A hard one to crack..

[chefhasmyheart]

OK... Sept 25-28 I had BD (my boyfriend and I live in different states so this makes things hard). On the 28 I started my period though I don't believe it was exactly due. It lasted until Oct 4th. We had BD again Oct 16-19th. I spotted a little heavy bleed lightly Oct 21,22,23 even though it definitely wasn't due! It wasn't a typical period. It was more brown and it didn't flow. I just need liners and only when I peed. I'm sorry if this is TMI but I need advice. My period was due Oct 26. Nothing. Yesterday the 27th I had one little spot of pinkish when I wiped but that was it. I don't think I have ever had that. For the past few (5?) days or so I have felt lots of symptoms (or so I think). Sluggish, in bed by 9 or 10 not normal for me, my boobs ache and feel fuller, my back hurts, my stomach gurgles, I have had twinges, lost appetite, nausea, weird tastes in my mouth, giddy excessive happy, also crying for no reason. The list goes on and on. I don't typically have this with a period and my period always comes on Wednesdays. When I have it I typically can go about my everyday life without noticing. I just feel like something is up. I took a CBD this morning and it was a BDN but I am wondering with everything seeming so off if maybe I am testing too early or something. Advice anyone? Thanks! 

Edited by chefhasmyheart - 10/28/11 at 12:55pm

[Jaimee]

Welcome to MDC!!    Let's break this down...

CD 1  9/28

CD 19-22 DTD

CD 24-26 bleeding, spotting, brown

CD 27-32 other pg like symptoms

CD 29 AF due

CD 30 pink spotting

CD 31 HPT- (CBE digi)

CD 32 today

Do you recall when you had fertile cervical fluid- creamy or eggwhite in consistency?  This would help us pinpoint ovulation a bit better.  Without charting or more information it is difficult to know when you ovulated.  Ovulation can vary quite a bit depending on what is happening in your life.  The time between O and AF does not vary by more than 1-2 days typically (this is called your luteal phase).  The average length LP is 12-14 days.  So if we took your expected AF day of CD 29, then we might guess that your O day was somewhere around CD 15-17.  You DTD after this period of time, which then could not result in a pregnancy.  Okay, that's scenario one.

Implantation occurs between 8 and 10 DPO 84% of the time, but can happen as early as 6 DPO or as late as 12 DPO.  Implantation bleeding really is not that common, but if we assumed your bleeding, spotting, etc. was from implantation then we would also assume that ovulation occurred between CD 12-18.  It is possible that you caught the egg the day after ovulation with your BDing on CD 19.  But it combines too unlikely things: catching that egg after O and the earliest implantation possible.  But, possible nonetheless.  If this was the case and O occurred on CD 18, then you would expect AF about 12-14 days later, which would be CD 30-34.  You experienced pink spotting on CD 30, which is not uncommon around the time of expected AF when you're pregnant.  However, this would also mean that you tested at 13 DPO, which would likely give you accurate results, especially with such early implantation.  The CBE digi I believe only requires an hCG level of 25, which I know there is some controversy with that test.  So my first bit of advice to you would be to test again with first of the morning urine with a First Response Early Response test.  If that is also a BFN then I would say you are most likely not pregnant.

You mentioned that your previous period did not seem like a period either, but if you got pregnant last cycle then you would definitely be far enough along to test positive by now.

Okay, if we took the last day you DTD (CD 19) and said the sperm lasted for up to 5 days, the latest you could O would be CD 24.  This lines up with your bleeding.  Ovulation bleeding is not common and is usually just a bit of spotting, but for argument's sake, let's say you had some random O bleeding.  If you did O on CD 24 that would mean you tested on 7 DPO, which is almost certainly too early to test.  If this was the case, then I would suggest waiting at least until 11 DPO to try testing again (that would be Tuesday).  And again, get a different test.

Alternatively, if we considered your bleeding on CD 24-26 to be the start of a new cycle, then it would look like this:

CD 1  10/21

CD 6 pink spotting

CD 7 HPT-

CD 8 today

This would mean that O was still on it's way.  It would also mean that you're experiencing random spotting and irregular cycles.  When this is happening it means your hormones are fluctuating quite a bit and this can cause a lot of secondary symptoms that mimic pregnancy symptoms.  To help unravel the mystery (if you're not currently pregnant) I highly, highly recommend starting to chart your basal body temperature and cervical fluid.  This will allow you to know when you are fertile, when/if you're ovulating, how long your average LP is, when to test, when to expect AF, if you are pregnant, and if there is anything of concern happening with your cycle.  If this interests you, please post for more information.

Good luck and keep us posted!

[chefhasmyheart]

Jaimee - Thank you so much for the insight. I have been going crazy. In your second paragraph you said I probably Oed the 12-18 which falls right in line with the fact we BD the 16-19. So I'm not out yet right? I am going to test again Tuesday morning I suppose. I have had more than one person ask me if I am from some of my actions. I haven't wanted coffee for the past 2 days and I love it. I made a whole put Saturday poured a cup and barely could take a sip. My legs are really sore. The back of my thighs. I haven't done anything either. Plus the other symptoms I have mentioned are still around. I fell nauseous daily. Super tired. Pressure/twinges in my stomach but not PMS related. Now if I can just wait until Tuesday...

[vegemamato]

[Jaimee]

Originally Posted by chefhasmyheart 

In your second paragraph you said I probably Oed the 12-18 which falls right in line with the fact we BD the 16-19. So I'm not out yet right?

I suggested one possibility is that you O'd between CD 12-18 (cycle days 12-18, not to be confused with October 12th-18th), but you didn't DTD until CD 19 (cycle day 19- not to be confused with October 19th).  So in this scenario, you would have to catch that egg within the 24 hours after it was released with that BD session.  FX you did... one shot after O doesn't give you the best chance, but a chance nonetheless!  However your HPT- doesn't help this scenario.  At any rate, waiting until tomorrow to test with FMU and a different test will help determine if the third scenario is correct.  Though, of course, keep in mind that sometimes 11 DPO is too early to test as well and you may need to retest 2-3 days later if AF still hasn't shown.  And then of course, there is still the last scenario where you haven't O'd yet this cycle

You can pick up dollar store tests and test as much as you'd like without breaking the bank!