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How are everyone's relationships?

post #1 of 13
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Since I'm a FTM and don't know, my doula warned me that the last few weeks could be really tough on my relationships, especially with DH.  And boy was she right.  I'm feeling so withdrawn and lonely lately.  My DH has been a darling throughout this whole thing on all the non-emotional issues.  Because of my SPD, I've been limited with what I can do and he has more than picked up the slack without complaint.  But while I feel like I've been extremely outwardly grateful to him for everything he's done, I get no acknowledgement from him for what I'm going through, no thanks for the hardship and pain I'm suffering to bring our child into the world.  I just feel alone and unappreciated.  I feel like he takes care of his "duties" and then is done.  And then I feel selfish because it's not just about me, it's about DH and baby too, but I can't help how I feel.  I hope this goes away when baby is born, because right now I'm feeling really sad and resentful.  And that doesn't make me feel ready to be a loving and nurturing mother!

 

Is anyone else going through anything similar?  Or went through anything similar in previous pregnancies?  I think it would help if I could be reassured that it's normal and will likely pass.

post #2 of 13

I get the same way sometimes, also a FTM... And newly married. Our wedding was a week away when I found out I was pregnant. LOL

 

While DH is awesome and as understanding as he can be, I guess... Sometimes I feel like he doesn't TRY to understand. He shrugs it off as whining and as an excuse to be lazy so he has to do everything.

 

I have pregnancy-induced carpel tunnel, so literally everything hurts my hands. Cleaning, cooking, writing, everything. He always gets frustrated with me if he comes home from work and I haven't done anything because he works a LOT and then has to come home and clean. He makes me feel really guilty for not doing anything.

 

I feel like he doesn't "get" it. But how could he, you know? I just tell him to bear with me these last few weeks. I feel like it has strained our relationship a little bit, but I try my hardest to keep us on good terms and to not argue.

 

Everything will work out for both of us, I'm sure. This is just the biggest life change a person can go through, toss in the hormones, and it's bound to be a little "off" at times.

post #3 of 13

Yeah, DH and I were just talking this morning about how lousy things have felt between us lately.  Not because we're mad or frustrated with each other, but just that life in general makes it really hard for us to spend quality time together.  I am ginormous and when our youngest is in bed with me, there's not much room left for DH.  I can't move like i want to, which presents all sorts of problems, from housework slack to intimacy awkwardness, which i'm sure you all are feeling as well.  Then we don't have any extra money to do anything ice for ourselves alone or with the kids, and there's not really anyone to watch them either.  

 

I can say the first baby presents some major overhauls on a partnership, whether it's your first, period, or your first together.  Our first year together with our baby (i had my two older kids when i met DH) was hard, I won't pretend it wasn't.  But we also had a slew of other problems at that time which were making us both crazy.

 

Lots of adjustments and good communication will be essential!  

 

Re: the lack of acknowledgement for what you're going thru....well, I sort of have the same thing here.  DH will jump thru hoops to "help me nest", as he calls it, but I've learned that talking at length about physical pains and problems I have from the pregnancy make him feel useless and guilty, cause he can't fix it and he can't help me with it either.  If I ask specifically for him to, say, rub my back--he'll do it happily, cause it's something tangible he can "fix".  There's a lot of non-verbal communication going on between us as well, and I have to be attuned to that as well.  

 

Anyway, yes, definitely normal--and make sure he knows that as well!  winky.gif

post #4 of 13

Totally normal- I feel the same way, but I will also say, like Krystal mentioned, that parenthood in general is such a change.  The transition into parenthood (the first few months-year) are HARD on a relationship.  It's all rainbows and butterflies at first, but it's totally normal to have a really hard time figuring out your new normal with a baby.  You will definitely need to keep communication lines open (easier said than done when you're both exhausted) and you may have a hard time relating to each other (especially if you're staying at home and he's working.  But even still, mothers are usually more responsible for baby care- co-parenting attempts are great but it just can't be equal).  It changed mine and DH's relationship so dramatically- we are 2.5 years in and we are happily married but WOW is it different from how things were before kids.  We have different roles now, different expectations, and we both prioritize DS, of course, which I think should be the case for the first few years (babies/toddlers have so many physical/emotional/mental needs).  

 

I don't mean to be negative.  And maybe now is a good time to "practice" communicating about expectations and disappointments.  I will also say that feeling sad/resentful will NOT affect your ability to be a good mother.  Not at all.  This is all very normal, though, and unfortunately I can't say with certainty that it will get easier anytime soon.  Just try to remember to be kind to one another, and remember that you can't always relate to your partner 100% so there's bound to be some friction.  Sometimes a lot of friction.  Babies change everything, and change is often very, very hard.  But don't feel lonely- we all go through this and I am pleased to say that while the transition into parenthood was EXTREMELY difficult for DH and I, we are still very happily married.  We love each other differently, and that's okay.  Like I said, we have different roles now.  There are still days of serious frustration- I think unless you have a bottomless pit of patience that it's normal.  Like Krystal said- adjust and communicate.  

One book that I really liked in this topic was John Gottman's "Baby Makes Three".  He's the most respected marriage and family psychologist in the world, and it was really a great book.  Maybe you can pick it up from the library for a little end-of-pregnancy reading.  

post #5 of 13
I think one of the few perks of dh working out of town is that we are not having problems like this. If I don't clean, he's not coming home anyway, so there is no resentment on either side. I also can't have any expectation of help... It's all up to me. Which I am used to as I was a single mom for years. Also, he doesn't see how I feel icky on a daily basis, so there isn't much room for me to feel like he doesn't get it.

When he is home on the weekends, he is great. But, in my opinion, anyone can be great two days a week! So I guess it's less pressure on both of us.

I'm sure the whole thing sounds odd, but it's my reality right now. What I'm afraid of is me resenting him for not being here when the baby is born. I'm afraid I will be very overwhelmed and be irritated that he is off by himself, watching movies and eating quiet dinners, probably in a fancy hotel, while I am barely able to fix myself lunch while taking care of four kids.
post #6 of 13
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Originally Posted by TalkToMeNow View Post

I think one of the few perks of dh working out of town is that we are not having problems like this. If I don't clean, he's not coming home anyway, so there is no resentment on either side. I also can't have any expectation of help... It's all up to me. Which I am used to as I was a single mom for years. Also, he doesn't see how I feel icky on a daily basis, so there isn't much room for me to feel like he doesn't get it.
When he is home on the weekends, he is great. But, in my opinion, anyone can be great two days a week! So I guess it's less pressure on both of us.
I'm sure the whole thing sounds odd, but it's my reality right now. What I'm afraid of is me resenting him for not being here when the baby is born. I'm afraid I will be very overwhelmed and be irritated that he is off by himself, watching movies and eating quiet dinners, probably in a fancy hotel, while I am barely able to fix myself lunch while taking care of four kids.


That actually doesn't sound weird at all.  I'm usually in a much better mood when DH is at work.  I resent the heck out of him when he comes home and pretty much ignores me.  I've been cooped up all day, alone, and I just want some company!  I know that he needs time to unwind from a stressful job, but still.  I know it sounds weird, but I'm counting on being more mobile after baby is born.  Right now I'm in so much pain that I often find myself subconsciously under hydrating, because walking down the hallway to the bathroom can be excruciating sometimes.  So I'm hoping that once baby is born, I'll be able to rely more on myself and not feel completely helpless.

 

post #7 of 13

This pregnancy has been the best one as far as our relationship goes.  With my first, I was having terrible sciatica pain, and DH was having back pain so bad he couldn't get up in the morning to go to work or school.  I was angry and jealous, and I felt like he was just trying to one-up me the whole time, because he had no sympathy for me.  Of course I had no sympathy for him either, until he got an x-ray done and we learned he had a slipped disk.

 

During my second pregnancy we were both struggling with depression, we were trying to work opposite shifts from each other, and we were both horribly horribly sleep deprived.  It wasn't pretty.  At all.

 

So even though we are tired, and stressed out about money, we aren't taking it out on each other, and we are being sympathetic to the hard things we are each dealing with right now.  It's really nice to not be at each other's throats, and to assume the best intentions for once.

post #8 of 13

Ergh... just wait until you're up all night feeding and changing and your dh snores on. It is just really hard that first time around. It will be really hard for either of you to identify with the others' situation. Just know you'll look back and it will make sense! Cut the guy some slack... he has no idea what is going on here and probably doesn't even truly understand yet that a person is coming out of this. It is such a hard concept for men, I think. And you will feel so much better looking back when you have a better idea the sacrifices he's making for you and what they cost him. Please don't be mad at me for saying that... just the voice of bad experience!

 

All you have is each other, so make sure you make good time for your relationship and continue to nurture what the two of you have that created this baby! I know it is hard! But it's worth it. He will be your best ally and will treasure you and want to take care of you if you can find it in yourself to cheer him on, be positive (even though you hurt) and smile at him. It may not seem fair (it's not) but you don't want to do this alone- so you have to do what you have to do to keep him fighting the battles alongside with you.

post #9 of 13
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Please don't be mad at me for saying that... just the voice of bad experience!

 



Of course I won't be mad!  I appreciate learning from others' experiences, especially when it's delivered in a thoughtful, helpful way, like yours.  

 

After the birth, we'll see, maybe I'm being naive, but I actually think DH will be very helpful with late night diaper changes and doing baby "activities."  He's just sometimes really bad at dealing with my emotional stuff.  He's a classic male in that he wants to see a problem and fix it, and still, after 10 years together, doesn't get that sometimes listening to me whine and sympathizing is "fixing it."  Let's hope I don't get bad PPD!  I'm at a pretty high risk for it, so we'll see.

post #10 of 13

DH and I went through our rough patch during my 2nd trimester. I'm so glad we got that out of the way, repaired things, built up better communication, and feel more in tune with each other's needs in preparation for the baby. My parents' parenting roles were so completely uneven that I've always had this immense fear that I'd be forced into that same role of doing like 99% of the work, but thankfully DH isn't that type of person when it comes to parenting. I know that now after having a heart-to-heart with him. I'm lucky in the way that since he works third shift, I probably will be able to get a lot more sleep since he is home 4 nights of the week and able to do anything the baby needs at night if I have pumped milk for him to feed her with. I'm sure things won't work out as ideally as it all sounds in theory, but I feel calmer going into parenthood as a team at least.

 

I personally feel it's a good idea to take the pre-emptive strike position before children come along and discuss any and everything about your feelings and communication style as a couple. If we worked everything out after the baby came, I think we'd be in a really bad place and I'd be freaking out. I know it's easier said than done, though, if a couple isn't able to talk to each other in a constructive way about everything.

post #11 of 13

Argh... this topic makes me so tired.  I put so much energy, and really, all of ME into raising my kids, being there for them, taking care of their needs, etc. that I just wish my relationship with dh would float on its own without me having to put work into it!  rolleyes.gif  But relationships don't work that way and when you don't put any work into them for a long time they start to deteriorate.  So dh and I hit the "seven year slump" two summers ago when ds was about 6 months old.  Dh was talking like he was going to leave, that divorce was a real option, and I was hit over the head like this was coming out of the blue.  It wasn't that he didn't love me, it wasn't that he didn't want to be in the relationship, he just thought that I no longer loved him.  He thought all my love was going to the kids and I just didn't have any left to give him.  We hadn't had sex in a long time- in fact not since ds was born, I don't think.  Talking with some of my other girl friends it seemed to me like the lack of physical intimacy led dh to believe these things more than anything else.  Whereas, I'm thinking I'm up all night with a baby and home all day with two kids.  I'm freaking exhausted.  Sex is the last thing on my mind when I have 2 minutes of free time.  But the problem was, I ended up spending a lot more of my free time crying about the fact that dh felt he needed to go to therapy to work this all out and could not look me in the eye and tell me that leaving had not crossed his mind.  It scared the hell out of me. 

 

The story ends well, of course (as we are obviously expecting another child so we got around to the sex eventually  lol.gif), but the moral is that figuring out how to maintain all the relationships in the family unit is essential.  I can't say that I'm an expert by any means, but a lot of it has to do with unspoken expectations.  It's really easy to say that you're going to keep the lines of communication open and that you're going to discuss everything at length, but at 3am when you're up again with the baby and you haven't slept in months, and all you desperately want is for your partner to freaking understand just how exhausted you are and that sometimes even kissing is asking too much of you. You might not even be able to articulate these feelings- they may just envelope you and make you feel desperate and crazy.  Meanwhile your dh just wants a goodnight kiss.  It can be so hard.  When it gets to that point we as mothers have to ask for help from others- friends, family, neighbors, mother's helpers, etc. so that we can recharge and fill our cups back up or else there really is nothing left.  I'm slowly getting better at this, but it takes practice and it takes forming a community that you can rely on.  Every mother needs help sometimes.  We are not super human.  We have limits. 

 

So this pregnancy has just sort of gone by.  Dh does what he does and I do what I do and hopefully we have enough of a routine down that our expectations are well established.  But I will have to make much more of a concerted effort to get breaks and meet MY needs so that I have enough energy to meet dh's needs as well.  I know it's going to be hard.

post #12 of 13
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Argh... this topic makes me so tired.  I put so much energy, and really, all of ME into raising my kids, being there for them, taking care of their needs, etc. that I just wish my relationship with dh would float on its own without me having to put work into it!  rolleyes.gif  But relationships don't work that way and when you don't put any work into them for a long time they start to deteriorate.  So dh and I hit the "seven year slump" two summers ago when ds was about 6 months old.  Dh was talking like he was going to leave, that divorce was a real option, and I was hit over the head like this was coming out of the blue.  It wasn't that he didn't love me, it wasn't that he didn't want to be in the relationship, he just thought that I no longer loved him.  He thought all my love was going to the kids and I just didn't have any left to give him.  We hadn't had sex in a long time- in fact not since ds was born, I don't think.  Talking with some of my other girl friends it seemed to me like the lack of physical intimacy led dh to believe these things more than anything else.  Whereas, I'm thinking I'm up all night with a baby and home all day with two kids.  I'm freaking exhausted.  Sex is the last thing on my mind when I have 2 minutes of free time.  But the problem was, I ended up spending a lot more of my free time crying about the fact that dh felt he needed to go to therapy to work this all out and could not look me in the eye and tell me that leaving had not crossed his mind.  It scared the hell out of me. 

 

The story ends well, of course (as we are obviously expecting another child so we got around to the sex eventually  lol.gif), but the moral is that figuring out how to maintain all the relationships in the family unit is essential.  I can't say that I'm an expert by any means, but a lot of it has to do with unspoken expectations.  It's really easy to say that you're going to keep the lines of communication open and that you're going to discuss everything at length, but at 3am when you're up again with the baby and you haven't slept in months, and all you desperately want is for your partner to freaking understand just how exhausted you are and that sometimes even kissing is asking too much of you. You might not even be able to articulate these feelings- they may just envelope you and make you feel desperate and crazy.  Meanwhile your dh just wants a goodnight kiss.  It can be so hard.  When it gets to that point we as mothers have to ask for help from others- friends, family, neighbors, mother's helpers, etc. so that we can recharge and fill our cups back up or else there really is nothing left.  I'm slowly getting better at this, but it takes practice and it takes forming a community that you can rely on.  Every mother needs help sometimes.  We are not super human.  We have limits. 

 

So this pregnancy has just sort of gone by.  Dh does what he does and I do what I do and hopefully we have enough of a routine down that our expectations are well established.  But I will have to make much more of a concerted effort to get breaks and meet MY needs so that I have enough energy to meet dh's needs as well.  I know it's going to be hard.

 

 

YES. 

I'm sorry that you and DH got to such a breaking point.  That must have been really scary, but obviously I'm so glad you worked it out.  

 

You're right though- men need physical touch and don't understand why we, as mothers, aren't ABLE to give it to them.  At least not willingly ;-)  It's so hard sometimes just to want to kiss my husband.  It's not that I don't love him or find him attractive, I've just been giving so much love and affection to my son all day long that I want to be left alone.  

It sounds awful doesn't it?  I'm sure I would have never thought as a FTM that I would ever, EVER write those words.  But it happens.  It happens to almost everyone (if not everyone).  DH and I had talked about how we were such a great team and we had game plans in place for different scenarios and such, we thought we could definitely avoid all the problems we saw with our (again, happily married but extremely frustrated) friends who had new babies.  We could do better than them!  We could avoid communication issues and problems with intimacy!  We talked about all the ways parenting could change our relationship (ha, how little did we know) and we were READY to take on those challenges. 

Yeah, and then at 6 weeks post-partum we were at our wit's end and the hard talks started.  They haven't stopped since.  We lose our tempers, we don't give enough affection, we get frustrated at not having enough "me" time or enough "couple" time.  We want different things at different times (I want intimacy when he is tired, he wants intimacy when I am tired), we have different expectations and standards, we see things differently.  Now, we are happily married and we definitely don't fight often, but when it happens it is DEEP issues (mostly we just cannot see the other's point of view, which we are all seeing now as we are pregnant, like the OP mentioned, and our DH's can't understand that experience).  Also, my DH and I are as alike as they come, and we love each other deeply and are really great communicators, but at the end of the day we are not the same person.  It's just how it is.  And having a child to care for, who takes your attention, who is the center of your world REALLY messes things up.  Like I said, it's normal.  But it's also necessary to communicate in as much as we possibly can, and unfortunately (especially during the first few months) finding time to do that is nearly impossible.  Unless you want to try to have a conversation over a screaming child while changing a diaper, or while your partner is nodding off from exhaustion. eyesroll.gif

 

All that to say, it's easier said than done. 

I know that even as "prepared" as we are by having had a child already, we are still in for it when baby #2 comes.  The newborn phase (and teething, and illness, and sleep issues, and....) is just so draining and tiring and tough to handle.  I know we won't be able to get through it without becoming frustrated with one another and feeling like we are not meeting each others' needs.  But that's okay- I also know we'll get through it.  We're committed to each other and we love each other.  

 

So not to say that any FTMs are naive to try to prepare for the post-partum period.  I'm certainly not saying that you can't have those talks and try to understand how you each might deal with certain situations.  It's certainly helpful to have a baseline to work from and refer back to, but keep in mind that it is going to be completely different than you can EVER imagine :-)  It's do-able though.  You just have to roll with the punches and try your hardest to be flexible, be kind, and be present with one another.  I know it might seem scary but honestly, it's just that change is hard.  You'll learn a lot about your partner (good and bad, even) as parents and at the end of the day, that's a really good thing.  
 

 

post #13 of 13

All 3 of my full term pregnancies have been extremely different from each other as far as how DH and I were doing in our relationship. With DS, we weren't yet living together and it was a struggle to get to see him one day of the week(maybe 3-5 hours if I was lucky) and it was on his terms. This was because of an addiction problem and he didn't want me to know he was using. Of course, I knew, but I didn't know what to do. This lack of contact created the kind of strain on our relationship that we didn't need with a new baby. We moved in together when he was 4 months old and looking back now, it was hell. The fighting(not in front of DS, thank goodness), the using, the threats to leave one another.......Things changed significantly when we got clean.

 

I got pregnant with DD 5 months after we got clean and we were overjoyed. We moved when I was almost 6 months pregnant. He went from working 6 hour days and me seeing him alot to working 10 hour days and hardly seeing him and our relationship strained yet again. Things got better for a while after DD came, because it seemed the new life in our home breathed new life into our love. Being a parent to a new baby is HARD on relationships. When you feel like you're not getting enough help and are just ACHING to get some help from DH, but you can't communicate that because you have a screaming baby in your ear, alot of people just give up on communication. It seems easier to "shush shush" the baby and be self sufficient. Having some good foundations in communication skills with your partner are so fundamental in successful parenting, it's not even funny. DH and I are prime examples. After a year, we started ignoring each other and saw each other maybe an hour or two a day, not counting the couple hours we were sleeping together(again, not talking). Communicate your needs and ask what your DH needs from you. It's so important that you guys know what the other needs or they feel unappreciated, like you do, Ablemec.

 

This one is SOOOO different and it seems so strange to me that this pregnancy is so much better with DH, because this baby isn't his. We've never been better and we have communication skills and more compassion for each other and respect. I'm really glad that we were able to work on that stuff before the baby comes. We wouldn't survive having this baby if we hadn't learned so much about each other in the last year.

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