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Flu Shot + Formula Marketing at the O.B. office

post #1 of 34
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I have found the perfect midwife. I am a nurse and work with her frequently and know the type of deliveries that she does. However the nurses in the office are  hassling me about receiving a flu shot and then gave me some promotion for a shopping spree sponsored by Enfamil. When I politley declined I was given quite an eye roll. Have you all received this type of formula marketing too?

post #2 of 34

The flu shot wouldn't bother me, I'll be getting mine next week.  However, the formula would bug me.  Not enough to leave if the midwife is awesome though.

post #3 of 34

The formula marketing would definitely bother me, but I'm sure that it's out of her control.  It's probably the clinic manager and OBs that she works with that does that.

 

I also plan to get my flu shot-- I am also a nurse and work in public health, so I know the value of vaccines and see the results when people don't get them.  It does make me a little sad when I hear of nurses refusing flu shots or other health related things (like not breastfeeding, smoking, being over weight, etc).  I always feel that as nurses, we should be excellent role models for health.

post #4 of 34

I would have given her an eyeroll right back. Definately no Flu shot for me. My OB discussed it with me and made it sound like I was practically ending my baby's life by declining. We don't get the shot in this house.

post #5 of 34

I never get flu shots after a bad reaction (stuck on a couch with a really annoying cold) to one ten years ago. After discussing with my MW I decided not to get one again, but for my DH to get one. I'm not against vaccines in general, but I think the risk (in my case) of an adverse reaction is higher than my risk of the flu.

post #6 of 34

my last pregnancy (ended at 10 weeks) while OB hunting i had a pre-visit consult with a nurse and told her i wouldnt be getting to flu shot durring pregnancy....she flipped out! i was shocked! she said "my tax dollars will have to pay for the special needs child you will be birthing if you dont get a flu shot"  i sat silent untill she was done (stunned realy) and said calmly "ill let the doctor decide that" and said he was fine with my decision not to get one.   people are crazy!!

post #7 of 34

I have been a nurse for 6 1/2 years now and I am being forced to get a flu shot this year. I will be 19 weeks pregnant once the deadline hits. I say forced, but I do have a choice....I can get the shot and keep my job which I have worked at for 7 years OR I can refuse the shot and get fired. I tried talking to my OB about it and they seem to follow the rest of the propaganda thinking that pregnant women need this in order to survive the pregnancy. I am not getting hounded at visits for formula or the shot though. They are very pro-breastfeeding and respect our choice not to get the shot. They recommend it if we ask, but they don't push it.

I have no idea what I am going to do. I have only received the shot one time (last year) but I have no interest in getting one now while I am growing a child. According to the vaccine insert, the shot has not been tested for efficacy or safety in pregnant and breastfeeding women. It is also a class C drug. I have no interest in losing my job either. I love what I do and where I work.


Edited by rik8144 - 10/20/11 at 9:45am
post #8 of 34

rik- ummmm..... this might unethical but is there a nurse that might feel the same way you do that can administer it for you but not really give it to you. I'm sorry that you are stuck in this rough spot.

post #9 of 34

My midwife encourages the shot but isn't being pushy about it at all. The clinic "welcome to being pregnant" class pushed it way more. I've never gotten one before in my life and I'm thinking I will get one this year, but I moreso want my DH's entire work office to get one ... those people are always sick, refuse to stay home while they're contagious, and inevitably DH brings home all kinds of nasty bugs for me to enjoy. Not pleased.

 

One of the formula companies sponsors some things (mama gear and informational materials, at least) so we get bags of stuff periodically and will get a backpack with a bunch of baby things at delivery. No one seems to be pushing the formula itself. So I'm OK with that.

post #10 of 34

I guess I'm DDCC, but a month or so ago I received a container of enfamil newborn formula in the mail.  I'm on my state's medicaid for this pregnancy so I think that's how they found me... or maybe because I gave my address to a maternity clothing store?  That's a creepy thought.  Let's say it was because of the medicaid.  Anyway, I've gotten several formula pamphlets in the mail, but getting the actual container made me feel so icked out.  And now I'm unsure what to do with the darn thing.  I think I should drop it off at a women's shelter, but of all the women who should be educated on the health and economical benefits of breastfeeding...  It could definitely help a mama who can't breastfeed but it feels weird to propagate enfamil. greensad.gif

post #11 of 34

If it is a class C drug, how can they force that on you:

 

Animal reproduction studies have shown an adverse effect on the fetus and there are no adequate and well-controlled studies in humans, but potential benefits may warrant use of the drug in pregnant women despite potential risks.

post #12 of 34

It looks like there are some flu vaccines that are category B so if you have to get one, make sure it is one of these:

 

FDA has classified FluLaval, Fluarix (GlaxoSmithKline Biologicals) and Agriflu (Novartis Vaccines and Diagnostics Limited) influenza vaccines as “Pregnancy Category B” medications, indicating that animal reproduction studies have not demonstrated a fetal risk, but there are no controlled studies in pregnant women; all other influenza vaccines are classified as “Pregnancy Category C” medications, indicating that adequate animal reproduction studies have not been conducted.

post #13 of 34
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Originally Posted by adoremybabe View Post

rik- ummmm..... this might unethical but is there a nurse that might feel the same way you do that can administer it for you but not really give it to you. I'm sorry that you are stuck in this rough spot.



I could never do that. I don't want to risk my job like that. I would end up being fired and it just isn't worth it.

post #14 of 34
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It looks like there are some flu vaccines that are category B so if you have to get one, make sure it is one of these:

 

FDA has classified FluLaval, Fluarix (GlaxoSmithKline Biologicals) and Agriflu (Novartis Vaccines and Diagnostics Limited) influenza vaccines as “Pregnancy Category B” medications, indicating that animal reproduction studies have not demonstrated a fetal risk, but there are no controlled studies in pregnant women; all other influenza vaccines are classified as “Pregnancy Category C” medications, indicating that adequate animal reproduction studies have not been conducted.



Thanks for the list! I know Walgreen (local pharmacy) carries the 'thimerisol free' version. I will call and see if they offer one on the list. I am waiting until the last day to get it so I can be as far along as possible.

post #15 of 34

Definitely no flu shot for me and formula advertising in general infuriates me.

post #16 of 34
DDCC - No, no formula marketing. I haven't seen any for flu shots, either. I can't get one because I get IV's of antibodies monthly, and because of that, don't need a shot anyways. As far as the formula, the doctors deliver at a Baby Friendly hospital. Baby Friendly hospitals really encourage breastfeeding, and don't encourage formula. They do have some formula stuff in the office, but it is set off to the side and not promoted. I haven't been offered anything from a formula company.
post #17 of 34

If an ob/gyn gave me formula propaganda they would no longer be my doctor and I would let them know that they are supporting the violation of WHO code.

I was ready to be offered a flu shot but I haven't been. As a nursing mom and a preggo mom, there's no way I'd take a drug that was a class C.

post #18 of 34

I see a group of home birth midwives. There's not any formula propaganda or pressuring for flu vaccines.  They're about as Earthy and natural as you can get (while being thoroughly informed) <3

post #19 of 34
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I see a group of home birth midwives. There's not any formula propaganda or pressuring for flu vaccines.  They're about as Earthy and natural as you can get (while being thoroughly informed) <3



Me too and I'm soooooo glad for it.

post #20 of 34
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Originally Posted by cameragirl View Post

DDCC - No, no formula marketing. I haven't seen any for flu shots, either. I can't get one because I get IV's of antibodies monthly, and because of that, don't need a shot anyways. As far as the formula, the doctors deliver at a Baby Friendly hospital. Baby Friendly hospitals really encourage breastfeeding, and don't encourage formula. They do have some formula stuff in the office, but it is set off to the side and not promoted. I haven't been offered anything from a formula company.


I gave birth to my son at a Baby Friendly Hospital and had formula pushed on me because he was jaundice.  They even gave me free formula to take home (I declined).  I just wanted to get out of the hospital so I gave in.  Our breastfeeding relationship really never took off.  They had a bad Lactation consultant sent to me, referred me to a horrible lactation consultant, and no one ever listened to me.  So not all Baby Friendly hospitals are as pro breastfeeding as they say.

 

Otherwise, I hope my OB doesn't push the flu shot on me.  If she does I can truthfully say I'm allergic to eggs and she hopefully will back off then.  It's not a severe allergy, but whatever gets them to stop.  The first time I got a flu shot I developed pneumonia after a bad case of the flu.  The second time nothing happened, but I generally don't get the flu anyways.

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