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post #61 of 87

Oh there are so many things that Cristeen said that I totally agree with. My approach was about you changing what you can ultimately control and that is yourself. I really and truly hope that DH has shown you around town and that he does do one or two things with you when you are there. I was operating from that standpoint and maybe he 100% does ignore you and if it honestly is 100% then that really is a problem and it needs to be addressed.

There are a lot of factors here and we would all need the whole story to provide any real help. If this has been going on for several years and you have always sat miserable on the couch then he has probably shut down that part of his brain because he's ticked off that he has to "deal' with grumpy wife when he is supposed to be enjoying the thing he looks forward to all year. Perhaps you started off in a great mood the first time you went but as you realized how he was acting, you started to shut down and it progressed from there. Either way, it's a cycle that does have to be addressed. As for his family, they will always be on his side and your mom will be on your side, as she should be.

I still believe that it is once a year and that time is precious for valuable for him and that should be honoured by you. My husband and I believe that in being servants to each other and by putting each other 100% first, the other will never feel neglected. It's the weirdest thing, (I have just realized this lately) if I am "super ridiculously lovey dovey sweet" with my husband (which is hard for me because I am not that kind of a woman), he rejoices in my change of behaviour and our life gets better- noticably better, significantly better. My DH has always been the sweeter and more patient one out of the two of us and I took advantage of that for years. Now I am changing my own behaviours and I am putting his needs way before mine and like I said, the weirdest thing has happened, he has put me first. Neither one of us feels misunderstood, not heard or unappreciated (as we did for years and years).

He DOES need to know what you are feeling and you have to be clear and concise about it. He will shut down if it's the "same old.... same old". What's the old saying, "it's 10% what you say and 90% how you say it".... that is very true, especially in marriage. If he continues this behaviour despite YOUR efforts to be sweet, understanding, graceful and loving to him AND after you have spoken your peace then it's time to get down to the root of the problem but I honestly believe (and it would make for a good experiment to pass the time for you) that if you did those two things, you would see a change this year. Remember, don't blame- use your "feeling" words.

Also- please think about this; Now that I have kids, I think about things very differently. If MY son brings his wife home once a year and he wants to see his BFF and play video games with the BFF and his own dad- I will whole heartedly back my son up. He deserves that time (as you have already mentioned) and I would feel a little mad at his wife for making him feel bad about that time. If this were Deacon coming home after not seeing you and DH for a year, wouldn't you want him all to yourself (whether that's "good or bad")... the poor guy is being pulled in every single way. He is yours for 95% of the year, he needs this time.

 

There really was no need for me to write this because I know that you have already decided to go and give this a chance but this is something close to my heart as my DH and I have been working through our own issues for years. I KNOW exactly what you are feeling- trust me! I cried alone in our bathroom at 3am a lot when I was pregnant with our first. Every marriage is different BUT every single person wants to be heard, respected and loved. That has been true forever and if we make our partner feel like that and ask that they return the same respect and we do this each and every single time there is a discussion (it's SO HARD to do) then our marriages will improve.

 

Peace and love :)

post #62 of 87

aw, Janelle. you're entitled to feel the way you feel, and I understand. you're totally allowed to rant and I don't think it's selfish. I don't know how long you and your husband have been together total (like before getting married too) but it took me quite a while to learn how to deal with visiting his family. his parents like to use our visits as opportunities to talk to us non-stop about what we SHOULD be doing with our lives. nevermind that we're healthy, happy, make a good living... they have to make it know how we're disappointing them. it's really hard for me to deal with. I felt bad making a fuss about it the first few times but then I realized that his family wasn't getting to know me at all - they didn't know my limitations or my personality because they were just talking at me. on top of that, my husband and brother-in-law are SO LAME together. I mean, terrible sense of humor, random wrestling, days and days of bad pranks...

 

anyway, what I'm saying is that it does suck and I understand. I finally got through to my husband that I need breaks from his family while we're there, so we started borrowing a car, exploring the area, going to parks to go on walks, getting a one-week pass at a local gym... just anything to break the day up a little. I also knit, and love it, so that helps a little! crafts are always good.

 

as for excitement - this is my in-laws' FIRST grandkid and they're too wrapped up in hating each other post-divorce and focusing on my brother-in-law's sudden engagement and wedding to care much about me and soon-to-be baby. on one hand, I welcome the distractions because I really don't want their advice. on the other hand, I feel like they should at least be treating us a little specially. I'm just trying to count my blessings in this situation.

post #63 of 87

Cristeen - I don't think your advice is all wrong either. I don't know if I would make the once a year marathon gaming activity as equatable to 365 days a year/ignoring the kid leap but.....you may know or see something that I don't. My DH has always been a gamer and it has only been the last 2 years he has stopped but maybe an hour a night. He was always the type that though he wasn't hovering like helicopter mommy (me), he always knew when to drop the game and come help when I called him.

After reading your post I started thinking that a gaming addiction has GOT to be hard to deal with.

 

Linnie - I am sorry about your whole situation there. Honestly, I have a family in law much like what you describe. That is so sad about your MIL and the residing guilt you feel. Dang, I think we must be a lot alike. LOL

I have noticed the same exact thing as you - if I am extra loving to my husband (making his coffee, his fave dinner when he gets home, just being pleasant) it brightens his day and then he is so extra loving to me.

I think Ina May Gaskin writes in her book "Spiritual Midwifery" about "giving some". Not the sexual sense but in the loving sense. If we give some, we get some in a healthy relationship. We're conditional people, and I have seen the proof so you are totally spot on. It is something I had to practice, practice, practice but now its just how I want to feel with him.

Hope no one is gagging on corn syrupy sweetness.

post #64 of 87


I think that we are a lot alike too :) I love you ladies and I wish we could all go out for a glass of wine (ahem, cuppa tea) and have some girl chats! I love hearing everyone's POV's!

 

I have been doing the "making his coffee and fave meals" too and boy oh boy, what a difference. My dh does every little thing that I ask him to do and he works 12 hour days (sometimes 16, 17, 18 hrs) as a Police Officer and he works overtime and "paid duties" all so I can stay home. Then he comes home (sometimes after a gruesome, horrific shift) and lays on the floor and plays princesses with his left hand with DD and trains with his right hand with DS without complaint. He is a gamer at heart too (world or warcraft) and he still enjoy's dungeons and dragons (shudder- yuck) but he has put all that aside to be present with our kids without complaint after work. I think that we expect more from our husbands then ever before.

 

I have always worked and made my own money and I am VERY independent but since I quit my job in January, I have had a whole new perspective on how hard HE works. He always thanks me for all the work I do in the home and is so appreciative. It's amazing what a "Thank you" and a fave meal can do to change the day of your spouse. Again, this took us two kids (and this pregnancy), two jobs, lots of fighting and nearly 12 years to figure out. It works for us and I am not making the blanket statement that it should work for everyone but as I said before (in slightly different words) UNconditional love and respect make a HUGE difference in a marriage.

 

Like onemoreontheway said, I hope that y'all aren't puking from all the sweetness!!! I have to say that our sweetness is sooooo much better than the fighting, tears, power struggles, pissing contests and sulking that used to dominate our marriage.

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I think Ina May Gaskin writes in her book "Spiritual Midwifery" about "giving some". Not the sexual sense but in the loving sense. If we give some, we get some in a healthy relationship. We're conditional people, and I have seen the proof so you are totally spot on. It is something I had to practice, practice, practice but now its just how I want to feel with him.

Hope no one is gagging on corn syrupy sweetness.



 

post #65 of 87

Ok so done with that topic! Back to food cravings and body changes- lololol kid.gif (my fave emoticon on here)!

post #66 of 87

I really do appreciate all your suggestions everyone and everyone has great points.  My hubby is a hardcore gamer, we actually met ON a video game, so it's not like I didn't know what I was getting into LOL.  He assures me he won't be playing as much when we have our baby, and I tend to believe him but we will see. :)  I think if I can talk to him about planning some events it might be better.  Generally we go out to eat some with the family and I remember going shopping once last time, but literally the entire time we are at home it's video games.  I honestly don't know how they don't get sick of it.  ALSO, his BFF that we will see -- they play games together EVERY NIGHT on the xbox 360, so they have headsets and talk and they aren't missing out on that, so it's not like this is the only time they get to play together... they do this every night.

 

But anyway, I appreciate your suggestions and input, I honestly do!!  I think I will have a talk with him tonight about it and see if we can plan some outings while we are there so it's not all video games. 

post #67 of 87

Shastlily- oh, that's so sad for you and your sister. And so scary- to think things are going well and then knowing they aren't. You'll be in my thoughts <hugs>

 

Janellody- Sounds super boring. My husband is a gamer too- and it's better now with kids - he's cut back a lot- but we had a lot of fights about how holding a screaming baby and ignoring them while you game is NOT PARENTING. And if anything suffers now, it's our relationship because any time without kids is spent with him playing games. I knew what I was getting into as well but didn't realize how all-consuming it was, or how depressed he gets if he can't play.

 

For trips back to your parents- I feel for you. When we first started spending time with DH's family (they live in town here) I was always bored to tears. I couldn't imagine spending more than a day at a time with them, I felt like my brain was draining out of my ears from straight boredom. But now, I love my MIL and consider her one of my good friends. I think you've gotten good suggestions- both from just putting up with it and talking to your husband and/or his family to arrange time that doesn't leave you staring at a wall all afternoon. Crafty things are also a huge bonus, especially if they are complex enough that they require concentration so you can't look at the clock every 10 minutes!

 

I do the opposite thing with my hubby. I insist he comes back at least once a year for a couple of days to visit my parents- and I know he's bored to tears. We all sit around the dinner table for HOURS and talk and that's just not him. My parents are also kinda crazy. He plays a lot of video games or spends a lot of time on the computer or outside walking if the weather is nice to get away for us :P He's also incredibly allergic to their cats and is totally miserable for at least a solid week after we get there; it takes him awhile to recover. I feel badly for him but I figure once a year is reasonable.

 

Linnie- that's great. I'm JUST starting to realize that with my husband - realize, not actually DO anything about it!! During the early part of our relationship I was always the giver. Then we had kids and I was all "gived" out, I decided he was a big boy and he could figure it out on his own. Our relationship goes back and forth between miserable with both of us irritable and disappointed to not-so-bad when we both put effort into it. I realize I'm not being as "lovey" as i could be, but it's out of character for me and feels... well... stupid. But I'm realizing I need to put that effort into it all the time. I know he's trying and I'm really not. At all. But I'm realizing I need to be! SO now it's just a matter of actually getting around to it and starting to change my habits. You're a smart woman!

 

 

 

 

post #68 of 87

Astraia- it's SO not part of my character either. We always joke that I'm such a "guy" except I'm a guy in a pencil skirt and heels! I hate hugging and flowers and foreplay and snuggling etc... my husband is caring and sensitive and very loving. He CRAVES that and it took years and years for me to not feel "stupid" when I tried to give that to him. This is honestly really REALLY new for us. I have only been making big changes in the past year. He never asked me to make any changes, he wouldn't- he's not that guy but I couldn't stand my own behaviour anymore and I was sick of talking down to him infront of our children. I'm not as bad as it sounds but there was/is LOADS of room for improvment. Did I mention that after his 16 hr gruesome day and his hours playing with the kids, he ALWAYS lets me lay on the couch, on his lap and he plays with my hair EVERY single night and he has for years- he calls it "twisties". I felt like I was being "weak" if I showed him that I loved him. I wanted him to do all the work. Since my dating days, I expected men to chase me. WELL, I am 31 now and we have been together forever and that mentality was stupid and immature. They want to be told that they look good and that you notice how hard they work and that you are lucky to have them. They want to know that YOU think that they are a good father- that means the world to them. It's funny how I never said that stuff yet I expected him to shower me with praise (as he always did). Now that I am "sweet" to him, everything has changed :)

 

Sorry, I am supposed to be done with this topic but as I said, it really means a lot to DH and I right now especially heading into being the parents of three. We NEED our relationship to work and THRIVE. I have watched three close friends go through nasty divorces in the last couple of months and we will not do that. We won't stay because we "should" or "have to", we want to be in love with eachother. What better gift can we give our children????

post #69 of 87

Sort of off topic- but my uncle just found out he has shingles today. I will call my doctor tomorrow, but just curious about exposure to the shingles virus? I had the chicken pox as a child, so I should be immune? I had my blood checked already, and I assume they checked for CP immunity. Does anyone have any more info on it?

post #70 of 87
Maggie - I has domething very similar happen, and my midwife said that since I had it as a kid i'd be fine. Maybe give your immune system a little extra love (rest, vitamin c) and call your doctor if you start having symptoms, but really you should be fine.
post #71 of 87

Unfortunately, chicken pox does not always afford immunity.  It usually does, but some people seem to get it over and over.  Most doctors do not check CP titers unless specially requested - the only one I know is checked regularly is rubella.  You can ask your doctor to check them, but at this point I'd be keeping my distance until he heals. 

post #72 of 87
Thread Starter 

merry christmas, everyone!  safe travels to those traveling!  Hope everyone has a great time! 

post #73 of 87

From my family to yours- We Wish You A VERY MERRY CHRISTMAS candle.gif.

 

 

Kids infront of the tree.png

post #74 of 87

janelle, you are absolutely entitled to your feelings. I can relate somewhat to your situation. My brother in law is a complete gamer -- I mean, at Thanksgiving dinner (which he was hosting!), he left the table before dessert to play his new xbox360 game! My sister in law doesn't like it at all, but just shrugs and says "eh, thats what he wants to do, so I'm not going to nag him". I couldn't let that go! If that were my husband I would have pitched a fit and insisted that he get his butt back to the table with the rest of the family lol! So I understand your feelings - especially since you are left bored and alone in those situations. I hope that everything goes smoothly on your trip and you have a wonderful Christmas!! <3 

 

linnie, I love your sweet posts about your hubby. Police husbands have to switch gears so quickly from "cop mode" to "daddy/husband mode". I know after some of my husbands shifts he comes right home, changes, and plays trains on the floor too even though he is exhausted from being on his feet all day doing things I can even imagine having to do. You're right - sometimes just a nice dinner and some snuggles can change his whole day :-) ... also I love your Christmas picture! 

 

maggie, my best friend and coworker had shingles a few weeks ago. Her doctor told her that since I had gotten CP as a child, I don't need to worry. I still stayed away from her for a few days though just to be safe. 

 

I got up early this morning to make buckwheat pancakes (a holiday tradition in our family) and am watching Elf now. I love relaxing mornings like this one. 

 

Merry Christmas Everyone!!! 

 

post #75 of 87

You are so sweet Meredith! Merry Christmas to you and your family! Buckwheat pancakes and Elf sounds like a great morning- my DH is on nights now so he came home and went to bed. I am doing one of those egg masks on my face (lol) and the kids are watching Christmas shows and I am about to start cleaning the house because we are having my parents over for appetizers and treats tonight :) I am so excited that I am GIDDY!!!

post #76 of 87

I love the photo LinnieThree!  :)

 

I'm 19 weeks today, starting to feel more movement, really impatient to have LOTS more though!  Lol! 

 

I think DP gave me a cold- ugh.  Hopefully we'll both be over it soon- like by tomorrow!

 

Happy Christmas everyone!!!

post #77 of 87

what a lovely photo Lindsay! it makes me feel warm and toasty :)

 

merry Christmas, happy holidays to everyone! we're celebrating with Chinese food, knitting, and Netflix tomorrow :D

post #78 of 87

Thank you feministmama and maryamrose! It was a cute moment that I saw and captured it on my blackberry. I wish I had a better camera!

post #79 of 87

Love the christmas picture!! 

 

I am currently sitting on the couch watching the boys play fruit ninja on the kinect -- but I am not mad, it'[s actually enjoyable as I have never seen the kinect.  I tried it but whoa is it a workout for your arms!!  I am making the best out of the situation and enjoying the family time.  The kinect is pretty cool!

post #80 of 87

Linnie, that was the most beautiful picture. It brought tears to my eyes.

 

I've been really struggling. This is our first Christmas together as a family with just me, DH and DS. We usually travel to my inlaws for a huge Normal Rockwell type Christmas, but I couldn't do it this year. However, we are dead broke and barely scraped together enough for a decent Christmas dinner. Our tree is tiny and pathetic, and I was going to decorate it yesterday but ran out of time and energy (up until last week I was frantically grading and finishing up work for my full-time university job).

 

We will have presents, thank god, because family sent a lot of stuff to DS and some presents for DH and I as well. It's just not the fun, personal, exciting time I always imagined our first Christmas would be. It's been very humbling.

 

To add insult to injury, I have a bladder infection. Got antibiotics yesterday and thought everything would be fine, but woke right after midnight in extreme pain. Twice I came close to waking DH and having him drive me to the emergency room. I was awake all night, until 5:30, when suddenly everything subsided (I think the antibiotics finally kicked in).

 

Today I am simply worn out. However, I feel that peaceful feeling that comes from feeling normal again after being uncomfortable for so long.

 

Sorry for the negative post! Sometimes it's just nice to spill my heart. Thanks for listening.

 

Hope everyone has a wonderful and safe holiday!!!

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