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post #1 of 5
11/28/11 at 7:26am
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Hi this is my first post here, so i hope you ladies will pardon me if i seem "lazy". I have googled multiple times but i dont feel that i have read enough on what to do after pushing the baby . Im looking for detailed information on how to let the mucus come out naturally, how to cut the cord (i know its 4inches from baby). Do i need to clamp it like the hospital with a clip?  What checks does the baby need after birth? Do i need to get checked at the hospital after giving birth?

I would kindly appreciate if anyone could give me links or information on more detailed information to read up on as this is my 3rd baby and i intend to try unassisted homebirth as my hospital birth for my 2 kids are very dramatic which i intend to avoid.

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post #2 of 5
11/28/11 at 8:42am
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Before i head to bed as its 12.34am here, maybe if i post the questions out would be better..

 

1) After baby is born immediately, im aware that if cord is long enough is to put baby on my body and initiate breastfeed if baby feeds. How long later do i put baby in warm water? As i saw that after birth, putting baby in warm water imitates being in womb and calms them down?

 

2)How long to cut the cord, and is it necessary to clamp it with a clip or just cutting will do?

 

3) What checks does baby need after birth?

 

4)What checks the mum need after birth and is checks necessary?

 

5)How to clear baby nose mucus etc?

 

6)What do i need to read up on which is very necessary?

 

7) If anyone is base in singapore, can someone advise me on the charges, if i bring baby to hospital after birth will the delivery charges sill be charged?

 

8) Any important articles/information where i can read up on as the information is very very limited at google.

 

9)I tried to talk to my gynae about it and he called me silly, dont wish to give me more info on what to do and told me not to even think of attempting it and my husband is not supportive at all..Im thinking of giving up and go to hospital just to make everyone happy.. Im really confused at what to do. And if the cost if i bring the baby to the hospital is the same as i birth there, i might be going to hospital. I need help in clearing my thinking as im really confused in what i really want..

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post #3 of 5
11/29/11 at 11:45pm

 

1) After baby is born immediately, im aware that if cord is long enough is to put baby on my body and initiate breastfeed if baby feeds. How long later do i put baby in warm water? As i saw that after birth, putting baby in warm water imitates being in womb and calms them down?
 
It is not necessary to put your baby in water after birth.  That is completely up to you.  We didn't give our babies their first bath until a few days after birth.  One liked it, one didn't.
 
2)How long to cut the cord, and is it necessary to clamp it with a clip or just cutting will do?
 
If you cut it before it stops pulsating (which is absolutely not recommended, especially for UC, but sometimes there is a need to), you will want to clamp or tie off the cord in two places (two inches from the baby and another inch or two from that on the "placenta side") and cut between them.
 
If you cut within 60 minutes after birth (generally after the placenta has delivered, but definitely after the cord is no longer pulsating), you might want to tie off or clamp the cord two inches from the baby.  
 
If you wait at least an hour or two after birth, no clamping or tying should be necessary.
 
Alternatively, it is not necessary to cut the cord at all.  This is called a lotus birth.  You leave the cord and placenta intact until the cord falls off the baby on it's own (usually within a week after birth, but can take a few weeks).  You would need a bag to keep the placenta in and salt/herbs to preserve it while it is still attached to the baby.
 
You can use just about anything to tie the cord off.  A lot of people use either shoelaces or dental ribbon.  I personally ordered plastic clamps online because that was easiest for me (particularly because I was juggling two babies with short cords at the time).  Here's a link on things you can use to tie off the cord:
 
 
3) What checks does baby need after birth?
 
None; only those you deem necessary.  You might want to make sure the baby is pink and breathing (see an APGAR scoring chart, easy enough to Google), but beyond that it's completely up to you.  Be careful when bringing the baby to a hospital or emergency room after birth - they may panic and it could prove a traumatic experience to you and/or your baby.  Personally, I brought my babies to a pediatrician when they were a week old.
 
 
4)What checks the mum need after birth and is checks necessary?
 
Again, only those you deem necessary.  The main thing you will be looking at is how much blood loss you have (some moms can lose more than others, I like to make sure I have good hemoglobin - between 11 and 14 - before attempting freebirth) and how you are feeling.  If you start to feel sleepy, look white, feel clammy or feverish, you may be losing too much blood.
 
 
You might also check to see if you've torn and attend to this. (I choose to do nothing, but I also didn't tear on my perineum, that might be different.)  Here is a link on repairing perineal tears:
 
 
5)How to clear baby nose mucus etc?
 
As long as you have a vaginal birth, particularly if you are upright during labor and delivery and the baby is head down, this is usually not necessary.  The baby should be able to clear his or her lungs on their own.  You will know if you need to help your baby clear his or her airway.  You can use your mouth to suck any mucus out, or you can use a bulb syringe (be gentle).  Alternatively, you can tilt the baby forward with it's belly towards the ground.  One of my twins was having a bit of an issue with fluid after trying to breastfeed her, so I just held her in this position and gently patted and rubbed her back.  Seemed to do the trick (and I didn't have to think about it, just knew what to do.)
 
6)What do i need to read up on which is very necessary?
 
Everything and anything that you feel necessary.  Personally I think one should at least educate themselves on how to handle complications/variations in the birth process.  Here is the site I have been linking you to, it's an extremely good start, but there are a lot of other books and publications out there to read:
 
 
7) If anyone is base in singapore, can someone advise me on the charges, if i bring baby to hospital after birth will the delivery charges sill be charged?
 
I wouldn't think so, but I'm not in Singapore.
 
8) Any important articles/information where i can read up on as the information is very very limited at google.
 
I already gave you some links, but here's another favorite UC site of mine.  Has a lot of insightful articles and amazing birth stories.
 
 
Alternatively, here is MY birth story. :)
 
9)I tried to talk to my gynae about it and he called me silly, dont wish to give me more info on what to do and told me not to even think of attempting it and my husband is not supportive at all..Im thinking of giving up and go to hospital just to make everyone happy.. Im really confused at what to do. And if the cost if i bring the baby to the hospital is the same as i birth there, i might be going to hospital. I need help in clearing my thinking as im really confused in what i really want..
 
I'm not much help here, but I will say that it might be a good idea to at least get your husband on board with you.  It is difficult to UC with absolutely no support...if you could even find a friend or two to support you during your labor and birth, that would be ideal.  I don't know what I'd do without my husband there to protect and help me when I was in labor and giving birth.  Though some women are just fine with birthing completely solo.  It's up to you.  Give it a lot of thought and decide what you are comfortable with.  Remember that it is YOUR birth, and you should do what makes YOU happy.

 

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post #4 of 5
12/2/11 at 8:41am
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Thanks for your reply.

For (1) Is it advisable to bath the baby immediately once hes born still attached to the cord at the placenta, bath as in placed inside warm water to make the baby comforable?

 

(2)Thanks for the info, i totally need this cord cutting info..

 

(3) Ok thanks, actually i thought of going to hospital and say that i born the baby at home while not in time to hospital. Is it advisable?

 

(4) I have minor thelassemia, should i be more concern at this losing blood part?

 

(5)I hope i know what to do if i chose UC.

 

(6) I understand what i should do to make myself happy as its my birth but all of my friends and even ym partner is against. If everyone is unhappy and just force me, neither will i be happy. I am also frankly SCARED as this this is my first time attempting UC and no one is supportive and even scaring me..

 

 

another question..

 

I thought of birthing in warm water in a inflatable tub for kids, my concern is that when im pushing i know that baby will hold the breath but will it be more dangerous this way? Since once baby head out i still need to push for the body to be out. I forsee myself to lie/sit on the floor, lying backwards on a pillow and just spreading the legs to birth my baby.. There will be no one massaging the vaginal walls, will i be more prone to tearing?

My 2nd child had just a tiny episotomy (i could walk immediately after birth unlike my #1 i couldnt walk properly for 1mth+) and my husband told me my son literally fly out when i was lying down pushing haha
 

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1) After baby is born immediately, im aware that if cord is long enough is to put baby on my body and initiate breastfeed if baby feeds. How long later do i put baby in warm water? As i saw that after birth, putting baby in warm water imitates being in womb and calms them down?
 
It is not necessary to put your baby in water after birth.  That is completely up to you.  We didn't give our babies their first bath until a few days after birth.  One liked it, one didn't.
 
2)How long to cut the cord, and is it necessary to clamp it with a clip or just cutting will do?
 
If you cut it before it stops pulsating (which is absolutely not recommended, especially for UC, but sometimes there is a need to), you will want to clamp or tie off the cord in two places (two inches from the baby and another inch or two from that on the "placenta side") and cut between them.
 
If you cut within 60 minutes after birth (generally after the placenta has delivered, but definitely after the cord is no longer pulsating), you might want to tie off or clamp the cord two inches from the baby.  
 
If you wait at least an hour or two after birth, no clamping or tying should be necessary.
 
Alternatively, it is not necessary to cut the cord at all.  This is called a lotus birth.  You leave the cord and placenta intact until the cord falls off the baby on it's own (usually within a week after birth, but can take a few weeks).  You would need a bag to keep the placenta in and salt/herbs to preserve it while it is still attached to the baby.
 
You can use just about anything to tie the cord off.  A lot of people use either shoelaces or dental ribbon.  I personally ordered plastic clamps online because that was easiest for me (particularly because I was juggling two babies with short cords at the time).  Here's a link on things you can use to tie off the cord:
 
 
3) What checks does baby need after birth?
 
None; only those you deem necessary.  You might want to make sure the baby is pink and breathing (see an APGAR scoring chart, easy enough to Google), but beyond that it's completely up to you.  Be careful when bringing the baby to a hospital or emergency room after birth - they may panic and it could prove a traumatic experience to you and/or your baby.  Personally, I brought my babies to a pediatrician when they were a week old.
 
 
4)What checks the mum need after birth and is checks necessary?
 
Again, only those you deem necessary.  The main thing you will be looking at is how much blood loss you have (some moms can lose more than others, I like to make sure I have good hemoglobin - between 11 and 14 - before attempting freebirth) and how you are feeling.  If you start to feel sleepy, look white, feel clammy or feverish, you may be losing too much blood.
 
 
You might also check to see if you've torn and attend to this. (I choose to do nothing, but I also didn't tear on my perineum, that might be different.)  Here is a link on repairing perineal tears:
 
 
5)How to clear baby nose mucus etc?
 
As long as you have a vaginal birth, particularly if you are upright during labor and delivery and the baby is head down, this is usually not necessary.  The baby should be able to clear his or her lungs on their own.  You will know if you need to help your baby clear his or her airway.  You can use your mouth to suck any mucus out, or you can use a bulb syringe (be gentle).  Alternatively, you can tilt the baby forward with it's belly towards the ground.  One of my twins was having a bit of an issue with fluid after trying to breastfeed her, so I just held her in this position and gently patted and rubbed her back.  Seemed to do the trick (and I didn't have to think about it, just knew what to do.)
 
6)What do i need to read up on which is very necessary?
 
Everything and anything that you feel necessary.  Personally I think one should at least educate themselves on how to handle complications/variations in the birth process.  Here is the site I have been linking you to, it's an extremely good start, but there are a lot of other books and publications out there to read:
 
 
7) If anyone is base in singapore, can someone advise me on the charges, if i bring baby to hospital after birth will the delivery charges sill be charged?
 
I wouldn't think so, but I'm not in Singapore.
 
8) Any important articles/information where i can read up on as the information is very very limited at google.
 
I already gave you some links, but here's another favorite UC site of mine.  Has a lot of insightful articles and amazing birth stories.
 
 
Alternatively, here is MY birth story. :)
 
9)I tried to talk to my gynae about it and he called me silly, dont wish to give me more info on what to do and told me not to even think of attempting it and my husband is not supportive at all..Im thinking of giving up and go to hospital just to make everyone happy.. Im really confused at what to do. And if the cost if i bring the baby to the hospital is the same as i birth there, i might be going to hospital. I need help in clearing my thinking as im really confused in what i really want..
 
I'm not much help here, but I will say that it might be a good idea to at least get your husband on board with you.  It is difficult to UC with absolutely no support...if you could even find a friend or two to support you during your labor and birth, that would be ideal.  I don't know what I'd do without my husband there to protect and help me when I was in labor and giving birth.  Though some women are just fine with birthing completely solo.  It's up to you.  Give it a lot of thought and decide what you are comfortable with.  Remember that it is YOUR birth, and you should do what makes YOU happy.

 



 

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post #5 of 5
12/2/11 at 9:16am
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Hi thanks for your reply Almi. I posted a reply once but not sure why it didnt get posted out.

 

(1) Is it advisable to put the baby immediately after he comes out still with the placenta inside me inside warm water to "warm" him and also imitiate the womb temp as the outside room temperature is different.

 

(2) Thanks for the clamping cord info, its very informative.

 

(3 & 4) Im thinking of going to the hospital saying i delivered at home not in time to go hospital. Is this advisable?

 

(5)Do you have more information on this like a pictorial or something? I forsee  me of lying 45degress on the mat sitting with my legs apart birthing..

 

(9) I do understand i must do things that make me happy but my partner, my mum, my friends are all very unsupportive of me doing it as they feel its very dangerous.If everyone force and say nasty things it will make me stressed and upset. As to be frank im scared of  having a UC yet i want it as i dont like the nurses being very mean and forced things to me like drugs.

 

And there will be no one "massaging" my vaginal, so will i be prone to tearing? With my 2nd child i had a tiny bit of episotomy as i could walk immediately after birth unlike my #1 i could only walk properly after 1mth+. ANd husband said the baby literally fly out lol. SO should i be worried of tearing?

 

 

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