Originally Posted by minkin03
I agree, it's totally her own assessment that she is the best reader and she is 5 so that has to be taken with a grain of salt. LOL
There are only 2 others in her reading group and I have noticed the majority of the kids are still learning letter sounds. I volunteer once a week and do activities with them and they still can't pick a word out of a sentence. For instance if I ask them to point to the word star out of the sentence 'twinkle twinkle little star'. I'm just really surprised b/c while I do think she is advanced with reading I just assumed there would more kids reading at her level and above. Maybe I just read this forum too much and expect that there are more kids out there reading at a 3-5th grade level than there really are.
What are the age range and demographics you are in?
I only ask because we have moved around a lot in the past year. My girls would be in K in 80% of the states, but are in 1st (having skipped K due to a move) due to the late age cut-off in the current state (they just turned 6 in Oct). So in most areas they would be in K and stick out like a sore thumb since they are reading Rainbow Magic Books (DRA 24-30), but in 1st they have some peers that are at the same level.
In the last state we were in: most if not all kiddos were 5.5 at the start of all day K, redshirting was high and early entry non-existant. Most of the kids in my DDs preschool class had words/letter sounds down pat (they were ages 4-5, a preK class) and out of 20 : one or two were fluent readers, two or three were emergent readers and likewise about 2 or 3 had no idea of letter sounds/letters---the rest were somewhere in the middle. I toured out local K and they stated that many kiddos upon K entry had basic reading skills in place and were 'reading' by the holiday break. They had a set group of K kiddos already formed that my girls would have joined that were reading at 2nd grade or higher. They had GT programming starting with pull-out in K. State had free Preschool for ALL kids, so many if not all kids that would attend public school had prek experience.
In my girls 1st grade class: ages range from 7y 4-6 months to newly 6. personal observations ( so completely approximating based on my own observations and prior teaching experience) put that out of 22 kids.....4 or so are reading at 2nd grade or higher (DRA 18+) , 2 or so are K level or lower (below DRA 3), 8 or so are at grade level right on ( DRA 5-7) and the rest (8 or so) fall between DRA 7-18 (mid to late 1st).
In current state: My kids are among the youngest, starting 1st at age 5y9m. We had them assessed for K placement (based on non having been) or 1st (age for here). The assessor stated that they could not service them in K academically and they were likely reading at late 2nd when assessed at 5.5 y . The K programs here are 1/2 day and a full quarter of kiddos are still 4 or newly 5 upon school starting. They do offer a JK program for 'young fives' that is popular, but you can only participate if your child qualifies.The classrooms learn letter/letter sounds and only a handful of kiddos across the 3 K classes are reading upon entry. A few had no 'school' experiences prior to K.
Both areas are higher socio-economic areas and award winning schools, both had high ESL populations. So the difference???
The program itself. You will likely find that your demographics and curriculum have a big impact on what K looks like....the age of kids, the background (have they done prek?), the day length, GT access, curriculum, etc.
Also a 5 yr old reading at a 2nd grade level is vastly different statistically (and on standardized testing) than an almost 7y old even if they are in the same grade. That 18 month age spread is actually very big since most kids learn to read during that time. An almost 7 yr old would be via the testing 'slightly above grade level', since on most standardized tests (since an older 6 yr old or early 7 would likely be in late 1st grade statistically speaking), but if that child was in a K class would look 'advanced'. Likewise a young 5 yr old would be considered 'far above grade level' (since they likely would be preschool or early early K on standardized test age grouping).Even if they both were in the same grade (1st or K). Standardized testing is age based, so it behooves parents and teachers to recall that when looking at scores. Does that make sense? So if you have a 'young' class or an 'older' class it may present differently when looking merely at DRA levels and grade. Age , though should not be a reason for sending or holding a kiddo early/late to school, is a factor in standardized testing and should be considered on a one-on-one basis when looking at where a kiddo truly is (vs grade).
Many kiddos on this board (though not all) are 'young' for grade or accelerated or have parents that advocated for early placement so the comparison is skewed even more than usual! A 4 turning 5 yr old walking into K reading a chapter book is vastly different than the 6.5 yr old that walks in reading the same book (in my area a 6.5 yr old could be FINISHING 1st grade-- where in some areas the same child might be s STARTING Kindergarten). This will impact what your DDs classroom looks like.
You are likely , as the year, goes on to see a big jump in some of your DDs peers reading. I've seen kiddos go from a 3 DRA to 12/14 fairly quickly since once they 'get' the code it is more a matter of practice and building vocab and fluency.
Below is a good chart to see reading DRA and guided reading levels if you want to see where levels fall.