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post #1 of 37
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Thoughts from experienced moms on diaper options? Cloth diapers? Cloth inserts? Diaper service? Disposable? Quality of "eco friendly" disposables (like Seventh Generation, etc.)?

 

So many options! So many factors to consider!

 

 

post #2 of 37

We will use cloth.  I've seen actual burns (not diaper rash) from the chemicals in disposable diapers, so no way will I put one of those on my baby.  Once you get a system down, it's not any more complicated than using disposables.  It doesn't take that much time or effort at all.  All In Ones (AIOs) are great, and so are pocket diapers.  There's a CD forum here at Mothering.  Check it out if you haven't already.

 

As for the "natural" disposable diapers, IME (with kids at work) they're not very good at keeping messes contained.  Lots and lots of blowouts with those.  That's pretty much all I know about them though.

 

ETA:  This is an interesting blog entry about the burns caused by disposable diapers.  http://www.drmomma.org/2010/06/it-hurts-down-there-lesson-in.html

post #3 of 37

We use pocket diapers during the day and one disposable at night. We used disposables for the first month full time, then switched to pre-folds with covers, then to the pockets once she was a little bigger and needing a change less than once an hour!

 

When we're feeling more flush or traveling and using lots of disposables, we spring for Earth's Best disposables. I think they have more natural ingredients and less nasty chemicals, They're stiffer than the regular disposables, but they seem to absorb and hold leaks just as well.

post #4 of 37

I'm excited to see how others respond to this post.  This is our first baby and I plan to use cloth diapers, but I'm nervous and other people have suggested that they have an expectation that I will fail and end up using disposable anyway.  I'd love to hear people's thoughts on this topic.

post #5 of 37

I just looked up the history of diapers, the word itself is from 16th century. Some peoples have used "disposables" for ages - in some places, northern indigenous disposable "diaper" was sphagnum moss. European mainstream disposables started to show up in 1950s, I think.

 

Did people fail to drink before Coca-Cola? did they fail to eat before microwaveable dinners? "Fail" - what nonsense. You could decide that you like disposables better, and use them. Or you could decide to use cloth only. Do it for yourself, not for other people, whose opinion should not matter anyway. If you set out to prove them wrong, you give them power over you. 

 

I was all set on using cloth diapers (even though I was thinking wistfully about the convenience of disposables). When I was a baby, my mom used cloth diapers and I still had occasional rashes, and when she tried to add an outside waterproof liner, it resulted in a horrible rash. She said I had very sensitive skin, and if my kids have the same sensitivity, disposables won't work. This is why I pretty much always thought I would use cloth diapers for my kids.

 

My husband always thought we'd use disposables, even though I tried to explain the "sensitive skin" theory. Then I showed him a photo of a disposable, and he said "wow, it's all plastic! I thought it would be cotton and fluffy and soft!" ROTFLMAO.gif

 

We also learned that diapers can be changed 10-15 times a day... whoa.

 

And then we learned that we are having twins.

 

So I decided I reserve the right to be flexible and choose what works best for us. I hope it's cloth.

 


Edited by DoubleDouble - 11/23/11 at 9:48am
post #6 of 37

Congrats on the twins!  SO exciting!  I'd LOVE to have twins.  But, I have never thought about that in terms of diapers, lol.

 

I have had 2 in diapers for the last 4 years, though.  It's not that big of a deal.

 

I have a pretty big variety of diapers, but I'd have to say my two favorites are a mommy's touch one-size cover with a prefold, or a flat fold and wool.  I'm sewing a bunch of fitteds to go under my wool, and I'm liking that even better that a flat fold.  There are TONS of ways to fold a flat fold, but I can't get it to have good enough gussets to reliably prevent poo from getting on my wool.  I hate handwashing that.  Blech.  Hence the fitteds. 

 

My mommy's touch fit my newborns pretty quickly, they snap down really small, and have lasted well.  In my last ddc, I felt like a commercial, lol. But, I do find that I go back to them over and over.  You might consider fitteds for them, too, though, in the early days.  If you can keep the covers clean, you can use them a few times without washing them.  One difference about mommy's touch is that the cover is soft on the inside and outside.  The PUL is sandwiched in between.  That means that it can hold a bit more moisture than a typical wipe off cover (meaning, you do need to wash them more frequently than one that is just PUL on the inside.) 

 

I also wanted to add that I like having a variety of diapers.  I've found that different ones work better at different stages and with different kids.  They are chubby/lean in different places, and at different times.  And sometimes a cover can leave elastic lines, and it's nice to be able to switch to one with a slightly different fit to give the baby a break.  (If you have one that is regularly leaving lines, it's too small and needs retired or adjusted, btw.)

 

Wait, one more thing.  I have been really, really pleased with all of my one size variety.  I LOVE not having to worry about which diaper I grab for which kid.  I just snap it slightly differently, and we're good to go.  Fuzzibunz one size is squishy and comfy and cute, but I can't just grab and go.  At our house, purple and green are small, yellow and blue are bigger.  They adjust from the inside, which eliminates the bulk, but, again, take longer to switch up.

post #7 of 37

I tend to prefer natural fibers, so fitteds, prefolds and I am looking forward to trying flats.  I think flats will wash up better in our HE machine, which uses such little water that I don't know if it really washes the thick prefolds.... lots of stripping!

 

 

For covers I really do love wool... and some pul, but mostly wool diaper.gif

post #8 of 37
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Congrats on the twins!  SO exciting!  I'd LOVE to have twins.  But, I have never thought about that in terms of diapers, lol.

 

I have had 2 in diapers for the last 4 years, though.  It's not that big of a deal.

 

I have a pretty big variety of diapers, but I'd have to say my two favorites are a mommy's touch one-size cover with a prefold, or a flat fold and wool.  I'm sewing a bunch of fitteds to go under my wool, and I'm liking that even better that a flat fold.  There are TONS of ways to fold a flat fold, but I can't get it to have good enough gussets to reliably prevent poo from getting on my wool.  I hate handwashing that.  Blech.  Hence the fitteds. 

 

My mommy's touch fit my newborns pretty quickly, they snap down really small, and have lasted well.  In my last ddc, I felt like a commercial, lol. But, I do find that I go back to them over and over.  You might consider fitteds for them, too, though, in the early days.  If you can keep the covers clean, you can use them a few times without washing them.  One difference about mommy's touch is that the cover is soft on the inside and outside.  The PUL is sandwiched in between.  That means that it can hold a bit more moisture than a typical wipe off cover (meaning, you do need to wash them more frequently than one that is just PUL on the inside.) 

 

I also wanted to add that I like having a variety of diapers.  I've found that different ones work better at different stages and with different kids.  They are chubby/lean in different places, and at different times.  And sometimes a cover can leave elastic lines, and it's nice to be able to switch to one with a slightly different fit to give the baby a break.  (If you have one that is regularly leaving lines, it's too small and needs retired or adjusted, btw.)

 

Wait, one more thing.  I have been really, really pleased with all of my one size variety.  I LOVE not having to worry about which diaper I grab for which kid.  I just snap it slightly differently, and we're good to go.  Fuzzibunz one size is squishy and comfy and cute, but I can't just grab and go.  At our house, purple and green are small, yellow and blue are bigger.  They adjust from the inside, which eliminates the bulk, but, again, take longer to switch up.



Yes!  And even for different occasions.  I used different diapers for home, outings, night time, etc.  The great thing about cloth is that you have so many different options. 

 

post #9 of 37
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We use pocket diapers during the day and one disposable at night. We used disposables for the first month full time, then switched to pre-folds with covers, then to the pockets once she was a little bigger and needing a change less than once an hour!

 

When we're feeling more flush or traveling and using lots of disposables, we spring for Earth's Best disposables. I think they have more natural ingredients and less nasty chemicals, They're stiffer than the regular disposables, but they seem to absorb and hold leaks just as well.


This is almost exactly our story too! Except Seventh Generation instead of Earths Best.
post #10 of 37

We've used cloth with DS since he was born, he's only been in sposies a handful of times, when he had a rash so bad that we couldn't get it to clear up and I didn't want the medicine to get on the dipes (turned out to be food allergies).  We used the Earth's Best, I believe, and I'll say that when I opened up a night-time dipe and found the little gel pearls all over his butt, I was PISSED.  For a short period of time I haven't had any issues with them, but they cannot stand up to my DS and overnight - they start disintegrating (he's a really heavy overnight wetter). 

 

You need to think about what you want from your dipe (talking CDs here).  Washability, ease of use, style of dipe, type of fiber, closure, etc.  Make some decisions before you start looking, or the choices will overwhelm you.  With DS I was dead-set on all wool, all natural (and organic) fibers.  I tried PFs at first, but DS had such scrawny legs that I just couldn't get them to hold in the poo (and repeatedly washing the wool is a HUGE pain).  But finding a fitted that was snug enough around the leg was equally difficult - I probably tried out 20 something brands (used) before finding what works for us (side snaps).  I will second the Mommy's Touch OS cover - I love mine, although we didn't start using it until about a year, by which point DS' legs had chubbed out.  We added stay-dry liners around 8 or 9 months, when he started getting rashes.  And around a year we also added pocket dipes to the mix - nowadays we only use wool at night. 

 

This time around, I have all of the dipes I kept from DS plus I picked up 2 dozen infant pfs and a handful of PUL NB covers.  Messing with wool FT with a NB I'm not wanting to repeat, although once this one is out of NB size, we will probably stick with mostly wool, since I have a lot of it. 

 

If someone needs a full(ish) list of things to think about when deciding what type of CD to go with, I know I typed one up once-upon-a-time... I'll see if I can dig it up.  I'm also happy to share my thoughts on the brands we've tried if anyone is interested, but I know at least 1 of my faves is no longer being made... but I have a spreadsheet covering almost everything we've tried over the last 2 years. 

post #11 of 37

So, I apologize if this is repetitious - I took things I've typed on several threads over the years and compiled them.  But these are some of the things you need to think about when selecting CDs. 

 

Decide on the generalities. What do you want from your cds? Do you want easy "wash and wear" (AIO)? Do you want cheap (pfs/flats)? Do you want something as easy to put on as a sposie? (AIO) Do you want something that's quick on, but you can tell when its been peed in? (fitted) Do you want customizable absorbancy with easy on? (pocket) 

 

Pfs/flats are cheapest, wash easiest, but are the most complicated to use, with the steepest learning curve. Fitteds are typically natural fibers, go on like a sposie, but require a cover. They wash pretty easily. AIOs are the easiest to use, just like a sposie, but are the most complicated to wash, and usually the most expensive. Pockets go on like an AIO, washing is more like a fitted, but you have to spend the time stuffing them after each wash. And then there are AI2s (also called hybrids), which have much of the same attributes of a pocket (easy on, easier wash, some assembly required), except you can reuse the outer cover (pockets are wear and wash), and may not have the stay dry liner.

 

Think about your life.  Some things that need to be considered: budget, how often you want to wash, how diligent you want to be w washing (flats/pfs wash clean fairly easily, but AIOs require more work), will you be going back to work, do you plan to EC at all, who might be babysitting, etc. If daycare is in your future, pockets or AIOs are usually a better choice (many daycares wont take anything else). And then think about types of fabric (natural vs synthetic). Each has its pros and cons. And then there's closures to consider, again with the pros and cons.  Is price the deciding factor? Then pfs or flats for you.  Do you want breathability and natural fibers? Then probably fitteds and wool.

 

Then decide on closures - velcro or snaps? They each have their good and their bad points. But generally if you want your dipes to last through several kids, you want snaps. Aplix fits a wider range, but it wears out and can tangle in the wash. Snaps last longer, but fit a narrower range. Some parents find one easier than the other - many find Aplix easier to put on, but in our house we find snaps easier to work with (and harder for a toddler to take off).

 

you need to think about wash routine - pfs/flats are the easiest to wash/quickest to dry, synthetic pockets/AIOs the hardest and aios take the longest to dry. do you have your own machine, or use shared machines? Front loader or top loader? Line dry or dryer? All these things may influence your choices. If i had to line dry, id only be using pockets and flats. Our climate is rarely warm enough to line dry anything else in a reasonable amount of time. If i had to share a machine, id be using natural fibers, which are less likely to have repelling problems from chemical residue in the machines.

 

Then you get to decide on fibers. Do you want all natural fibers touching baby (which also means baby will feel wet)? Or do you want a stay-dry (synthetic) inner against baby's skin? Its more like a sposie in that they dont feel wet, but some people believe PL takes longer if they dont feel the wet. 

 

If you've decided on pfs, flats or fitteds at this point, then you need to think about covers - wool, fleece, pul or nylon. PUL or nylon can go under clothes, but wool and fleece typically don't due to compression wicking (which is why you see wool pants). There are basically 2 styles - wrap or pull on. PUL comes in exposed (wipe clean) and covered. Wool has to be hand washed, but can go weeks between washing if it doesn't get poo on it.  Everything else is machine washable, but will typically start smelling within a few uses. 


The other thing to decide is if you want sized or one-size dipes. OS dont typically fit NBs, but beyond that they do. But if you want to use those dipes on more than one babe, you'll need either a large stash of OS or go with sized. Most OS will not last through multiple kids if they're washed/worn every other day for 2 yrs.

 

After you decide all of that, I would still never recommend that you buy a stash of all 1 type of dipe before baby arrives.  We went through dozens of styles and brands just within "fitteds" to find something that would fit DS.  It would have been a huge waste of money if I had bought a full stash before hand. 

post #12 of 37
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I'm excited to see how others respond to this post.  This is our first baby and I plan to use cloth diapers, but I'm nervous and other people have suggested that they have an expectation that I will fail and end up using disposable anyway.  I'd love to hear people's thoughts on this topic.



Thoughts? Ignore 'em. Those are the same people who don't have the willpower to follow through on anything difficult, and therefore can't believe anyone else would, either. The funny thing is that cloth diapering is not even difficult. Disposables are a little easier, but we're talking a few minutes a day here, nothing more. :) But really, those people will also say you can't possibly give birth without an epidural if you want to, or breastfeed for more than a few week, etc. 

post #13 of 37

I am totally scared to rinse out cloth diapers, I gag a lot when seeing anything body related and I know it will be easier with my own kid, but this is the reason I am leaning towards disposable.  Are there any that make this a little less gross??  Seriously, I have always had an issue with this.  It isn't a normal one, it is severe.

post #14 of 37
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I am totally scared to rinse out cloth diapers, I gag a lot when seeing anything body related and I know it will be easier with my own kid, but this is the reason I am leaning towards disposable.  Are there any that make this a little less gross??  Seriously, I have always had an issue with this.  It isn't a normal one, it is severe.



I think about people's fears of rinsing poop off of cds all of the time while I'm wiping dd's butt! :-) My thoughts are: wiping poop off of your child's body is WAAAAAAAAY grosser than wiping it off of a diaper. Like, 20 times worse. Wiping it off is a diaper is nothing compared to digging it out of baby crevices. horrors.gif

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I am totally scared to rinse out cloth diapers, I gag a lot when seeing anything body related and I know it will be easier with my own kid, but this is the reason I am leaning towards disposable.  Are there any that make this a little less gross??  Seriously, I have always had an issue with this.  It isn't a normal one, it is severe.


Wiping up your baby's bottom is much more difficult and disgusting than rinsing a diaper. I find that the easy part! Also, to me disposables are so disgusting. They get soggy and poopy and you have this trash filled with these heavy, fecal-soaked diapers that stink. Cloth is lovely! You give it a quick rinse (and for the first six months, before solids, BF poop is not at all stinky or offensive) and then when you wash them they come out all clean and sweet-smelling. I have loved everything about cloth diapers, and found them to be surprisingly easy.

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Wiping up your baby's bottom is much more difficult and disgusting than rinsing a diaper. I find that the easy part! Also, to me disposables are so disgusting. They get soggy and poopy and you have this trash filled with these heavy, fecal-soaked diapers that stink. Cloth is lovely! You give it a quick rinse (and for the first six months, before solids, BF poop is not at all stinky or offensive) and then when you wash them they come out all clean and sweet-smelling. I have loved everything about cloth diapers, and found them to be surprisingly easy.



This may sound dumb but...where do you rinse them? I started a thread with CD questions a while back and a lot of mamas said not to bother with the spray nozzle thing on the toilet because it just got poo speckles everywhere.

 

I am really wanting to CD but trying to decide what to buy before baby gets here is a tad intimidating. This thread helps, though.

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This may sound dumb but...where do you rinse them? I started a thread with CD questions a while back and a lot of mamas said not to bother with the spray nozzle thing on the toilet because it just got poo speckles everywhere.

 

I am really wanting to CD but trying to decide what to buy before baby gets here is a tad intimidating. This thread helps, though.


 

 

No rinsing required until babe starts eating solids.  And I don't mean purees or a bite here and a bite 2 days later.  When baby starts eating a fair bit of solids that they can't digest, poo goes from water soluble to chunky, for us that was somewhere around 10 months.  When we got to the point where I was having to pick bits of (washed) food out of the washing machine drum after each load, that's when I bought a sprayer. 

 

As for the other question, about wiping - trust me, I have a severe gag reflex, and when it's your own child, most of this stuff just doesn't trigger.  The one exception was the other night when he started heaving, but he's 2, was dry heaving, we had just had a big dinner (this was after Thanksgiving dinner) and I'm pg - just a concatenation of things that made me start gagging.  Most of the time I just move on. 

 

And I'll also point out that it's illegal to throw human waste in a landfill - it's a disease risk.  Technically those sposies are supposed to be rinsed before being tossed.  A lot of them will even say so on the label.  Everybody ignores that, but it's something to keep in mind when worrying about this.  It's actually safer to put the waste where it belongs - into the sewer/septic system, where it will be treated "properly", rather than seeping into the ground water and contaminating the soil. 

 

Another option though, something to look into is sposie composting.  I know there's a company locally (a diaper service) that is doing it.  They supply the dipes, they pick them up at the end of the week and dispose of them, just like a regular service, only they're compostable dipes instead of cloth. 

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This may sound dumb but...where do you rinse them? I started a thread with CD questions a while back and a lot of mamas said not to bother with the spray nozzle thing on the toilet because it just got poo speckles everywhere.

 

I am really wanting to CD but trying to decide what to buy before baby gets here is a tad intimidating. This thread helps, though.


We use a disposable/flushable liner (looks like a dryer sheet) that is placed between the baby and the diaper and it catches the poo.  It is then tossed in the toilet, and flushed away - no rinsing, no stinky trashcan, nothing!  Also, if they're only wet, they can be rinsed and re-used once dry.

 

post #19 of 37

I pull anything "solid" that will come off with toilet paper and flush it. Then I run it downstairs to our utility sink right by the washer and spray it off with a hose attachment that we have hooked up there. Nothing fancy...garden hose and garden sprayer! We leave the rinsed diapers hanging there until it's laundry time. We didn't used to rinse anything until laundry day, but we started getting stains.

post #20 of 37
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I am totally scared to rinse out cloth diapers, I gag a lot when seeing anything body related and I know it will be easier with my own kid, but this is the reason I am leaning towards disposable.  Are there any that make this a little less gross??  Seriously, I have always had an issue with this.  It isn't a normal one, it is severe.



I didn't rinse DD's diapers.  Once they were solid, I just shook them off into the toilet.  If just seeing the poop makes you squeemish, you're going to be seeing it no matter what kind of diaper you use.

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