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Alena is doing well.  Her moms death seems to be getting her a lot of attention (which she needs.  it is about freaking time someone paid attention to her) which is keeping her busy and well cared for.  Her dad is back in prison and her brother (18 maybe) had a baby.  she is really throwing herself into being super auntie. :)  Which is good because someone needs to look after the baby.  it seems as if a lot of people have cleared out of her house and her sister is back.  All good things.

 

The monastery is in Kanosha Wisconsin.  http://stchrysostomoscrafts.com/  http://www.hellenicheartbeat.com/monastery/album.htm  web design is not their strong point.  but, the first link has a picture of the church.  It is absolutely amazing to be standing in the building when the bells are rung.  and the second is a photo album.  it does not even begin to capture how pretty the place is.    It will be nice and restful and I am excited to expose my girls to life inside a monastary.  It is such an important part of how our church operates.

post #222 of 526
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I'm glad Alena is doing well. I've been praying for her. 

 

echo- Are you around? How is your husband???

post #223 of 526

Hi ladies, I just wanted to jump in and let y'all know I am still here.  We are just super busy right now and probably will be the entire time we are in Texas.  Dh passed his test last week to graduate from AIT so we are officially going to Hawaii in July (if he failed we would be pushed back to September) now we are just waiting on his orders to be updated with the correct date.  Dd and I are also getting ready to leave for a 10 day road trip with 9 other members of my family to go to my cousins wedding.  It should be an interesting and loud trip.

 

How is everyone doing? Do y'all have any big plans for June?

post #224 of 526

I decided I am going back to school.  this may be the most insane plan I have ever had.  But it feels better than no plan and all roads lead to poverty....but only one leads back out....so.  As much as I love serving coffee to people with more money and free time than me I think it is time to take the future by force.

 

So....

 

here is my plan, tell me what you think (by the way this is the really really really rough draft of the plan).

 

Get my poop in a group.  pay off my car and as much of my credit card as possible.  I loose alimony in October.  $500 a month.  Either way this has to get done.  

 

Apply for financial aid and gather as many grants and what not as possible.  I have to move now and move fast in hopes of being ready by fall.  

 

Then after fall quit my job (ok fine, drop down to part time at any other job)  and jump into J term.  File my taxes as fast as  I can and finish paying off debt with return.  also with new lower income file for better financial aid.  

 

then step off the edge of the world into the abyss and be a full time unemployed student living primarily off financial aid.  i would like to do this debt free but i do not see how I will ever be in a place where I can do that.  i will have some income, rent money and child support.  That's enough to pay for clothes, house,  utilities, gas and insurance.  Hopefully I would qualify for food stamps.  

 

Then power through all the way to the end.  6 years of busting my butt.  maybe I could squeeze it into 5 (I mean really,  full time student sounds like a breezy ride compared to my life now.  there is no reason I wouldn't be able to take a heavy load every  year and summers and stuff.  why do kids take this crap off if they are not working?)  But six years would have me entering the job market at 44. Ouch!

 

So the end goal:

Clinical Social Work.  I want to do crisis counseling with an emphasis on practical help towards getting your feet back on the ground.  Here is what I am envisioning...A woman comes in having just found out her husband is cheating douche bag.  she has been a stay at home mom for 12 years , has three kids, no education, no income.....She is paralyzed by the hugeness of her situation.  She has all the emotional issues and the grief, but she also needs someone to hold her hand for the practical things like where do you even begin with public assistance, how will I get a job, who can help.    So in comes counselor plus.  I listen, do the counseling thing and help her heal.  I also help her organize paperwork and give her a primer on navigating social services and job interview skills.  I help her deal with the grief and humiliation of her marriage falling apart, grief over having to enroll her kids in school and the pain.  

 

thoughts?

Is this the worst plan ever?

post #225 of 526
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John16-  I hope you have great trip. I love weddings.stillheart.gif

 

lilyka- I think that your plan is great. The only thing that would add is some money in the "cookie jar" I think that you would make a great social worker. Things that we live thru make us better to help others heal. I will pray for wisdom.

post #226 of 526

How do you guys handle other parenting styles within the church family? I'm struggling with this as I attempt to get closer to people.
 

post #227 of 526
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For me church is about coming together to worship. It is about learning about Messiah. NOT parenting.

 

Did someone say something or tell you to do something??? I know for me
I just don't care if they don't like XY or Z.....Jesus was b/f possibly till 3yrs or more.
I'm sure that women did nurse in font of Jesus and did not run down the hill "to hide" if he was teaching. Maybe they covered up BUT not all GO AWAYbfinfant.gif AND Jesus was NOT born in a hospital. He was a stable birth w/midwives. With animals aroundchicken3.gif. He was fine. Mary was fine.

 

Jesus/God has/had a good relationship with women and babies and YES even toddlers whom still b/f.

If anyone tells you different you tell them to talk to me.

 


You know church today has lost Jesus and needs to come back to Him. I'm sick of hearing about social issues in church. They are not in the right to tell you how to raise your girls. That is for the Lord Himself.

 

I have more to say but I will stop. I'm off my soap box now.soapbox.gif

post #228 of 526
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For me church is about coming together to worship. It is about learning about Messiah. NOT parenting.

 

Did someone say something or tell you to do something??? I know for me
I just don't care if they don't like XY or Z.....Jesus was b/f possibly till 3yrs or more.
I'm sure that women did nurse in font of Jesus and did not run down the hill "to hide" if he was teaching. Maybe they covered up BUT not all GO AWAYbfinfant.gif AND Jesus was NOT born in a hospital. He was a stable birth w/midwives. With animals aroundchicken3.gif. He was fine. Mary was fine.

 

Jesus/God has/had a good relationship with women and babies and YES even toddlers whom still b/f.

If anyone tells you different you tell them to talk to me.

 


You know church today has lost Jesus and needs to come back to Him. I'm sick of hearing about social issues in church. They are not in the right to tell you how to raise your girls. That is for the Lord Himself.

 

I have more to say but I will stop. I'm off my soap box now.soapbox.gif


Well...no one has said anything *directly* toward me but things have been said with me present I know they are bringing up b/c of me. I don't contest it b/c I'm a young Christian and do not know a ton of scripture yet..It's mostly just one woman and her daughter but they sort or run all the womens things...They have brought up how biblical spanking is, how biblical sleep training and other training is, and comment on how I don't limit my Bfing (like if baby just nursed and wants to again I let her)

 

I don't go around talking about how I parent but when asked if I spank I said "it's not something I support". I *feel* judged and they don't really see me as parenting biblically.

 

I have been REALLY struggling (silently) with how they parent though. I know church is not about parenting but when someone puts their baby in the other room at bible study and the kid is screaming herself to sleep for 30mins while we all pretend it's not happening...it's very uncomfortable for me. Or when someone openly spanks their child....especially for something ridiculous like climbing on the couch to see my new baby...well it's uncomfortable AND I don't want my children being subjected to it...

 

So this is my struggle....connect with a church family like God wants or worship him by myself and isolate myself from the church family...I keep feeling like I need to just get over it but when it's in your face it's hard to ignore...

post #229 of 526
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I think that it is sad. You know we should be caring to one another. LOVE one another.

 

Look, I know that it is hard to find a church! Let alone a APish church!!! Try to not let it bother you. TRY If you can.

If you like the church and the pastor then stay and learn of the Lord. Grow in the Lord and His Love and Grace.

post #230 of 526

This is something I really struggled with.  Not so much others judging me (I am generally too flighty and distracted to notice) but my judging other people.  anytime someone says scheduled feedings, sleep training etc is biblical I ask them to show me the scriptures.  (don't try this with spanking.  They can make a pretty good case)  otherwise my best comeback has been 'will pray for me.  that God will reveal His personal will my family?"  This whole pray for me thing can generally shut down the argument.  it makes  you seem open even though you are not.  It gives them something to do.  Has a hint of reminding them that God often has different paths for different families and in the end someone is actually praying that God will reveal Hos will to you.  win win.  As for my attitude towards others I just have to bite my tougne.  i am far enough out, and had to sacrifice enough ideals to know that it pretty much all comes out in the wash.  so long as the parents love their child and do their best (as is usually the case) chances are everyone will be just fine.  But I have to really remind myself often.  :)

post #231 of 526
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This is something I really struggled with.  Not so much others judging me (I am generally too flighty and distracted to notice) but my judging other people.  anytime someone says scheduled feedings, sleep training etc is biblical I ask them to show me the scriptures.  (don't try this with spanking.  They can make a pretty good case)  otherwise my best comeback has been 'will pray for me.  that God will reveal His personal will my family?"  This whole pray for me thing can generally shut down the argument.  it makes  you seem open even though you are not.  It gives them something to do.  Has a hint of reminding them that God often has different paths for different families and in the end someone is actually praying that God will reveal Hos will to you.  win win.  As for my attitude towards others I just have to bite my tougne.  i am far enough out, and had to sacrifice enough ideals to know that it pretty much all comes out in the wash.  so long as the parents love their child and do their best (as is usually the case) chances are everyone will be just fine.  But I have to really remind myself often.  :)

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post #232 of 526
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Just came back form the ER...Please pray for my son. Thanks

post #233 of 526

Oh no!  I hope everyone is ok.

post #234 of 526
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Originally Posted by sosurreal09 View Post

How do you guys handle other parenting styles within the church family? I'm struggling with this as I attempt to get closer to people.
 

 

I've not had my babe yet, and we honestly don't have a church to go to up here. Hubby comes home frustrated with all the legalism and now works on Sunday anyway. I know my SIL had to leave the church they were in bc the pastor was all bent out of shape bc they had their 1 and 2 yr olds (who are very well behaved) in church services. They did that bc they didn't feel comfortable with the nursery workers. They took a big leap, he'd been going to that church I think since he was saved years ago. This was a year or longer ago. From talking to them, they haven't regretted their decision at all.

 

Sometimes ppl don't feel comfortable with things because they have no experience with it, thus no knowledge. Maybe you can bring some around in time. Mom always said it takes about 2-3 yrs to really break into the inner circles of families and churches.

post #235 of 526
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BAD fall he will be OK.

post #236 of 526

Nazsmum- Praying for him, hope everything is okay.

post #237 of 526

Naz praying for your family!

 

 

 

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I've not had my babe yet, and we honestly don't have a church to go to up here. Hubby comes home frustrated with all the legalism and now works on Sunday anyway. I know my SIL had to leave the church they were in bc the pastor was all bent out of shape bc they had their 1 and 2 yr olds (who are very well behaved) in church services. They did that bc they didn't feel comfortable with the nursery workers. They took a big leap, he'd been going to that church I think since he was saved years ago. This was a year or longer ago. From talking to them, they haven't regretted their decision at all.

 

Sometimes ppl don't feel comfortable with things because they have no experience with it, thus no knowledge. Maybe you can bring some around in time. Mom always said it takes about 2-3 yrs to really break into the inner circles of families and churches.

The thing is I grew up in a religious household and we were "spanked" (beaten really...) and left to cio on eating schedules etc and I live with the effects everyday as do my siblings...so I have plenty of experience with it and it's reprocussions...

post #238 of 526
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The thing is I grew up in a religious household and we were "spanked" (beaten really...) and left to cio on eating schedules etc and I live with the effects everyday as do my siblings...so I have plenty of experience with it and it's reprocussions...

 


We were spanked, but never beaten. Sorry to hear that. Mom tried schedules, and they sorta worked. Esp when we were in school (she homeschooled all 6 of us K-12). We're all doing well, IMHO. :)   There's a difference between "religion" and a relationship with Christ. I think too many people just go through the motions and add too it, thus the legalism. : (

post #239 of 526
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Thanks everyone.

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I tuned on "christain" radio today and they were taking about parenting. I'm not sure what show it was. Did anyone hear it. I would have liked to hear more....

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