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[wissa19]

Smiles --  http://www.firstresponse.com/fertilityTest.asp  (Just keep in mind that I have read high estrogen levels may lower FSH...making you think your FSH is low even if it's acutally high).  I understand your DH issues.  Mine is much the same...He actually said I'll get tested if you O and don't get BFP!!!  It's maddening.  Something about the fact that he once had super swimmer exempts him just make me ill.  I mean I once had a super egg!

Gemmine - NAC -http://www.lef.org/protocols/female_reproductive/polycystic_ovary_syndrome_02.htm  --  It covers other stuff to so you might have to scroll down.

Here is the basic info. --  N-acetyl-cysteine (NAC) is a stable derivative of the sulfur-containing amino acid cysteine and an antioxidant that is needed for the production of glutathione, one of the body's most important natural antioxidants and detoxifiers. While cysteine is found in high protein foods, n-acetyl cysteine is not. A large body of evidence supports the use of NAC in women with PCOS.

[deborahbgkelly]

It was AMH in my case. I got the acronyms backward. Although she may have done a combo.

Originally Posted by gozal 

Oh, I should have added, re: ovarian reserve - my RE considers AMH to be the strongest indicator, though she does the day 3 FSH levels as well.

And about that 13.5 dpo avg for bfps from ff - I have no business thinking this because I haven't seen the raw data, but I am pretty sure that's because the avg user, even on ff, takes a 50 mIU drugstore stick test. I am pretty sure if you ran the numbers on the 25 mIU and under tests you'd lower the avg by 2 days. 

Also, hi Wissa! What's new with you? 

[deborahbgkelly]

Hi Gemmine!

[SilaMarila]

Cbaa/Krunchy - Bought my NAC. When do I take it? Now? Continuously?  Or when I get AF then stop after I O? The info I found so far says not to take it when pg so I was wondering of I should stop during the 2ww or when I get a bfp? How much are you guys taking? The article says they were taking 1.2 grams, some other articles I found say to start lower (600mg) and then work up. My capsules are 500mg so I wonder if I should start with one or two? Either way I'm so encouraged by that study and the statistics of using NAC and Clomid together!

Gozal - Thanks! Getting pg asap is growing on me. After all it's what I want! Did I miss it and you already did your IUI? And the cramping is ovulating? And I'm with Smiles, what is AHM? I'm getting my day 3 FSH ect...

Wissa - I agree with you about stopping the Metformin before starting the NAC because I found some info saying they should be taken at the same time. I hear you on the ttc budget stuff. I think I'm going to cut out the TCM herbs this month. Especially since I'm just waiting for AF and then I want to see what the Clomid does and I just bought the NAC. And I am excited!!! Hopefully a step closer to our baby...

Gem - Scroll up to the top of this page and cbaa posted an article. We were talking about it a week or so ago too. NAC is N-acetlcysteine. It breaks up mucous and according to studies has been beneficial for people with pcos and cystic fibrosis. I think it is pretty much a form of amino acids (I'm terrible at chemistry) and it also boasts antioxidant effects. I get hot itchy bbs but I'm hopeful it could be a sign for you! You might as well request an appt for the SA. Especially if it isn't close by. Then you can get the results before you do the other testing. At my RE they like to do them in the morning I guess because the results take longer to process.

Smiles - Just suck it up and ask him! You need to know if you are dealing with 2 problems not just 1. My DH was the same. When I explained why he needed to do it - basically we aren't going to go through 4 Clomid cycles just to find out that I am ovulating nicely but your sperm aren't getting there. He didn't complain at all and just did it.

AFM - Hoping I will get a call today or tomorrow about the SA results. I don't remember if they are calling me or DH. My temp was up this morning but I was having hot flashes all night so I'm wondering if that is why and thinking it's probably just the Provera. I've had no fertile cm, closed cervix, and there is no way if on Monday had no follicles looking like they were even thinking about O'ing that I would O on Wednesday right?

[monkeyscience]

sila - Just wanted to say - the Provera raises your temp, as it's a form of progesterone. So your temps should be like post-O temps while you are taking it, and probably for a few days after you finish, since the post-O progesterone in your body is what raises your temps in a normal cycle. It should also suppress any follicle growth, so you won't be O'ing at all this cycle. (Progesterone-only birth control is what nursing moms doing hormonal BC use, though I'm not sure how the dosages compare.)

About AMH - also what my RE used to measure ovarian reserve. Mine was off-the-charts high, which isn't uncommon in PCOS. It stands for Anti-Mullerian Hormone, and I completely forgot how it measures ovarian reserve, though I used to know. I think it is somehow produced by immature egg cells, but that could be completely off.

About dhs who don't want to do an SA - maybe it's just pregnancy hormones, but I would happily slap them for you. It's not exactly an 'invasive procedure', and it's completely pointless to continue with ovulation induction treatments if there's 0 sperm present. Luckily, though not excited about it, my dh wasn't too reluctant. But I was also able to go along with him to the appointment and provide some... help... in producing the sample, as neither of us was comfortable with him looking at porn. Just my . Oh, and most REs I know of won't go forward with treatment without a SA.

[Sourire]

Smiles - honestly I think that any DH who refuses to spend a few minutes giving a sperm sample when us ladies have to deal with ultrasound wands stuck up in us, fluids shot through our Fallopian tubes, injecting ourselves with meds, sticking meds up in our private parts, all kinds of crazy side effects... well the guy who won't give one little sample is being a selfish jerk!!!!! I agree with monkey 100% that he deserves to be slapped if he won't do it (maybe its the Ovidrel injection I took last night talking haha).

Also - so glad to see another Canuck in our group! Where in Canada are you?

Question for those of you taking progesterone - do you start taking it immediately after O or IUI or do you take it later? I'm curious about different approaches.

[SilaMarila]

Monkey - Duh! You are totally right! So, yay the Provera is in my system and working!

[teresaresa]

Well, ladies. There are so many updates that I think it's futile for me to try and do personals. Sorry! I do want to say a special welcome to TickleToes. I'm so very sorry for your losses and hope that we can offer some support as you start on your journey with your RE. 

Cbaa: How was that bottle of wine the other night? I am going to have fun in Miami in a few days, let me tell you! Cycle buddies again for next month, I'm guessing? Let me know when AF hits :)

So,  DH's SA was overall pretty good. His count was off the charts (44 million - RE said 20 mil is avg) and motility was right on target (59%). Morphology was low (9%), but RE said that was OK b/c his count was so high. He said he wouldn't recommend him to a male fertility specialist at this point, but if I wanted the referral just for peace of mind that he  could give it to me. I declined since insurance won't cover DH for fertility stuff - he's too old :( I'm going to see if I can convince DH to take coq10 - can't remember who recommended that in an earlier post. 

My beta came back negative today. So, now just waiting on AF. I'm excited to start a new cycle as I was sure this month was a bust any way. I'm also excited b/c my RE is upping my Femara to 5mg/day. I should get AF while I'm away, so I have to call my doc on Monday to see if I need to go for bloodwork in FL. 

As for the progesterone questions I was having, my doc says that once you hit a progesterone level of 10, there's not much (if any) statistical difference of getting pregnant with a higher p4. I'm thankful to not have to take the prometrium. I really love my doc. He makes me feel so normal even though I know I'm crazy :) 

I'm so excited that we're making it out of January with a BFP!!!! Can't wait to hear more reports from KrunchyK!!   February is going to see more than one of us with a BFP, i just know it :) I feel like I could laugh and cry at the same time!

Super big hugs to you all!

[krunchyk]

Gozal – Congrats on the SA! Fingers crossed with the IUI! As an aside, working on a dissertation is such a complete and total pain in the ass.  I underestimated how hard it would be - not in regards to mental rigor, which is substantial - but in regards to the emotional challenge.  It is no joke.  And then I got the people that told me I would get pregnant once I finished.  They are lucky I didn't kick them in the shins. 

Sila – I would also vote for the glucose test, but also know that metformin still assists in regulating non-IR PCOS cycles (aka Me). 

Chica – I am really excited for your opportunity to be an expat! That’s amazing! I’ve always had a love affair with the UK and even studied abroad in London for a semester.  And, Downton Abbey! Also love.  However, it is a huge bummer that you won’t be able to birth with your friend. I’m really sorry about that.

Gemmine – I really got excited about meeting with the RE, as well. It felt really validating to answer all those questions because they are important, and some practitioners just aren’t trained to ask them.  I hope you like your new doctor!

Sourire – Great numbers! I’m glad that trigger was brief and painless for you. 

Renavoo - I'm getting ahead of myself, and have started thinking of this baby as my "free" baby.  However, this egg popped from my right ovary.  My right fallopian tube was blocked until I had the repeat HSG with tubal canalization in early December.  We just got the bill and it was about the price of an IUI with injectables - $2,400.  Geez Louise!

Cbaa - Just two days ago I created a comprehensive food and spice list from my books on Chinese medicine.  I am already taking every possible supplement out there, so I figured the next thing, besides a PCOS diet, was the "right" foods according to Chinese medicine.  I'm keeping it.  You know, just in case.  Here's to supplement regimes! (I'm a big fan. )

Tickletoes – I’ve had two initial RE appointments, both of which lasted about an hour.  We covered family medical history, personal medical history, the gamut of tests they would want to run, and then we worked out a mutually agreed upon plan of attack.  The planning stage was really validating, on both accounts.  The visit included labs on that day, as well as a schedule for labs for specific days of my cycle.  Additionally, they both did a vaginal ultrasound though I would assume that is due to my PCOS.  Lastly, my first RE had an insurance coordinator who reviewed my insurance benefits with me and gave me a rundown on the out-of-pocket expenses.  I do agree with Gozal, though.  Their approach may be quite different as you are presenting with a very different issue.  Good luck!

Tickletoes and Sourire –  I saw an amazing therapist for several years after my father passed to help me process my grief.  We also worked extensively on my anxiety around my grad program.  I’m extraordinarily thankful that I had the opportunity to heal in such a positive fashion, and I am a huge advocate for therapy.  I’m so glad that you guys have found a group/therapist that you are comfortable with!

On OKS’s, I’m with Sourire.  I don’t use them every cycle, but when I do I test every 12 hours.  I wouldn’t have caught my surge this past cycle if I tested every 24 hours.  Wissa, that is so interesting that you only test positive in the morning.  I have a healthy skepticism concerning utility/reliability of OPK’s, especially in the case with PCOS. 

On NAC –The newest study I’ve found, the one I linked to several weeks ago, was from August of 2011.  In that study the subjects were administered 1800 mg/day and were instructed to take 600 mg with each meal, which is similar to the dosage for met (not the XR met).  Sila, I don’t know about pregnancy.  I’ve never stopped for the 2ww, but your question made me google it, and I came across this study:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18983759

Essentially the authors argue that the body experiences oxidative stress when pregnant, which may be related to unexplained recurrent pregnancy loss.  NAC counteracts this stress, and, once again, our favorite supplement was statistically different than the control group when it came to preventing pregnancy loss, demonstrating a higher “take-home baby rate”.  I also found a study that demonstrated positive results for treatment of Bipolar Disorder.  This stuff rocks.

On SA – What is with men and the SA? My partner was really cranky about it.  It was ridiculous and really out of character. I was really flabbergasted by his attitude.  A blogger (Jenneper/Maybe You Should Just Relax) had all kinds of invasive procedures done, including a laproscopy, before they tested her DH’s semen.  Turns out she didn’t have any problems.  It was always the semen. Suck it up, guys. 

Thanks for the positive thoughts, words of encouragement, and prayers, ladies.  My bloodwork came back positive yesterday, my beta was 91 and the progesterone was at 11.  I was really excited about the beta – that seems really high for 10 DPO! The progesterone is a bit alarming.  I’m now on suppositories to support the pregnancy.  I’m returning tomorrow for another beta, and I am hoping to see a 180.  I did another FMU test this morning and it was darker than yesterday, though who knows if my blind eye can really detect a difference in those lines. Lots of action in my uterus both yesterday and today, but I have been extra critical of the activity as to not give in to confirmation bias.  If it were a typical cycle I would assume that it was just menstrual cramps, albeit early for me. However there is a slight difference.  This activity is more twinge-y and erratic, as opposed to strong and rhythmic.  Today, I’m cautiously optimistic, and will feel marginally better when my period is at least late. 

[TickleToes]

Brichole - Can you add me to the list? Thanks!

Tickletoes (36) & Hubby (45) TTC #1 since 8/10, 3 early losses on 11/4/10 , 6/14/11 , 1/19/12 . First fertility visit scheduled for 2/20. My chart: http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/Tickletoes

[SilaMarila]

Krunchy - Thanks! I found the info about BiPolar disorder (so cool!) but the pregnancy stuff! I guess I'll start taking it! Maybe I'll take 500mg 2x day. Your beta sounds great to me! When is AF officially late? Hoping that your hcg doubles! Will you be tested for progesterone again to see if it has gone up?

Teresa - Great news about DH's count! I hope that the RE is right and the numbers make up for the morphology. I'm sorry about the negative beta but glad you are so optimistic or next cycle!

To all the Canadians - I just came in from laying out at the pool. Sorry, I just had to say it.

[toothfairy2be]

KrunchyK- could we get a comprehensive list of your supplement regimin, pretty please! I am a supplement junkie.

This could be an adventure to keep us occupied for a little bit... Any other supplement junkies like to add in their list? 

Here is my list- with dosage if I remember it...

Coromega - Omega3 + D -- 2000mg fish oil, 1000 iu vitamin D

Rainbow Light Prenatal One

NAC Sustain 600mg (200 mg quick release, 400 extended release) - first thing in the morning

Inositol- 500mg 2x daily

Vitamin C- 500mg in the morning

Vitamin E- 200mg

Royal Jelly - 1 tsp in the morning

Tinctures- Black Cohosh (7drops), Propolis (30 drops), False Unicorn Root (15 drops)

Melatonin- 3mg at bedtime

Magnesium 500mg/Calcium 1000mg

CoQ10- 100mg 2x day

Pycnogenol- I don't remember the dose

DHEA- 10mg

Seriously, I spend my whole day pill popping... (or tincture drinking- or juicing)... I try to do 4 carrots and one apple juiced before breakfast, I haven't gotten more creative with juicing, sometimes I add half a beet, or a chunk of cucumber. Does anyone recognize things in there I shouldn't be taking together?

I'm going to start another post for personnels

[toothfairy2be]

Sila- c'mon now, that is just not nice. I'm not a Canuck (I'm not even sure I spelled that right)... but here in Massachusetts there is snow on the ground and it is dark by 5... so your pool lounging makes me almost as sad as my period starting today... Time to move to Calif forn iye ay. I am just taking 600mg of the sustain NAC first thing in the morning, I'm going to give it a week and see how I feel before deciding if I should take it at night too.

Thank you for another amazing article about NAC KrunchyK- I am seriously amazed that this past month was the first I have ever come across it. I'll be honest, I don't have PCOS. I do however have these nagging allergies, caused by mucous stagnation throughout my body (as diagnosed by eastern medicine). I sneeze every morning when I wake up... Today was the first day in months that I did not sneeze until I was at work (and who knows, maybe work is a trigger!) but I already feel different. I feel drier, or something. I also feel more hopeful than I have in a while...

Teresa- Hugs- the beta phonecall is the pits. AF started for me today, but we are still pretty close to being cycle buddies. Have  fantastic time in Miami. I am also taking 5mg of Femara CD 3-7. Any other plans for this month?  YAY for DH getting a good sperm count!!! My wine was and is amazing. I'm on to bottle #2... I haven't had this much to drink in over a year, I figure, I'm on AF, what is the harm... now if only I could have some brie and pizza... sigh.

sourire- speaking of brie and pizza... how is the endo diet going? does the sight and smell of cheese make your heart melt as it does mine? I'm excited about all of your stuff this month, I am so hopeful for you.

Gemmine-  that meeting is getting close! I was excited for mine too... did I say that already? I am a science geek, I like knowing every little detail, the hormone numbers, the follicle sizes, the look of my tubes and my lining... I would trade this vast knowledge of menstruation and cycles for a baby... but, if I have to do it the hard way at least I am learning a lot! Hopefully you never need to know this stuff and the itchy boob is a snuggling bean (btw, I hate that even not charting the signs are there... we are too conditioned.)

wissa- thanks for the article. I will be careful with the pill popping. I've been trying to evaluate what is used for what so I can take away or add as needed. I can't agree more that some things are better left un-asked. I did worry about my lining for a few days, but you are right, if they thought it wasn't good enough I would have been told (or would I?)... but your approach is probably better than mine... I'm an obsessor...

gozal- your planner questions are exactly what has already gone through my head. There is no time for grieving anymore, only time for 'ok what next'. I've always been that way. We are up for Femera 5mg CD3-7, Ovedril, IUI, followup 1 week after IUI, beta 2 weeks after IUI, along with my alternative treatments, Fertility Yoga, a plethera of supplements, and for the first time electro-acupuncture (I'm a little freaked out, but desperte to allow myself acupuncture shock therapy, woohoo). How are you feeling, transporting a little blasocyst down for landing at this point? pleae please please God and all that is good, be making a baby for gozal and family right now.

Okay, I am off for some Grey's Anatomy now, and to finish my wine. I recommend ApothicRed for any red wine drinkers... if you are into the $10 bottle variety, this is by all means a dessertish/drinking sweet red wine, nothing fancy. I save the fancy bottles for dinner parties, for AF I reserve a nice sweet warm red... at least, from now on I do... the days of booze-fasting for TTC are over... my new policy, drink til its PINK.

[shesaidboom]

I'm going to have to stop skipping days checking in here, because every time I do there are three pages to catch up on! Here we go..

cbaa - so sorry about the BFN.
The side effects of the drugs (and the lingering and changing) definitely worries me too. I try not to think about it, because like you say, the quest for a baby wins it over. My next ultrasound is tomorrow. CD10 for cycle monitoring.

rcr - glad to hear you're okay! I never know if my numbers are good or not, so it's good to hear the FSH is good. I hope the good start means a good finish.
I'm hoping you O'd, but a BFP would be better than AF!

krunchyk - Thank you! There is quite a sticker shock, isn't there? We are not looking forward to IVF fees since they are so much more. Hopefully we won't have to worry about that though.
Isn't the irony awful? I'm so sorry. I hope you get your BFP this cycle so you can carry out your immediate life plan as hoped.

renavoo - the monitoring is done by techs and the results go to the doc, but are transferred to the secretary who leaves a message on an answering machine for me to pick up. There really isn't much contact. The doc who does the procedure is also a different doc, so we can't even ask them. I hadn't thought of calling to ask though, that's a good idea. Thanks!
Your comment about how we were taught how easy it was to get pregnant and then having to spend 30k, I was saying "YES!" out loud. Thankfully we're not at 30k yet, but I never imagined how much it would take.

Sourire - glad to hear you made it through with teh femara! I just finished two nights ago, so we're on the same pace. I'm feeling a lot of irritability too. WOW! Triggering already. I was pretty nervous with the injection too, but also found it didn't hurt at all. Thinking good thoughts for you!
I'm going to have to do an OPK and a preggo test when I trigger just to see. I hadn't thought of doing that, but yeah, I'm going to the drug store tomorrow forsure! I'm glad the trigger worked :)

wissa - It would be nice if we really did know each other! I have had dreams like that before too. Thanks for the good wishes on this cycle. Leaving a message for a phone conversation is a good idea. I hadn't thought of doing that, but I will right away. Thank you!
I'm glad the tornado missed you and you're safe and sound. I hope you get good news this cycle!

silamarila - It really is overwhelming at that first visit isn't it? I also found I was greatful for having been on these boards and getting information here first. It made it a lot easier to understand and really know what was going on. I hope your first cycle shows great results and you get that BFP right away!

deborah - thanks for answering, I hope I wasn't prying too much. In any case I'm glad you were able to find something that worked and have two little babes growing now! I hope your cold/headache leaves you alone soon.

chica - I'm glad you had a good time out with DH. I know it doesn't fix things, but it's a nice distraction. Thinking of you.
That's exciting news about your DH's job, and quite a big move! I hope the sick goes away quickly. Take care of yourself.

gozal - I'm glad the IUI went smoothly! That's great news about your DH's fantastic SA! I hope that means a BFP is coming your way.

monkey - thank you. I'm glad your day is going much better! I can't wait to hear about your Friday appointment.

krunchyk - WOW!!! Wahooooo. I'm so excited for you. We definitely needed a BFP in this group! YAY!

Gemmine - I was very excited about finally getting all the testing done too before our first appointment. I hope your appointment goes well. I'll be thinking of you!

TickleToes - big hugs to you. As someone who has had several losses as well, I know how unbelievably hard it can be. It's just not fair. I'm glad you were able to find a support group and hope that the group brings you some comfort. I'm thinking of you.

brichole - How are you doing?

AFM, CD10 and first day of cycle monitoring tomorrow. I was feeling badly about this cycle, but now I'm actually really excited about it and can't wait to get going. I had a fun day out yesterday with a flickr friend and we went antique shopping and thrifting, and then had a long conversation about fertility stuff. She doesn't have fertility troubles that she knows of, but she shared a lot of her worries with me and talking so openly like that really helped a lot. I've also been keeping busy with a few projects, including a lot of wedding prep. I hope to see many BFPs coming up, including one of my own.

[Smilesarefree]

I should say that my dh may not have any issue with a sa - I just haven't brought it up yet, he may be okay with it...I hope!  Anyways, I plan to talk to him about it this weekend.  He's going to do it regardless what he thinks of it!!!!!

Sila - Hope you enjoyed your pool time, we're expecting a winter storm tomorrow!

Sourire - I'm next door in NB

[shesaidboom]

Brichole - would you be able to update my blurb please?

Shesaidboom (27) TTC #1 since 2007. Struggling with PCOS. Currently on our third IUI cycle using Femara, Ovidrel, and Progesterone Supps.

[Sourire]

Teresa - your DHs SA sounds wonderful! Hooray for high sperm counts!

Smiles - the storm you're getting tomorrow is probably the one that's just starting here in Montreal, though right now they're forecasting most of it will be ice pellets/hail/freezing rain which is the worst thing ever. I actually wish it was colder here so we could just get snow! BTW my job involves spending a lot of time on the phone with people working for the government of New Brunswick and they really don't make my life easy! Hehe

Sila - definitely jealous of your pool time especially since DH and I decided not to do our usual vacation to the beach in Mexico this winter so that we don't have to worry about missing any IUI appointments. I will try to cheer myself up with thoughts of our free healthcare hehe!

[SilaMarila]

I'm sending relaxing pool vibes to all of you  I am NOT cut out for the cold.

Cbaa - Woah I don't think my list is that long! Maybe I'll come back and type out what I do. I don't know about you but I've been at this so long it feels like I'm always searching for the next thing that might be the key. Then I get all excited. I hope NAC is it! How is Fertility Yoga? I just do regular not focused on fertility yoga. Do you do cool things about sending energy to your uterus and ovaries? I imagine you do more for 2nd and 3rd chakra ( Or is it 1st and 2nd? I get them mixed up) since that is the tailbone/base of spine and midsection uterus area. My acupuncturist has been doing the electo therapy thing on me for at least a month now. Because my body just isn't getting the message. Quite frankly I miss regular relaxing acupuncture! I like your Drink Til It's Pink motto. I'm adapting too it. I feel like I keep having to drink margaritas in case it's the "last one" lol. Please, come to CA!

Shesaidboom - Good job girl. Pick up that uterus and keep pluggin along. You better be hopeful because we all are for you! Man, sometimes it just feels good to talk to someone about this stuff. I randomly started talking to a pregnant woman at yoga today that I have only talked to a few times (but felt like we connected) about my troubles. So not me. But it really felt good to just put it out there into the universe.

Smiles - Hope the SA talk goes well! Stay safe and warm from the storm!

Sourire - Hmm, warm and tan vs. free healthcare. That's a hard one. I'm really excited about your IUI! I don't think anyone answered your earlier question, but the OB I saw this summer that wouldn't do any testing (so I ditched her) was going to have me start the progesterone when I got a positive opk. Not sure what my new RE will do and we will have to see how my progesterone comes back anyways.

AFM - I have obviously had a lot of time today. I'm pretty much just waiting for my clients to go into labor the next few weeks! And waiting for AF...

[monkeyscience]

cbaa - Are you just taking the black cohosh until O? My understanding is that it can cause miscarriages (and is in fact used in herbal abortions), so I would be careful with that. Hoping you have a good reason to stop drinking soon!

[toothfairy2be]

Originally Posted by monkeyscience 

cbaa - Are you just taking the black cohosh until O? My understanding is that it can cause miscarriages (and is in fact used in herbal abortions), so I would be careful with that. Hoping you have a good reason to stop drinking soon!

I only have a minute before bed, but I was only going to do it from when I finish the Femara (I know femara affects estrogen and I don't know how they will interact so I thought i should avoid that) until my monitoring day when they check my lining and whatnot... I am only taking a low dose, but I won't keep taking anything after like 10 dpo, I don't want anything affecting pregnancy... except my progetsrone... I'm switching back to endometrin this time, too.