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post #81 of 242

Ahh, in that case StephandOwen, I'm with Izzybelly.   From the pro con list, it seemed like you were leaning 40w1d, but it sounds like your heart is maybe leaning the other way.   The good news is either is likely to be fine. 

 

AFM, I am also having a dilemma, maybe someone has some advice?

 

My HMO gave me a due date of Oct 1, based on my LMP, but it didn't align with anything else-- both ultrasounds said that was too early, and I couldn't have conceived that early. Also, I have super long periods, once I had a 72 day cycle, so a 28 day cycle would be crazy for me. About 25 weeks along, I finally gave up on trying to be ok with my care under my HMO, found midwives and decided to do a homebirth.  They looked at all the information and picked the date furthest out based the ultrasounds, Oct 11.  The real date is probably in between somewhere.    I am still using the HMO for all my labs and tests, because they are free, but I don't have a care provider there, I just get passed around to whoever has time.  I haven't seen the same person twice.  I haven't been to the HMO since their 36 weeks for my GBS test.  Except for being GBS+, my pregnancy has been textbook, no issues at all.  I think the HMO forgot I existed, which has been fine with me.

 

Since my little one isn't making her move, I need to make a decision.  I'm coming up on 42 weeks for the HMO (Oct 15), and I haven't done an NST yet.  The midwives will wants them starting at 41 weeks (Oct 18), but I feel like if I ask for an NST October 18, the HMO is just going to say I need to have the baby, period.  I'd be fine with having a NST this week, since I think I'm probably getting close to the "real" 41 weeks but I will be putting myself back on the HMO's radar and subjecting myself to induction pressure (they definitely think the earlier the baby comes the better).   I'm a worrier-- I could totally stand up for myself in the moment, but if someone said to me, "Why don't you care about your baby's health?" (like the doctor did when I said I was doing a homebirth), I would definitely go home and stew.   I'm trying really hard to trust my body, it's often smarter than me, and has done the whole rest of this pregnancy thing perfectly.

 

The midwives don't care if I start NSTs early, they just won't ask me to do one until 41 weeks.

 

What would you do?

A.  Call the HMO and schedule the NST tomorrow and just deal if they pressure

B.  Wait and hope the kid comes, and if she doesn't, try to schedule it the 18th.

C.  Wait and hope the kid comes, and find another way to do a NST if I need one the 18th

D. Some other option I'm not seeing

post #82 of 242

Congratulations, yellowdart and capretta!!! joy.gifjoy.gif (Good grief, capretta, 47 hours?!)

 

co-sleeping: I do not feel comfortable on a mattress topper with a baby, so we swapped our mattress with our guest room mattress (plain spring mattress.) In the early months, we also use something very similar to what Katico posted, except a different brand. (Ours is by Baby Delight and is called a Snuggle Nest.) Sadly, I think we may not get as much use out of it this time, as our little bruiser is already turning onto his side.

 

Steph, what's your Bishop score? Do you know? That can help give you a sense of the likelihood of a successful induction. Otherwise, though, honestly, it's a complicated decision. So I would think about it, sleep on it, and do what feels right to you. Try to imagine yourself walking down each path, imagine the different possible outcomes, and reflect on how you would feel about that possibility.

 

Izzybelly, I am so sorry about your Janie. I love the idea of the high five.

 

Rosemary and Katico, ha on wanting to stay at the hospital! My sister was in the country last week and we were chatting about this. When she had her kids overseas, both vaginally, she stayed in clinic for four days, with lovely meals and nurses at the ready if she wanted help getting to the toilet, etc. It was really nice that I was out in 24 hours so that I could be home, see her, and so on, but I definitely get why people like staying longer. Do you have help lined up for after you come home?

 

Baby photos: Love. Adding a few:

 

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post #83 of 242

Oh, he's sooo sweet.

 

I've been having contractions tonight.. nothing too strong or anything. About 5-8 minutes apart. Actually, the few I just timed were closer than that. I'm trying not to get my hopes up though.

post #84 of 242

Fingers crossed for you, Nicole!

 

I forget which thread I read this on now, but I think it was here. Someone was commenting on how their babe was both low and high, and perhaps this meant a tall baby. I had the same thing, and he came out at 58 cm long, so that was definitely the case for us!

post #85 of 242

yellowdart & capretta joy.gif

 

pi what a handsome guy!

 

steph I thought it sounded like you were leaning towards the earlier date, too, but I can def see the pros & cons to both. 

 

puente I'd probably go ahead and do the NST on the 15th if you think the "real" date is somewhere between 10/1 and 10/11.   Since you have no ongoing relationship with the Drs at your HMO, maybe it will be easier to tell them where to stick it if they try to pressure you to induce winky.gif  Someone said this already (in this thread? another one?) but if the HMO is really insistent you can always allow them to "schedule" your induction & then cancel it.

 

izzy so sorry about your dog

 

amy may ROTFLMAO.gif

 

 

 

 

post #86 of 242

izzy ... so sorry to hear about your dog.  High five, indeed! 

 

steph ... Sorry not to have any advice.  Just know that you're in my thoughts either way!

 

congratulations, Capretta!  Can't wait to hear more about it!

 

~pi ... that picture with his bright eyes wide open is gorgeous! 

 

co-sleeping ... Our dd has been with us in bed since her birth almost three years ago.  She just slept beside me in the crook of my arm. We did have a pillow top back then, and it was not a problem, although it wasn't a very skooshy one. I kept the blankets low and her appropriately dressed.  This time I've been on the couch with ds (first time I ever used 'ds!!!!') since he was born, with him sleeping on my chest or beside me, with all of the bolster pillows removed.  We're moving back to the family bed tonight!  I'm so excited to be able to get on and off our low bed at last!  He'll sleep beside me, on the outside of the bed, then me, then dp, then dd.  We have a coil mattress from IKEA, semi firm. We set up a special corner for her (she's used to sleeping beside me) with her name in stickers on the headboard, and the names of her lovies too, and a bumper for if she's floppy.  She's very excited about it.  I hope that lasts. 

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What would you do?

A.  Call the HMO and schedule the NST tomorrow and just deal if they pressure

B.  Wait and hope the kid comes, and if she doesn't, try to schedule it the 18th.

C.  Wait and hope the kid comes, and find another way to do a NST if I need one the 18th

D. Some other option I'm not seeing
 

I had to deal with this sort of thing with my last baby- "shadow care". Unfortunately they did know exactly who I was so it was a little more uncomfortable for them b/c I felt like I had to lie by omission the whole time (that in California too... maybe its how the insurance works there? I had to go through my PPO providers to get free testing, etc, otherwise I would have to pay full price for everything. Meanwhile I just paid out of pocket for the MWs). I ended up doing a biophysical (which was fine) at 36 weeks and then I scheduled a NST to make them get off my back and happened to go into labor that day. I called in that morning and canceled. So.... my advice would be try calling and scheduling a NST for a date that your MWs agree is reasonable, and go from there. If they really perssure you, yes, just let them "schedule" the induction and you can cancel. Or just politely say, "I am not going to schedule that right now". Or, "I need to sleep on it for a night" or "I need to check with my partner before I can schedule it, who should I call?" Oh I also waited for the last minute to schedule the NSTs and they were booked up so they couldn't get me in as early as they wanted ;)

 

Good luck. Its hard to try and navigate the health care system that makes it hard to get preventative care without all the over-medicalization and panic mode. Its crazy.

post #88 of 242

~pi: the pictures are so sweet!

post #89 of 242

I am quite furious that the Skeptical OB has chosen to use one of your birth stories for her agenda.  I hope mama can be protected from this.  I don't know if she has any recourse.Cuss.gif

post #90 of 242

Nicole, good luck! I'm excited for you.

 

Pi, the pictures, so wonderful. Thank you for sharing them.

 

What is meant by the post above? I'm sure I missed something.

 

AFM: Dreamed that I was at the birth center for an appointment, and they tried to admit me for labor. Since I wasn't having any contractions, I didn't want to be admitted. A nurse (which we don't have at the bc) reassured me that the OB at the hospital was great, that he'd delivered babies for Jackie Kennedy (???) and I said, "Oh, so he drugs you and pulls out your baby?" at which point nurse comes at me with a huge needle and tries to jab me and I have to kick her and ask what she's doing and she says she's inducing me and I won't feel a thing. She's attacking me with the needle and I'm swatting at her and screaming, and then I wake up. To DS trying to get into bed with me.

post #91 of 242
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What is meant by the post above? I'm sure I missed something.



I'm lost as well. I've been reading along in this thread, even though I'm not posting much, but I have no idea what that post means.

post #92 of 242
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I'm lost as well. I've been reading along in this thread, even though I'm not posting much, but I have no idea what that post means.



A quick google search figured it out. That's just sick and disturbing that someone would pick apart a birth story. It's here, if anyone wants to look.

post #93 of 242
Regarding Youngfrankenstein's post - the Skeptical OB is a (retired?) OB who writes a blog that's usually pretty anti-homebirth. She seems to like to take examples from stories/issues women post here on MDC...and she's done just that - her 10/10 post quotes one of our DDC member's birth stories to make her latest point. greensad.gif
post #94 of 242

Can she do that?! What an unbelievably rude and hurtful and horrible thing to do! I'm going to leave a comment. 

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Can she do that?! What an unbelievably rude and hurtful and horrible thing to do! I'm going to leave a comment. 


Sadly, she can and it makes me wonder about posting here in the past about my hb issues.  Many of the comments seem to be supportive of the mom so that's a silver lining I guess.

 

post #96 of 242

For some reason I thought MDC due date clubs were safer than that. greensad.gif Naive, and I do realize that MDC is not to blame in any way. 

Oh well. It makes me think that I should probably give a little more thought to what I post. That makes me sad. I had this "this is a safe place" type feeling about our DDC, and that has just been blown to smithereens. It makes me sad. (Of course I am also 4 days post partum hormone-wise, which doesn't help.)

post #97 of 242

I wonder: should we start posting our birth stories just on our DDC Social Group site? I want to post (so badly) on that website, but I'm just too angry to dignify it in any way. I also suggest that we remove the current birth stories from public view and put them in our social group. Personally, I haven't visited our group more than just to join it, but if anything is a catalyst, this is. Obviously, yes, this is a public forum, and I suppose it's not too crazy to know that some predator (and coward) is taking our stories for her own. Isn't there a copyright infringement or something? Don't we need permission to quote others, even if it is on a public forum? Wish I was a lawyer.

post #98 of 242

I love waking up to new babies born during the night- congrats Capretta (and to others of you who have had your baby but just haven't posted yet). 

 

Steph- that does sound like a tricky place to be right now, but it sounds like during the course of your pregnancy you have been very intentional and thoughtful, and we are all confident that you will make a decision that works best for you and that you are truly comfortable with.  Personally, and I want to clarify that I do not know that is best for YOU, but I'm generally extremely hands-off in terms of inductions/interventions, and would always lean towards trusting my body and baby.  I know there are logistical things for you to consider (travel schedules), but I'd also be wary about interveneing for the sake of DS's school schedule or DH's anxiety.  Yes, those are all very valid concerns, but my personal opinion is that babies should come on their OWN schedule (for example, some OBs schedule inductions for their own travel schedules, which I'm also personally not OK with).   Since you are a second-time mother, it is extremely likely that you're going to go into labor *on your own* very shortly (you're statistically less likely to carry longer), and that the baby will be born before 41 weeks, regardless.  Also, have/are you still doing fetal kick counts?  You mentioned being a little uncomfortable waiting until next week for a NST, but there are other things you can do now and in the meantime to get peace of mind.  But again, I want to emphasize that YOU know what is best for YOU and your family, and also, good for you for approaching this as a family and truly working to make an informed and educated decision (and fairly balancing the risks/benefits of each).  One last question though... do you think there could be other options besides just inducing Thursday or next Thursday? 

 

Speaking of natural induction methods... one of my co-workers shared with me an induction method that worked when she was the lamaze coach for her cousin.  She is Haitian, and said that this method is very common.  She said to boil peanuts, shells and all, and then drink the water like a tea.  My EDD isn't until next Tuesday, but if it is looking like we have a late bloomer, than I might try that (seems a little easier than running a marathon to induce labor!). 

 

AFM, today is the last day going to the office for work!  We're leaving for our prenatal at 3pm too, which is good.  I did GBS swab last week, so I'll get results today.  I'm fighting off a cold right now, which sucks.  My nose is a faucet, and I hate how raw it gets from these newspaper-like tissues they have at work.  Boo. 

post #99 of 242

Actually, what the "author" on that website did was copyright infringement, if I understand correctly:

 

http://mason.gmu.edu/~montecin/copyright-internet.htm

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Originally Posted by RosemaryS-F View Post

I wonder: should we start posting our birth stories just on our DDC Social Group site? I want to post (so badly) on that website, but I'm just too angry to dignify it in any way. I also suggest that we remove the current birth stories from public view and put them in our social group. Personally, I haven't visited our group more than just to join it, but if anything is a catalyst, this is. Obviously, yes, this is a public forum, and I suppose it's not too crazy to know that some predator (and coward) is taking our stories for her own. Isn't there a copyright infringement or something? Don't we need permission to quote others, even if it is on a public forum? Wish I was a lawyer.


I don't have a problem moving the stories to the social group, but everyone should be aware that anyone can read the social group and copy/paste from there too. Unfortunately, it won't stop people from doing that if that's what they want to do.

 

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