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post #21 of 210

salut gals and thanks for the good wishes Desert.  sorry that i'm not writing personals.  i'm still processing the last 24 hours, and  i hope ya'll don't mind if i ramble a bit... 

 

Yesterday was a 15 hour adventure which involved getting up early and driving to Belgium,meeting with a psychologist in one clinic and then a gynecologist in a hospital fertility center before driving the 4+ hours back home.  We spent the night before talking about how we would answer possible questions from the psychologist, and i think we were both a bit tense when we got to the first clinic.  the staff, however, was lovely, and we waited in this beautiful old building among several newly pregnant women.  there were sweet birth announcements hanging on the wall, and i watched a straight couple come from the doc's office and hug each other with pure joy on their faces.  a dyke couple came out of the shrinks office before us.  the shrink herself went out of her way to explain that it wasn't any kind of evaluation of us, rather, a chance for us to ask questions and for her to give us advice about how to talk to our future children about how they were created.  she was sooo sympathetic to us and our experiences and genuinely shocked to find out we couldn't even foster or adopt in france.  dp and i were both close to crying tears of gratitude.  at the end of the consultation she gave us copies of a very pro-lesbian psychological study, a paper with advice on how to talk to our children about their conception (broken down by age and also indicating possible problems to look out for at those ages) and a sweet little children's book that we can read to our future babies.  

 

our next appointment was at a huge hospital.  when i called to make our appointments, i told the receptionist that we both want to try, but she only took my name down, so we figured we might be charged double for the gyn appointment, but in the end, we were only charged us for one.  the doc was wonderful, warm and receptive...the complete opposite of my current gyn.  she listened to us, answered our questions and outlined how she would go forward with each of us.  we also learned that the inseminations cost approx 300euros, sperm included.  super cheap, basically.  she said she wants me to do stimulated cycles because of my lining, and said that i should absolutely not be taking clomid and absolutely should be having IUIs instead of ICIs.  she wants DP to do IUIs on natural cycles.  we don't know yet if they'll be able to let us use the same donor.  the donors are all anonymous and come from belgium or denmark (cryos and nordic cryobank).  it all sounds perfect, BUT..... she and her colleagues have to discuss our case first before deciding if they will take us both.  normally, we'd have to wait for one of us to get pregnant for the other one to start, but she said that in view of our ages, she hopes they will make an exception in our case.  we'll have our answer in about a week.  we loved the place and the people, and we can't beat the price or the proximity...  i hope they say yes.  

 

the doc also said she wants me to get a hysterosalpingography before the first IUI.  is that the thing you just got carmen?  does anyone have any experiences with it?  she also wants me to take follistim, use a trigger and then do a second trigger a week later to support my luteal phase.  we've looked into the follistim, and apparently it's very expensive and other lesbians on the forums have had problems getting a gyn to prescribe it, problems getting the pharmacy to dispense it and problems getting social security to pay for it.  i have a feeling mine will say no, but i've seen good things about bravelle, and as it's about 5 times cheaper than follistim, it would be less likely that the social security would notice/care about it.  has anyone used bravelle or follistim?  

 

we're trying to make a photo and written record for our future LOs, and here's a shot from yesterday

:birth announcements gent small.jpgthis is what Belgian birth annoucements look like.  i had no idea fiep was even a name.  in the lower left corner there's a bag of pasta with the birth announcement part on the packaging.  and in the upper left corner is a surreal picture that is unfortunately too small to be enjoyed fully.  funny how my greatest aspiration right now is to have my own little card on that door.

 

post #22 of 210

Huge congrats to Krista on the BFPs!!! jumpers.gifYou have been through so much. I really hope this time is the charm!

 

nosreves -- I too was looking at a wall full of birth announcements recently! It was yesterday when wifey and I went to a Boston-area clinic to talk about doing IUI there instead of the ICI we've been doing at home. The nurse midwife said: no Clomid, at least for the first three cycles. She'll do IUI with natural cycles, and for the first cycle, she wants me to have the insem on the same day as I get a positive opk, because our at-home tries were later, so she thinks we should change it up. And she says I was "subclinical" hypothyroid at my last blood test (records I brought with me), which means it's a level that wouldn't normally need treatment, but since I'm trying to get pregnant, they will probably treat it unless a new blood test shows differently.

 

I am disappointed in France but very happy to hear you are getting the services you deserve in Belgium.

post #23 of 210
Hi everyone !

I had my re appt y esterday with u/s ...my lining was really thick....and she guessed ny body tried to get preg...an early m/c ...I'm going to start prometrium next week..to push my cycle past Christmas when we are in Az ....this is such a good sign that one med cycle and it starting to work...I remain cautious ..yet hopeful.....

Desert..we are driving from sf to Goodyear on the 23 staying till 2nd.....are u renting cabin in flagstaff? Maybe if timing works we can meet up!!! I'm in az st least 2x year and tuscons not that far from my moms in glendale !!! Fx this is the cycle for u !!!!!!!!!

Hi to everyone else
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First CONGRATULATIONS Krista!....Way to go Mama! I am sooooooo super excited for you and your DP. Stick little bean, stick. You have been here almost as long as I have trying to get BFP...I am so happy for you, and I do understand your cautious optimism.

 

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Second~ Thanks for the shiney new thread Desert! thumbsup.gif

 

 

AFM~ I have been lurking and reading and cheering each of you on. Today is CD1 for me...we are/were supposed to be doing a FET this cycle, but I'm not sure if we will or not. We had to take a forced 3 month break from TTC...RE issues, getting a new RE, and then waiting on insurance stuff. In the mean time...I'm working full-time and going to school. DW's mother also passed unexpectedly back in October, and we are still dealing with the emotional havoc her sudden death has caused DW, and me for that matter. I don't really want to wait till January, but that may be what is best for us. I have made a deal with DW that when I turn 40 we will stop TTC if we are not pregnant...I turn 40 July 2012...so I really would hate to miss a month of trying. I don't know...anyway...I am happy to be back and will promise to post more...I have 2 weeks of class left this semester and then I will have off for 4 weeks.

 

Baby dust to all in the TWW....dust.gifand congratulations again for every one who got a recent BFP... banana.gif  banana.gif  carrot.gif  broc1.gif broc1.gif!

 

 

Gelly

 

 

 

post #25 of 210

Nos and Cananny~ Yeah for great RE appointments. It's great to get good news and to have support from your RE/OBGYN. I really hope it is what you both need to get that all elusive BFP.

 

Carmen~ I had horrible bloating during, and after my HSG...terrible I tell you. It took a few weeks for everything to settle down for me, but I was pumped full of saline so it took a while for my body to absorb it. Also kudoes for being older and on the ttc journey. I often fear that my age is what is keeping me from getting prego, but knowing other women who are of  "advanced maternal age" getting BFP's and having healthy babies is soooo encouraging. Oh....and happy belated Birthday!

 

Desert~ I bought my furry son one of those too. I have to take it back and get a bigger size, but they are soooo cute. I have a sweater with the pocket on the back for him as well, and he loves it. He is a chorkie, so he doesn't have a lot of thick fur and hardly any on his belly...he loves getting dressed up. Well, I love seeing him dressed up, I think he just likes being warm. yeah for also trying again this month...a BFP would be the greatest Christmas present ever...!

 

 

Okay I had better get back to studying...Microbiology Lab final on Wednesday....ugh.

 

Gelly

 

post #26 of 210
Thread Starter 

Nosreves, what an incredible experience!  DW and I were reading about your visit to Belgium together this morning and we were both exclaiming over how wonderful it was.  You deserve to be treated that well everywhere.  Soon, your birth announcements will be up with the rest of them.  I really hope this clinic is just the thing you both need for healthy pregnancies and babes.  Best of luck!  Can't wait to hear about the rest of your journey as it unfolds. 

 

Outdoorsy, your clinic visit sounds good too!  It's nice to hear a story about a doctor who wants to change the way you're doing things to help your odds of achieving pregnancy.  Too many times we hear about doctors who just want to continue to do the same protocols over and over and over again.  I hope the IUI is the extra bump you need.  

 

Cananny!  Awesome news about your medicated cycles doing so well!  You should definitely remain cautiously optimistic.  The cabin we're renting is in Happy Jack, which is on the eastern rim of the Grand Canyon.  But we're only staying there until the 28th, not sure what our plans are after that yet.  If we end up staying with my parents in Gilbert, we should definitely get together for coffee!  

 

It's so great to hear from you, Gelly.  I am very sorry to hear about the loss of your wife's mother, that is heartbreaking.  I hope that your FET works the first go-round and you won't have to worry about continuing to try as your birthday approaches.  We missed you here, but I understand how very busy and important things have been in your life lately; it must really have been chaos.  

 

I'll leave you with some pictures of our big black mutt dog in his hoodie.  

 

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Humoring me by wearing his hood.

 

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Manni sitting next to our monstrous pumpkin, which is obviously leftover from Halloween.  It never got carved, so it's still perfect and I love seeing its grotesque-ness every day.  Thus, it still is sitting outside the house.  

 

Happy Saturday!

post #27 of 210

Desert...that's the same hoodie that I got for Bruzier...his is grey. I thought that it fit snug, but seeing your puppy I guess that is how they are supposed to fit.

 

Here he is at 5 weeks old when we first got him...he fit in the palm of your hand and slept in a shoe box...

 

 

Here he is hanging out with his girlfriend "Bianca"...wearing one of his Halloween sweaters...

 

 

Here he is wearing his rain coat...

 

 

one more...here he is taking a nap on the couch...

 

 

Can you imagine me with kids...lol...sorry to hog the board.

 

Night....

Gelly

 

 

 

post #28 of 210

Hello all!  tiphat.gif

 

I'm new here and pretty happy to be joining you!

 

My wife and I are trying to conceive our first and after years of plotting and scheming, and months of discussions with our known donor we're going to attempt our first at-home insemination this week. yays!

 

Our vital stats:

My wife, 39, a lovely English lass with long dark eyelashes, going to attempt first at-home insem Dec 2011 with fresh sperm from local know donor

Me, 34, like sushi and weird plants, going to probably drop the syringe in fits of giggles or forget the 'donation' in the car... also Dec 2011

 

We live in Vancouver, Canada  (waves to fellow Canadians)  where the current weather is: http://www.katkam.ca/

 

Best of luck to everyone else inseminating this week!  thumb.gif

 

Anna

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Edited by AnnaNotherThing - 12/4/11 at 3:26am
post #29 of 210
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Originally Posted by nosreves View Post

 

 

the doc also said she wants me to get a hysterosalpingography before the first IUI. 

 


Yes, HSG for short!

 

My partner had that done.  She found it mildly uncomfortable with a couple of days of feeling kind of 'full'. But no pain either during the procedure or after.  I think it did mess up her cycle slightly, adding 2 or 3 days to the normally very regular length.

Some women also have a little bit of spotting, I believe.

 

The procedure involves injecting a coloured liquid through the cervix and into the uterus and fallopian tubes to make everything visible on X-rays. The image would show any blockages, irregularities, etc.

I do remember you have to get the timing right for your cycle- I think it had to be between days 8 and 12, but I could be wrong.  It was a few months ago.

Some clinics also ask you to do a pregnancy test on site before they will do a HSG just to make sure you're definitely not pregnant, as a HSG would terminate a pregnancy.

 

Our clinic suggested taking 2 Tylenol tablets (or Advil, or anything with paracetamol in it) an hour before the procedure as some women experience period-type cramping pain.  

Our family doctor (who referred us) also warned us that some women have a fainting reflex when having their cervix touched or manipulated.  She warned us that if DP was feeling at all dizzy or fainty she should let the doctor know immediately.  On the day they asked us to sit in the waiting area for an extra 20 minutes after the procedure (I guess for the same reason, in case she suddenly keeled over) but as she was feeling fine we snuck out after a couple of minutes and went for coffee instead.

Seemed like a better way to spend our time...

 

hope that helps!

 

Anna


Edited by AnnaNotherThing - 12/4/11 at 3:26am
post #30 of 210

outdoorsy -- those cards on the wall are sure hope-inducing, aren't they?  i think the nurse is smart to say no clomid.  my experience with it has been pretty awful, from soul-crushing mood swings to a uterine lining that just got thinner each month i was on it.  it did give me some very  nice follicles.  anyway, i hope the natural cycles work for you (and for my DP).  and i'm very disappointed in france, too.  i get so angry sometimes that i consider writing something, but DP and i are both just so exhausted from the whole process that we don't have the emotional energy to get up and protest.  when will you be starting the IUIs?

 

cananny -- that sounds like great news!  it sounds like it's just a matter of the RE getting the meds all figured out.  you're going to have that baby, girl.  i just know it.

 

gelly -- it's great to see you again.  i was wondering how you were doing and where you were in the ttc journey. what sweet pups you have!   i'm sorry to hear about the break, and i hope that your FET doesn't get called off this month.  i totally hear you on the age thing. i turn 40 in august next year, and the clock isn't just ringing anymore, it's screaming. anyway, i'll keep my fingers crossed that you get to go through with the transfer this month.  goodvibes.gif

 

desert -- aw, thanks gal.  we'll know more in a few days.  manni is freaking adorable in that hoodie.

 

anna -- salut and bienvenue!  you must be so excited about starting the ttc process.  as a veteran of the joy that is the at-home insemination, i can promise that there will be moments of giggles and probably grimaces of disgust, too.  my personal advice:  keep your nose as far away as you can from the sperm receptacle.  if you have any questions at all, we'll all be happy to share our experiences and advice.  and thank you so much for the info on the hsg.  it doesn't sound very fun, but if it can help us get that sticky bean, then it will be worth it.  we just have to hope our gyn will agree to order it for us.  so when are you and DP inseminating for the first time? how'd you find your donor?  are you planning on trying later, too?  tell us more :)

 

 

post #31 of 210
Amy/Lena: My prayers and thoughts are with you. How is it going?
 
Dessert: Wishing you threadkeeper's LUCK!
 
Krista: Wishing you a sticky bean! It almost brought me to tears to read about your amazing news! I hope you have an uneventful 9 months!!!
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rs11: So sorry to hear about the bad news of your donor....
 
Anna: Welcome on board! What an exciting time!
 
AFU: Our swim team officially arrived 2 weeks ago. Everything was going great--we were charting, taking temps, etc...and somehow DP missed O...which threw our whole cycle off! DP was supposed to start clomind around Nov. 26 (CD 3), but AF never came and still has not made an attempt to arrive. We are so anxious because our timing needed to be "extra" perfect due to the holidays and us traveling home. We are having a rough week b/c we are so disappointed about AF possibly skipping the whole month.. This hasn't happened to DP in a REALLY long time (she's very regular). We don't know what happened--but if everything had stayed as planned we would be doing our first insmen this week. SO dissapointed....We're hoping AF comes during the week b/c since we're doing an IUI at the clinic--we want O to be during the week so we can do the insemn as close to O as possible.   
 
Sorry for the rant...now we're at a point where we don't want AF to come until monday. We'll see.
 
Baby dust to all!
post #32 of 210

Krista: Here is your very well deserved baby parade! (Sorry if it comes out weird--using a nook!)

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post #33 of 210

Thanks to everyone for the good wishes. The support here is always so incredible. For now I am lurking and am keeping an eye on you guys! Sending all the babydust I can for some holiday time BFPs!

 

Krista

post #34 of 210

 

Cute pups!

 

nosreves: yes, I had an hsg - same thing. I was expecting the worst and was really scared and upset right before the test. But, you know what, it was not bad at all. There was some pressure and I had some cramping/light bleeding after but definitely not anything I would call pain. Perhaps because I've given birth before? Not sure if that makes a difference. I figured there weren't really any high risks involved and that it might improve my fertility so I went for it. I've read the entire spectrum of experiences from "the worst pain I've ever experienced" to "I didn't feel a thing."  The worst part for me was actually the days leading up and the antibiotics I had to take.
 

gelly: When I was ttc DD (I was 38) I was never told that my age was a factor by anyone. It's only now that I've turned 41 that I'm starting to want to put limits on our ttc journey. Not sure why, just feels like the time to stop soon.


Welcome, Anna!
 

Tiney, wow, that would be extremely disappointing! I hope AF shows up soon so you can move on to the next cycle.

 

 

Afm: This weekend went too fast. I'm SO tired and should be in bed. I this progesterone I'm taking is kicking my butt or something. I'm starting to think the hsg didn't cause the bloating/gas...I'm wondering if it's the prog. I think I've read that taking prog. during the tww can mimic pregnancy.

 

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Krista -Congratulations!

 

Nosrevs -good luck! I can't imagine having to leave the country to get isemed.

 

Anna -Good luck!

 

Thanks for all the support. I'm getting really nervous about the process, but I'm trying not to think about it. I have enough to worry about over the holidays!

post #36 of 210

Thank you all for your kind welcomes.

I really appreciate it.

 

I love the photos of your pups, gellybean and desert !

That red coat is cuuuute!

 

 

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Originally Posted by nosreves View Post


  so when are you and DP inseminating for the first time? how'd you find your donor?  are you planning on trying later, too?  tell us more :)


we are going to do our first insemination this evening, and again on Wednesday.

 

I wanted to ask you all about the timing, actually! 

 

S ovulates pretty regularly on CD12. We've used OPKs for the last 2 months which shows the LH surge on day 11.

 

So, as we have relatively easy access to fresh sperm here's what we're thinking:

1. pencil in the 'main' insemination for day 11 and confirm it with the OPK. She ovulates in the following 24-48 hours (is that right?) and the spermies are already there and waiting, which is what you want, right?

2. since getting hold of sperm isn't a problem, we'd like to do a second insemination. What would you suggest as the best timing for this one? Keeping in mind that it's recommended our donor not ejaculate for 48 hours before each donation?

 

Here's what we're thinking:

Inseminating 48 hours AFTER the 'main event' is probably too late as her cervix will most likely be closed for business by then.  So we're thinking of at least giving it a try 2 days before.

Since fresh sperm can apparently live in the cervix for up to 5 days?

 

Or are we nuts?

To re-cap: our insem schedule would be:

1. insem 1 on day 9, expecting ovulation on day 12

2. insem 2 48 hrs later (day11) after getting positive OPK reading

3. ovulation on day 12

 

If the OPK doesn't show the LH surge on day 11 we do nothing, hold off until it does.

 

I dunno...  eyesroll.gif

This makes the math part of my brain hurt

 

 

Back to your questions, nosreves:

Our donor is a friend of ours who is truly awesome! He actually came to us with this idea and as we'd been thinking of starting a family for years, we said 'yes, please'.

That was back in August and we've had many hours of conversations since then, drawn up a donor agreement, talked to his parents about it (oh, yes. we did!), had all our various medical testing done, etc. 

We were going to start inseminating in January, but we all feel ready now, so we thought what the heck are we waiting for. Let's get this shizzle on the road.

 

Yes, I am planning on getting pregnant later, too.

I'm a little younger (34) than S (39) so we're going to see what happens with her first.  Her hormone tests all came back looking pretty good, so this should work, but we also know of the higher miscarriage risks, etc.  Being pregnant and giving birth is not something she's really wanted all that much, but she also knows that if she doesn't at least give herself the opportunity to try, she might regret it later when it's too late to do anything about it.  So we're going to try and see what happens.

If this takes longer than she's willing to try for, or she gets to a point where she feels that she's given her body enough opportunity to do this... we may stop, take a little break and change tracks. We know we're lucky to have options.

Our agreement with our donor is for 2 kids- one each, and if all is well, perhaps a third.

So we'll see.

 

 

Am I right in thinking that you and your partner are going to try getting pregnant at the same time, nosreves?

You guys are nuts very brave!! No, seriously, I think that's awesome! smile.gif

 

Is your plan to actually be pregnant at the same time or are you trying to maximise your chances and stop inseminating once one of you gets a BFP?

Uhm, slap me if this is too personal, by the way.

I'm just fascinated.  

 

 

Anna

 

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So, as we have relatively easy access to fresh sperm here's what we're thinking:

1. pencil in the 'main' insemination for day 11 and confirm it with the OPK. She ovulates in the following 24-48 hours (is that right?) and the spermies are already there and waiting, which is what you want, right?

2. since getting hold of sperm isn't a problem, we'd like to do a second insemination. What would you suggest as the best timing for this one? Keeping in mind that it's recommended our donor not ejaculate for 48 hours before each donation?

 

Here's what we're thinking:

Inseminating 48 hours AFTER the 'main event' is probably too late as her cervix will most likely be closed for business by then.  So we're thinking of at least giving it a try 2 days before.

Since fresh sperm can apparently live in the cervix for up to 5 days?

 

Or are we nuts?

To re-cap: our insem schedule would be:

1. insem 1 on day 9, expecting ovulation on day 12

2. insem 2 48 hrs later (day11) after getting positive OPK reading

3. ovulation on day 12

 

If the OPK doesn't show the LH surge on day 11 we do nothing, hold off until it does.

 

Anna

 

Hi Anna: Welcome to the group. I hope you don't mind me jumping in with some possible modifications/thoughts to your plan. It's great that you've got such a serious plan down! Once we switched to a known donor and really focused, we hit it spot on.

 

1. Ovulation after a positive OPK can happen anywhere from 12-48 hours with the "average" person ovulating within 24 hours. You do want the sperm there ahead of the egg (better early than late) so insemming as you get the OPK and 24 hours after is a good plan. We actually insem about one to two days before I believe I'll ovulate and then the day of ovulation. I noticed for my three pregnancies we hit it when we actually insemmed the day before, during and after ovulation.

 

2. I'm not sure where you heard that a donor shouldn't ejaculate prior to 48 hours. Some recommendations are that men wait 24 hours but studies have shown that many men (especially dependent on their health and semen analysis) have no problem ejaculating a second time within 24 hours and still providing good sperm. Our donor works in 24 hour shifts so obviously something works there. But he's also extremely healthy although not totally young. I think waiting 48 hours is actually going to be a problem for you if you want to get the right number of inseminations within each cycle.

 

3. Fresh sperm can live for up to 5 days but that's when all things are perfectly aligned for both the male and female. 3 days is a better rule taking into consideration the things that could shorten that.

 

Some people inseminate every other day so this may work for you but we've always gone for every 24 hours for about 3 days in a row.

 

Best of luck!

Krista
 

 

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thanks krista

 

Lots of good info there.

And feel free to jump in!  It's so good to get some good advice from people who are really doing this stuff, you know?

 

I'm pretty sure I got the 'avoid ejaculating for 48 hours before' from Brill.

She mentions it when talking about getting a sperm analysis done.  Sperm apparently takes around that long to rebuild numbers, although some men can donate more frequently. It was also mentioned by the clinic who did our donor's sperm analysis, so I thought it was just a big no-no.

 

His semen analysis wasn't great (our doctor described it as 'less than ideal but for a vaginal insemination it should suffice') so I guess we're trying to do the best with what we've got.  I'm worried that if we time the insems too close together his sperm count will be lower each time...

but what you're saying makes a lot of sense, too.

 

I'm liking the idea of adding a 3rd 'after ovulation' insemination like you suggested.  If we time No 2 for the same day as the OPK, then put an extra one in 24 hours later it wouldn't matter as much if his numbers are lower for that one.

 

Great!

Thanks!

Will discuss this with my baby-making co-conspirators to see what they think!

 

Anna

 

 

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TineyDreams, that sounds SO frustrating!  I'm sorry things aren't working as planned.  Hugs.  

 

I've heard a lot that progesterone mimics pregnancy, Carmen, a lot of women on another board I read complain about "feeling" pregnant and then getting BFNs.  Not that that's going to happen to you, of course.  Because this cycle is your next kiddo, right?!

 

Anna, welcome to Queer Parenting!  Since you're going to be insemming soon, shall I just put you in "Braving the TWW"?  I think I will, and if you want to be somewhere else then just let me know. Glad to have you here, it certainly sounds like you've been doing your homework!  There is so much to learn, it can be overwhelming.  

 

Afu, swim team arrived today.  Still no positive OPK, but it's rather early for DW to get that anyway so we're just being patient.  Tick, tock... 

 

Also, the big news around here is that it's very COLD!  We've got hard freeze warnings tonight, because (*gasp*) it's going to be 28 degrees.  It's funny; the buildings here are just not built to handle such "extreme" temperatures.  When there are freezes like these, there's always burst pipes and gas outages because the gas company isn't used to so many people using so much gas, lol.  Hoping we make it through another winter with no major house drama... 

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I almost threw up today! I was so excited! And I've had weird cramps off and on all day! Also exciting! (And it's probably all because of the progesterone suppositories but wow, was it ever fun when I felt so sick I almost passed out!)

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