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post #241 of 526

Change of plans for school.  Counseling seems like a good plan for me but the job market is limited.  I had two solid ideas in mind of things I am passionate about and things I want to do.  So I am going with the other path I think.  I would love to go to school, get some training, something.  I should probably still get some schooling in business or something.  

 

So other plan: In a most scattered and disorganized still dreaming and not yet pruning kind of way..... I want to be part business part non-profit.  I work in a grocery store right now and watch people who shop with food stamps.  I watch stores take advantage of peoples lack of shopping skills.  I see food stamp totals and wonder "how on earth does this not last the month" (of course it is no mystery since I know what they buy). And what about those people who narrowly miss the food stamp cut off.  Who are operating on a net budget of even less.  I want to teach some basic cooking and shopping skills.  As well as urban agriculture stuff that help do anything from stretch the food budget to create self sufficiency,  (I also have a seed of laothing growing in me.  Working for a middle to high end grocery store really makes you think of them as low lifes.  And if anyone thinks local chains are better should get over themselves.  Down with big money grocery stores.  Down I say!  stick it to the man.  produce your own dang food.  When i clock in or out at work I use my finger print....guess what finger I use...just guess...it is a nice way to start my morning off.  ummm, i have derailed a bit.)  Ok I also want to teach urban agriculture, planting food bearing plants anywhere you can, having pet chickens who happen to lay eggs, or a pet goat you happen to milk :), using rain water and grey water as irrigation .  i also want to do all of this in a dirt cheap, eco friendly way.  I live int he hood and I want to serve the hood. I want to a resource for where to get cheap good healthy stuff.  An outpost for barrels and pallets and seedlings.  teach classes and provide a workshop where people can assemble their stuff with our tools.   To actually make money I want to market my skills to higher income people who need help with the basics.  Planning their garden, building coups, cold frames, plotting a garden and prepping the ground.  Landscaper for veggies.  I of course will need some power tools for this (heck yeah! I really think my life would be so much fuller if I had a table saw and nail gun)  i could install things like down spout water collectors and other trendy stuff for yuppies.  (I am gonna need a pick up truck too....)  And of course everyone loves a cooking class.    So i was thinking of starting out with a blog to record my experiments and showcase what i can do.  get my name and skills out there and gradually build up my business. In the mean time i start refining my plans for making raised beds, compost bins, and water collection devices and misc. ways to grow plants where plants otherwise would not grow.  Brush up on basic plumbing and electrical skills.  start collecting the materials I need and find out who my sources for cheap supplies are (where does one get pallets and five gallon buckets anyway?)

 

thoughts?

post #242 of 526
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Sounds good to me. Can I come to SD and take your class??

 

Will this be fulltime and another "job" part time? At least while your getting things going??

Do you have the start-up money? Do you know about how much you will need?

 

No matter whatpraying.gif for wisdom

post #243 of 526
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Down with BIG money grocery storeFIREdevil.gif

 

great!!!!

post #244 of 526

What station? Moody? If it was (or if it wasn't) might have been Focus on the Family? I didn't get to hear it yesterday so not sure what they talked about.
 

post #245 of 526
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MrsKoehn- I don't listen to christian radio very much at all. But I know it was not Focus of the family.

When are you due in Nov? My #1 B-day is Nov 10th.

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It wold be a full time job.  For now i would be getting things rolling while I work full time.  My plan would be to have it up and off the ground in 18-24 months.  I do not have start up money but since so much of it is labor....also I hope to get grants and such to work in my neighborhood.  

post #247 of 526
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OK so I know that I'm crazy, but I want to do a Lord's Supper. I would to have a big meal and then break bread and drink the cup. Like the early church. I'm hoping for Sept? or maybe wait till passover March 25??? No to long.

 

I'm going to speak to the sunday school teacher on sunday. We will see how that goes.

post #248 of 526
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How do you know that someone is your friend and not just being "christian"? greensad.gif

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OK so I know that I'm crazy, but I want to do a Lord's Supper. I would to have a big meal and then break bread and drink the cup. Like the early church. I'm hoping for Sept? or maybe wait till passover March 25??? No to long.

 

I'm going to speak to the sunday school teacher on sunday. We will see how that goes.

Oh that would be nice! I used to go to a Grace Brethren church in KY when I was a little girl. They did it that way and it was pretty neat. Candle light and a long table, I think everyone brought something for the meal. Then Pastor Sam read about the Lord's Supper from I think 2 places, then passed the bread and cup. I don't remember sharing it, I think we did the crackers you break off and the individual communion cups. Then they broke off into men and women and did a foot washing ceremony. That was the only time I was old enough to did it (I was saved at 5 but didn't get baptized till I was 10, I think this was when I was 11 bc we moved right after I turned 12). It made an impression on me, and I remember washing the feet of my old Sunday School teacher. She was about 70's and so sweet. It was still a very humbling thing to do and very memorable. I think it gave me a better understanding of what Jesus was doing as he washed His disciple's feet.

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How do you know that someone is your friend and not just being "christian"? greensad.gif

That's a hard one. I think for me, it's been shown in time. People are human, even if they are Christians. I've had that sense before, sometimes without cause, sometimes with cause. 

 

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MrsKoehn- I don't listen to christian radio very much at all. But I know it was not Focus of the family.

When are you due in Nov? My #1 B-day is Nov 10th.

Hmm, don't know then. Maybe you could look it up on the radio station's website and see what was playing at that time?

 

I'm due Nov 7, very close! Not sure when babe will come. I was my Mom's first, and I was 9 days early, next one born was 2 1/2 weeks early (wouldn't you know, he's the one that's 6'4??). The latest was #3 boy, he was 2 weeks late. So we'll see! :)

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How do you know that someone is your friend and not just being "christian"? greensad.gif

That is hard.  If they seem too missional.  Always trying to get you to church or always trying to save you.  If they only want to spend time with you during church ministry stuff (women's Bible study)  There is nothing wrong with being friendly or whatever just to show love but at the same time it does not fill the need for friendship the way a real friend does.

post #251 of 526
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MrsK- I am happy to know that you had a Lord's Supper!! It soundds like you had a very good expence.

 

I did invite a couple from the church. She told me they are VERY busy. So I told her to call me and tell me when they are free. (please tell me soon) Well that was almost a week ago and NOTHING!? I don't understand how long/hard is it to pick up the phone and call or whatever....just let me know. This is the "friend" We have been very very nice to them and they are I DON'T know???? Well this will be the LAST thing I invite them to!!!!!!!!

 

My #1 was born on his due date #2 8 days early and #3 well it depends who you talk to.

 

How are you feeling?  Where are you planning to have the baby? Do you know the sex?

 

I b/f so I sorry for mistakes!!!

post #252 of 526
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lilyka- I have treated them like REAL friends. I'm seeing they are not returning to sentiment.

post #253 of 526
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MrsK- I am happy to know that you had a Lord's Supper!! It sounds like you had a very good experience.

 

I did invite a couple from the church. She told me they are VERY busy. So I told her to call me and tell me when they are free. (please tell me soon) Well that was almost a week ago and NOTHING!? I don't understand how long/hard is it to pick up the phone and call or whatever....just let me know. This is the "friend" We have been very very nice to them and they are I DON'T know???? Well this will be the LAST thing I invite them to!!!!!!!!

 

My #1 was born on his due date #2 8 days early and #3 well it depends who you talk to.

 

How are you feeling?  Where are you planning to have the baby? Do you know the sex?

 

I b/f so I sorry for mistakes!!!

You know, I am busy like that too. It takes me a week to be spontaneous, on a GOOD week (which this one has not been). So it might not be anything. It would be nice of her to let you know though. Sometimes well intentioned ppl just don't do well keeping you informed. I totally married into one of those families and it REALLY annoys me sometimes. I'm getting better at dealing with it though. I went somewhere with my in-laws and their 3 teen girls last month. Oh man. Supposed to leave between 11 and 11:30. Okay, to me, that means be ready before 11. They finally got here at 11:45. : { So annoying, but I got over it. Lol

 

I'm feeling fine. Not even really showing unless I wear something tight, which is only around the house and rarely. Planning a home birth, and I really hope a water birth. I don't know the sex. We were able to volunteer to be "models" for the local pregnancy center last month. They were training their employees to use the machine so if any abortion-mined woman came in at any time, someone could give it to her. We got a few pictures, but we didn't get to find out the sex. This is a wiggler, but couldn't see what he is! Hubby thinks the trainer probably could have, but he didn't volunteer, and we didn't ask. We weren't planning on an US anyway, so we decided if we found out, we found out. If not, it's a surprise! :)

post #254 of 526

I wouldn't read too much into it.  some people just aren't the kind to make plans.   And you may be surprised how hard it is for some people to pick up the phone.  I can't really explain it but it is really hard to call people.  I don't mind texting or email but I hate getting stuck on the phone. I am surprised by how many of my friends feel the same.  Phone chat...such an awkward obligation.  Or perhaps the plan just makes them uncomfortable and they don't know how to decline without offending. (even as a protestant I could never have done communion like that.  but at the same time when my good friends suggested it i would just smile and nod...)  Perhaps start with something more casual.  Like hanging out in the park.  

 

Some people just have a harder time moving into close friendships than others.  I am sure people wonder about me a lot.  Casual friendships are just really hard for me.  Finding time for things like dinners and park dates is so overwhelming I just can't.  Kids, work, house keeping....all of it and then trying to get to someone else's house is almost impossible.  don't take it personally.  But I think it would be a blessing to them if you kept trying.  I know it may feel like there is no reward in it for you but they may end up being the best friends you ever had if you just keep working on it.  

post #255 of 526

Hello everyone we are finally back from vacation-how is every doing?

 

My cousins wedding was beautiful, and Dd made it down the aisle without hassle so that was good too, lol.  There was a lot of family drama, like I knew there would be, but you can't expect complete calmness when you have 12-13 people in a van for multiple hours at a a time, I just did my best to stay out of it.  In the end my Uncle (who is more like a brother since he is only 9 years older than me) told me how *pleasant* I was on the trip and how he noticed I didn't involve myself in any of the drama.  That is a huge thing for me because I am usually the annoying little sister figure in his life lol.  All in all it was a good trip though.

 

Now I am working on checking things off of my giant to-do list before we leave for Hawaii in less than 3 weeks!  It is coming way too fast.

post #256 of 526
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John16- Hope everything goes smooth for your move. WOW Hawaii!

 

I'm sad about not having friends. I really think that something is wrong with me. 

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Nazsmum- I know the feeling.  Coming home I have realized that all but one of my friends have moved away as well (by friends I mean people I actually hang out with), and the one friend I still have here is headed down a path I don't agree with so we are currently not talking.  It really stinks....I don't think anything is wrong with you though, I will be praying for you to find some friends.

 

Actually, on that topic can I ask y'alls opinion on something?  Is it wrong for me to want to drift away from a friendship with someone who is having an affair with a married man?  This woman keeps telling me I 'just don't understand' but the thing is that I really don't understand.  Christian or not I would never cheat on my Dh.  She said "What if you were staying with Dh just for Dd's sake, but you weren't happy with Dh?"  I told her that if I had made the conscious decision not to leave Dh because of Dd I would still not cheat on him, because by choosing to stay I was choosing to keep all the things that go along with marriage.  I was still hanging out with her, but all she does is talk about him.  I told her if we were hanging out she didn't need to mention him around me, especially if she didn't want to hear my opinion on the subject.  She said she couldn't do that so I told her we might not need to hang out.  I will be here for her when this all goes down the hole, I know God is seeking her.  She went to church with me a few weeks ago and felt him.  But I don't think she will go again because I know she knows what she is doing is wrong and doesn't want to have to face it.  I just don't know what to do other than pray :(

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Now I am working on checking things off of my giant to-do list before we leave for Hawaii in less than 3 weeks!  It is coming way too fast.

 

Wow, busy woman! Sounds great, but you will be busy I'm sure! :)

 

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I'm sad about not having friends. I really think that something is wrong with me. 

I went through that for about 2 yrs as a teen. Felt like FOREVER. I felt that way too. I felt that way again as I was in college, not really dating, attracted all the weird guys, saw all my friends getting married... What was wrong with me? In both cases, I prayed and cried a lot. I asked God to show me anything I needed to change. There were things, but nothing huge. In His time, He brought me to a new church as a teen and I met a girl my age who is still a friend. We were GREAT friends as teens. After college, a few years later, I met this YOUNG guy. He was 18 and I was 25. We're now married, very happily. It wasn't ME with the issues then. It was just that HE wasn't old enough. :) Hindsight is 20/20. It's a hard valley, but God will guide and grow you through it if you let Him. I know He's got great plans for you!

 

 

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Actually, on that topic can I ask y'alls opinion on something?  Is it wrong for me to want to drift away from a friendship with someone who is having an affair with a married man?  This woman keeps telling me I 'just don't understand' but the thing is that I really don't understand.  Christian or not I would never cheat on my Dh.  She said "What if you were staying with Dh just for Dd's sake, but you weren't happy with Dh?"  I told her that if I had made the conscious decision not to leave Dh because of Dd I would still not cheat on him, because by choosing to stay I was choosing to keep all the things that go along with marriage.  I was still hanging out with her, but all she does is talk about him.  I told her if we were hanging out she didn't need to mention him around me, especially if she didn't want to hear my opinion on the subject.  She said she couldn't do that so I told her we might not need to hang out.  I will be here for her when this all goes down the hole, I know God is seeking her.  She went to church with me a few weeks ago and felt him.  But I don't think she will go again because I know she knows what she is doing is wrong and doesn't want to have to face it.  I just don't know what to do other than pray :(

 

Pray is the biggest thing you can do. She's in the wrong but obviously doesn't want to look at it that way. Is she a Christian? If she is, maybe you can point out what the Lord says about that subject. If she's even open to it. I haven't been in that exact situation but recently one similar. I followed hubby's lead on that one since she is his sister. We just distanced ourselves from her in intimate ways, such as we don't invite her over here and we're not going to her house, but we don't avoid going to things if she's there and we do talk to her when we're there.

 

I think prayer is a HUGE thing in your friend's case. I would probably break off ties with a friend as long as she was in the affair and not repentant. All my friends are Christian though. If they weren't, which some online "friends" are, I would probably really pray hard and try to encourage them to see the truth of what they're doing to themselves and those around them.

post #259 of 526
MrsKoehn- Thanks for the advice. She says she is a Christian, but does a lot of things to the contrary KWIM? But then again I guess we all do. I have brought it up to her in a spiritual way before and she does not respond, so I brought it up in a practical way and again she didn't respond. She said she wants to find a new home church and loved my church, but every time I have asked her if she wants to come again she makes an excuse. I really think you are right when you say that she just doesn't want to face her actions right now. Your suggestions are similar to what I am doing now, I am not reaching out to her anymore and am not looking to hang out with her. I do pray for her, and when this all falls apart (which I really think it will) and she sees the wrong in her actions I will be there for her.
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 Is it wrong for me to want to drift away from a friendship with someone who is having an affair with a married man? 

Umm,  NO! It is not wrong. These relationships are death and anything it touches withers and dies.  And who is she to feel justified?  What about his wife?  What about his family?  What is his excuse?  And if she feels ok treating others this way it is only a matter of time before you fall victim to her selfishness and greed,. go ahead and be there for her when and if the shit hits the fan (although my ex and his lover were together for 10 freaking years!  but they did not live in the same town so it took reality time to catch up).  But I would be careful to keep her at a cordial distance.  Sometimes all it takes is someone firmly and repeatedly saying, this is not ok and i will not be a party to it.  But I would accept nothing less than true repentance.  not just break up self pity.  She is a  human wrecking ball leaving a trail of destruction in her wake.  She needs to admit what she did was wrong on every level.  not just be glad it is over.  Otherwise it will just happen again. 

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