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Queer Conceptions: November 2011

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WELCOME TO NOVEMBER! Come on turkey baster babies! smile.gifgoodvibes.gif

Waiting to O whistling.gif

* Hoping2bemoms

* Carmen BFPChart2.gif

*TineyDreams

*outdoorsy

* lisedea BFPChart2.gif


Waiting to Know... Braving the 2WW fingersx.gif

* Cananny

*invitnconceptn

* Nosreves

* Kgulbransen

* Skyandtru

Working on IVF ecbaby.gif

* Alphahen & DP

* FiveGrandBaby


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MIA/Taking a Break/Figuring Things Out/Waiting to be Ready
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*NAMW
* RainbowValleyMama
* mami2mami
* MaxK
* Happycalm
* IrishBabies
* AmandaMom
* Glados
* Serepartera (February 2011)
* Miss Scarlett
* Milletpuff
* Chiquitayy
* Lyndzies
* MidwifeStephPDX
* Gellybeangrl BFPChart2.gif
* Dandylez
* Want2bePapa
* MeghanC
* Rs11
* Yeledov
* Handerson
* Desert Sunsets
* BunnyLullabye
* cnmk14
* Maybeababy
* 2moms3kids
* Southern Fried Karma BFPChart2.gif
* OwlandTurtle
* jennytuck
* JennP85
* Habitat
* EmandJoHeil
* MrsPP BFPChart2.gif



2011 Graduates!
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November * Aljm41910 broc1.gif * MujerMamaMismo broc1.gif
October * Vienna79 joy.gif * KSDoulaMama joy.gif *Pleasantlyfurious joy.gif *SwtRainbowBrite joy.gif * Go_Vegan joy.gif
September * Smilingsara carrot.gif * Ad Astra carrot.gif * Mumquest carrot.gif
August *Prettyisa broc1.gif
July * Onemommyonemama joy.gif
June * CrystalPerez broc1.gif* Qmama42 broc1.gif
May * KellySF carrot.gif
April * want2bmumx2 joy.gif * Indigoscot & DP joy.gif
March * Graceie broc1.gif * Seraf broc1.gif* 2ezforyou broc1.gif *Mommy55 broc1.gif
February * Escher 10/24/11 *SharriKitColorado* DAWNMP1
January * Starling&diesel 10/2/11

2010 Graduates!

November * Mizyellow 7/25/11 * AmyPDX 7/30/11 * AmandaHope 8/3/11 * Cejae 7/4/11
September * Solejean 5/19/11 * Painefaria 6/5/11
August * Bttrflygypsy 4/10/11 * 2happymamas 4/15/11 * LibraryLady 4/15/11
July * Beastie 3/21/11 * Gumshoegirl007 4/2/11 * Wehrli 4/1/11
June * Coco & DP 2/14/11
May * Burg 2/4/11 * Korey 2/1/11
April * Calimeow * Mtnlisa * Kimlyn32
February * Mistral * Quasar & smartycat * Monarchgrrl * Erthe_mama & DP
January * Lyndzies * FtMpapa

2009 Graduates!

December* Osker * Megan sacha * Mkpgoddess
October * JJNoho * Mommies 2 Be * Megincl & Ktcl
September * Elismum1908 * KSDoulaMama * Pleasantlyfurious
August * Chicagoml * Wishin'&hopin'
July * Hbog
May * Indigoscot's dp
April * Kelmendi * KJM * Whoabethy * Carmen
March * Scalpel * Katwomyn4
February * Deny_zoo29
January * Jodybird511
Edited by lisedea - 11/30/11 at 6:48am
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This will be a strange month for me since this time last year was when I got my BFP. Hoping for threadkeeper's luck with a sticky one this time around! Please let me know if there is anything I need to change or add in bold. I will try my best to keep up! Peace.gif
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Figured I'd repost this in the nice new thread!

 

Hi ladies! This is Tiney's DP- I'm so thankful we found you all, and for all your wisdom and kindness! I wish you all lots of powerful baby dust and BFP's soon if you haven't gotten one yet. To everyone who has recently- congrats!! It gives me and DP lots of hope!!

 

So exciting news!! We had our first appointment with our OB today, and it was awesome! We were both very nervous I think we about peed our pants in the waiting room. We had a weird interaction with the receptionist (Her: "What's your marital status?" Me: "umm..partnered? This is my spouse so however you want to categorize that" Her: "Oh so you're single?" Me: "NO this is my spouse." lol.... duh.gif) but as soon as we started talking with the doctor we calmed down. She was totally pro-gay, has lots of lesbian (and even gay couples with surragates) patients, and has LOTS of IUI experience. So here is our plan, please let us know any reactions or ideas you have!

 

So I'm on CD 6, and we will do our first insem next cycle. So she gave us a script for Clomid, which I will take CD 3-7 next month, then go in for an ultrasound on CD 12 or 13 and take some medication that sounds pretty much like a trigger shot, then do one vial of frozen sperm 24 hours later. We were both surprised that she only does one vial and one IUI per cycle, but she says she typically can have success within 3 cycles. Does this all sound good? We are pretty happy with it, adn SO excited to get started. jumpers.gif

Lisedea: could you add us to the waiting to be ready list? Thanks!

 

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Lise: Ooh! Can you add us to "Waiting to be Ready" or "Waiting to ovulate!" --Since we're starting next cycle...not sure which one we fit best! biggrinbounce.gif

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Tiney: sounds like a good plan. Would recommend questioning some potential modification.

 

1. Does she do a baseline ultrasound at CD3 to get an idea of your antracal follie count (resting follie count)? That way you know whether Clomid really worked or not when she checks you after you've been taking it and closer to ovulation. She also would need to double check that you have no cysts because Clomid can increase the chance of that and cause problems if you do have one.

2. Does she do other monitoring between CD3-7 when you're taking Clomid? I ask because some docs will adjust dosage of Clomid dependent on response. If you're not responding, they're going to up the dosage to see if they can still get you to respond. This does require extra ultrasounds though and many practices are hesitant to offer it because of cost.

3. BTW, why are you doing Clomid? I'm forgetting (sorry!) what your previous attempts were. I was on another lesbo chat board today about Clomid and there was a lot of talk (and research) about how Clomid can actually be detrimental if you ovulate normally. It can cause hostile mucous which is part of the concern. There's an increase usage just to "make it easier to get pregnant" and it's not recommended. I didn't go on it until after I had tried a number of cycles and wasn't getting pregnant. I'm not saying it's not right for you, I'm just surprised if she offered it up as the first thing. Especially when she says things like she can "typically have success within three cycles." At your age, she has a better chance that you will have success on that alone and giving you Clomid could increase that. Of course, YOU want that so I know it sounds good! There is a 10% risk of multiples using Clomid (typically twins, rarely triplets).

4. Make sure she will give you estrogen if the Clomid thins your lining. It's seriously a waste of money to inseminate if you're lining isn't good enough and Clomid can do that for some people. But if there's a plan in place, you could plump it before it's needed for implantation. I just think having a plan in place ahead of time will be good. They would check your lining when they do the ultrasound around CD12.

 

She is probably correct in recommending there only be one insemination per cycle. Studies have yet to prove that back-to-back inseminations with frozen sperm increase the chances of getting pregnant and in those they did find that to be true, it was extremely small.

 

BTW, studies have also shown (can you see I'm big on studies??) that insemination 36 hours after trigger has proven to have a higher success rate than 24 hours after trigger.

 

Good luck! It's exciting times for you guys.

 

Krista

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Hi Ladies,

Threadcrashing to say congratulations to RainbowBrite, Vienna and Vegan! joy.gifjoy.gifjoy.gifjoy.gifjoy.gifjoy.gifjoy.gifjoy.gif

 

Also, DP and I were cleaning out and if anyone is interested, we have a FRER pregnancy test and also a sample pack of 6 endometrin (progesterone) 100mg vaginal inserts.  We were going to toss them, but I figured I'd offer them up in case anyone wants them.  Just send me a PM if you do.

 

All the best and good luck to everyone here! 

Dawn

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Lisedea~ Thanks for the nice new shinny thread!

 

Krista~ My DW did the same thing to me. I'm set to start back with a FET in December with the Sher Institute. She wants us to give up after we try the 3 embryos we have frozen. I have insurance so I have 3 more IVF attempts left...and I really want to try...if all 3 fail then I guess we are done, but I at least want to try. I guess an added pressure is our ages...I'm 39 and she is 53. I get that she doesn't want to be ancient when we have our kid, but I still want one. Like you said...we will see.

 

AFM~ I have been MIA for a bit...we are in the process of changing insurance and are set to start a FET cycle in December with the Sher Institute if all goes well. Nothing much more to report here.

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Krista!  Thank you SO MUCH for all the info!  We are definitely talking about all these things as well as talking them over with the doc.  She said the reason for the Clomid is because my cycles are typically a bit long and I've been ovulating around CD 18.  She said by taking the Clomid it would shorten the length of time before O and therefore have healthier/ more viable follicles.  Does this make sense to you?  I also think it makes it easier for her to time the insems.  I mean we are okay with her method as long as it doesn't increase risks of m/c's or any other serious issues.  And we aren't too worried about multiples, either- hoping for them if we should be so blessed!  Thank you, again for your wisdom- lots to think about! More info if you think of anything else!  

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Lise: please add DW and I to waiting to O

 

Sorry everyone about the bold print I am having difficulty fixing this ......I don't meant to be so loud and expressive with my words.

Krista:

 

1. Does she do a baseline ultrasound at CD3 to get an idea of your antracal follie count (resting follie count)? That way you know whether Clomid really worked or not when she checks you after you've been taking it and closer to ovulation. She also would need to double check that you have no cysts because Clomid can increase the chance of that and cause problems if you do have one.

2. Does she do other monitoring between CD3-7 when you're taking Clomid? I ask because some docs will adjust dosage of Clomid dependent on response. If you're not responding, they're going to up the dosage to see if they can still get you to respond. This does require extra ultrasounds though and many practices are hesitant to offer it because of cost.

3. BTW, why are you doing Clomid? I'm forgetting (sorry!) what your previous attempts were. I was on another lesbo chat board today about Clomid and there was a lot of talk (and research) about how Clomid can actually be detrimental if you ovulate normally. It can cause hostile mucous which is part of the concern. There's an increase usage just to "make it easier to get pregnant" and it's not recommended. I didn't go on it until after I had tried a number of cycles and wasn't getting pregnant. I'm not saying it's not right for you, I'm just surprised if she offered it up as the first thing. Especially when she says things like she can "typically have success within three cycles." At your age, she has a better chance that you will have success on that alone and giving you Clomid could increase that. Of course, YOU want that so I know it sounds good! There is a 10% risk of multiples using Clomid (typically twins, rarely triplets).

4. Make sure she will give you estrogen if the Clomid thins your lining. It's seriously a waste of money to inseminate if you're lining isn't good enough and Clomid can do that for some people. But if there's a plan in place, you could plump it before it's needed for implantation. I just think having a plan in place ahead of time will be good. They would check your lining when they do the ultrasound around CD12.

 

She is probably correct in recommending there only be one insemination per cycle. Studies have yet to prove that back-to-back inseminations with frozen sperm increase the chances of getting pregnant and in those they did find that to be true, it was extremely small.

 

BTW, studies have also shown (can you see I'm big on studies??) that insemination 36 hours after trigger has proven to have a higher success rate than 24 hours after trigger.

1. Does she do a baseline ultrasound at CD3 to get an idea of your antracal follie count (resting follie count)? That way you know whether Clomid really worked or not when she checks you after you've been taking it and closer to ovulation. She also would need to double check that you have no cysts because Clomid can increase the chance of that and cause problems if you do have one.

2. Does she do other monitoring between CD3-7 when you're taking Clomid? I ask because some docs will adjust dosage of Clomid dependent on response. If you're not responding, they're going to up the dosage to see if they can still get you to respond. This does require extra ultrasounds though and many practices are hesitant to offer it because of cost.

3. BTW, why are you doing Clomid? I'm forgetting (sorry!) what your previous attempts were. I was on another lesbo chat board today about Clomid and there was a lot of talk (and research) about how Clomid can actually be detrimental if you ovulate normally. It can cause hostile mucous which is part of the concern. There's an increase usage just to "make it easier to get pregnant" and it's not recommended. I didn't go on it until after I had tried a number of cycles and wasn't getting pregnant. I'm not saying it's not right for you, I'm just surprised if she offered it up as the first thing. Especially when she says things like she can "typically have success within three cycles." At your age, she has a better chance that you will have success on that alone and giving you Clomid could increase that. Of course, YOU want that so I know it sounds good! There is a 10% risk of multiples using Clomid (typically twins, rarely triplets).

4. Make sure she will give you estrogen if the Clomid thins your lining. It's seriously a waste of money to inseminate if you're lining isn't good enough and Clomid can do that for some people. But if there's a plan in place, you could plump it before it's needed for implantation. I just think having a plan in place ahead of time will be good. They would check your lining when they do the ultrasound around CD12.

 

She is probably correct in recommending there only be one insemination per cycle. Studies have yet to prove that back-to-back inseminations with frozen sperm increase the chances of getting pregnant and in those they did find that to be true, it was extremely small.

 

BTW, studies have also shown (can you see I'm big on studies??) that insemination 36 hours after trigger has proven to have a higher success rate than 24 hours after trigger.

 

 

Wow krista you are so knowledgable!! You had asked me in the October thread about how I track my ovulation. Here is my process: usually about CD 10 I start using OPK digital predictor kits religiously every 4 hrs and all the while I pay attn to the how the test line is getting darker. I typically get OPK smiley face usually on CD 16 or 17 and I cont to test for a while to see how the test line change in color. I've been told that once the digital test is still showing a positive reading and the test line is beginning to shift in color slightly than we do a ICI at home with frozen sperm. We typically insem about 36 hrs after initial OPK smiley face. Interesting, we started doing at home ICI since the start of the summer due to the costs and since then I think that I had implantation cramping once, prior to this I could swear that every time I did an IUI in the doctor's office I had implantation cramping. Who knows what the special secret is to all this baby making magic. I would love your thoughts about the idea of doing 2 IUIs in the same cycle at home. DW is researching the process as we speak.

 

Other thoughts, Krista. I have to tell you that I relate to you so well about the frustrations with being on board with your sigificant other. My DW just revealed to me today that after alittle over a year of trying she thinks that she is just getting into this process. But from my perspective, on the days when the crap hits the fan (I get AF, or some other disappointment occurs) she sometimes seems to retreat into her own world where she plays video games for hours and will give me one liner supportive statements like "You ok, it will get better." She rarely shared any outward struggles with the process which makes me feels somewhat alone. Look at that, I just made this all about me. Sorry forgive me,  I am trying to say that it is so hard to hear information DP which can be so devastating for you to hear bc now you not only have to be concerned with all your worries and thoughts with ttc and now you have to try to figure out what is going on in your relationship. Sometimes perhaps it be helpful to get clarified whether your DP's thoughts are just ideas she is brainstorming or if this is something she is coming to resolution about. I say this because sometimes my DW will just speak before she thinks and has really thought out what is bothering her, this typically is trying for me.

 

Lise: congrats on your great Progestrone levels. Awesome.thumb.gif

 

 

Dandylez: I'm so sorry to hear about the discovery of that infection. If you don't mind me asking, how did doctors actually suspect that you may have had an infection. Forgive me if did identify this in  earlier thread.

 

 

NOS: Wow I'm so interested in all your fun tools: so you take red raspberry tear, acupunture, fertility yoga poses (I will have to look this up, interesting.) What does "EPO for cm" mean, if that is ok to ask? These are the things that I have tried that others have recommended to me: evening primrose oil for fertile cm, and pineapple core for a few days after O. I am very interested in anything that would help with implantation and to lengthen my LH phase. I'm going to cont to take Prometrium.

 

 

Desert: I'm so sorry for the transition your little family unit will be experiencing here soon when your foster kids return to their bio parents. I think your thoughts were poignant and honest about what it is going to feel like for you and DP to be w/o the kids and be in a position of readjusting to a different way of living. I'm sure there are so many mixed emotions wrapped up in the process and I hope that both you  and DP are being able to be gentle with yourself.  You guys sound like caring devoted parents, who currently happen to be foster parents.

 

 

 

AFM: First and fore most, I can't not thank everyone enough for sweet kind words when I was struggling with my AF last week. So update: DW and I have decided to do two IUIs at home this month. I think this is possible and my uterus can handle this?!?. I'm going to cont to take progestrone as well since it appeared to help last month. Oh yes, I've committed to myself I'm going to work on relaxing more. Darn it, by the end of the week I hope to have scheduled acupuncture appt. I need all this: tonight my one good friend who has been my warrior sister going along with me in this process of ttc told me and my DW that she was pregnant. I so know it already. We strangely were on the same cycle this month and she wasn't sharing much when I told her AF came. She think she found out two days ago with multiple BFPs. I was in shock a little bit. But to be honest I have to say that it was truly her time. This woman is in her late 30s she has been trying for many years and has had two failed IVFs and this past cycle she said she didn't think as much about it, as much as a lesbian who takes tons of supplements and adheres to a pretty strict ttc regiment can. I am truly happy for her- and it was so kind of her to be so guarded and worried about offending me. I appreciated her sensitivity and I think this what makes her actually a great friend. A shoutout to all the kind and sensitive pregnant folks out there. You don't know how much easier you make this process. thank you.

 

 

 

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Well, we're still waiting to be ready, but hopefully we'll try soon. We're hopefully going to use my wife's brother as a known donor for the first couple of attempts. He's going in for a semen analysis on Thursday. I insisted on getting one; I want to be sure everything is going to be GTG and we won't be wasting our time (or the drugs I'm going to have to take).

 

TD -my regular OB actually has a column for partnered. She's totally cool with it. The RE doesn't care either.

 

Congrats to all the October grads!

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Hey everyone!

I'm back after a fun but exhausting conference/vacation. Looks like I O'd around cd 20/21 based on ewcm and other signs. I wasn't temping or doing opks/monitor though. Bummer it was a later O again. A cd16 O last time made my cycle seem so short!

I've decided to go for the hsg in a few weeks and we hope to try again in November....our KD may be out of town though....hope to find out his schedule soon and then hope my O cooperates wink1.gif
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Hey ladies today we are 7dpobiggrinbounce.gif and we are not sure how much longer we can wait before testing. I am still experiencing the cramping but not as offer as I was at 1dpo-5dpo.

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Thank you for the new thread Lise!

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Just got an opk smiley face with a clear blue line today at 2:50 p.m. --- a full 7 days after my odd, early, smeared, positive opk last week. CM is getting wetter and I'm hoping this will be a healthy cycle despite the weirdness last week. I'm cd 23, which is not that unusual for me. We are going to do two vials this time instead of one, and probably with a pipette from the sperm bank instead of the needless syringe from the drug store. The syringe didn't reach to the bottom of the vial, forcing us to tip it precariously. Question: I've heard some people say they inseminate with a speculum in. Doesn't that let in air that could harm the sperm if you are doing ICI?

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outdoorsy: Good luck with insemination! I'm not quite sure how exposing the sperm to air could hurt. Sperm is often exposed to air in the lesbian conception process and doesn't necessarily pose a problem. But what some people seem to experience with a speculum (and why they quickly abandon one!) is that it allows for the sperm to fall back out, down through the vaginal canal and away from where you want it. So it's extremely tricky.

 

Hopefully others here could give you a tip or two about how to possibly avoid that??

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I agree with Krista and was going to write in earlier but didn't have a chance. We used a speculum during one of our first ICI tries because we thought we could make it much closer to the opening and we could see where we were going. We DEFINITELY pulled out too much sperm with the speculum . After that happened, we didn't do it again. To me, it seemed as though every drop mattered and as long as I stayed upside down for a while (and rolled side to side...), most should make it to the os. We used the speculum again when we switched to IUI and since we went right into the cervix, we were safe.

You can always try...but just be aware of the chance of pulling some of it out.
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Despite my best efforts, I'm starting to get excited about trying again. This worries me, because I don't want to get disappointed and discouraged if it doesn't happen right away. How do others on here deal with this?

 

I've been working really hard to lose weight. My ideal weight is 125 and I was 139 when the doctor told me it would help with my cycles if I could lose 5-10 pounds. I'm not *that* far off, but every bit helps. I've lost 4 pounds so far!

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rs11: ttc is inherently stressful no matter who you are. I'm particularly biased by I think it be particularly challenging for us lesbos. I think something that helps me is trying to focus on the smaller picture, specifically what am I doing to take care of myself and in the process bettering my odds of pregnancy on a month to month basis. When I am particularly struggling on certain days, I have to scale down my focus even more: what am I just doing in this moment that is helpful? I have really enjoyed a particular blog from Kate somebody. I think the name of it is "busted plumbing. She is so sarcastic and her witty thoughts helps lighten stressful ttc days with alot of needed humor.

 

AFM: So today was a interesting day. It was one year anniversary of my sweet sweet 11yr mutt passing away from lymphoma. I've been dreading this day about a month. Strangely, it was the most relaxed day I have had in awhile, mostly bc I took the day off work and focused alot of self care. I tried acupuncture for the first time and I went to the park with DW and our other dog. It was simply a nice day.

 

Has anyone here ever used pre-seed lubricant? I ordered it today along with other stuff in prep for next week's at home IUIs.

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Hi everyone. Im always MIA for a week then I get the time to get on. Any ways DP took a Pregnancy text 2 days ago 11DPO and it was negative. Today 13DPO and she usually starts on the 3rd sometimes 4th so we shall see if she starts.. Hopw not but if so then we probably will take a break until Dec or Jan.

Lisdea- Hopefully this is your month!

AMT- Good luck with your new donor. Thats where I found my donor but we get ours shipped cuz he is like 9 hrs away. We looked and the swimmers were still alive but no luck yet. If my DP gets her AF we may try to go visit him to get fresh sperm but not til after the holidays. There are NO donors in New Mexico. It sucks.

 

And good luck for everyone else!! Baby dust and Fingers Crossed.

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Invitn: we use preseed every time although I didn't do a great job of it this time and I'm wondering if I paid for it! Place it at least 30 minutes prior (that's where I went wrong this time). It helps in a couple of different ways. For us, we prefer it because it helps DP due the insemination and makes it easier for her to get to the opening of the cervix. For others, they use it to help facilitate the sperm swimming up to the right place, especially if they don't have the proper amount of CM. I've heard many say you don't need to use nearly as much as they recommend in the package. I use about 1/3 of the applicator, maybe 1/2. Hope that helps.

 

AFM: Well, after much debate with my doctors (who didn't help much) and my own diagnosis of stopping my Prometrium, my AF started. I think the Progesterone was delaying it although that had never happened to me before. I'm pretty okay with it although more disappointed that my body screwed with my head royally and made me think for a minute that I was pregnant again! I don't feel the timing was as perfect as it had been in the past so we're hopeful for next month. We've already got one donor lined up again.

 

I highly recommend the FDSR website. I actually recently flew to LA to do an interview for ABC's 20/20 and the owner of that website was also there. We've gotten to know each other better and I really value the service she is performing to our community.

 

Krista

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