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bouncing on the breast/shallow latch in newborn
post #2 of 5
10/20/11 at 8:58am
I had to block feed on the other side and pump on that side just enough to reduce discomfort. That lowered the supply on that side so it's not too engorged for db to latch. Sometimes he still refuses that breast and I have to pump it.
I think in his case it was originally due to a bruise on that ear from delivery, which led to engorgement which led to a harder time latching, forceful letdown, and further refusal. Super frustrating.
Good luck.
I think in his case it was originally due to a bruise on that ear from delivery, which led to engorgement which led to a harder time latching, forceful letdown, and further refusal. Super frustrating.
Good luck.
post #3 of 5
10/20/11 at 10:15am
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I have a newborn who is 3 weeks + 3 days old and he does the bouncing thing sometimes too, when my nipple is soft. It's really frustrating and it's always at night when I want to sleep desperately like you do! In our case this usually follows an episode of cluster nursing where he is unable to settle. As you mentioned, iswaddling does help as he gets really worked up with hands and feet going like crazy. In our case I think there is a link between these episodes of cluster nursing and not settling with my occasional desire for dark chocolate in the late afternoon...but it's such a guessing game to figure out what causes these things!!
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Anyway, two things that have helped me when he doesn't want to nurse side lying (or I want him to get a better latch) are starting out sitting up with him and positioning him well using the crossover or cross cradle hold, then once that is established I carefully move him into the side lying position. Also I have found that I can get a better latch and he is happier with the softer nipple when I latch him on in the side lying position with me propped up on my elbow. This may not be a good idea though if there is going to be a big let down from an engorged breast, to have gravity as another factor. Just letting you know what has worked here, although I know all babies are different and yours may be doing this for much different reasons that mine has. Latching has been something I have paid a great deal of attention to as I have big nipples and latching was a real issue for mine when he was brand new, so much so that he had a pretty drastic weight loss and I had to nurse/pump/bottle feed him expressed milk every few hours for a week and a half until he was strong enough to get the calories directly from me.
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Also when I am really engorged and milk is leaking everywhere I grab a big flat cloth diaper (have a whole stack of them I go through in about 3 days!) and press it to my chest on the other side before we even start, and I have one underneath the other side and his head. If I am feeling engorged I will hand express briefly into a cloth just so it isn't as intense for him when he latches on.
post #4 of 5
10/20/11 at 1:59pm
My son latched much better in the early months if he had motion/movement, so I'd stand and sway or bounce, sometimes he did better upright, others in a cradle hold.
 I then read in Dr. Sear's book that it helps some babies to 'organize' their sucking muscles. It may be difficult to do at night but may be worth a try for daytime feedings. I'm glad your daughter is latching well on your one nipple, that's very good news. Hang in there.
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THANK YOU!!! You mamas are so very wonderful!Â
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katherineg - that sounds super frustrating... I hope it evens out for you so you don't have to keep dealing with engorgement!
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Gracecody, your trick with the flat diaper to sop up leaking breastmilk has been a lifesaver... I was so frustrated with my breast pads and sleeping clothes getting cold and soggy overnight! The cross-cradle hold is what one of my midwives suggested on her postpartum visit last week and it sometimes helps too.
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Asiago, yes! Your idea of swaying or bouncing is definitely something that works! Two nights ago I also had a vague memory that DS did something similar initially... and what I did (back then) was move the rest of his body in a Dr. Harvey Karp "jiggling" motion and that distracted him enough to latch on without all the bouncing. Seems to work for DD as well!
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Last night and today have been minimally problematic. She still does the "bouncing"... I guess it is a type of rooting, but dramatic, like a woodpecker! This morning the "bad" breast was a bit sore, like it had bruising, I guess because she didn't drain it fully in the middle of the night? But that went away midday.
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Overall between swaddling and movement for the latch-on moment, we seem to have mostly overcome the problem... but I'll keep you posted if she starts to refuse again.
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