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post #1 of 10
Thread Starter 

Me and Hubby have been ttc for over a year now... He has been tested everything is normal.. I have had HSG, blood tests including hormone levels, thyroid, and insulin resistance.. Everything came back normal.. I have 2 children from previous marriage they are 18 and 14.. Never had issues before... Trying to figure out what is next... Below is the meds we have tried..


4 months naturally (found out i wasn't ovulating)  BFN

3 months clomid with trigger BFN

3 months femera with trigger BFN

2 months femera, repronex with trigger 1 of these was with IUI    BFN

2 months repronex with trigger and IUI  BFN


Thank you in advance for any replies trying to figure where we will go next.. Praying doc doesn't say IVF it is not an option due to insurance..  Thx

post #2 of 10

Welcome to MDC!!  wave.gif  I'm so sorry you've been struggling to conceive.  I don't have a lot of advice to offer, but I would suggest cross posting this in the Infertility forum for more ideas.


Did you doctor tell you why you weren't ovulating, especially if your hormone levels are coming back normal?  There are some herbs you could try like Vitex and many women have luck with acupuncture, womb massage, etc.  But I also have a few friends that tried many things and only had success with IVF.  Good luck!

post #3 of 10

Are you temping? Do you know if you have been O'ing with the meds? What's your luteal phase like? Do you want to share a chart?


Have you seen Taking Charge of Your Fertility? I love what the author says about timing being everything. She has some anecdotes about couples who have been trying over a year getting pregnant after one month of charting. You're probably all over this, but just thought it couldn't hurt to mention. She also talks about temping to see if you are in fact conceiving but not having luck implanting or having early miscarriages. That would suck, but treatment would likely be different that not conceiving at all.


Are you using a lube - they can mess up the acidity of your whole zone. I have heard good things about preseed but haven't tried it.


Have they looked at the position of your uterus? Like Jaimee said, uterine massage can be very effective. I would also wonder if it is time to see an alternative dr, like an auyerved or naturopath. Have you tried energy work? Acupuncture?


I wish you clarity and success in your journey!

post #4 of 10
Thread Starter 

Thank you so much for your reply I have posting in the infertility forum but haven't received any replies... I was bc for 10 years and when I went off my period just never returned... The doc said it wasn't due to the bc.. I had to take provera to get my period back... Thanks agian


post #5 of 10
Thread Starter 

Thank you so much for your post, I have not  been charting or temping... I am totally new to all of this and am basically at a loss.. I have had 2 children before but it was a long time ago... Ive never had issues before... I have used the trigger shot with each cycle so i have been ovulating.. My uterus is tilted backwards but he said that wouldn't be an issue... We do not use lube... Thanx again for any advice you may beable to give.. I have been posting on 3 sites and not getting 2 many replies so thank you again...

post #6 of 10

I would definitely start temping so you know when you are ovulating. I don't know anything about the trigger shot - is that an immediate thing? Sorry for my ignorance...


Also, watching cervical mucus is quite helpful and not too difficult once you get in the habit.


I would run to the bookstore and get a copy of Taking Charge of Your Fertility and start reading. VERY illuminating.


Good luck!

post #7 of 10

Oh and I would absolutely get a second opinion about your tipped uterus. That could be it! Is there a good naturpathic doctor in your area who could recommend a Uterine Massage specialist? I think there is something called Mayan Womb massage. You could look around for someone. Worth a try, right?

post #8 of 10

Well if you're interested in learning to chart, I have pasted a post about charting below.  Charting will tell you when you are fertile, if/when you ovulate, how long your average luteal phase is, when to test, when to expect AF, if you're pregnant and if there is anything else of concern happening with your cycle.  I sort of assumed that your doctor had determined a cause before putting you on medication, but I also know that is not always the case.  So charting is a great place to start getting to know your cycle yourself and finding possible solutions to problems that arise with your own research.  Post if you have questions!




Start as soon as you can since the first day of red blood is cycle day 1.  Pick up a copy of Taking Charge of Your Fertility by Toni Weschler at the library (or buy it).  You don't need to read it cover to cover to get started, but it really is an excellent resource.


You can pick up a basal body thermometer (BBT) at your local drug store.  Some are better than others.  I prefer ones that take longer than 30 seconds (they seem more accurate to me) and can hold two temperatures in memory (this is especially handy when you wake up, temp, and go back to sleep- you can look at and record the temp later).  The Walgreens thermometer gets generally bad reviews.  BD gets good reviews. 


When temping you want to focus on a few things: taking it at the same time each morning (within 30 minutes); taking it after a solid block of sleep (3 hours is usually recommended); and making sure that you don't get out of bed, sit up, drink water, or fall asleep before or while temping.  So basically you just wake up, roll over, temp, and go back to sleep or get up. 


Some women are really sensitive to changes in sleep patterns or ambient temperature (like if your room is hot one morning and not the next or you wake up snuggled under a warm blanket and the next are out of the covers).  But other women find that they can see their pattern despite numerous night wakings, not getting a 3 hour block of sleep prior to temping, or environmental changes.  Other things that can affect temp- pretty much the same things that can delay ovulation: travel, stress, diet changes, injury, illness, and strenuous exercise.


Next, cervical fluid (CF) is something you can observe throughout the day- whenever you feel it, whenever you see it (while wiping, on your panties), etc.  Here is my general guide to CF:


Dry: you'll feel dry all day and there is nothing on your panties

Sticky: you'll generally feel dry and there will be a bit of staining- usually yellow- on your panties.  It might be a bit crumbly or clumpy.

Creamy: generally you'll feel a little wet, lotiony in texture, could be slippery when you wipe, often it will stand up on your panties

Wet: you'll feel wet and your panties will likely be wet- maybe even soak through, may look like skim milk (I rarely get this)

Eggwhite: you might actually feel it slipping out of you throughout the day and it might fall out of you while using the bathroom, stretchy- it may stretch from you to the TP for several inches- and usually clear or yellow tinted, often quite profuse


Temp and CF are the two basic fertility signs you need to chart.  There are other signs you can record like cervical position (CP), but it's not necessary unless your temps and CF are not showing a clear pattern.


So what you're going to see is a group of low temps from the start of AF, which is cycle day 1 (CD 1) until the day after ovulation (O) when you should see a spike in temp or steady climb to a higher group of temps.  The days between O and AF are called your luteal phase (LP).  Generally it is said that you need at least 10 days to sustain a pregnancy.  The average length is 12-14 days.  Your LP will not vary much- usually just by one or two days cycle to cycle.  But your O day could vary considerably.  So when you see O on your chart you can then predict when AF should show based on your average LP length.  If you go 3 days past your longest LP length then that is an excellent sign of pregnancy.  If you get 18 high temps after O that is 99% accurate- just like an HPT.


Likewise your CF will go from dry just after AF to sticky, to creamy, to EW as O approaches.  You may or may not go through all the different types of CF prior to O or you could skip from dry to creamy or dry to EW.  You might have many days of creamy and one or two of EW or you might have 3 or 4 days of EW with hardly any creamy.  It all depends on the woman and that particular cycle.  But after O you will dry up.  It could be instantaneous- like the day of the spike you're dry.  Or it could decrease slower- EW to creamy to stick to dry.  But usually you will dry up within a few days and then may or may not experience a few more days of creamy or even wet/EW later in your LP, just prior to AF.


Anyway, that should get you started!  Post if you have questions and use www.fertilityfriend.com to share your chart!  Good luck!

post #9 of 10

Hi kk!


I'm so glad you found MDC. Everyone is so supportive here. I second (third? fourth?) the suggestion of picking up a copy of Taking Charge of Your Fertility.

I bet you one or two cycles of charting will help you pinpoint any issues you are having.


Come join us in the ONE Thread!



post #10 of 10
Thread Starter 

Thank you I will definately have to go get that book.. I have been reading alot lately... The trigger shot, its a shot you take and you will ovulated 24 to 36 hours after receiving it... thanks again...


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