outdoorsy- your clinic is giving you much the same advice as we received when we went to see the Genesis clinic here in Vancouver. We spoke to Dr Beth Taylor (try googling her, she writes some interesting articles) and she told us that temping and 'all that stuff' might work for some people (there was just a hint of 'some people like to overcomplicate things' in the tone of her voice), but she only recommends to her patients the following: use an OPK from day 8 of your cycle until it shows positive then call the clinic and they'll inseminate that day.
Sounds very simple.
We're not using their services at the moment and I've read too much about cervix tracking and temping and CM by now to disregard all that. I guess I'm brain washed. S likes things simple and straightforward, though, so this approach really appeals to her. She also hates Cm and speculums and all that jazz, so peeing on a stick is her preferred option. I guess we're going to try this approach for a few months and see if it works for us and if not I'm coming after her with that speculum again... 
Desert- thanks for the affirming 
I feel validated. My new mission for placenta-only communication is barely under way and already finding advocates.
You made me laugh about that boy's intentions regarding his flavoured sperm. 
But you know, he was probably right. That was my last interaction with sperm until just last week and neither guy's sample smelled of anything (not even strawberries), so I'm now a fan of vegetarian sperm. Well, maybe I wouldn't go that far...
My heart hurts for you when I read about you guys having to give up these kids to an uncertain future. It's just so damn unfair. Here you are trying so hard to make a baby and doing an amazing job of looking after another woman's kids and it is decided by the powers that be that the best option is for these kids to go back to someone who may well be their biological mother but who is clearly not going to be able to provide for them in the same way you have been and are able to.
Ugh. The world sucks sometimes.
lisedea- so, did you get off the island? did the fog clear? did you get to the clinic in time?
Your insemination sounds like an Agatha Christie mystery... with fogs and islands and airplanes... oh my!
I gotta get me some of those things into our next insem (if/when we have to do it) attempt. Just 'driving down the road 10 minutes to pick up' just doesn't have the same kind of glamour to it, ya know?
Carmen- so sorry that progesterone was messing with your mind. Ugh.
I'm impressed with how quickly you're able to turn that around and look forward again. Wow.
Sounds like your conversation with the RE was also very encouraging. So did I understand that right- you've tried 5 times and got pregnant 3 of those? That sounds pretty damn good! I think you're beating the odds by a few multiples there.
I know it's probably still pretty frustrating, but still. It sounds like you guys are doing it right 
We've had a pretty crazy week. My normally very calm and together wife pretty much lost it for a few days there. I'm talking bat-shit-crazy. Random unexplained crying, bouts of anger, paranoia, severe feelings of insecurity and irritability... plus feeling all sorts of cramping and discomfort, bloating and gas, and we went to bed around 9 every night cause by then we were just exhausted. She's never even had PMS before.
She's back now, wondering where the heck she went to for a few days there... I'm glad we've been together for so long as it made the whole thing a lot more 'amusing' and less scary. I felt pretty calm and did my best to help her through whatever it was and be all supportive. I knew she'd come out the other side and she has now.
So, I don't know. Part of me thinks this is stress and feeling overwhelmed by symptoms of this huge shift she's making in her life.
On the other hand I've seen her stressed many times, and I've seen her ill or depressed and going through all sorts of big stuff at one time or other in the past 15 years. I've seen her in a lot of situations. But I've NEVER seen her like she was this past week. Never.
Whatever is going on is very very different and new.
So, I don't know.
On Tuesday evening she was in the throes of a crying/ yelling/ totally losing it fit about the laundry-cupboard door (i had apparently left it ajar) and I was watching this Spectacle of Nature taking place in front of me and it was all I could do not to let her see me laughing, because I just wanted to yell 'you are SO pregnant, sweetcheeks! You gorgeous lunatic!'
So who the frik knows...
Like I said, she's back and feeing a lot better.
If every TWW is going to be like this I'm getting the camera ready for next month!
I hope for her sake that she doesn't have to go through that again... she's totally exhausted.
Oh, I have a question- any of you suffer headaches or migraines?
what do you do or take for them while TTC? S suffers from both and was told she can't take anything during the TWW (or pregnancy).
Any tips?
I dunno, I guess I'm just an extremely determined person that refuses to "fail" so I don't give up easily....can be a frustrating quality from another's point of view!
However, what amazing news that you are about to undergo another round, with your partner's eggs! Were you using her eggs before, or yours? I can't remember. The numbers sound so promising, I really hope this is IT for you guys. What great strength you have, keep it up. 
esenbee and planet! Good luck to you both!
Is she going to test or wait it out? Also, could you please move me to the two week wait? Thank you!
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