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post #341 of 584
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I am leaking but not pumping to treat oversupply so it makes sense for right now....

 

I also wanted to recommend this: I wear a tank or shirt over my bra/nursing tank. Then I pull up the top shirt, unsnap the bra/tank, and then there is that layer of fabric/padding so it keeps the grabbing/scratching to a minimum.  thumb.gif

post #342 of 584
I've been using the tips sara gave- kissing hands, etc. Its working fantastically!
post #343 of 584
Joanie, I never stopped leaking but I have been wearing different tops and noticing more. I know I produce more when I eat certain foods, too. I have felt like my supply increased and got richer, but I thought that the new baby was causing some of that.

Ash, glad its helping.

Our little guy hit Shay's birthweight and birth length yesterday at 4 weeks. Shay is now 22.5 pounds.
post #344 of 584

Alright so now I'm worrying that maybe something is wrong with my right breast... I don't have experience with plugged ducts or mastitis. Are there any surefire ways to know if one of those is taking place? The breast has been sore for two days ever since I had that really painful engorgement the one night. Last night I tried pumping before going to bed in hopes that emptying the breast would prevent another engorgement from happening overnight, but I didn't get much milk out even though the breast still felt like it had milk left in it. Maybe it is a plugged duct? It hurts deep in the breast and towards the right, almost like a muscle soreness... Any thoughts?

post #345 of 584

Oh no, Joanie! I'm not an expert with these things, so I'm sure someone will have better advice. All I can recommend is massaging the breast and applying heat. Letting the warm shower hit it is good. I'm not sure how to know if it's a plugged duct, but I have had mastitis. It felt like a truck hit me... like the flu, but with no symptoms other than the fever, body aches, and feeling horrible. So stopping the issue before it gets to that is the way to go (if possible!). Good luck!

post #346 of 584
Cabbage is good. Warm compress. Shower.

I have gotten sore from them getting enorged before without the plugged duct. If you're not used to pumping you might not get a good empty.

Mastitis usually has a hot spot, redness and a lump. I take grapeseed extract when I get it.
post #347 of 584

Soreness could be a result of the engorgement you had, but if it's continuing for several days and especially if it's getting worse I'd say that's a plugged duct.  I've had two.  Both times it was a localized spot that was clearly harder than the rest of the breast tissue and was quite sensitive to the touch- like a bruise.  It is very important to get rid of it quickly before it has a chance to get infected and turn into mastitis, which is awful.

 

I had great success with a pump.  As others have suggested, you could start with warmth, a compress of cabbage leaves or marshmallow root, massage in a hot shower, etc.  But the trick for me was the pump.  I had to have dh hold the baby while I went into another room to fully relax, turned up the pump to full suction (medium speed) and just sat there, relaxing as best I could until suddenly a huge gush of milk came out and I knew it had loosened and drained.  I continued to pump off more milk to make sure things were truly flowing and that was it!  If the pump won't work, try getting Sora to nurse directly in line with the sore spot.  What I mean by this is, picture the milk ducts flowing down from the sore spot to the nipple and aim Sora's mouth in line with that duct to ensure that she's suckling that duct.  Some women have more success with the aid of gravity.   So you can try nursing on all fours, breast hanging down and Sora underneath you, pulling the ducts and breast tissue down with her suction.

post #348 of 584
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We are STILL struggling with weight gain here.  Bettie is SO proportionate height/weight wise but has no "growth curve".  She has a growth line.  straight across.  And her 6 month check is tomorrow, 3 days after being so sick she was hospitalized for IV rehydration- so I just know that her weight will be down greensad.gif

Now that my "secret's out" I wanted to reply to this. lol.gif

 

Conner is on 8oz of formula every 3 hours SOLID. And sometimes instead (Or on top) the bottle he gets 2 jars of stage 2 baby food. He eats table scraps, Graduates, Mum Mums, whatever he can, basically.

 

He hasn't gained an ounce in over a month. *Shrugs*

 

Birth, 8.2.

 

2 months, 11.6.

 

4 months, 12.4.

 

6 months, 14.6.

 

Three days ago, 14.6. I weighed myself then held him and subtracted the difference.

 

HOWEVER, height...

 

Birth, 20''.

 

2 months, 22 3/4''.

 

4 months, 25''.

 

6 months, 28''!!!

 

Basically, keep doing what you're doing because your baby is fine. It doesn't matter what she's ingesting, she's going to gain as she damn well pleases. Trust me. I am SO thankful it is that way though, because everyone used to blame my BM for how skinny Conner was so I am SOOO happy that he stayed that way after he was weaned. thumb.gif

post #349 of 584
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Now that my "secret's out" I wanted to reply to this. lol.gif

Conner is on 8oz of formula every 3 hours SOLID. And sometimes instead (Or on top) the bottle he gets 2 jars of stage 2 baby food. He eats table scraps, Graduates, Mum Mums, whatever he can, basically.

He hasn't gained an ounce in over a month. *Shrugs*

Birth, 8.2.

2 months, 11.6.

4 months, 12.4.

6 months, 14.6.

Three days ago, 14.6. I weighed myself then held him and subtracted the difference.

HOWEVER, height...

Birth, 20''.

2 months, 22 3/4''.

4 months, 25''.

6 months, 28''!!!

Basically, keep doing what you're doing because your baby is fine. It doesn't matter what she's ingesting, she's going to gain as she damn well pleases. Trust me. I am SO thankful it is that way though, because everyone used to blame my BM for how skinny Conner was so I am SOOO happy that he stayed that way after he was weaned. thumb.gif

Thank you so much for sharing this! Im thinking about looking for a new ped....im just not feeling supported as a mother.
post #350 of 584

eyesroll.gif I got a break from the worst of the pinching for a week or two and now Sora has suddenly taken an interest in pinching me in even more painful places (the fat under my arms! AHHHH!). I am not a happy camper. I can't even reach her dang hand to move it when she's using the one tucked under me to pinch. FML.

post #351 of 584

Does anybody else feel like they're getting to a point where breastfeeding is just not enjoyable at all anymore? I mean, I know it's not this super fun thing in the first place, but I used to at least really enjoy the closeness and bonding time with my baby. Lately I don't want my nipples touched at ALL. Just the thought of it makes me cringe. I dread evenings because I know I'm in for a lot of nursing to get the baby down and staying asleep. I think I'm officially touched-out. Maybe I'm having some sort of hormonal shift? The addition of the baby's first teeth are also kind of a "turn-off" to nursing... duh.gif

post #352 of 584

Maybe your feeling this way because Sora has some bad nursing habits?  I mean the pinching and what not.  You seem to have a lot going on right now, and are understandably overwhelmed with her being so high needs.  Maybe this is jut a manifestation of those feelings, and not something that actually has to do with nursing itself?

 

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post #353 of 584
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Maybe your feeling this way because Sora has some bad nursing habits?  I mean the pinching and what not.  You seem to have a lot going on right now, and are understandably overwhelmed with her being so high needs.  Maybe this is jut a manifestation of those feelings, and not something that actually has to do with nursing itself?

 

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post #354 of 584

I don't mind nursing, but Greta doesn't like it. What do you do with a baby that doesn't like to nurse? She doesn't like to take a bottle either. She prefers to eat solids. She's gotten quite good at it and eats quite a bit. I know she can't stop nursing yet, though. I'm sure she doesn't get as much as she should during the day... although maybe she makes up for it overnight. She nurses 2-3 times overnight, but they are her best nursing sessions. She empties both sides then. She has to be absolutely starving to nurse during the day and even then I feel like I have to wrestle her to the breast.

post #355 of 584
Mal, that's quite a bit of nursing at night, it's probably plenty. Shay is nursing one side per nursing session and maybe 6 times a day he really nurses. A few more times than that he snacks.
post #356 of 584

During the day Greta nurses one side.... sometimes both but not often. And she probably nurses 4-5 times between the hours of 6:30 am-8 pm. Plus her nighttime sessions... Maybe that's enough. She sure hates doing it though. She thinks she is way too busy to stop and nurse. She might miss something, ya know!

post #357 of 584

Mal, that sounds like more than enough! Jasper is very scheduled with his daytime nursing. It's mostly his doing- he's just regular in the way he does things. Once he is up for the day at around 8:30, he only nurses 3 times until bedtime at 8:30. He ONLY nurses to sleep. Period. He will not nurse at any other time. So he nurses to go down for his naps, and he is almost always in bed for that. I don't know how often he nurses at night... probably 2-3 times. Also, he will do the wallow in bed nursing thing if he wakes up too early. Anyway, it sounds like Greta isn't nursing any less. Will she nurse easier during the day if you lie down to do it? 

post #358 of 584
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Originally Posted by dashley111 View Post

Maybe your feeling this way because Sora has some bad nursing habits?  I mean the pinching and what not.  You seem to have a lot going on right now, and are understandably overwhelmed with her being so high needs.  Maybe this is jut a manifestation of those feelings, and not something that actually has to do with nursing itself?

 

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This is good advice! 

 

Joanie, if she is biting a bit, it will pass. Have you tried lying down more often to nurse? (Like how that is always my advice?! Lol!) Then, you can get that hand out from near your arm. I know that is the most painful place to be pinched! Can you try pulling her arm out so it is smushed between her body and your chest? Have you tried having her sit on your lap straddling you? Also, maybe put her in your carrier to nurse sometimes. 

post #359 of 584

I haven't been able to commit to lying down for nursing all of the time. I do nurse Sora to sleep side-lying on the couch for typically one nap a day now, but the rest of her nursing sessions are spent with me multi-tasking while sitting upright. She is a snacker and a huge huge comfort nurser, so she's popped on and off the breast way too often to lie down each time. We haven't done the straddling thing too much. Maybe we'll try that again.

post #360 of 584
Yeah, Shay mostly only nurses to sleep now. Well, once when I think he should sleep and once when he agrees to sleep. We mostly nurse in the bed now. He will sleep in the sling or carseat and he will nurse in the sling. Before I let down he doesn't nurse politely at all. Latch, pop, latch, arch, latch, chomp. After the first couple of sucks I distract him and put him back to the breast once the milk is flowing. Then he will happily nurse.

Shay only wakes once at night, so he does most of his nursing during the day. He has lost a few ounces since he started crawling, but the boy won't starve and his pee looks good.

If he didn't nurse to sleep, he probably would nurse 2 or 3 times a day.

Haha, I have to swaddle him to get ointment into his eye, then he's so mad he wants to nurse.
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