Charting to Avoid/Fertilty Awareness November - Page 3

[JMJ]

Originally Posted by buterflymomma 

My temps are still ranging above my coverline. I have had some bleeding the past few days, but nothing super heavy. Kinda like a medium period. Anyway,  I thought that it was starting last night because I was getting pretty regular contractions, but then they went away again. This morning when I went to the bathroom, the bleeding had stopped. I am talking NOTHING on the TP or my pad. What the heck is going on here? Is it possible I already miscarried without all the pain and bleeding I have been told to expect? I have an appointment with my OB tomorrow afternoon. He is going to check and see what's happening. I am just thoroughly confused now.

It's possible that was it, though if I had to guess, I would guess that it's not over yet.  Sometimes, it takes time.

[kat216]

Butterflymomma

I'm on CD9 of my first cycle off Nuvaring. This is kind of exciting, haha! The first few days after AF I wasn't sure about my CM--it didn't seem to match the descriptions in the book, if that makes any sense, but now it seems to be genuinely sticky. Still getting the hang of these things!

I'll try to change my TCOYF chart to public and post it here in a bit.

[buterflymomma]

Thanks Kat. I appreciate the hug

JMJ~ You were right. I have started bleeding red again, so I guess things aren't quite over yet. Honestly though I don't know how much longer I can go through this uncertainty. This week has been so physically and emotionally exhausting, I just want it over. I really thought that once I started bleeding things would happen quick, not be this drawn out and slow. This is so tough.

[pregnova]

butterflymomma- I completely sympathize. For the few days after the one night where I passed large clots, and presumably had the actual 'miscarriage' I did experience intermittent contractions for brief periods of time that normally resulted in the passing of another large clot and some more blood than usual. By that point, I was actively trying to get things going and just get it over with already, so whenever I would notice contractions, I would make a point of keeping about my activities or even being MORE physical hoping that it would work similar to labor and get things going to go ahead and complete everything. It was painful during those times, but after about three days, I had no more cramping, contractions or passing of large clots and felt TOTALLY back to normal as far as energy ect... I hope your OB visit provides you with some answers!

Kat- I'll be in the same boat as you soon enough! lol, I'm looking SO forward to starting a chart that makes any sense. lol

[kat216]

Kat- I'll be in the same boat as you soon enough! lol, I'm looking SO forward to starting a chart that makes any sense. lol

Yep, that was so me last month! I did a whole month of "charting" while still on the ring, just to get used to temping every morning. I'm looking forward to temps that actually mean something!

[JMJ]

Butterflymomma, have you posted in the pregnancy and birth loss forum?  I wonder if it would help you to get support there.  I know miscarriages aren't all the same, but maybe it would help to hear from some other women who have gone through what you're going through.  Thanks for sharing your experience, pregnova.

[buterflymomma]

JMJ- I probably should, but I just feel comfortable here. I'm sorry I keep bringing it up. I know this isn't really the place for it. Hopefully tomorrow at my OB appointment I will get more answers and can get back to my regular charting questions.

[JMJ]

Butterflymomma, it's not a problem to keep bringing it up here.  I also feel a lot of support here, so I keep hanging around even though I'm half way through a pregnancy and won't likely be CTA for about 2 years if things go the same as they did last time.  We're just more limited here in our knowledge of miscarriages (though many here have experienced them), and you'd get a greater range of knowledge and experiences in that forum.  I'm not trying to push you off onto somebody else.  Feel free to post whatever you find helpful here, and you have our support, but that could be another resource for you that I know has helped many other mourning mothers.  Hugs.  You continue to be in my thoughts and prayers.

[buterflymomma]

JMJ~ I have lurked over there a bit, but don't feel comfortable sharing. I actually found Pregnova's post on her experience and it helped me out a lot. I go in to my OB today at 3:15p, so will have more answers then.  BTW I had no idea you were expecting, Congrats!!  Also,I am glad you have stuck around. You are a wealth of knowledge and have helped myself and many others with this charting thing!

[JMJ]

Butterflymomma, thanks for the congrats.  How did your appointment go yesterday?

[buterflymomma]

Originally Posted by JMJ 

Butterflymomma, thanks for the congrats.  How did your appointment go yesterday?

JMJ~ Thanks for asking.  I ended up passing the baby late morning before my appointment. I was relieved that it happened before because I think my OB would have insisted on my taking the medicine to speed things along. It went very well considering. Everything came out in one piece which my OB said was the best possible outcome. After looking at my u/s he said that I won't need a D&C . The only thing left is the lining which I will need to shed. He also said that I should bleed around two more weeks, but it will get lighter with each passing day.

We plan on burying the baby and planting a tree in the backyard. I just couldn't bring myself to flush it or throw it out with the trash. It is still our baby after all. I am hoping that this will help to bring us closure. This has been a very heartbreaking and emotional experience for us as I am sure it is for anyone who has had to go through a loss.

My temp finally dropped below my coverline this morning. Not surprising since the miscarriage completed yesterday. We are still going to CTA and plan on being way more careful than we have been in the past. My body needs time to heal and we really want a bit more spacing between our youngest and a new baby. She needs time to be the baby. I also want to lose some weight before TTC again. I am hoping that if I lose 20% or more of my weight and become more active, I won't get GD again. With all that in mind the soonest we want to TTC again is summer of 2012. This means I will have lots of time to become a FAM pro....lol.

[physics girl]

Hugs to Buterflymomma. So sorry for your loss; this must be incredibly difficult for you and your family.

[JMJ]

Hugs butterflymomma.  I'm glad to hear that you were able to let things happen naturally and that you are finding a way to mourn your lost child.  It's not uncommon to ovulate quite soon after a miscarriage, and the bleeding could obscure your fertility signs.  You are unlikely to conceive while the bleeding is very heavy, but when it starts to lighten, it might be wise to consider yourself potentially fertile this time around.

[LionessMom]

butterflymama- i am so sorry. i think burying the baby and planting a tree is a wonderful idea. <<hugs>> i am relieved to here that you are ok and dont need a d&c. i was worried about you.

[pregnova]

ButterflyMomma- 

[buterflymomma]

Thank you ladies. I really have appreciated the support you have all shown here throughout this heartbreaking journey of mine. This experience was quite different from my previous loss because I was a lot farther along this time around. My loss last year was very early (5.5 weeks). Anyway, it is an experience I won't soon forget and hope not to go through again.

JMJ~ Thanks for letting me know about being potentially fertile sooner than I would expect. I plan on having my husband use protection every time until I get my first AF back and have a clear thermal shift.

[pregnova]

So, I couldn't stand the suspense any longer and took my first temp today! lol http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/38cbc5

98.48...which seems high to me when I look at other charts. I chose to temp vaginally as I do tend to sleep with my mouth open a bit. 

Anyway, excited to be temping! lol It'd be nice if this allows me some notice before AF arrives...since I have ZERO idea when that will be...

[Cassiani]

Greetings-

I was talking to a friend earlier who is currently CTA and in lactation amenorrhea, about how hard it is to chart while breastfeeding.  And how it's not fair that I'm on my first cycle since my 4th little one was born.  She is now 6 months old, my cycle has returned (25 days after I started charted temps, CM and CP), and we were both nodding madly over the fact that we need more support with charting to avoid.  And then I realized that I had seen this page on mothering, and then got an email reminding me you are here.  

So was hoping to join in the discussions here.  I'm trying to avoid for a couple of years, but my cycles have ranged from 30 to 60 days in the past, and it's been challenging to know how to deal with it.  My last 2 pregnancies were conceived on days 33 and 35 of my cycle, which was a little hard for the husband to believe possible, and I want to try and avoid for a couple of years at least.

I have a 5 1/2 year old son, 3 1/2 year old daughter, 2 year old daughter, and 6 month old daughter.  I was 'infertile' for years (gluten-intolerance) and found out I wasn't anymore by having a miscarriage.  I'm a stay-at-home mom, exclusively breastfeeding on demand, and live on a beautiful beach in Massachusetts.

Just dropping in to say hi, thanks for having this here!

Cassi

[buterflymomma]

Originally Posted by Cassiani 

Greetings-

I was talking to a friend earlier who is currently CTA and in lactation amenorrhea, about how hard it is to chart while breastfeeding.  And how it's not fair that I'm on my first cycle since my 4th little one was born.  She is now 6 months old, my cycle has returned (25 days after I started charted temps, CM and CP), and we were both nodding madly over the fact that we need more support with charting to avoid.  And then I realized that I had seen this page on mothering, and then got an email reminding me you are here.  

So was hoping to join in the discussions here.  I'm trying to avoid for a couple of years, but my cycles have ranged from 30 to 60 days in the past, and it's been challenging to know how to deal with it.  My last 2 pregnancies were conceived on days 33 and 35 of my cycle, which was a little hard for the husband to believe possible, and I want to try and avoid for a couple of years at least.

I have a 5 1/2 year old son, 3 1/2 year old daughter, 2 year old daughter, and 6 month old daughter.  I was 'infertile' for years (gluten-intolerance) and found out I wasn't anymore by having a miscarriage.  I'm a stay-at-home mom, exclusively breastfeeding on demand, and live on a beautiful beach in Massachusetts.

Just dropping in to say hi, thanks for having this here!

Cassi

Welcome! There is a lot of support her from awesome ladies!  I have a 4 kids too!  Your children are around the same age as mine and in the same order. How funny. I have a  6yo son, 3.5yo daughter, 2yo, daughter and 6 month old daughter. I am also a SAHM.

[pregnova]

Welcome! I'm intrigued by your mention of gluten intolerance and infertility?! I'm a TOTAL newbie at this, so please excuse my total lack of knowledge on these things, but that's crazy! I'm guessing you just figured out you were gluten intolerant, adjusted diet and then found you were able to conceive? I had no idea a thing like that could affect your fertility. 

So, today, I'm having spotting. Which...is random...and since I have zero cramping at all, I'm actually weirded out if this becomes heavier and turns into AF. For the moment, it's super light, literally nothing on even a pantyliner, but there when I wipe. Anyway, lol, I'm sure it'll become more clear what's going on in a few hours.