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Breech baby

post #1 of 37
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so, long story.  I was a belly model yesterday and had my 38 week midwife appt on wednesday.  At the MW appt my student midwife confirmed LOT position and my midwife palpated just briefly because I asked her about a size estimate.  Two weeks ago (36 weeks) she had done a cervical exam to confirm cephalic presentation (she was still unsure) because she thought his "butt" seemed awfully wiggly.  I had never been convinced that he was anything BUT head down because I feel hiccups down low.  

He hasn't gotten hiccups in a while.... or at least I haven't felt them.  

So anyway, when I was a belly model the students had a tough time figuring position- normal, right?  The teachers also kept coming over and palpating and checking for heart tones.  I thought this was weird but just thought they were really interested in my baby (they weren't doing this to other models.)  One teacher asked who my mw was, when i last saw her, where i feel movement, etc.  Normal questions. I thought nothing of it.  

Well the teacher knows my midwife and called her today to tell her that she was not convinced that my baby was head-down.  So my MW asked me to quickly stop in and she would palpate to confirm, just in case I got into labor before our next appt.  I thought there was NO WAY he was breech, I was just so sure of it.  So I thought it was silly but I went in, and she immediately confirmed breech presentation.  Even now I can feel that his head (by my ribs) is quite wiggly.  Definitely not a butt.

 

So she went over my options- moxi, acupuncture, webster, a version right there in the MW office, or to go to a clinic with u/s to have a version done there so we could confirm cord and placenta position.  We opted for the version with ultrasound.  She thinks he'd be easy to move, he has lots of room, and was in an oblique lie anyway.  So now we have our version scheduled for next wednesday.  

I feel pretty frustrated and defeated.  This pregnancy has a laundry list of issues (GD, GBS, breech, SPD...) and I am just at my wit's end with all these extra appointments (chiro, nutritionist, maternal-fetal medicine, and now a version and possibly more things like acupuncture and moxi...)  It's getting expensive too!  Some things I have to pay out of pocket for.  This is just getting outrageous.  I want some downtime and some extra money :-(

 

I also, of course, am concerned about all the other what-ifs.  What if he flips back?  What if I go into labor before?  What if he won't turn?  My options are good here in Oregon because I can find a homebirth midwife who will deliver breech, but my DH and I aren't terribly comfortable with that.  I also don't want to lose my MW- but she has zero breech experience.  I could also birth in a number of local hospitals- they do vaginal breech if the presentation is butt-first, but it will mean I am laboring in an operating room prepped for an emergency c-section.  

I wasn't expecting this at all.  I'm 38 weeks, we just finished most of our nesting yesterday, and I was in such a great mood because I thought we were just going to coast until we had the baby.  

Please turn, baby.  Please!

post #2 of 37

hug2.gif I hope everything works out and he flips around like he's supposed to!  If not, my midwives will do breech homebirths.  They are a very small operation, I know them well and I'm sure that they'd be willing to help.  Keep us updated!
 

post #3 of 37

goodvibes.gif Turning vibes!

post #4 of 37

Oh my gosh, I am sending you so many head-down vibes it's nuts.  I'm so sorry you have to deal with all these extra treatments and complications.  No fair!  This guy better be the easiest baby on the planet to make up for all he's put you through already.

 

Let us know how it goes.  I know how frustrated you must feel.  hug2.gif

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goodvibes.gif Turning vibes!



Hopefully baby will turn!!!!!!!!!

post #6 of 37
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Thanks everyone!  I'm about to do some crazy inversions on my couch.  heh.  

post #7 of 37

hug2.gif  Good luck with the inversions!  I had good success with a chiropractor that did Webster.  You have made it this far, and no matter what you WILL get your healthy baby.  Im sorry your having the added stress!

post #8 of 37
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hug2.gif  Good luck with the inversions!  I had good success with a chiropractor that did Webster.  You have made it this far, and no matter what you WILL get your healthy baby.  Im sorry your having the added stress!



Ditto this!  I talked to my chiropractor and he's had an 80% success rate turning breech babies using Webster.  Hopefully your chiro can help you out in that department!  Sounds like your midwife was pretty optimistic about the baby's ability to turn, considering the amount of room he still has.  I have a good feeling baby will be head-down in time for labor!

post #9 of 37

I hope baby turns for you!!! hug2.gif

post #10 of 37
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Well it seems that my first attempt at an inversion was only successful in getting baby REALLY high in my abdomen and rib cage.  I went to bed VERY uncomfortable with a lot of nausea and heartburn.  It felt like my ribcage was being forcefully expanded and I had a really hard time getting comfortable.  Ugh.  

This morning I'm all tied in knots over all of this.  Part of me doesn't want to worry about it until Wednesday when I have my version.  But even then I wonder if it will be effective because the success rates are only about 58% and that's usually before 37 weeks... I'll be 39 on Wednesday.  So I want to do more inversions but it made me so uncomfortable!  Maybe I can just stick to doing them early in the day, not before bed.  If baby *does* turn here at home I am hoping he'll finally drop (it all makes sense now, why he hasn't dropped, why I still have killer heartburn, etc.).  I'm hoping (silver lining) that at least he isn't putting really good pressure on my cervix so I likely won't be going into labor before Wednesday. 

 

I watched a few videos of external versions and oh my.... It had me squirming.  There's just something so wrong with pushing on a pregnant belly like that!  Gotta do what I gotta do, though.  If it doesn't work I will try moxi and such, but I am most comfortable trying to turn him either by his own power or with ultrasound to check on the cord.  I'm trying to find a balance between respecting MY body (and my desire to have a natural vaginal birth) and BABY's body- maybe there is a reason he is breech?  Cord issue?  A problem because of my GD?  Who knows.  Having the ultrasound will definitely help put me at ease.  

 

Sigh.  I'm all tied in knots and I can't stop worrying.  help.gif

post #11 of 37

I'm sorry, J. grouphug.gif I hope the baby turns! My midwife told me that she's had babies turn from head down an entire pregnancy to breech literally right before the mothers went into labor and they've still had luck externally turning the baby at the last minute. Even during labor! I have faith that you can turn your baby, especially with all of the time you still have left! thumb.gif You can do it!

post #12 of 37

I'm so sorry J!!  You do not need more stress right now, especially after all you've been through with this pregnancy!  You've been such a trooper and this pregnancy just keeps throwing things at you!  I really hope that version works, but you're right there is a chance that he could flip back.  I have had a few friends who got versions.  One said she was so glad that she was already in labor and had an epidural b/c she could still feel it and it was awful.  The other friend said it was no big deal at all!  So I think it totally depends on what you've got going on in there fluid wise, baby wise, muscle soreness wise, etc.  I think it is a good plan to do the u/s if you're doing the version to make sure it's not a mechanical issue with the cord.  Things like moxi, supposedly, will NOT turn baby if there is a mechanical issue.  The other plus with moxi is that you should be able to repeat the procedure at home as many times as necessary to keep him turned- even in labor.  Keep us posted!!!

post #13 of 37
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Whew, thanks Joanie and Jaimee!  It seems like such a long wait between now and Wednesday... I am just a wreck over it!  I can't stop thinking about it.  I'm glad there are lots of options left, I just hope everything turns out okay....  It seems like every pregnancy complication that has a fairly low risk of happening is happening to me.  It's frustrating!  I don't want to be the 3%, you know?!  But here I am.  irked.gif

post #14 of 37

Hope your baby turns so that you have no more worries.  My first baby was frank breech and the external version was unsuccessful for us because his buttocks were already settled into my pelvis.  It was a painful experience, but I have no regrets.  It was worth trying.

 

Try not to worry too much.  You still have time for baby to turn on his own and if not, there is still a good chance the version will work.

 

Hang in there.hug2.gif

post #15 of 37
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Whew, thanks Joanie and Jaimee!  It seems like such a long wait between now and Wednesday... I am just a wreck over it!  I can't stop thinking about it.  I'm glad there are lots of options left, I just hope everything turns out okay....  It seems like every pregnancy complication that has a fairly low risk of happening is happening to me.  It's frustrating!  I don't want to be the 3%, you know?!  But here I am.  irked.gif



I'm sorry you have to deal with this! hug2.gif Hopefully, your chances of going into labor at 39 weeks are slim... I'd think so since your ds was quite late. Just try to relax the best that you can. We will all be here for you!

post #16 of 37
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Going in for moxibustion this afternoon!!  WOOOHOO!  Turn baby turn!

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Going in for moxibustion this afternoon!!  WOOOHOO!  Turn baby turn!



Fingers crossed for you, mama!

 

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Going in for moxibustion this afternoon!!  WOOOHOO!  Turn baby turn!



Yay good luck!  I'm sending baby turning vibes!

post #19 of 37

Turn baby!
 

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Going in for moxibustion this afternoon!!  WOOOHOO!  Turn baby turn!



 

post #20 of 37

Yay!  Can't wait to hear how it goes!  Make sure to request a stick to take home and bring your dh with you so he can learn how to do it!!  Good luck and turn, baby, turn!!

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