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So I start work on Monday. I do not have enough milk! Not even close. I am not positive I will be able to maintain a supply that will provide him with 8 oz a day. What are my options? Only formula? It's just one feeding, but he will need something. I am not against formula, just wondering if it is necessary. Maybe as an emergency back-up? I would love to be able to provide him with extra in case he wants to use the bottle for some comfort. (That helped today on his practice visit.) Right now, I have 20 oz. I can pump 6 at work (probably). This leaves me with a deficit.

Since he is almost 10 months, could he have a little soy milk? Something else? Or does it have to be breast milk or formula, even if it's just one feeding of many?

Thanks for any advice!!
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How much solid food is he eating?  My guess is that he'll be perfectly fine with 6oz of breastmilk, a little water and some solids.  I left Coralie for 7 hours the other day and she was totally fine with just eating solids and drinking water.  She eats a lot of solids though, so I suppose it's going to depend on the baby.  Nurse before and after work, use the 6oz that you get and offer extra solids.

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How much solid food is he eating?  My guess is that he'll be perfectly fine with 6oz of breastmilk, a little water and some solids.  I left Coralie for 7 hours the other day and she was totally fine with just eating solids and drinking water.  She eats a lot of solids though, so I suppose it's going to depend on the baby.  Nurse before and after work, use the 6oz that you get and offer extra solids.

 

 

Thanks! He eats a ton of solids, IMO. An average meal might be 1/3 cup of cubed tofu, 1/2 cup of blue berries, and 1/3 cup of oatmeal. Plus, he snacks. To me, that is a lot of food for a little guy! I think my child care provider is just concerned with him having something there to comfort him. Maybe I will just have her offer him a few ounces of water once the bottle is gone. 

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Amanda - that sounds like a manageable plan. He'll get enough breast milk in 24 hours, I bet he just increases his nursing when you are home (and possibly more at night.)

 

So Oren has only gained a pound in the last 4 months. He was 20lbs at his 6-month check-up, and now he's 21. I know they slim out when they start to move, but this seems kind of crazy. People are starting to comment on how he used to be such a fat baby and now he... isn't. He's still big for his age, but not by much any more. He eats a decent amount of solids, but doesn't nurse as much as he used to, and he only nurses out of the left breast, just like his sister did. 

 

I seem to be changing his diaper less too, and plan to have him drink more out of a sippy.  He doesn't ask to nurse very often, but he wakes to nurse in the night quite a bit, and usually leaks through his nighttime diaper. 

 

Thoughts? I'm a little worried. 

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Amanda - that sounds like a manageable plan. He'll get enough breast milk in 24 hours, I bet he just increases his nursing when you are home (and possibly more at night.)

 

So Oren has only gained a pound in the last 4 months. He was 20lbs at his 6-month check-up, and now he's 21. I know they slim out when they start to move, but this seems kind of crazy. People are starting to comment on how he used to be such a fat baby and now he... isn't. He's still big for his age, but not by much any more. He eats a decent amount of solids, but doesn't nurse as much as he used to, and he only nurses out of the left breast, just like his sister did. 

 

I seem to be changing his diaper less too, and plan to have him drink more out of a sippy.  He doesn't ask to nurse very often, but he wakes to nurse in the night quite a bit, and usually leaks through his nighttime diaper. 

 

Thoughts? I'm a little worried. 

 

He's probably fine.  Olivine weighed 20lbs at 9mo and only 22lbs at 18mo.  They can't keep growing so quickly forever!  Coralie weighed 18lbs at 5.5mo and she maybe weighs 20lbs now at 9mo.  It's within the normal range.

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Our ped is pretty crunchy, and what she told me about breast milk deficit is this:  after 9 months, there is no need to make up a lack of breast milk with formula- offer solids instead.  As long as baby has access to nurse (or bottle)  4-5 times a day, they will be fine and healthy.

 

ETA:  B nurses like 10 times a day still and only gained 9 ounces in 3 months.  The ped was not concerned because at this age weight gain slows as mobility increases.

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Edited by jbk21 - 10/6/12 at 9:50pm
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Amanda, if you want to leave more, just pump when you pick him up. I pump when I get home from work and then nurse immediately after but you could also just pump the side he doesn't nurse on. I do think solids should make up for it, tho.

Kirsten, Shay has gained half a pound in the last 2-3 months? He is 24.5 pounds, so he is huge already.
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Amanda, what would you think of feeding Jasper a bottle of goat milk? I started giving Sora goat milk here and there just this week and she is doing awesome with it! Raw goat milk is as close to human breastmilk as you can get, as far as I know... but we haven't gotten it raw for Sora yet. We need to make a trip to my friend's farm for that. But you can buy Meyenberg powdered goat milk in the grocery store and mix it just like you would formula. I just bought a ton of that and also evaporated goat milk off of Amazon. Cheaper in bulk! (Plus I can drink it too.) Sora's first taste was kind of like, "What the heck are you trying to feed me, Mom? This don't taste right..." confused.gif but by the second taste she drank it down like any other bottle and likes it. I'm going to start thinning it out more with extra water, though, because it's pretty thick and I haven't compared calories/fats between that and formula... but I'll bet the goat milk is quite a bit fattier.

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B is the only baby I haven't had to supplement with and im having a hell of a time getting her to drink from a sippy cup. I offer it every day and she chews on the spout...but im not even sure she realizes liquid can come out of it. Any suggestions?


I used to have goats I milked and had lots of moms ask for raw milk. Lots of people use it to supplement for older babies. Good idea Joanie!
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Ash, I don't know. Shay chews more than sucks, too. He takes an open cup fine, I hold it for him but he can chug a lug on it.
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Thanks for the goat milk rec. I'll look into that! I just put 1/3 of my stash in a bottle for tomorrow. Sigh. 

 

Ash, I kind of taught Jasper to drink from a straw cup. I put water in a bottle and help him while he had a few sips. Then, I quickly switched to the straw cup. He already had the idea of sucking on something to get water, so it was an easy shift. I did that a few times, and now he mostly remembers to suck on the straw.

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For teaching them to use a sippy - I give it to them without the drip-free valve for a while - so they come to associate getting water to drink from the sippy sup. At first I help them, then I let them go at it and get wet (hey! sensory play while you're at it!) and then once they seem to like drinking, I put the valve in, and it only takes a few times for them to figure out how to get the water out. 

 

I imagine it would probably be easier for babies who take a bottle. They probably understand that sucking on nipple-like-thing = drinking. Mine never did, so it was a couple weeks of practice. 

 

Oren likes to drink from a cup too, but for now, I prefer him to be independent in his drinking and eating, and I have to help him with a cup. 

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Coralie uses a sippy cup from IKEA that is very narrow and the lid is shaped like a puppy dog.  There is no stopper on it, so it just pours out (slowly) into her mouth.  Yes, she still makes a mess and spills a bit, but it did help her to get the idea of using a sippy cup.  She still can't figure out a straw though.

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B is the only baby I haven't had to supplement with and im having a hell of a time getting her to drink from a sippy cup. I offer it every day and she chews on the spout...but im not even sure she realizes liquid can come out of it. Any suggestions?
I used to have goats I milked and had lots of moms ask for raw milk. Lots of people use it to supplement for older babies. Good idea Joanie!
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We have about 10 kinds of sippys right now, so I should have no problem trying some of these suggestions thumb.gif

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Hey all-delurking for some more of your collective wisdom

 

I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong but after J nurses he loses his milk. I put it like that because it's not really spitting up, there's some force behind it. Maybe it's just that he's been sick and is swallowing mucus (I used to vomit when I had a cold for that reason according to my mom). But it makes me feel like there's something wrong with my milk. He doesn't do it after solids. The ped said he'd probably outgrow it but it's still concerning. He's happy as can be, just vomits, plays in it (if I don't catch him quick enough) and crawls on. Sometimes happens after a bottle too, I'm told.
 

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Edited by jbk21 - 10/6/12 at 9:49pm
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Could just be an air bubble behind the recently swallowed milk.  When it pushes its way up, out comes the milk.  Certainly mucus can lead to vomit as well, but if it's more like the milk just pops back out vs. being expelled with milk curdles, then it's likely air.  If it has been partially digested (milk curdles, mucus, etc.) then it made it down to his stomach and is true vomit.  If it's air, then you could try burping him more between breasts or part way through the feeding.  You could also try different nursing positions like having him sit on your lap facing you with his legs straddling you to nurse.  If it's vomit and only when he's clearly snotty, then I wouldn't worry.  If it's not just when he's snotty then I would suggest probiotics.  Avery still has spit up and vomit issues when I run out of probiotics.  Some kids' digestive tracts need a little extra help.

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My DD had issues when I ate dairy until she was almost 2. I'm off dairy now, so I don't know if Shay would have the same problem.

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