**~THE ONE THREAD~** October 30 - November 6 - Page 3

[myllissa]

Anyalily: Welcome and I hope the magic 8 ball is right!! Do you chart?  We all are active chart stalkers if so!!  Link us up!!

MamanF:  Keep your chin up.  That drop in temps would make me worry too.  Hoping that your LP lasts a bit longer.  It does seem like you have a short LP as it is by the looks of your old charts. Big hugs to you, mama!

Carlin: Your chart is absolutely amazing.  FX for you!!!  

Stella: I'm so sorry that your DH did the 180 on you.  I can't imagine how you must have felt when he said that.  I second Carlin and am wondering if DH is a bit freaked out at the thought of a pending LO and maybe he'll calm down in a little time.  

AFM: Soooo, I'm sitting waiting in the beginning of my 2ww...bored...OOoH!  I got my new iPhone 4s in the mail last night and have been playing with that!  A shiny new distraction..for a couple of days at least.  

[Stevi]

GratefulStella...   I sort of side with the main caretaker and I noticed in your siggy that your DH is a stay at home dad. I suppose it shouldn't, but that definitely affects my reaction to his pronouncement. Maybe he will change his mind after a little while, or you will have a pleasant "accident."  Either way, my two cents would be to think carefully about what you want, and then have a real discussion with him, listening carefully to his feelings. You might just just change his mind. :)

[MamanFrancaise]

I have a bit of pink spotting. 

I told myself that it wouldn't be a big deal if we didn't conceive on our first cycle. I mean, I just got off the toxic Depo Provera after 4 years - it practically NEVER happens this soon. In fact, it doesn't happen this soon for most women anyway! But then I got my hopes up when I actually saw an ovulatory chart. If THAT was possible then pregnancy was possible.

Then I thought even if we didn't conceive, at least my body is working. But now, I have a totally un-healthy LP. 

So I'm not sure if I should count this as CD1 or wait until it's more that just a little pink on the toilet paper?

/pity party

 

[Belia]

Awwww.... MamanF.     I felt that same way last month when I got that pink tinge on the TP.  I was soooo SURE I was pg that I even threw up in the morning on CD9!!    Then when AF came I was like "WTH?"

And it was only cycle #1.      So I knew it was a long shot, but that didn't stop me from hoping.

And just so you know, I got the pink tinge right before bed so I totally counted my period as starting the NEXT day.  That made my LP look soooooooooo much better!  

[mamaforever]

I REALLY REALLY appreciate all the sticky vibes from you all!  I'm actually feeling much better today... I haven't seen any spotting in about 27 hours and my boobs are extremely sore today.  Yay!  A2E, your post was especially helpful to ease my mind about the BDing during pregnancy!  I just thought I would see spotting like 30 minutes after BDing, not a whole day later.  Thanks for helping me relax a little! (and I say the twinges are from a little bean too ).

Gratefulstella-   Sending lots of hugs to you.  How old is your DD?  I just wonder if your DH is just feeling overwhelmed at the thought of adding another baby right now if your DD is still pretty young.  Maybe he'll be ready in another year or so.  I just hope you are both at peace with whatever decision you make.

MamanF-  Sorry that AF may be on her way.  Start cycle day 1 as the first day you have a red flow.  I hope your LP lengthens soon!  Are you taking anything to help lengthen it?  100 mg of Vit B6 helped increase my LP from 8 days to 11 days.  I also wonder if FF is wrong about your O day.... I say it could have been on CD 12, which would mean your LP isn't too short after all.

I wish I had time to do more personals- just want everyone to know how much I'm feeling the sticky vibes!  Thank you!

[scowgirl]

MamanFrancaise--I have always been told to count the first day of fresh red blood as CD1, so that would be one more day if you count it the same. But I am really sorry about your luteal phase (if the temp drop does hold--the timing also seems correct for an implantation dip/spotting, doesn't it? I am no expert). It's such a frustrating issue to deal with. Thank you for your calming words... I really appreciate it. gozal, Attached2Elijah, and Thebyr, thank you so much too.

airforcegirl--Hoping AF stays away!

gratefulstella--I don't even know what to say, so sorry for your DH's change of heart. I really hope the two of you can come to a decision that works for both of you. 

Stevi--I am glad your cycle seems to be more normal and predictable this time.

A2E--I choose to believe it's a bean too! Fingers crossed!

mamaforever--You are definitely in my thoughts. Away, spotting!!

AFM--I have emailed back and forth with my doctor, and based on my numbers being low in the past, she is going to order a blood progesterone test once I can find the stupid fax number of the lab. So, we are moving forward on that, and MamanFrancaise, could I be moved to graduates? Tests are still positive though lighter than I'd like, spotting is off and on, and we'll see what tomorrow's temp brings. I guess it's better to move forward as if I am pregnant rather than thinking up reasons to be paranoid, because I can't really control what happens anyway. Thank you all so much for your support even though I haven't been here long at all. I can come back if I need to, right?... 

[Attached2Elijah]

mamaforever: So glad I could help... I remember being that scared. It's not a nice place to be. Happy to hear it's gone and you're having some reassuring symptoms!

scowgirl: Glad to hear your Doctor is ordering progesterone... Hopefully that will help and your little bean sticks around and quits scaring you!

MamanF: So sorry you are spotting already... but that's not considered AF just yet. AF is considered full, red flow that you need either a tampon or a pad for. Plus there's always the possibility of implantation spotting. I'm not giving up on you yet!

Boo... my plunge of death has started. I'm more than likely out this month... I guess it could bounce back tomorrow and totally surprise me but it's awful low so I'm not holding out much hope.

[MamanFrancaise]

mamaforever - I'm not taking B6 but I certainly will now! Thanks for the tip. I'm glad you're feeling more positive and yay for 24+ hours of no spotting!

scowgirl - I'll happily move you to graduates! Such a good decision to move forward.

A2E - i considered the possibility of it being implantation spotting - I really wanted to believe that. but the cramps were hard to ignore. Thanks for the positive thoughts though! Sorry about your plunge of death. 

AFM, Thank you guys so much. I'm fine now. I realize there are two significant positives to this. One is the awesomeness of charting. My temp starts dropping and I thought it was because of the temperature in my room? LOL I should really trust my temps. It's so cool it WORKS, you know? And two, I freaking ovulated 54 days after coming off Depo! Dude. Seriously awesome.

I've also decided no more messing with my chart. I un-discarded the temp on CD 14. I am going to trust my body only. I woke up with that temp for a reason... and I will still POAOPK but until I'm 100% certain it's positive, I will not rely on those things (especially the cheapies). The positive I received on CD 11 was a cheapie and was a "half" positive (half the test line was as dark as the control line). Those OPKs are liars.

[gratefulstella]

Thank you ladies for all the  and positive thoughts- Stevi that was another argument he had- He has been out of work since January and although we are getting unemployment (which helps a LOT, besides that I am military so pretty much everything is covered) he did make the point of who would watch our children? My neighbor is a stay at home as of last month and I think she was planning on watching DD if/when DH went back to work (which doesn't look promising considering the unemployment rate out here is almost 10%!!) but he said then what?? What do we do, "hey here is our four yo and btw can you watch our infant baby?"...probably wouldn't work. Besides that sometimes I think he is overwhelmed at home- IDK how...but that is a whole other conversation...

MamaFr-  I totally feel that way- like it would mean the world to me. I did really bring it up to him last night because I feel like I am still weighing my options and trying to see how I want to go about this...and BTW I am sorry for the spotting- I hope it goes away and you will have to let us all know but I am sending positive your way!!

MamaForever- I am not (and don't think I would ever be...unless someone was straight calling me names or the such) offended in anyway by any of you lovely ladies!!! I feel blessed to have so many of you say that you were in the predicament as well before (not that I wish this on anyone) but it helps me feel not so alone. Glad to hear your ladies are hurting and that you haven't had anymore spotting!!! YEA!!!

For all wondering I do think it just might take some time. I know there have been some times where he has said he might want another (I work in a clinic near the lab and there is ALWAYS newbie babies coming in for the blood check- DH came by once and saw a few and said, "Man that sure does make me want another one"...I was like yea- sit here all day, it's enough to drive a woman in her child bearing years mad!!!) but as of right now the answer is NO...I didn't chat with him about it because I really need to get my head straight before I go spouting anything off. But I do know in my heart I want more than one child...I could stop at 2 (even though at one time I wanted 5...that is out of the question unless I marry a millionare...not gonna happen) and I think that is what I have always had in my mind- so I am hoping some good conversations come from this.

I really want to thank all of you lovelies for being so supportive, it is really just what I needed...and BTW- not really calm about it but trying to take it in stride and just figure out where my heart lies and what I think I should do...probably wait it out but we will see...

Can't wait to see if anymore of you get some awesome +'s- FX for all!!! Sorry this was sooo long

[Carlin]

So . . . the good news.... POAS this morning and BFP! Except it's more like a Skinny Little Positive and that combined with my temp drop this morning has me pretty worried. With my DD I tested at 16 dpo and the test line was darker and thicker than the control and actually showed up first. I know in theory the darkness of the line shouldn't matter, but at 15 dpo I really expected a darker line than this. Please send sticky bean vibes my my and if you don't mind, I'll hang around here a few more days before moving to graduates.

Here's the pic. You can just barely, barely see the 2nd line. It got slightly darker after this and is easier to see IRL, but it's still mighty light.

 to everyone who has AF on the way!

MamanF, isn't charting awesome! Even with a totally messed up sleep schedule, I'm amazed by the information it gives me!

[Thebyr]

sending sticky vibes Carlin!!!!

[myllissa]

Carlin: I knew it!!  Congrats!!!   I'm hoping that the temp drop is nothing.  It wasn't a huge drop, but it would still have me worried too.  Take it easy, think happy thoughts.

Stella: I just realized that you and I are both in Colorado Springs!  What a coincidence!!  (I think my profile just says Colorado....)  Give your honey some time. I can see where he is coming from and that is the same reason my husband and I put off having another one.  I was out of a job, twice for 6 months at a time, and we wanted to be more financially stable before we tried for another.  It took me 6 months to find my first job here in CS, held that job for a pitiful 6 months, then it took another 6 months to get hired into a new job.  I've been working at this job for 7 months and it is going great.  My husband got back from a year long deployment in September and we've been trying since then.  Maybe in a few months if he gets a good job and you guys are on your feet financially, he'll reconsider.  I know waiting this long between kids can be difficult.  We didn't anticipate that big of a gap between my DS and a second child.  But, it is what it is.  Hang in there.

MamanF: I've seen several ladies use B6 to lengthen their LP with success.  I hope this works for you.  This has been my first month charting temps, and everyday I'm excited about what it will bring.  Next cycle you'll be equipped with more knowledge about your body and can hopefully have more success. 

A2E: Sorry about the temp drop, sweetie!  It was looking so good, too.  Here's to next cycle!!

Scowgirl: I agree that it is a great decision to keep positive and move onto the graduates!  I'm happy hear that your doctor is helping you out and taking good care of you.  FX that you get a sticky bean!

AFM:  Still sitting, waiting.  At least my temp stayed up today.  That's a good sign! I woke up feeling cold and was shocked when my temp was the same as yesterday. 

[mamaforever]

Congrats, Carlin!!!!!    I see that pretty line!  Sending lots of sticky vibes your way!!!!

MamanF-  no problem about the tip.  I hope it helps your LP!  I would suggest starting with 50 mg of the B6 first though (and take it with your prenatal so that you're getting the other B vitamins too).  100mg is supposed to be the max dosage.  If the 50 mg doesn't do anything, then up it a little more.  I also took (and continue to) Red Raspberry Leaf which I don't know has anything to do with LP, but it's supposed to strengthen your uterine lining.

gratefulstella-  more hugs to you!

[taurustheta]

Ladies! Man, lots going on with this thread lately. 

gratefulstella: I was sorry to read about your DH's recent decision. Not too long ago, I was in the same position as you are now: wanting another but DH absolutely not onboard. Sounds like you're handling things in a much more mature way than I did-- I didn't even really talk to my DH for a couple of days (which was lovely, since we were on a romantic getaway with DD staying with her grandparents). I meditated on it, made a shaky peace, focused on taking care of my DD and myself. A year later (a couple of months ago), DH said that if I still wanted to try for another, then he was ready. And he was sure. I think what helped bring about the change of heart was seeing our DD playing so beautifully with her two young cousins, whom we were visiting at the time. And also the fact that we are more financially stable now. That, and something about reading the book Room! (Have you read it? It's amazing.) Anyway, I guess my point is, I understand what you must be going through right now. And also: don't lose hope. Or rather, make peace with his decision…but don't be too surprised if your DH changes his mind at some point. Also, continue staying in touch with yourself about how you're feeling. If not trying for another little one is a deal-breaker for you, you may have to make some hard decisions. Sending you hugs.

Carlin: I had a feeling you would be the next to get a BFP! Multiplying the sticky vibes!

Scowgirl: Hang in there. I know you must be going crazy. Even MORE sticky vibes heading your way now. 

mamaforever: Yay for sore boobs!!! Sticky, sticky, STICKY.

MamanFrancaise: Way to be positive, and yes, charting is extremely cool. I mean, what an empowering tool with which to learn about our bodies. Why aren't all girls taught this info at an early age? 

A2E: Sending you a big hug.

Anyalily: Welcome!!

AFM: So yesterday I was in a foul, foul mood…I dunno, feeling powerless, I guess. What helped a bit was going out and buying a brand-new thermometer, which seems to function fine. It's not much use at the moment, since I'm at the end of my cycle and can't really compare current temps with past ones since the past ones were all screwy due to the broken thermometer…but it felt good to get one, and I'll likely need it for next cycle. (Also, always handy to have a functioning thermometer in the house, obviously.) So yes, AF is due tomorrow if I have a 28-day cycle this time…though last cycle was 31 days. Since I have no idea when/if I ovulated…though I FELT as if I ovulated around Day 14...I can't decide whether to test sooner or later or just see if AF arrives. I'm having no preg symptoms other than possibly more CM than usual for this time in my cycle plus being very tired (but that could be due to various other things).

[gozal]

Carlin!!! I had a really good feeling for you, but being superstitious me, I didn't say anything. I am sending out tons of good thoughts your way. I can tell you from my frantic visits to the +hpt galleries at FF (shhhh, don't tell about my obsessiveness, okay?) that I have seen a huge variation in line strength per dpo, especially on FRERs. 

gratefulstella, I'm really sorry to hear about what you're going through. Do you know why it is that your husband doesn't want another child? Is it really logistics and money, or is it something deeper than that? It is a deeply personal decision, and I hope you and your husband can come to an agreement that is comfortable for you both. 

myllisa, yeah, I was shocked too the first time I woke up freezing and yet my temp was nice and high - bodies are so weird (and wonderful, when they are being cooperative)!

MamanF, what brand cheapies are you using? Mine are awesome. They are just as reliable as the more expensive CBEs I've used, and because of my situation, their results have been confirmed by bloodwork. I order mine from Amazon. They're the blue-handled kind that say LH all over the handle. I occasionally have some uneven lines and stuff but when the thing is positive, it's unmistakable. So IME if I'm not sure, it's not positive. Same for their HPTs. 

A2E - noooo! Boo plunge of death! Sorry to hear. :(

AFM, +OPK this afternoon confirmed with blood levels. Looks like I'm going to ovulate right around cd14. (Stevi, we are buddies in the textbook department this cycle!) That pineapple better ripen up.

[KnittinKitten]

Carlin: Yaaayyy!!!! I had such a good feeling about you this cycle! I am sending super sticky, like super glue sticky, vibes your way! Snuggled in little bean!

MamanF: Big hugs! Way to look at the positives, I know it can be hard to do that sometimes.

Scowgirl: I am so proud of you saying yes to moving on! I have a feeling there will be more of you following shortly.

[gratefulstella]

How awesome and miraculous that there have been SOOO many + preggo tests!!! sticky bean vibes to you all!!! Carlin- a line is a line is a line, FX for a sticky bean and congrats mama!!!

Myllissa- I didn't realize you were right in the area either- Crazy with the job situation. He has been staying at home with DD so I am not sure how much time he actually gets to look for a job but it helps in the not paying for daycare department

taurustheta- I think that sounds like a lovely decision, I am pretty good at patience and I think focusing more on our family and less on this decision is a good thing. I am just trying to take it all in and I believe coming to peace with it would be my next step...Not sure if I am ready to give up on our family just yet...- Not sure of the logistics (money or what not, we have talked but I still just don't get him- trying to be a better listener..not sure how well I am doing with that but it sounds like I am doing crappy)- On another note I am sorry that you are feeling powerless but I hope the next chart looks beautiful and blesses you with a bouncy bean implanted

Gozal- He has been really trying to work on himself and dig a little deeper (for all you disney fans...) and get to the bottom of anything that has hindered him in life. So I wonder if there really is more to this than just not wanting another child- either way I am ready to play the waiting game...for a while. Looks like for you it is time to start doing the BD!!! Go to mama

KnittinKitten- is it almost O time? Hope you are doing well :)

[AndtheStars]

Here is the link to the new November Graduates thread in I'm Pregnant.

http://www.mothering.com/community/t/1334973/the-one-thread-graduates-november-2011#post_16729779

[reelala]

CARLIN  and 

YAY for you and your sticky bean!  I hope I see you over in graduates soon.

[Belia]

I see that line, Carlin!!!    Stick baby stick!