Winter IVF Thread : Bring on the BFPs! - Page 51

[Silverbird]

Gale: Thats a fab number of embies! How work goes OK and there is good news on your embies.  I haven’t actually talked to my re about the results.  I a test four months ago to prepare for IVF then sent of the results to see how I’d done.  I might talk to the re though I’m not sure how knowledgeable she is about vitamins.

Blue: I know I’ve been worrying about my lack of symptoms but see my AFM! Glad you’ve not had chest pains and I hope AF stops mucking you about!

Renavoo: yes they use hair for drug tests too because it shows levels over time.  Hope you and the babies are good.

Belly: It does leave me with a quandary because I have foresight saying that low zinc can cause miscarriage and other sources saying high levels of zinc can damage the foetus.  So I think I’ll lower it for tww and see from there.  Hope you’re doing well.

Rcr: I forgot to say that the thing foresight do which is cheeky is not tell you supplement with x mgs but take x of our vitamin tablets and then not give the levels in their tablets on the website.   I’ve saved the bottles from the vits I brought so if you want to get it done I can tell you what your results equate to in mgs etc if you want to choose the best value place for your vits.  They also give you unwanted dating advise if your using donor sperm which is even more of a check when you think most people using donor sperm are in couples!

AFM: All looking good at my scan.  Lining looks good.  6 follicles at 13mm and three other small ones.  I’ll continue my drugs and have a new scan when they’ll tell we if ec is mon, tue or wed.  My ovary is still high so I may be looking at some star jumps! I’m really pleased because with my luck I was worried I’d be out before the first hurdle due to not responding but all is good.

[Kewpie80]

Silver - I'm glad things are looking good!  I'm rooting for you!

[Silverbird]

Kewpie: thanks, your little one is gorgeous!

[rcr]

I am out of town, and I gotta run so I am making this quick.

Gale - yay for great fertilization results.

Silver - my first scan showed 9 too. Great number!

Blue - ugh to the AF weirdness.

[auraleigh]

and i'm out...

this morning had a little brown spotting.  convinced myself it was implantation spotting as i had never seen brown spotting ever.  by 10am it was pink spotting and i cried hysterically in the bathroom at work.  then it slowed and i once again convinced myself that perhaps i was't out quite yet.  and by one it was my period.  i called my dr, because i was really surprised.  this is only 10dpiui.  i've always had at least 28-30 day cycles, but for some reason my period came crazy early.  during my last ivf i managed to get my period through the progesterone.  of course.

i called the re's office and the nurse with no tact said to "wait and see".  she claims that just the day before someone called because she was convinced she had her period and then came in the next day for a blood test and wound up being pregnant.  while i like her optimism, i just got my period, have the WORST cramps, and am supremely depressed.  don't tell me that maybe there is a chance when i know there is no chance.  i'm home now, going to cry it out, and then i have to suck it up and go food shopping as i have 50 people coming for a party on  saturday and that's overwhelming enough without dealing with all this. 

so sad.

[rcr]

Aura I am sorry.

[auraleigh]

thanks rcr, i think i'm over the personal pity party.  still frustrated though.  most frustrated by my friends that keep telling me how it's been less than a year and it took them six months of trying to get pregnant!  just having sex and getting pregnant DOES. NOT. COUNT.  if that was the case, it's taken me 4.5 years.  grrrr.  i don't mean to get incensed by their comments since i know they are trying to be reassuring, but i feel like it discounts my feelings.  that it belittles the severity of my situation, and that the pain and heartache, surgeries, medications, hormones, shots, pain, catheters, 7am ultrasounds and bfns are the same as just having sex and hoping for the best.  

*sigh*.  i'd like to hear what my dr has to say.  i'm 19.5 pounds down, which obviously wasn't either enough, or a factor in why i can't get pregnant.  i am going to try to lose 10 more before i try ivf again.  maybe i can try another iui in the mean time.  however if that ivf doesn't work i may have to try to get a second opinion.  i love my clinic, i appreciate the drs, they give me all the info i ask for, but there has to be something else i can do.  

[blueyezz4]

Aura - Crap!!!!!  I'm so sorry!!!!  This is all so not fair!!  Have you had any immune testing done (natural killer cells, implantation issues, and the DQ alpha for you and your DH)  Just throwing ideas out there for you wondering if you are maybe having the same kind of issue we are possibly???  I like your idea of maybe getting a second opinion.  Sending lots of hugs your way!!!

rcr - hope you are out of town for something fun!!!!!

Kewpie - love the new profile pic.  is that Liam??  Cute, whoever it is!!!

Silver - nice report!!!!  Keep up the good work. How are you feeling cold wise???  Hope that is better too!!

Gale - how are things??  Any more reports? Good luck!!!

AFM - AF finally decided to grace us w/ her presence today for sure!!!!!  After like 54 days she finally decided to show her ugly face!!!  I go tomorrow for my E2 draw before work and I hope to lower my dose of Lupron and i think will start prednisone here soon too.  I'm hoping to hear from the nurse about the plan and a possible date tomorrow afternoon.

[Vegan Princess]

Aura: Big hugs!!! 

Blue: Yay for AF! Finally!

Cindy

[renavoo]

Aura,  You're doing everything you can and one day, you WILL get pregnant. I think most people who haven't been through infertility don't understand the pain and heartache that comes from it. I hope that your RE can give you some answers as to what to do next.  Perhaps there are other tests that they can do to help figure something out. May, as Blue says, some of the immune testing could be done, if you haven't done them already. Whenever I think about this, i get so angry though...in school, they made it sound like we sleep with a person ONCE and we'll be pregnant. Now, we're all struggling to get that way. So frustrating!

Blue, yah that AF finally came! I'm so happy things are finally moving for you. Can't wait to hear about the test results.

Silver, yah to great scan results! It makes all the shots worth it, doesn't it? Now, you just need the BFP and soon to be baby in your arms :oD

Rcr, let us know how you're doing too, when you have a chance.

Praying and Gale, thinking of you!

hope everyone else is doing well! Waiting for some more BFPs to celebrate :oD

[Kewpie80]

Aura - I'm so sorry.  You are completely justified in your feelings.  I always hated the stupid comments from people who didn't understand what it was like to hope and wait for years.  My SIL was the worst.  She'd complain that it took her more than a month of trying.  I'm like, yeah, That's not the same as 12 years, so don't try to claim you understand.  Not to mention she didn't have to go through any treatments.  It's about as bad as the stories of people who "just adopted" and got pregnant or "just relaxed."  No amount of relaxation or adoption is going to help me, so just shut up is what I was always thinking.  If that did work, no one would ever have to do IVF.  People just don't think before they open their mouths. Just know that we all understand all too well and you can vent to us all you need.  Infertility sucks.  There's no other way to put it. (at least not in clean language) :)  

Blue - Thanks.  yeah, that's Liam.  

[hope4light]

Hello All!

I've been lurking on the IVF thread since I joined back up, and posting mainly on the ONE thread.  We have moderatly severe MFI, so we have to do IVF with ICSI.  We had been having a hard time finding a doc that we liked (after moving from where our clinic was when we did IVF back in 2007/2008).  Well, we found one today.  Woo Hoo!  AF should be joining me anyday now, then this cycle we'll do an HSG and then start Lupron.  So, I'm joining you!!

I won't get caught up on everyone, it's so much to go back through.  So congrats to all with the BFP's and baby dust to those that haven't gotten theirs yet. 

Aura - I'm so sorry about the BFN.  IF sucks, and like PP said, if they haven't been there, they don't get it.  Big Hugs.

[GaleTX]

Aura: So sorry to hear your news.  Sending hugs your way.

AFM:  Transfer went well.  They transferred two embryos - one was an 8A and one was an 8B.  It's looking like I'll have 14 or so to freeze, but they won't know until day 5.  Now it's bedrest for 48 hours, Progesterone and Estradiol levels checked in 7 days and beta in 14 days.  Thanks for all your kind words!

[BellyBean]

Aura,  I am so sorry AF showed.  It's just not fair  and people can be so insensitive (sometimes without knowing it).  Does your RE think your weight is an issue with IVF or IUI?  It seems like they control the cycles so much with drugs that it really shouldn't matter (but I am not an expert at all!).  I honestly don't think a second opinion could hurt, for us, it was the start of a successful cycle.  I am so sorry this past IUI didn't work...I wish there was something I could do to make the hurt go away.  

Gale, congrats on your transfer!  Sounds like 2 nice embies made their way home!  Fingers crossed for a BFP to follow!

hope4light, welcome!  Glad to hear you found a new clinic that you like! 

[auraleigh]

belly,  she thinks that maybe losing weight can help.  i'm young, and other than the pcos, i am relatively healthy and in good shape.  i exercise, i eat healthy.... i am just heavier than i "should" be.  since we are using donor sperm, and since i'm responding to the drugs, they aren't sure what's happening.  so they think maybe losing weight will help counter the pcos and regulate my hormones more.

blue, we don't necessarily think it's nk cells or anything... my issue is that my eggs all arrest after a few days.  i can't get pregnant.  whether or not i could carry a baby to term is a whole other issue.  but my eggs will fertilize, and then they just stop growing.  in two ivf cycles, with a total of 43 eggs, nothing made it past 7 cells in the lab (they were put in me at that point, so i'm not sure at what exact point they stop).  i've never seen a blastocyst.  or a morula.  or a non fragmented embryo.  :(

thanks for the kind words ladies.  i had to get the anger out, and now i'm back to trying to stay relaxed.  i'm going in tomorrow morning for baseline and bw, so we will see what the dr has to say.  perhaps another stim cycle iui?  i'm not ready for ivf again... i feel like we would just have a repeat of the first and second time.  i'd like more information.  i specifically asked my RE last time if she thought i could take something to improve my egg quality, like dhea or royal jelly or anything... and her response was "nope".  she's a firm believer that if i lose another 10 lbs i should see success.  she claims she's had patients like me who had no real reason for infertility, and they lost weight and got pregnant immediately.  i've lost 20 already, what's another 10?  i feel great, on the plus side, so it can't hurt.  now that i've been on the metformin for four months, losing weight is much easier.  MUCH easier.  i think it's funny though that she thinks this is what is messing up my hormones.  i've seen women on tv that are 300 lbs and can have babies, but this is my hurdle?  hopefully she's right.  at least it's something i have control over.  

[renavoo]

Aura, isn't it awful to always be wondering why you can't get pregnant? I still go through periods (mostly when looking at the bills from last year!) when I wonder why the heck I had so much trouble getting pregnant. I mean, all my tests and DH's tests came back fine. And when we went in for an US scan after getting pregnant, the sonographer even mentioned that my ovaries looked "young" and she was surprised that I went through IVF. Ugh.

I think that losing weight is a great thing and you must be so proud. i will be looking for pointers from you in the future. ;o) But I also know how frustrated you must be because people of all sizes can get pregnant without going through the hurdles. Well, we're with you anyway and cheering you on!

Gale, YAH for a successful transfer! And to have possibly 14 snow babies! 11 more days in your 2ww. When do you test?

Hope4light, good luck with your HSG. There's also a belief (I don't know if proven though) that for a couple of months after an hsg, you're more likely to conceive because hsgs are like clearing the tubes. haha i don't think it matters with IVF since the eggs don't travel but, hey, any hope counts.

[Silverbird]

Rcr: thanks I’m pleased especially as it’s from one ovary.

Aura:  I’m so sorry to hear your news and so sorry it wasn’t sensitively handled. Well done with all the weight loss!

Blue: so glad af finally showed up! Thanks I’m feeling loads better now and hardly coughing at all.

Renavoo: thanks I’m very relieved.

Kewpie: My understanding is that the no of people who conceive after adopting is the same as the no of people who conceive after finishing treatment.   So it’s nothing to do with relaxing, it’s just that some people will get there by chance anyway.

Hope4light: Welcome and good luck!

Gale: great news enjoy your tww!

AFM: More good news from my scan I have one 16.5mm follie, two 16.5mm follies, two 17.5mm follies, one 19mm and a few small ones.  Egg collection is booked for Monday!

[Vegan Princess]

Silver: Monday!! So exciting!!!! Yay. :-)

Gale: Congrats on being pupo!! Why did they choose a 3 day transfer with so many embies? Are they waiting until blast to freeze them? When will you start testing? :-)

Cindy

[GaleTX]

Vegan:  My RE only does three-day transfers unless there is some compelling reason to wait five days.  He says extensive research has been done showing there is no increase in the likelihood of pregnancy with five-day transfers if the infertility is unexplained.  They do three days because he says he has seen too many people end up with no embryos by waiting for a five-day transfer.  I'm  sure every RE has their own opinion on it and that particular one is just his.  I figure he and his partner have been doing IVF for 25 years, so I'm going to go with their recomendations!

Any of the embryos that were more than three cells yesterday will be grown until day 5, then re-graded and the ones that make the cut will be frozen.  We had one that was three cell and one that was two cell, so they discarded those yesterday and we have potentially 14 to freeze.  I'm not sure when/if I'll test.  I'm probably kidding myself thinking I'll be able to hold out for the beta, but I'd like to pretend at this point that I'll wait! ;)

[Vegan Princess]

Gale: Interesting. My preg is from a 3 day transfer. :-) It just seems so rare these days to hear of REs not waiting. But many will agree that the best place for an embie is back in you. 

Cindy