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Hi all. I'm so far behind, but I'll have to catch up later. Greta June was born at 12:32 am on November 2! She just missed the 11-1-11 birthday! We just got back from the hospital and DD1 is so in love with her baby sister. We may have a fight on our hands... not over her mommy, but over HER Greta! I'll come back later with more details.



Yay Mal!!! Welcome to the world, Greta!

post #162 of 1257
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Anyone remember when Nicole's c-section was schedule for?  I was thinking it was sometime about now!

 

 

ETA:

 

 

This means she had her babies!!!  Thinking of you, Nicole, and hoping it all went well!



heartbeat.gif  yes, this!  Hope everything went well!

post #163 of 1257
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Amy, I have like three of them... they give you one at the hospital or you should have one in your midwife's home birth kit.  It may not be as effective, but you could just get one of this flip top massage oil bottles from your local natural grocery or massage supply store.  It's what I use for wipe solution and I'm sure it would be fine.  They're like $1.



You know, it wasn't on my home birth supplies list, so maybe my midwife will give me one. I'll have to ask her. If not, I have a massage therapist friend (who's actually giving me a massage tomorrow) and she might have one of those bottles or know where to get one. Thanks!

post #164 of 1257

You can probably get one at Sally's Beauty Supply (or a similar beauty supply store).
 

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You know, it wasn't on my home birth supplies list, so maybe my midwife will give me one. I'll have to ask her. If not, I have a massage therapist friend (who's actually giving me a massage tomorrow) and she might have one of those bottles or know where to get one. Thanks!



 

post #165 of 1257

Ah, well it's 12:27am and officially my due date.  Had a 3rd sweep today; my midwife said my cervix was "super soft" and dilated 1.5-2, which she easily stretched to a 3.  Some bleeding and lots of BHs, but nothing that feels like anything "real."

 

While I'm not hysterical like I was on Monday, I have this kind of defeated feeling like my body isn't going to go into labor on it's own.  I know that I'm not being reasonable; after all, I JUST hit 40 weeks today.  But... I don't know.  I just feel worn out and like this could actually go on forever, or like they're going to have to induce me because it's not gonna happen on it's own.

 

I know these thoughts are unreasonable; I don't know where they are coming from.  It's just like, I don't see how I could go from where I'm at right now... to labor.  I just can't picture how that could happen.  My body feels so damn stagnant.  I was so sure that I would go early, and now that it's my due date I'm so sure I'm not going to go at all and I'm going to need a million interventions (even if they are drug-free).  I'm convinced I'm gonna need like 4 or 5 more sweeps plus castor oil plus god only knows what else to get this baby out.  I have no faith that my body knows what to do... and that goes 100% against my general philosophy of life!  I am a holistic-minded, listen-to-your-body kind of girl.  I'm all about my body's wisdom and the mind-body connection and natural living.  But I feel totally out of touch with my body right now, and have no trust in this process, and it's throwing me off.

 

I don't feel panicky or anxious or upset; I just feel quietly reserved and certain that labor isn't going to happen on it's own.

post #166 of 1257

hug.gif

 

I could say a lot about mindset and attitude being important and staying positive and all that, but I don't think that's what you need, so just hug.gif.
 

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Ah, well it's 12:27am and officially my due date.  Had a 3rd sweep today; my midwife said my cervix was "super soft" and dilated 1.5-2, which she easily stretched to a 3.  Some bleeding and lots of BHs, but nothing that feels like anything "real."

 

While I'm not hysterical like I was on Monday, I have this kind of defeated feeling like my body isn't going to go into labor on it's own.  I know that I'm not being reasonable; after all, I JUST hit 40 weeks today.  But... I don't know.  I just feel worn out and like this could actually go on forever, or like they're going to have to induce me because it's not gonna happen on it's own.

 

I know these thoughts are unreasonable; I don't know where they are coming from.  It's just like, I don't see how I could go from where I'm at right now... to labor.  I just can't picture how that could happen.  My body feels so damn stagnant.  I was so sure that I would go early, and now that it's my due date I'm so sure I'm not going to go at all and I'm going to need a million interventions (even if they are drug-free).  I'm convinced I'm gonna need like 4 or 5 more sweeps plus castor oil plus god only knows what else to get this baby out.  I have no faith that my body knows what to do... and that goes 100% against my general philosophy of life!  I am a holistic-minded, listen-to-your-body kind of girl.  I'm all about my body's wisdom and the mind-body connection and natural living.  But I feel totally out of touch with my body right now, and have no trust in this process, and it's throwing me off.

 

I don't feel panicky or anxious or upset; I just feel quietly reserved and certain that labor isn't going to happen on it's own.



 

post #167 of 1257

My trip went well yesterday. Left at almost 1PM and got back at just after 8 our time. I managed to lose part of my mucous plug while we were at my sister's house, dropping DS off with mom, so yay! Also, cervix is dilated enough to easily fit 2 fingers, almost 3 and is easier to reach.

post #168 of 1257

Happy due date, Katie!  Big hugs, and I hope that your appointments today go well.  That massage is going to be sooo relaxing, I'm pretty jealous of you today ;-)  I belly modeled for the midwifery students yesterday and they rubbed my feet- OMG it was like heaven.  I can't imagine how relaxed I'd be if someone rubbed my WHOLE BODY for an hour.  Hmmm... Maybe I ought to get a massage :-)

post #169 of 1257
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Ah, well it's 12:27am and officially my due date.  Had a 3rd sweep today; my midwife said my cervix was "super soft" and dilated 1.5-2, which she easily stretched to a 3.  Some bleeding and lots of BHs, but nothing that feels like anything "real."

 

While I'm not hysterical like I was on Monday, I have this kind of defeated feeling like my body isn't going to go into labor on it's own.  I know that I'm not being reasonable; after all, I JUST hit 40 weeks today.  But... I don't know.  I just feel worn out and like this could actually go on forever, or like they're going to have to induce me because it's not gonna happen on it's own.

 

I know these thoughts are unreasonable; I don't know where they are coming from.  It's just like, I don't see how I could go from where I'm at right now... to labor.  I just can't picture how that could happen.  My body feels so damn stagnant.  I was so sure that I would go early, and now that it's my due date I'm so sure I'm not going to go at all and I'm going to need a million interventions (even if they are drug-free).  I'm convinced I'm gonna need like 4 or 5 more sweeps plus castor oil plus god only knows what else to get this baby out.  I have no faith that my body knows what to do... and that goes 100% against my general philosophy of life!  I am a holistic-minded, listen-to-your-body kind of girl.  I'm all about my body's wisdom and the mind-body connection and natural living.  But I feel totally out of touch with my body right now, and have no trust in this process, and it's throwing me off.

 

I don't feel panicky or anxious or upset; I just feel quietly reserved and certain that labor isn't going to happen on it's own.


Do you think that maybe the way your feeling is what is holding your body back?  Or do you think your feelings are really because your body is holding back?

 

Either way hug2.gif

 

post #170 of 1257
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Originally Posted by MrsKatie View Post

Ah, well it's 12:27am and officially my due date.  Had a 3rd sweep today; my midwife said my cervix was "super soft" and dilated 1.5-2, which she easily stretched to a 3.  Some bleeding and lots of BHs, but nothing that feels like anything "real."

 

While I'm not hysterical like I was on Monday, I have this kind of defeated feeling like my body isn't going to go into labor on it's own.  I know that I'm not being reasonable; after all, I JUST hit 40 weeks today.  But... I don't know.  I just feel worn out and like this could actually go on forever, or like they're going to have to induce me because it's not gonna happen on it's own.

 

I know these thoughts are unreasonable; I don't know where they are coming from.  It's just like, I don't see how I could go from where I'm at right now... to labor.  I just can't picture how that could happen.  My body feels so damn stagnant.  I was so sure that I would go early, and now that it's my due date I'm so sure I'm not going to go at all and I'm going to need a million interventions (even if they are drug-free).  I'm convinced I'm gonna need like 4 or 5 more sweeps plus castor oil plus god only knows what else to get this baby out.  I have no faith that my body knows what to do... and that goes 100% against my general philosophy of life!  I am a holistic-minded, listen-to-your-body kind of girl.  I'm all about my body's wisdom and the mind-body connection and natural living.  But I feel totally out of touch with my body right now, and have no trust in this process, and it's throwing me off.

 

I don't feel panicky or anxious or upset; I just feel quietly reserved and certain that labor isn't going to happen on it's own.


Hugs mama.  I'm sorry you're having such a tough time.  I came across this blog post the other day (maybe someone from the DDC even posted it?  I'm losing all sense of, well, everything, lately) about how waiting for labor is like going through the five stages of grief.  It made me chuckle.  I hope it makes you chuckle too:  http://blogs.babycenter.com/mom_stories/09122011-week-38-the-5-stages-of-waiting-for-labor/

 

I know it's extremely hard.  And I'm not even at my due date yet.  But there are days when I feel like because I haven't gone into labor yet, that means my body is broken and it's never going to go into labor.  On those days, DH ducks behind the couch and quietly reminds me that delivery time is a bell curve, and 40 weeks is only the top of the bell curve (roughly), and that, though the bell curve declines after 40ish weeks, the probability of giving birth by a given date continues to go up.  The fact that I haven't been part of the 30% or so of women to give birth before 39 weeks does not mean my body is broken.  It means I'm helping fill out the bell curve.  


I know rational thought rarely helps when I'm feeling defeated, but I try to focus on it anyway.  I hope you push through this soon, and you will be snuggling your little one, even if you have to go through torture waiting for it.

 

post #171 of 1257

hug2.gif  The other mamas are right, your body knows what it's doing..  For some reason your baby isn't done growing yet.  The vast majority of first time moms go past 40w, so really, you're just normal.  What really sucks is that they've put you on a clock and made you stress out, that just doesn't help anything.  Just a little anecdotal story from me.  I have never had any pre-labor signs in either of my 2 births.  I've never lost a plug, had bloody show, dilated at all or even had a baby engage.  They both came out on their own, when they were ready.  It will happen, I promise.  hug2.gif
 

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Ah, well it's 12:27am and officially my due date.  Had a 3rd sweep today; my midwife said my cervix was "super soft" and dilated 1.5-2, which she easily stretched to a 3.  Some bleeding and lots of BHs, but nothing that feels like anything "real."

 

While I'm not hysterical like I was on Monday, I have this kind of defeated feeling like my body isn't going to go into labor on it's own.  I know that I'm not being reasonable; after all, I JUST hit 40 weeks today.  But... I don't know.  I just feel worn out and like this could actually go on forever, or like they're going to have to induce me because it's not gonna happen on it's own.

 

I know these thoughts are unreasonable; I don't know where they are coming from.  It's just like, I don't see how I could go from where I'm at right now... to labor.  I just can't picture how that could happen.  My body feels so damn stagnant.  I was so sure that I would go early, and now that it's my due date I'm so sure I'm not going to go at all and I'm going to need a million interventions (even if they are drug-free).  I'm convinced I'm gonna need like 4 or 5 more sweeps plus castor oil plus god only knows what else to get this baby out.  I have no faith that my body knows what to do... and that goes 100% against my general philosophy of life!  I am a holistic-minded, listen-to-your-body kind of girl.  I'm all about my body's wisdom and the mind-body connection and natural living.  But I feel totally out of touch with my body right now, and have no trust in this process, and it's throwing me off.

 

I don't feel panicky or anxious or upset; I just feel quietly reserved and certain that labor isn't going to happen on it's own.




 

 

post #172 of 1257
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Just so you guys all know, I asked Cynthia to make our Birth Story and Birth Announcement threads stickies at the top of the discussion page.  That way they are much easier to access when the time comes to place your own announcement and story.  I was hopeful that we could keep them all in the same threads, but I know when you're in a rush you just post wherever you get the chance to post.  Maybe this will help!

post #173 of 1257
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I know these thoughts are unreasonable; I don't know where they are coming from.  It's just like, I don't see how I could go from where I'm at right now... to labor.  I just can't picture how that could happen.  My body feels so damn stagnant. 


With my first I really had nothing going on.  No bleeding, barely noticeable BH's, I was 2cm dilated at 38 weeks.  And boom on 38w5d I had my first few real contractions that evening- maybe 3 or 4 of them.  But they went away and returned at 3am the next morning with bloody show- turning into active labor.  And that was it!  You've had a lot more going on with you so really, it literally could be any day, any time... boom!  You're in labor!

 

post #174 of 1257

MrsKatie, big hugs!!  :(  I can totally, completely relate to how you're feeling, and esp. as a 1st time mama, it's just unfathomable that labor will actually happen.  Sending you much calming energy and quick labor vibes this week!  grouphug.gif

 

Becky, glad to hear your trip went well!  

Mal--congrats on that little one!!  joy.gif

 


Castor oil:  When I did it (last two births), I took four ounces of the stuff--then yesterday I came across a recommendation for a 1 tablespoon sized dose.  huh.gif   Choking down four ounces was really hard to do--but one tablespoon would be a breeze.  I'm not even sure that counts as a natural induction so much as constipation help, LOL!  So I might do that today, heh.  

 

I'm either 39+2...or 41+2 today.  Been mulling over my options as I go farther into this pregnancy...like, I could get an u/s done if I go another week, to make sure baby and placenta are doing good. But then I don't want to PLAN to be pregnant another week, either!  My strategy for the moment is to attempt to find zen.  And read good birth stories, LOL.

 

It's officially cold by my standards here today.  My house is hovering at 69-70 degrees, and I'm really debating as to whether or not to turn on the heat!  We're all wearing multiple layers, lol.  Well, except the toddler.  He is a hardcore nudist!  Going to try to wrestle him into some longies...

 

 

 

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It's officially cold by my standards here today.  My house is hovering at 69-70 degrees, and I'm really debating as to whether or not to turn on the heat!  We're all wearing multiple layers, lol.  Well, except the toddler.  He is a hardcore nudist!  Going to try to wrestle him into some longies...

 

 

 



Oh, the heat. I hate turning on the heat! It's been in the 40's in the morning here. It's 55 outside now. So I have the heat set to 66. I hate it! Heat is so darn expensive it's ridiculous. And every time I hear it kick on, I literally visualize throwing away money. Everyone can just put on a sweater! This is my first winter in a long time being in a largish home (2700 sq ft). So I am super paranoid. I think we are going to invest in some space heaters for the rooms we are in the most. But then I'll have to worry about the kids throwing clothes on them or leaving them on, etc. And I suppose with the baby I will need to keep the house a bit warmer than usual.

 

We have a fireplace, but it is gas with those fake logs, so I don't think it actually puts out any heat. Bummer.

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How soon is too soon to try ingesting castor oil? I'm almost 39 weeks. Is that too soon? Sheepish.gif *doing research on the web*

 

Edit: *sigh* Everything I read says not to take it unless you're past your due date. Booooo. Oh well, I'm kind of still hoping for an 11/11 baby, as much as I want the baby out sooner, so I can wait. lol

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How soon is too soon to try ingesting castor oil? I'm almost 39 weeks. Is that too soon? Sheepish.gif *doing research on the web*

 

Edit: *sigh* Everything I read says not to take it unless you're past your due date. Booooo. Oh well, I'm kind of still hoping for an 11/11 baby, as much as I want the baby out sooner, so I can wait. lol



Yeah, castor oil will be my last-ditch effort, my last resort before resigning myself to a hospital birth.  So I'm going to try it probably 1 or 2 days shy of 41 weeks.  I see my midwife again on Monday for my one millionth sweep; I'll probably try it next Wednesday or Thursday.  Or as early as Tuesday so DH can be around (he works Wednesday-Saturday evenings).  My midwife was adamant that castor oil needs to wait till after 40 weeks; I wouldn't want to do it at all, personally, but to me it came down to what I want less: castor oil or hospital birth?

 

Pretty bummed out today.  Thanks, ladies, for all your responses.  I'm getting a massage and acupuncture and getting out of the house to see friends, but tell me, how else do I stay positive and relaxed at this point?  Especially with this damned 41-week bull$%*t hanging over my head?  Can you share any tricks with me?  Cause I am just not there.

 

I couldn't agree more about the importance of a positive mindset and outlook.  I'm a Law-of-Attraction follower all the way, but it's VERY challenging!  I'm super hard on myself and have a tendency to go down a very negative and defeating mental path, and dragging myself out of the abyss feels overwhelming.

 

So how do you do it?  How do you pull yourself up and stay positive?  I want to change my mindset and attitude; I know where I'm at now is hurting and not helping.

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How soon is too soon to try ingesting castor oil? I'm almost 39 weeks. Is that too soon? Sheepish.gif *doing research on the web*

 

Edit: *sigh* Everything I read says not to take it unless you're past your due date. Booooo. Oh well, I'm kind of still hoping for an 11/11 baby, as much as I want the baby out sooner, so I can wait. lol


Seriously, from all the stories I've heard castor oil is a very last resort.  For most women it induces stomach and intestinal cramping, nausea, possibly violent diarrhea and vomiting.  All that gastrointestinal distress causes uterine contractions, hence it's ability to induce labor.  Well, at least anecdotally... the studies do not support it.  You could try castor oil on the stomach with a warm towel over it first, though.  Oh, and that 1-3 hours a day of nipple stimulation!!  ROTFLMAO.gif

 

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So how do you do it?  How do you pull yourself up and stay positive?  I want to change my mindset and attitude; I know where I'm at now is hurting and not helping.

Honestly, one of the best things that I have found for myself is thinking of all the things that are going to negatively change once the baby is out.  As a FTM this is harder to do b/c you don't yet truly know how things will change, but you can take some educated guesses.  I know this may seem counterproductive for some b/c instead of focusing on the negative of now, I'm focusing on the negative of the future, but that negative helps me to see the positives of now and I'll deal with everything else later.   winky.gif

 

So I start out with the obvious, SLEEP.  When baby gets here I will not get more than 2-3 hour blocks of sleep for about 2 years.  That means I should really be grateful for the fact that right now I can put my kids to bed and they mostly stay there (when we're not all sick).  FREE TIME... when baby gets here I can kiss my 1-2 hours of ds' nap time goodbye.  No longer will I get to lounge on the couch and read, watch TV, eat alone, check my email, etc. during that time.  NOT NURSING... when baby gets here it's back to breastfeeding again, back to being on call for baby's food, baby's comfort, baby's everything.  That SPECIAL factor... often when you're done being pregnant there is this let down, this feeling of no longer being special.  Now the baby is special and you're just the mom- this can be hard to reconcile.  Drink in that specialness now.  DIAPERS... ugh.   WORRY... certainly there are some things that cause anxiety while pregnant, but for me, once that baby is out, it's much more pronounced- that mother worry.   Right now baby feels safe inside me, but soon I'll have another little soul to worry endlessly about.    And so on...

 

When I go through these things in my mind, I start to really feel grateful that I'm still pregnant and have some time to go.  I do fully recognize that your situation is different- you're farther along and dealing with an undesireable timeline.  But it is not outside the realm of possibility that if you start to appreciate this time you have now for all that it is and RELAX that your body will suddenly feel ready.  'Cause that's just how this works- just like parenthood- as soon as you feel comfortable and confident in one place, everything changes!  lol.gif

 

grouphug.gif Mama!  It could happen tonight!
 

 

post #180 of 1257
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How soon is too soon to try ingesting castor oil? I'm almost 39 weeks. Is that too soon? Sheepish.gif *doing research on the web*

 

Edit: *sigh* Everything I read says not to take it unless you're past your due date. Booooo. Oh well, I'm kind of still hoping for an 11/11 baby, as much as I want the baby out sooner, so I can wait. lol


RE: castor oil, Jaimee can you find any studies regarding the risks of castor oil?  I've heard (my sis is a nurse, which I don't usually put much merit in but...) that castor oil can cause baby to be in a bit of distress and release meconium.  I wouldn't do anything that would cause that, but I don't know what the risk is.   Just saying that I don't think it's one of those things that is free of negative side effects, though I do think it gets thrown around as such.  That and it seems to suck for the poor mama!

 



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Yeah, castor oil will be my last-ditch effort, my last resort before resigning myself to a hospital birth.  So I'm going to try it probably 1 or 2 days shy of 41 weeks.  I see my midwife again on Monday for my one millionth sweep; I'll probably try it next Wednesday or Thursday.  Or as early as Tuesday so DH can be around (he works Wednesday-Saturday evenings).  My midwife was adamant that castor oil needs to wait till after 40 weeks; I wouldn't want to do it at all, personally, but to me it came down to what I want less: castor oil or hospital birth?

 

Pretty bummed out today.  Thanks, ladies, for all your responses.  I'm getting a massage and acupuncture and getting out of the house to see friends, but tell me, how else do I stay positive and relaxed at this point?  Especially with this damned 41-week bull$%*t hanging over my head?  Can you share any tricks with me?  Cause I am just not there.

 

I couldn't agree more about the importance of a positive mindset and outlook.  I'm a Law-of-Attraction follower all the way, but it's VERY challenging!  I'm super hard on myself and have a tendency to go down a very negative and defeating mental path, and dragging myself out of the abyss feels overwhelming.

 

So how do you do it?  How do you pull yourself up and stay positive?  I want to change my mindset and attitude; I know where I'm at now is hurting and not helping.


 

You just have to keep telling yourself that baby will come when she is ready.  Ignore the deadline in as much as you can- just keep it out of your thought process.  You're not close to having to worry about it yet, though it might seem like it.  When you DO need to think about it (in SEVEN days, Katie.  Remember that.  You still have 7 days!), try to imagine all the positives of having a hospital birth- how can you make it the way you want?  How can you have the birth you envision in the hospital?  It IS possible, so maybe if you release the demons from hospital birthing you can be more zen about it.  And remember- you go to the hospital when YOU want to.  You don't have to be there the entire time.  Maybe just a few hours at the end of labor (and pushing).  It won't be all bad- promise!   As much as I hated the idea of my hospital induction, it truly wasn't AWFUL.  Of course there are things I would have changed, but overall we made it as good as it could be.  I imagine that if I had not been induced it could have been even better.

As far as the waiting game- set yourself up to be surprised.  Plan on having the baby in a week.  All the time between now and then is bonus.  I've said before that thinking baby was coming early only sets you up for disappointment- you're experiencing that now.  I did the same thing for my first baby.  Nobody could talk me off the ledge though, so good for you for asking for help right now!  I was a hot mess.  Crying, angry, impatient, whiny.  Looking back, it was SUCH a waste of energy and I am completely embarrassed by my behavior though I know that at the time it was SO DAMN HARD to wait.  

 

Just remember that baby is thriving- more than she ever will again- in the womb.  It is THE #1 BEST place for development.  Milk it!  She will come soon.  Trust that.  Your body knows what to do.  It's going to happen, and it's going to shock you, and believe it or not you may want to go back in time to being pregnant instead of laboring!  HAHA!  It will seem like time flew by so fast and then suddenly your baby is here.  Try to enjoy this time that you have to yourself and your DH.  Seriously.  It won't be just the two of you again for a VERY long time.  And it won't be the same.  Savor it- and, ahem, have LOTS of sex because that won't be happening for a while either!  winky.gif


 

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Seriously, from all the stories I've heard castor oil is a very last resort.  For most women it induces stomach and intestinal cramping, nausea, possibly violent diarrhea and vomiting.  All that gastrointestinal distress causes uterine contractions, hence it's ability to induce labor.  Well, at least anecdotally... the studies do not support it.  You could try castor oil on the stomach with a warm towel over it first, though.  Oh, and that 1-3 hours a day of nipple stimulation!!  ROTFLMAO.gif

 


I've read that nipple stim should be done for ten minutes each side per hour for... I can't remember the number of hours each day.  But it was important not to do it more than that because it can cause irregular and intense contractions rather than just kicking the body into labor.  Can you find studies on nipple stim too Jaimee?? :-)

 

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