps of Canada and learned all the provinces and who we knew in each one. He did animals, planets, scenery, whatever caught his attention. He started with the 24 peice ones, but can now do up to 100 peices. We bought too many of the small ones because we didn't think he would go through them so fast (just to warn ya ). Math with marbles and such ws a nice easy project too. Just some ideas
post #85 of 175
Wow, that was a lot of posts to wade through.

I've checked this forum on occasion hoping that *eventually* this topic would come up... and here it is!

Though "spirited" by definition, DD has gotten easier with age (or I have gotten more accepting, :LOL). I can't imagine the problems we would have if we did things "normally" (we unschool, don't seperate, etc...) but it is working well for us.

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today he was walking around in a laundry bag flapping his arms and told me he was trunign into a butterfly. i asked if the bag was his cacoon and he said "no mommy, its my chrysalis" sigh.
Hmmm.... I've had the same conversation. Well, it was actually an employee at the science center using the wrong word, thankfully!

Esp when DD was younger, people would assume she could do virtually nothing because she was so offended by what they would ask her she would not respond (like to spell her name, or count, etc... when she considered those baby things). She is still taken aback by what skills her age mates lack, but it has gotten much easier now that she understands not everyone does everything at the same pace. And luckily our pediatrician understands the issue and doesn't ask her age appropirate questions, but developmentally appropriate questions at this point!

I look forward to hearing more from all of you,
Kay
post #86 of 175
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Originally Posted by akirasmama
During the rough parts of my pregnancy I let Akira play (educational) video games. He loved the educational aspects and learned a lot from them. He learned problem solving, math, spelling, info on the planets, telling time, etc. It helped for the early days when I was so exhausted because he NEVER slept. He picks up things very quickly that way. He could turn it on and load the games and programs without my help so I could just rest on the couch He was around 20 mo then. He also loved puzzles. He did maps of Canada and learned all the provinces and who we knew in each one. He did animals, planets, scenery, whatever caught his attention. He started with the 24 peice ones, but can now do up to 100 peices. We bought too many of the small ones because we didn't think he would go through them so fast (just to warn ya ). Math with marbles and such ws a nice easy project too. Just some ideas
Eli loves maps and puzzles, and will sit with a map for ages; I got a whole bunch of free National Geographics at the library (can you believe some people just give them away!?), and lots of them still had their maps inside so I laminated them (for free! I worked this year as a Sunday school teacher ) and hung some on the walls. He gets so excited when he sees the National Geographic logo, and can point out all kinds of geographical and political features. (This is one thing which, while I know it shouldn't surprise me, really freaked me out. Who expects to hear a 16 month old say "National Geographic! Albany! Hudson River! It's water, Mamma!" )

He's only got two puzzles, though, and unless we win the lottery he probably won't have more for a while. : They're cheap, but they're not cheap enough! :LOL I did pick up a huge pile of interesting toys at a yard sale for $5 (at the end of the sale when people are like "please take this huge pile of stuff so that I don't have to bring it back into my house!") which Eli adores.. Duplo blocks and a thing that's a yellow board with holes in it and different sized gears that you can arrange with handles and whatnot. He loves it, and frequently brings gears to bed with him. Gears, cars, books.. I've awakened to find each (sometimes all) of them embedded in some part of my body. :LOL

I've got doubles (and even a few triples) of many of the National Geographics and was planning to raid them for pictures so I could make posters of animals, people, places, etc. They have such beautiful photographs and illustrations, and I think they'd make the world's coolest alphabet posters and such. :LOL I even have doubles of some of the maps! (I still can't believe that there were any issues with maps in them at all, but we have quite a collection!) I'm not sure what I'll do with those... maybe eBay. :LOL I wonder if people buy National Geographic maps? Some of them are totally not relevant, but even those are still interesting. And a surprising number of them are relevant... for example, there are two of Mount Everest & The Himilayas. Very cool stuff!

I can't wait to not be pregnant anymore so I can go and pick up more! :LOL (Wow, do I have a really warped idea of a good time? :LOL)
post #87 of 175
We have maps and puzzles and logic books out the wazoo. Some of the puzzles I can't even do...then my kids walk in and go "sheesh, mom, here ya go!". Oh, what I wouldn't give for one day of "normal" and "average"!!

I so understand everyone's difficulties with teaching phonics. Well, maybe not the teaching of it, but the dealing with the perfectionist mentality of someone learning it!! (Not to mention sitting through "c............a............t..........c....at..... ........cat" for six hours at a time, when she could just say the damn word, since she's known it for about 3 years now!!!!!!!
I'll never forget taking my dd to the doctor once...the sign on the desk said "Outpatient Records". My dd was 3yo then, and there was another little girl (bigger and older than my dd) who was pointing at the letters and saying letter names. The only one she got right was the "O". (like this...o q r g h...)
My dd just got a disgusted look on her face, walked up to the sign and spelled it out...O u t p a ...and said "Don't you KNOW that? You're big!" The poor girls mother about died, and I wanted to crawl under a rock!

The very best money we've ever spent in our entire lives as parents has been on the math manipulatives box from Saxon Math. It's about $50, but it's a huge tub full of flashcards, counting bears, dominoes, geoboards, tangrams, a scale, clocks, etc. My kids can sit and play with the "math toys" for hours upon hours. They can play together, at their own levels, or my older dd can teach my ds new things. It's amazing to watch, and they love it. You can often find them on homeschool resale boards or on ebay....I'm telling you...excellent money spent!
post #88 of 175
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Originally Posted by grnbn76
I'll never forget taking my dd to the doctor once...the sign on the desk said "Outpatient Records". My dd was 3yo then, and there was another little girl (bigger and older than my dd) who was pointing at the letters and saying letter names. The only one she got right was the "O". (like this...o q r g h...)
My dd just got a disgusted look on her face, walked up to the sign and spelled it out...O u t p a ...and said "Don't you KNOW that? You're big!" The poor girls mother about died, and I wanted to crawl under a rock!
: : I'm sorry to laugh, but this struck me as hilarious.. probably because I was the same way as a little kid. I can remember saying and doing such things often, before the "Even an Epsilon" speech my mother gave us.

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The very best money we've ever spent in our entire lives as parents has been on the math manipulatives box from Saxon Math. It's about $50, but it's a huge tub full of flashcards, counting bears, dominoes, geoboards, tangrams, a scale, clocks, etc. My kids can sit and play with the "math toys" for hours upon hours. They can play together, at their own levels, or my older dd can teach my ds new things. It's amazing to watch, and they love it. You can often find them on homeschool resale boards or on ebay....I'm telling you...excellent money spent!
I've been really debating buying one of those tubs, or compiling one out of stuff cheaper than that. (Sometimes, when I'm not pregnant, I'm really creative at making things out of thin air, dryer lint, chewing gum and about $5 :LOL) The problem is, I don't know if I'd be doing it for me or for Eli. :LOL It seriously worries me that I will, through my enthusiasm for a particular subject, unconsciously project positive vibes about it while projecting negative vibes about the subjects which don't particularly interest me. For example, the maps; I love looking at them, I think they're fun, but my husband as a small child could spend hours just staring at a globe. Not I! I ran experiments with stuff I found under the sink (thanks to a very solid memory, and lots of luck, I never killed myself or anyone else :LOL). So I guess the math manipulatives will wait until he's old enough to ask for them specifically. Which, at this rate, will be about 6 months. :LOL
post #89 of 175

We're yanking ds from his current preschool...

Well it's decided. We're taking ds out of his current preschool and going to enroll him in a Montessori program. I think it will be better for him -- mixed age groups so he can interact with some older (and younger) kids, plenty of stuff for him to be engaged with yet be challenged at the same time. It's five days a week instead of only three, but it's from 8:30 - 12noon, which is a better time of day for him anyway. (Our current class is from 1 - 3:30pm -- depriving him of nap time!) It's a little more expensive, but it's 10 minutes closer to home which is nice. I'm nervous, but excited! Cross your fingers for us!! :
post #90 of 175
Good luck, Deb!

I'm feeling pretty good today. Late last week, Eli pulled out his color & shape card game and started bringing them to me. "purple!" "rectangle!" etc, etc, and so forth. Still, he wants me to sit with him for much longer than I can right now, but I guess I"m feeling a lot less like he'll be scarred for life.

I've been reading the homeschooling forum a lot lately, and I'm very depressed by it. These attitudes are exactly why I'm so hesitant to start a secular homeschooling group around here while Eli is still so young. The thing is, I rarely hear comments like that in real life. People who've actually met Eli can tell that he's not being coerced, I guess... either that, or they're too polite/shy to say anything to me. I'd like to think that Eli's babyness speaks for itself, and that it's just very obvious that he's a healthy, happy, loved little man who happens to be intellectually more advanced than his age-peers. Maybe when people look at him and talk to him, they don't see a little tiny robot being forced to do things he's unwilling and/or unable to do, but a healthy little boy who's parents actively encourage his explorations and his attempts to acquire new skills. Maybe that's what it takes; they'd have to meet EliBean to understand where I'm coming from.

The other thing is, while they vociferously deny it, I really think that it has to do with my refusal to unschool, or even to consider it. Honestly, that's got a lot to do with me. I've got very strong feelings on the subject, and I don't pretend that my rationale will make sense to everyone. All I can say is "unschooling is not for me; never has been and never will be". Why the need to attempt to educate me on what it actually entails? I already know, and I already know why a)I'd be bad at it and b)I disagree with the philosophies. Why does that make me a bad parent? I'm not trying to make anyone feel inferior about it, so why must they try to make me feel inferior about my decision? It makes my head spin!

Argh, this is all getting off topic. I need to find that rescue remedy...
post #91 of 175

Glad I found this thread!

I'm jumping in late here and I haven't had time to read more than the first two pages of the thread, but I'm nodding my head and going Yup...that's my kids...all three of them, in their own ways! My oldest ds, almost seven, asks very intelligent questions and gets impatient with me when I give an answer that's too "simple". He's in first grade in public school and is extremely bored there. They don't really have a gifted program and nothing challenges him there. I'd like to homeschool him and maybe circumstances might be changing so I can do that...otherwise he's very sensitive emotionally; I have to watch what I say around him and how I say it.

My dd, age 4 1/2, is the most socially oriented one in the family. She'll strike up conversations with adults anywhere and is baffled when other kids act shy or don't respond. She's very headstrong and determined; when she wants to do something it's hard to tell her no.

My ds, age 2 1/2, shows a lot of the traits discussed in this thread--the sensitivity to noise (I can't have him in the house while I vacuum...TOO LOUD!), the need to have things a certain way or he falls apart (He'll throw a fit if I take Daddy's coffee cup instead of mine! ) and obsession with certain things...right now it's construction equipment and he can tell you the difference between a backhoe, bulldozer and front loader! And he's very verbal; he uses long detailed sentences. He remembers small details about things.

So put all three of them together and what do you get? One frazzled mom with gifted/overstimulation issues to begin with! More later, I gotta go now!
post #92 of 175
[QUOTE=flutemandolin and obsession with certain things...right now it's construction equipment and he can tell you the difference between a backhoe, bulldozer and front loader![/QUOTE]


This was so much like my ds!! I remember getting screams of NOOOOO from the back seat from him when he was 17 months because I incorrectly identifieds a backhoe as an excavator. He then proceded to lecture me on why I was wrong!! He wasn't very verbal (kind of a late talker) but he was VERY good at letting us know when we were wrong (and exactly WHY we were wrong) :LOL

He used to get really upset with his Grandma too, she never realized that he knew the alphabet and at 11 mo she was going through the letters of his favorite alphabet puzzle and tried to put the "G" in the "C" space (they looked pretty much the same). He yelled "NOOOOO C not G!!!" He then grabbed the letters out of her hand and put them away himself. He gave her lots of attitude about it too, kind of like she couldn't be trusted with his puzzles. :LOL It was soooo funny. She was pretty surprised though, she thought (well, still thinks) that we are exaggerating his abilities He doesn't share his abilities with her because of that.
post #93 of 175
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Originally Posted by akirasmama
She was pretty surprised though, she thought (well, still thinks) that we are exaggerating his abilities He doesn't share his abilities with her because of that.
We have this problem with Mike's family, though not to a huge extent. It's not that they don't believe it, it's that they just don't understand it. I have to remind them all the time to use words and speak in full sentences and such. For example, Mike and I make an effort not to say "NO!" all the time, and we explained this to his family. They understood, and thought it made a lot of sense, but when Eli would reach for an outlet instead of saying "Eli, please don't touch the outlet," they'd say "uh-uh-uh-uh-uh!" Um, no, that wasn't what we meant by not saying "NO!" I still have to remind them to use sentences, or at least real words, and that drives me nuts.

My mother does understand, but she seems to expect more from Eli. "Your diction was much better at 18 months." And so on and so forth. It's like she's stuck in "my baby is better than your baby" mode, even though we're talking about her grandchild and her youngest "baby" is 22 years old with two children!

I guess it's because Eli has the most stable family life of any of her grandchildren; he's the most normal one, because his life is the most reasonable. Eli's never had to worry about the things that my nieces and nephew have to deal with every day. His life is fairly stable, he has two parents who love him dearly and are excited to see him. My pregnancy has been the most stressful thing that Eli has had to endure. This isn't saying that Mike and I never argue or that we're perfect people, by any stretch, but compared with my sister and brother, our relationship *is* perfect. It's a real bummer for me to think about.

At any rate, my mom is either comparing Eli to me & my siblings because his life is the most normal/reasonable or because I am her least favorite child... she never did this with my nieces or nephew. (Except in the very beginning with my older niece, because she was honestly concerned about her development. She's a bright little girl, but she's nothing like we were at all. ) Maybe it's some combination of the two. I don't care. I'm not the least bit concerned about the fact that some of the time people can't understand what Eli's saying. I know how smart he is, and I know how far from average he is, and I know what I need to do to cope with that and to help him cope with it later in life.
post #94 of 175
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Originally Posted by eilonwy
I know how smart he is, and I know how far from average he is, and I know what I need to do to cope with that and to help him cope with it later in life.
You go, girl!

I wish I had half your confidence!
post #95 of 175
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Originally Posted by Britishmum
One of the things I find frustrating is the notion that my child is no different to others, and that all things will even out in the end. Maybe that is true in some cases, but it is frustrating to feel dismissed like this.
I think this is exactly what I'm getting at. I understand why it happens, but it's just not a reasonable assumption to make! Why the assumption that every kid is only one or two standard deviations from normal? Why assume that when a parent talks about their child, that they're seeing things "with a mother's eyes" and not at all objectively? It's so incredibly frustrating! Especially now, when I don't feel like I'm making cohesive or coherent arguments in the first place, I feel like I'm just spinning my wheels in these conversations. ARGH!! I'm really looking forward to the brain fog lifting!

My mother laughs about my brain fog. She spent four years in a row pregnant and when we were very small actually went and had her IQ tested because she was sure that she'd somehow turned really stupid over the course of the pregnancies, and she needed reassurance that it would, eventually, come back. :LOL

I was wondering if any of you are planning to send your children to school at all? If you're planning to homeschool, what kind of program/lack of program would you like to do? When I tell people that I'm working on collecting supplies, the ones who haven't met Eli think I'm nuts and the ones who have wonder why I didn't start sooner. :LOL In this state, you don't legally have to enroll your child in school at all until "the semester during which the child will be 8 years old by the end of the second week"; for us, that's January of 2011. So, I don't have to file an affidavit of intent to homeschool until January of 2011, but I'll file early (1 July, 2010) to keep my school years on track. The school year technically begins on 1 July and ends on 30 June every year, and since I want to be able to take huge spans of time off, I figure that doing it year round makes the most sense.
post #96 of 175

We're doing school

But are already investigating early kindergarten entrance. Officially ds shouldn't start until 06-07 school year, but we're thinking we will advance that by one year so he'll start not this fall but the next. We're lucky that there is a magnet school program here and one is a G&T school, so he could be getting a more individualized curriculum even in kindergarten. Of course, we're also trying out this Montessori school, and if that really rocks, we may just keep him there for a while.

I actually think homeschooling would probably be the best in terms of academics and tailoring the curriculum to his needs. But I'll be honest -- although I like staying at home, I'm more of a sequencing-type of mom. I plan on doing full-time videography work (hopefully out of my home) and I'll need some dedicated hours without the kids around. The other thing is that I suspect ds#2 is also gifted, and I just don't think I could handle trying to homeschool two kids at once!

Homeschooling seems like it could be great. I do think homeschoolers need to make a conscious effort to get their kids into social activities though. That IS an important and critical aspect of growing up, despite the oh-so-blase attitude that it'll "just happen naturally." And I don't mean just seeing random kids at the park every once in a while; I mean, repeated interactions with the same kids over and over again so they can develop friendships, crushes, get into fights, reconcile, etc. The biggest gripe I have with the prepared curriculums I have seen is that they all seem to be religious. I haven't seen a secular curriculum that impressed me yet.

PS: A friend of mine mentioned that in some states, kids are allowed to go to school for some of the time, and then homeschool some of the time! I thought that sounded pretty awesome.
post #97 of 175
We homeschool--for quite a few reasons, but the top reason was because the school he was in (he was in preschool, kindergarten, and 1/2 year of first grade. The school I am talking about was the one he was in for first grade) wouldn't let him work on his level until he completed all his "regular" work. Work that he had done in PRESCHOOL.
I'm sure they had wonderful intentions, but ds just shuts down and goes into his own world when he is bored. He never got his schoolwork done. And they had a rule that children that didn't get classroom work done couldn't play outside at recess or participate in special classroom activities.
So. Ds sat INSIDE, ALONE during recess. And spent at least one day a week sitting out in the hall, ALONE, because he didn't finish his deskwork.
hmm...sounds very educational to me (and social too)

The other kids were the other reason we took him out. He is emotionally immature. He doesn't like death/dying, so won't play war games. He also likes the color pink.
Being innocent, as he was, when it came up, he told the class his favorite color was pink. From that day on, there was a group of boys that always threw their pink crayons at him and picked on him as much as possible.
*bleh*

We spent so much time at the school, in conferences with the teacher, being reassured all our concerns were being taken care of...and still after-schooling at home (supplementing his public school education at home...)
It just got ridiculous. And we started homeschooling.

If you want a non-religious program (or at least one you can follow without doing the religious aspects, I would highly recommend ambleside online (a Charlotte Mason inspired program): http://www.amblesideonline.com or The Well-Trained Mind: http://www.welltrainedmind.com

We do an eclectic mix of both.

When ds was younger, he LOVED (I can't stress enough how much he loved these!) Brighter Vision Learning Adventure kits: http://www.brightervision.com
They offer an initial free kit, if you want to try it.
The kits come with a hardcover picture book, a level-appropriate themed workbook, a game, an activity, and stickers....they come once a month and were perfect up until he was about 4.

Sorry for the long post--I hardly get a chance to post--ds2 keeps me running around more than I thought possible.

Eilonwy--my brain recovered when ds was about 9 months old. I'm still back up to par, but I was so relieved when one day I realized I could actually THINK again (much to ds1's dismay, since it meant I realized how much schoolwork wasn't getting done!!)

Lauren
post #98 of 175
We will mostly unschool, perhaps with some structure when ds feels he needs it. I can imagine "teaching" him anything. He is the type of child who needs to figure it out on his own. If we try to teach him something he plays dumb and pretends he doesn't know what we are talking about. Last year he sat quietly by himself for hours every day going over books again and again until he figured out how to read. If we were to ask him to read he would get all the words mixed up (with that tell-tale look on his face that gives away the fact he's fooling us :LOL), yet if I ask him to read me a bedtime story during a make believe game he will pick up a book he has never seen before and read the whole thing to me.

He is the same way with everything. I imagine this would lead to a lot of problems in a school environment. It works better for him to just see what he is interested in and provide him with suitable materials.

Plus, he is way to sensitive for a school environment. He could not tolerate that many other people around him for any length of time. He also likes the color pink The other kids just don't "get" him.

I plan to register him next year. We will get a certain amount of $$$$ every year for supplies/programs, etc from the gov't. He already knows all the requirements for kindergarten so we can spend the money on things that will suite his needs. Plus, the supplies will be ours to keep so we can use them with ds2 too.
post #99 of 175
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Originally Posted by akirasmama
I plan to register him next year. We will get a certain amount of $$$$ every year for supplies/programs, etc from the gov't. He already knows all the requirements for kindergarten so we can spend the money on things that will suite his needs. Plus, the supplies will be ours to keep so we can use them with ds2 too.
That's cool! I don't think my state does that, but it'd sure be nice! :LOL If they did, I'd register Eli this year for Pre-K.

I went to an informational meeting about homeschooling and found out that they do get really tense about grade levels... for example, if you file on 1 July 2004 and say your kid is in 1st grade, and then on 1 July 2005 you say they're in 3rd grade, people will flip out. This doesn't make any sense to me, it just seems plain silly... isn't one of the great attractions of homeschooling that your child can work at their own pace? And I wouldn't have a problem with just saying 1st, 2nd, 3rd, etc all in a row, but what happens when Eli wants to go to college and the affidavit I'm filing says he's in 6th grade? I haven't worked out what I'm going to do about that yet.

As for curricula.. I really like The Well-Trained Mind. It appeals not only to my affection for detail, but to my penchant for making lists and writing things down.. there's enough record keeping involved to keep me happier than a pig in slop. :LOL Plus, I can see ways to stretch that material so that I can keep my kids learning and entertained and interested long enough that I'm not sending them to college before they're emotionally or physically ready just because I can't justify holding them back academically. I'd like for my daughter to be at home when she has her first period, not in a dorm room somewhere, kwim? We'll do it at whatever speeds the kids are comfortable with, provided I can get materials, and I'm really looking forward to it. I still haven't decided on a math curriculum, though... I'm kind of torn between Saxon and Singapore right now. If we do Saxon, I'll have to find a way to talk someone else into buying it for me because it's wicked expensive, but I think it could be managed. We'll see!

I am just totally not an unschooler. I'm the parent who's got five different growth charts, all meticulously filled out and up to date at every doctor's appointment; I like to see progress. :LOL I'm way too tense to unschool, and I'd find myself forcing my preferences on my children for certain which really isn't fair to them. If, for example, Eli decides that he loves History, as an unschooler he'd be forced to pressure me into doing history activities.

Then there's the "child-led learning". While I disagree with the strong undercurrent of "Children will never want to learn when they're capable of learning" in TWTM, I'm not a fan of child-led learning becuase it feels to me like an abdication of my responsibilities, like saying it's not my job to actively teach him. If I wanted my kids to be responsible for their own educations, I'd send them to public school. I don't think that's fair, I really feel like it's my job to educate my children, so I feel a need to take a more active approach.

OMG, I am soooo ready to give birth! My brain hurts! :LOL
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I am just totally not an unschooler. I'm the parent who's got five different growth charts, all meticulously filled out and up to date at every doctor's appointment; I like to see progress. :LOL I'm way too tense to unschool, and I'd find myself forcing my preferences on my children for certain which really isn't fair to them.

:LOL I think my mother wishes I were you I am exactly the opposite. Self-prenatal, UCbirth, no weights or measurements, no doctors, no charts, no records. I hate that stuff. I guess no school just falls in well with the rest of it I drive my ultra-organized mother crazy (maybe that is why I do it, part of the big rebellion :LOL) Thankfully Akira hates our interference, so we are a good fit as a family
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