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breastfeeding questions and support

post #1 of 39
Thread Starter 

...just wanted to start a thread as a location for these particular types of questions and offer support to each other.

I breastfed my first to 21 months and going on 4 weeks and 2 days with my pumpkin.

post #2 of 39

We are goin strong at almost six weeks here! Had a few bouts of mastitis (nothing I couldn't treat with herbs) and Im just getting ready to learn how to pump... ugh. all in all, I couldn't imagine not breastfeeding... its the most wonderful thing! 

post #3 of 39

I nursed my first for 2 1/2 years. That seems like a long time right now, because it seems like nursing is all I do! But it changes so much as they get older. Once they are a toddler that you are chasing around...it is nice to be able to sit down with them and nurse and reconnect!

 

I am going strong at four weeks with DD. I have been pumping and storing up for when I go back to work at 12 weeks. Mostly I have been doing this to get relief. She is a great nurser and is gaining weight like a champ. But...I feel like I always want her to 'empty' my breast. by the time she is done nursing, my milk lets down again and I am spraying and she is done.

 

My point is, I LOVE nursing, but I am really tired of leaking. I feel like breastmilk is on EVERYTHING: my sheets, my shirt, DD's clothes, the rocking chair, the couch, my bras. I am using nursing pads but when I am at home I get tired of wearing a bra so I take it off and then leak everywhere!

post #4 of 39

I'm with you, borobaby.  I'm so tired of being damp!  I have an oversupply too, so I go through nursing pads like crazy.

 

I nursed my first until she was 3 years 3 months old, and my second was exactly 3 years.  They both self-weaned.  It will be the same for number three.  I was able to stay home with the other kids, but this time I have to go back to work at a year, so I'm wondering if that will mean she doesn't nurse as long, since I doubt I will pump much for her at that age.  But regardless, she can nurse as long as she likes, especially since this is the last time.

 

Nursing has been going pretty well this time, a bit sore in the beginning, but nothing out of the ordinary.  However, the last few days one nipple has been SUPER sore.  I've been putting lanolin on it, and wearing a breast shell in between feeds, but it still hurts like a !@#$% when she nurses.  Now today the other side is starting to get a bit sore.  Not sure what's going on, but I think maybe her latch isn't very good.  She still gets plenty of milk because of my oversupply, but doesn't latch on very deep, or open her mouth very wide, and she clicks when she nurses and pulls off a lot when I'm letting down.  She mostly ends up just sucking on the nipple rather than taking any amount of breast into her mouth. Have been block feeding to try to reduce my supply and calm the letdown a bit, but not making any difference.  Any ideas?  I'm SO SORE!  It's so hard to get her to open her mouth big enough, she has such a teeny little mouth.

post #5 of 39

I had that problem at first too. My sister suggested "folding" the areola and just shoving it into his mouth, which actually kind of worked to improve his latch. Now he's got the hang of it...

 

BUT with this new tooth development, it is rubbing on my nipples and making me cry. bawling.gif Essentially, he is using my nipple as a teething toy. OWIE!

 

And I am also very tired of being damp, as Robyn puts it. Yes, everything smells like curdled breastmilk and I cannot possibly do laundry fast enough and I have to write a ten-page paper this weekend, so we will continue to smell like mild cheddar until Monday, no doubt. I've heard that the first month is just about day-to-day survival, and I'm beginning to think that's no joke. Erg.
 

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Originally Posted by rareimer View Post

I'm with you, borobaby.  I'm so tired of being damp!  I have an oversupply too, so I go through nursing pads like crazy.

 

I nursed my first until she was 3 years 3 months old, and my second was exactly 3 years.  They both self-weaned.  It will be the same for number three.  I was able to stay home with the other kids, but this time I have to go back to work at a year, so I'm wondering if that will mean she doesn't nurse as long, since I doubt I will pump much for her at that age.  But regardless, she can nurse as long as she likes, especially since this is the last time.

 

Nursing has been going pretty well this time, a bit sore in the beginning, but nothing out of the ordinary.  However, the last few days one nipple has been SUPER sore.  I've been putting lanolin on it, and wearing a breast shell in between feeds, but it still hurts like a !@#$% when she nurses.  Now today the other side is starting to get a bit sore.  Not sure what's going on, but I think maybe her latch isn't very good.  She still gets plenty of milk because of my oversupply, but doesn't latch on very deep, or open her mouth very wide, and she clicks when she nurses and pulls off a lot when I'm letting down.  She mostly ends up just sucking on the nipple rather than taking any amount of breast into her mouth. Have been block feeding to try to reduce my supply and calm the letdown a bit, but not making any difference.  Any ideas?  I'm SO SORE!  It's so hard to get her to open her mouth big enough, she has such a teeny little mouth.



 

post #6 of 39

Another super-soaker here. I go through nursing pads like crazy, and we sleep with a waterproof pad under the sheet and a towel on top!

 

I remember being able to feel let-down with my first, but this time, let-down is kind of painful. Not sharp pains or anything that would suggest thrush or a problem, but more like a muscle spasm type pain. It's kind of annoying. irked.gif

 

I only nursed my first until 18 months (LOL, Mothering is the only place I can say that sentence with the word "only") because he seemed to forget how to latch. For a month, I was in terrible pain and my nipples were shredded. I tried and tried to correct his latch, but after a month I just couldn't take the pain anymore. My breastfeeding goal was 2 years, so I was a little disappointed, but I am still proud that I made it to 18 months. smile.gif I am hoping to make it at least to 2 years this time.

post #7 of 39
I am breastfeeding but I really hate it. I suspect I have D-MER because I feel really irritable and angry right when I start feeding. Ten minutes in, I'm fine...but I really dread the feeling. I've given him a few bottles of EBM and it's amazing how much more bonding/pleasant I feel towards him when I don't have that feeling.

So, if I can get a good freezer stash and respond well to the pump so I'm not on it 24/7, I might try to switch to primarily pumping.

Anyone try LilyPadz? They're supposed to help with leaking without you having to wear a bra...I'm skeptical but would love to go braless sometimes!
post #8 of 39

Hmm. I'm beginning to think this pain is thrush-related.  She doesn't have any white patches in her mouth or on her tongue, so I wasn't thinking that was it, but is it possible for it to be thrush even if she doesn't have the whiteness?  The one nipple is still so sore when she nurses, and in between, even with lanolin and air drying, and now the other one is getting the same way.  I've been super diligent about her latch, and it makes it slightly less agonizing, but still sooooooo painful.  She's also had a yeast diaper rash, which had cleared up but is now coming back despite my efforts.  I think I'll talk to my doc tomorrow about treating for thrush.

post #9 of 39
Thread Starter 

You are describing thrush. I've got thrush in my nipples for the first time with DS2. With my first I never recognised it before it make it's way into the ducts. At that point it felt like a razor slicing from my nipple to my armpit. It was really painful, so I'm glad I caught it much earlier this time. Neither of my sons have had thrush in the mouth. DS2 doesn't have a yeast diaper rash, but DS1 did - and that was the only way it showed up in him. Just because there's no rash or white spots in the mouth doesn't mean it isn't yeast, it just means it's been caught before it was swapped or before the yeast growth got out of control. I took my second dose of diflucan today and nursing is much more comfortable.

 

Originally Posted by rareimer View Post

Hmm. I'm beginning to think this pain is thrush-related.  She doesn't have any white patches in her mouth or on her tongue, so I wasn't thinking that was it, but is it possible for it to be thrush even if she doesn't have the whiteness?  The one nipple is still so sore when she nurses, and in between, even with lanolin and air drying, and now the other one is getting the same way.  I've been super diligent about her latch, and it makes it slightly less agonizing, but still sooooooo painful.  She's also had a yeast diaper rash, which had cleared up but is now coming back despite my efforts.  I think I'll talk to my doc tomorrow about treating for thrush.



 

post #10 of 39
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Originally Posted by rareimer View Post

Hmm. I'm beginning to think this pain is thrush-related.  She doesn't have any white patches in her mouth or on her tongue, so I wasn't thinking that was it, but is it possible for it to be thrush even if she doesn't have the whiteness?  The one nipple is still so sore when she nurses, and in between, even with lanolin and air drying, and now the other one is getting the same way.  I've been super diligent about her latch, and it makes it slightly less agonizing, but still sooooooo painful.  She's also had a yeast diaper rash, which had cleared up but is now coming back despite my efforts.  I think I'll talk to my doc tomorrow about treating for thrush.


If it is thrush, you need more diflucan than you would for a vaginal yeast infection. When I had it they gave me a 7 day supply. I never had trouble again!

I leaked like crazy with my first DD. This time, I can sleep without a bra and wake up dry! I *think* it might be because I'm taking a cal/mag supplement. I've heard it helps with an overactive let down and leaking. Who knows? It's worth a shot anyway.
post #11 of 39

Hi.  I'm new to this board and so glad I found this thread.  I am SO SICK of being damp all the time, too.  I'm so glad I'm not alone.  I breastfed my ODD for 18 months, and loved every minute (or almost, some mastitis etc, but loved the closeness and everything) and I'm really not loving it this time.  Maybe I just need to give it time, but I'm wet all the time, her latch is not so good so my nipples are often sore, and she pulls off at every let down and screams and then falls asleep.  I'm afraid she's not getting enough milk.  I know she probably is because she's gaining weight, but just once I'd like her to stay on the breast for more than 30 seconds.  I know I won't give up breastfeeding, but I can see why some moms do!

post #12 of 39

I just noticed something on my right breast, and a little on my left... the whole area underneath the nipple all the way to my chest there are like red lines, almost like stretch marks? but, they just all of a sudden showed up and the right side is really bad! Has anyone ever heard of this or had this? its kinda ugly. I was adamant about oiling my belly everyday and got through without ANY stretchmarks, but I haven't oiled my breasts hardly at all... yikes, hope I didn't really drop the ball on this one! 

post #13 of 39
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Originally Posted by mamareba View Post

I just noticed something on my right breast, and a little on my left... the whole area underneath the nipple all the way to my chest there are like red lines, almost like stretch marks? but, they just all of a sudden showed up and the right side is really bad! Has anyone ever heard of this or had this? its kinda ugly. I was adamant about oiling my belly everyday and got through without ANY stretchmarks, but I haven't oiled my breasts hardly at all... yikes, hope I didn't really drop the ball on this one! 


I had that with DD1. I don't have them now so I guess they went away? Weird.
post #14 of 39
My baby pops off at (almost) every let-down, too. It's really messy and at this point I've given up on keeping anything milk free. Our bedroom smells really grungy...blah.

On an unexpected positive note, I got my period back today (!) and my supply is much lower, and it seems to be much easier for Sam to handle!

Mixed blessing because I was hoping to be period-free for a while, but I'll take what I can get.
post #15 of 39

Ive looked into this as well and have discovered a few things between kellymom and my LC. Most of our frustrations seemed to be stemming from either milk imbalance, reflux or allergies. The LC helped us weed out allergies (no green or mucousy poop or diaper rash-lower GI issues) and she felt reflux was a common issue among all babies due to the new digestive sytems and that indeed the symptoms are similar to milk imbalance issues. I dont think Chloe is at the point where she needs medication but if it severe enough, I wouldnt wait till she had esphageal damage to give her meds (which I dont think she will need) but I will try other methods to help her first. She was becoming very fussy, not sleeping for longer than 30-60 minutes without waking, runny watery poop, gassy, spitting up and vomiting (sometimes out the nose). Both of which can be reflux or milk imbalance. So I started nursing her on the same breast for several consecutive feedings within a 3 hour period and keeping her upright for at least 30 minutes after a feeding. Guess what? She is doing much better! Sleeping longer, thicker poop, not half as fussy, she is handling my let downs much better, Im not leaking at all anymore. She is still clicking a little at the breast but my LC said at this age (six weeks tomorrow) she wouldnt have a latch on issue. It was her opinion that babies are very smart and its her way of regulating my milk flow with her tongue. I feel much better and we are all sleeping better, at least half the week anyway! I would recommend this style of "block nursing" to anyone with an overproduction: and dont let this confuse you with only feeding the baby every 2-3 hours! Not so! Feed on demand, just stay on the same breast for consecutive feedings in a 2-3 hour window. Good luck!

 

http://kellymom.com/bf/supply/fast-letdown.html

post #16 of 39

Thanks Dlynn- just wanted to say that I appreciate all the info you have shared, including all that you shared with me when I was in the throes of the weight gain and nursing issues I had with Luke. Since Luke is a few weeks behind your baby I am paying attention to all of this for future reference!  Our reflux issues haven't improved, but haven't gotten worse either. It seems to be isolated to night time and in the second half of the night, for whatever reason.

post #17 of 39

Hi everyone, NAK...yay!

 

I fully expected BF to be this amazing and wondrous experience, an instead it has been a total test of my patience and commitment (like everything else during my pregnancy, labor, birth, and recovery!). DS bit me bad on both nipples this first night, but I was so out of it from 36 hours of labor, not to mention the residual effect of the epidural, pitocin, and ibuprofen, that I didn't notice. By the end of the first week I was a bloody mess (with what I called significant cracks, but what an IBCLC later assured me were in fact gaping wounds). I ended up with plugged ducts, mastitis, OS, OALD, and to top it all off, DS has a lip tie. 

 

Just this last week (7 weeks PP) I finally agreed to go on nipple rest for three days, pumped exclusively and baby was fed with bottles. It was the saddest few days of my entire life, but when it was over I had beautifully healed (well, mostly) nipples and BFing no longer hurt. Im still dealing with a somewhat shallow latch and some soreness but feel a million times better. APNO is magic and I highly recommend it for sore, cracked, or thrush nipples...seriously!

 

I was completely clueless.

 

sigh

post #18 of 39
Oh no greensad.gif You are definitely more persistent than I would have been. But, nursing is kinda addictive...I don't like doing it but I REALLY hate missing out on it.

OAL is one of the most frustrating things for me because I often end up with a hungry, screaming baby who is about an inch from my breast but refuses to latch and gets angrier and angrier. Sigh. It's easing up a bit in the last day or so, thankfully, but it really pushes me to my limit, emotionally.
post #19 of 39

Mama2ChicknLil  thank goodness you are healed up. I am glad you took a rest and let that happen. Hopefully it will be smooth sailing from here. I know what it's like to have problems.. my sister had a terrible time with both her kids and it was devastating to her.

post #20 of 39
Thanks for the kind words!!! I never could have imagined I could put up with so much, I think we all have it in us with the proper support system. I definately second the block feeding, it has really helped slow down my OS and Kai only gags a couple times a day now smile.gif
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