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Foot in Boot. You should write a Dr Seuss type story about that one.....

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Oh my Nazsmum! I had not checked MDC in a few days and was so upset when I saw your post, but I am very glad of the positive update. I am glad you got to a doctor. I hope that you heal quickly and are on the mend. II will be thinking of you Saturday and I hope that you have a peaceful and fulfilling Lord's Supper. (And to answer your question, I am due Dec. 7th.)

 

lilyka - I had to laugh when I saw that you are babystepping through liturgy and hymns. Us too! We have been very committed to keeping both of our little ones in the service with us, rather than sending them to the church nursery, but it is only recently that I have started prodding our 4 year old DD to start paying more attention (rather than coloring and playing with pipe cleaners). So, we have a new agreement, she can color during the first part of the service (In the Episcopal Church, the first half of the service is the Liturgy of the Word which consists of lessons, sermon and prayers of the people, and the second half of the service is the Eucharist.), but colors and toys get put up when we pass the peace and then she has to pay attention and participate during Eucharist. Singing hymns with us has never been a problem because she is very musically inclined and she even has several favorite hymns that she requests at bedtime. With our DS (2 1/2 years), the goal right now is just to teach him to whisper during church, and maybe not demand a potty break just because he is bored. At this point, I am not concerned about DD missing out on the first part of the service because we use a great church school curriculum called Godly Play, and during the next few years DD and DS will really get to hear and experience lots of Bible stories in such a special way that will stick with them for years. Last year, DD heard the stories about baby Moses and the Exodus over several consecutive weeks and it was all she talked about to anyone who would listen for months afterward.

 

MrsKoehn - I just wanted to check in with the other pregnant mama on here! How are you feeling? Experiencing any nesting right now? We just did some major reorganization around here in preparation for baby. And I pulled out all of the newborn cloth diapers and layette to see what will work for this babe (and what we should have donated to Goodwill when they were outgrown a couple of years ago). I just entered the third trimester a few weeks ago and realized how little time I have left to prepare! I still want to make several baby gowns to add to the layette, and crochet a blanket just for this one. I will also need to buy a few pieces of newborn clothes for cold weather, because it will have been 5 years since I had a newborn during cold weather and most of that baby stuff was handed down several years ago.

 

Hope all of us have a nice and restful weekend!

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DeeGee- Babies and church that has been a hard one for me. I can't "talk" now but how do you moms do it???

 

baby crying

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MrsKoehn - I just wanted to check in with the other pregnant mama on here! How are you feeling? Experiencing any nesting right now? We just did some major reorganization around here in preparation for baby. And I pulled out all of the newborn cloth diapers and layette to see what will work for this babe (and what we should have donated to Goodwill when they were outgrown a couple of years ago). I just entered the third trimester a few weeks ago and realized how little time I have left to prepare! I still want to make several baby gowns to add to the layette, and crochet a blanket just for this one. I will also need to buy a few pieces of newborn clothes for cold weather, because it will have been 5 years since I had a newborn during cold weather and most of that baby stuff was handed down several years ago.

 

Hope all of us have a nice and restful weekend!

I'm feeling so-so this week. Getting less and less energy and less and less time to get things together! There's been fires here in WA that are about 1-2 hrs away but smoke cover sometimes bringing an ash cloud with it is NOT helping. My MW suggested charcoal pills for the toxic overload and I do think that those help some. Still tired. I think it's just the fact that I am getting closer and my body is saving energy.

 

Oh I have so much sewing and crochet to do too! SO much. It's pathetic. But I hope to get to some of it this weekend. I've almost got all my birth supplies, so that'll be a load off of my mind. : )

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Foot in Boot. You should write a Dr Seuss type story about that one.....

I will start working on it.

 

Loving Friday night. It is so cool and quiet tonight. I need this.

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MrsKoehn - I do hope you get some rest. The last couple of months are definitely the toughest. Perhaps some sewing and crocheting will actually give you a chance to rest some, too? Blessings and hugs and prayers for peace, headed your way.

 

Nazsmum - To answer your question about little ones in church, I think it really depends on the church. At our old Episcopal church, they had two different 9 a.m. services, one in the main sanctuary and one in the chapel. The one in the chapel was geared towards families with children, so I doubt our little ones would have been very welcome in the big service. But I LOVE LOVE LOVE "high church" (incense and hearing the Eucharist chanted by the priest), so I would have been missing out on what fills me up every week. We have also visited churches that had cry rooms, and in those churches I always felt like I had to go there to nurse or even to go there if the kids were just a little more wiggly than normal. But at the church we go to now, where we have been going since before our kids were born, the kids are very welcome in all the services. At the service we go to, there is a short children's sermon before the regular sermon. The priest calls all the children up to the steps that lead up the altar, and he (or she) sits and talks to them about the Gospel lesson, or shares a short lesson if it is a special feast day, or they have even been known to sing a song with them. During the service, kids are provided with "worship bags" which have crayons, paper, a book, small stuffed animals, and pipe cleaners. We also bring a snack (just dried fruit or cereal or something), because generally if they are snacking, they can't talk! As for babies, with my DD, I never quite felt comfortable nursing in church, so I would step out to the lobby, so I could still hear the service, and nurse right there. When she started walking and needed to stretch her legs some, that was also a good place to go. With my son, I had really loosened up about nursing in church (hey! Mary nursed Jesus!), and I would nurse during the service. We occasionally have days where my son will insist on going potty three times in one hour (he does it when he gets bored, and it makes me regret EC and early potty learning every time) or the kids won't sit still very well, and DH and I feel the need to apologize to those around us for noisier than usual children, but without fail, we are told that our kids don't bother them, that they have loved seeing out kids grow up, that are children are remarkably well behaved, and that they love sitting near us. I think because both of them having been in the service, pretty much every Sunday from just a couple weeks old, the people around us expect to see them there. Anyone who is bothered by it has either moved or never said anything, and several others have actually told us they moved to sit closer to us, because they love our kids, or they do provide some entertainment some days. My daughter is a great example, she spoke remarkably well from an early age and would join in the Lord's Prayer, lisping through it in her toddler voice, finishing with a very loud "Amen", the whole time about a beat behind the adults. It made everyone smile. My son did sort of the same thing, he would stop nursing to say "Amen" when he heard us say it. My daughter also used to "conduct" the choir from our seats, which everyone loved. I suppose that for most people, the adorableness and sweetness of small children generally make up for slight distractions. I hope that you are in a place where your children are welcome, and if not I would really encourage your to find a different place! Children belong in church and we should never be made to feel like they do not, because they too, are part of the body of Christ. 

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DeeGee - Our entire liturgy is chanted/sung.  Even the scripture readings.  i have to say, it goes a long way towards keeping the kids engaged.    I am toying with having my class sit together at the front of the church once we get going.  This would give the parents a little break and the kids tend to focus more on me than their parents. (I teach 1st-3rd).  We take off tomorrow with vestments.  Should be fun. I made a giant paper doll priest with a full set of vestments.  He turned out really cute. :)

 

Nanzmum - kids in church.  I have always had my kids in church and no help from a husband or anything.  Some days were decidedly better than others.  When i was protestant everyone over two was in for praise and worship and then we would send them out for the sermon.  It was a long sermon (45 min?) and even I would get antsy.   It also wasn't anything that would really apply to them.  At one church the sermons were really really inappropriate so I wanted them anywhere but in for the sermon.  Since no one over 6 went to Sunday school I would usually end p taking them outside to play.  When the girls were 4, 6, and 10 we started attending the Orthodox Church and liturgy is different. I feel it is important for them to be there even if they are not paying attention.  I can also be sure than nothing inappropriate is ever going to be said.  We always sat up front, never allowed toys and my expectations about church behavior were clear.  I had basic toddler issues with Ava.   When she would start to get squirrly I would take her out but she was not allowed to get down or play.  I made it seem that what was going on in there was infinitely more fun than the boring outside.  we would usually just stand quietly facing a wall while I soothed her.  As soon as she was calm we would turn around and go back in.  My 4 and 7 year old knew that life would be tense if they dared to move from their seats while I was out with the baby.  Thankfully they always behaved perfectly and I never had to come up with anything because i have no idea what i actually would have done LOL  When we started attending the Orthodox Church there is not nursery so I just had to cope.  It is also about twice as long as our old church.  9-12 I would let them wander around a little and watch the prayer candles, venerate icons or move in the isles a little.   The middle one gave me the most trouble and the older one would watch the baby while I took lily out in the entry way.  Sitting in a place they could see and hear was very helpful and recruiting help was also a life saver.  Once the girls were baptized their godmothers were amazing.  I actually did not see my girls for almost a year after they were baptized.  they sat with the God mothers and it is tradition for the godparent to take the child up for communion whenever possible.  And once we really became a pat of the community the old people feel free to chime in and tell the kids the straighten up.  I know a lot of people do not like it when other people correct their children but if my kids expect to be welcomed into the community they have to learn the social expectations and learn to be a part of that social community.  of course no one has been mean but they have gotten their share of scowls and correction.  And I have done my share of scowling and correcting and distracting of other peoples kids. heck even my daughters will correct smaller children. It is a small church and kids float around during the service and parents take one out while leaving the rest of the crew behind...help is generally welcome between the regulars.

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DeeGee & lilyka- Thanks! The hard part is my #2 his is so...I have no words.

 

Lords Supper- I really don't know what to say.  Parts where very good and parts...I have no words. OH well. greensad.gif

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How old is number 2?  I think with consistancy any child can be taught proper behavior in any situation.  It will help if you recruit someone in advance to help with your other children so if you need to leave or focus on instructing him, he can have your 100% attention.  Some very wise mama once said you may need to repeat your instructions/expectations 1000 times before  they get it and act accordingly.  If they act up a lot, look at the bright side....They are going to reach that 1000 mark really fast :)  but I cannot say enough about having a plan of action (when he does this I will respond by doing this: going out and waiting by the door, picking him up and holding him, taking him to a quite room while he calms down.  i really recommend avoiding the nursery all together if you do not plan on using it.  Once they know there is a toy wonderland where everyone else gets to go you are so screwed.  )  keep working on it.  he will get it eventually.  Oh, And look for ways he can participate.  The way we worship at my church is so id friendly.  people are always walking around doing stuff so kids have places to go and things to do without causing a disturbance.  It is also kid friendly.  People are happy to let kids look and feel and taste things.  What way can your child participate in a meaningful way without disturbing others?  Are there built in things he can do?   experiances you can create?  Who can you get to help you?  Old women are great for this.

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He is almost 4 and a very HARD kid. It took me forever to get him calm at all. Let alone church. I know that in time he will come around. It is going to take along time.

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MrsKoehn - I do hope you get some rest. The last couple of months are definitely the toughest. Perhaps some sewing and crocheting will actually give you a chance to rest some, too? Blessings and hugs and prayers for peace, headed your way.

 

thanks!

post #412 of 526
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Sept is almost over. joy.gif3 days to go.

 

OCT here we come...

 

How are you ladies doing? My husband has a friend coming this weekend. I not to happy about it.  (Really I'm just in need of a friend myself ) greensad.gif Sept go away.

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Tishri 15-  Sukkot (Lev 23:16;Lev 23:33-43)

 

Oct is here!!!!joy.gif

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Well, not doing much out of the ordinary. Hubby's week of muzzle loader season (deer) started last night. So that's where he should be coming in from here soon.

Been canning tomato stuff like mad. Getting the baby stuff all together. Making my lists, checking them twice, I have a belly that shakes when I laugh like a bowl full of jelly.... I think I need a red suit with white fur, black boots and a black belt....

 

Other than that, normal stuff. : )

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Well, not doing much out of the ordinary. Hubby's week of muzzle loader season (deer) started last night. So that's where he should be coming in from here soon.

Been canning tomato stuff like mad. Getting the baby stuff all together. Making my lists, checking them twice, I have a belly that shakes when I laugh like a bowl full of jelly.... I think I need a red suit with white fur, black boots and a black belt....

 

Other than that, normal stuff. : )

baby cooking santa...lol.gif

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jumpers.gif Hehe

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Question- Do you give a gift for pastor installation?? The church we going is installing the new pastor...gift? card? anything??

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Hi everyone! Long time, no chat.  I am going to try to make it over here more though, I promise.  How is everyone's October going?  Any plans for this month?

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This month is busy busy busy...Pastor installation is this Sat...Sunday 2 B-day parties and church. So we are just BUSY. This time of year is just busy. I really don't like the being in the car so much...OH WELL

 

Today we went to a homeschool "playgroup" it is for all ages. It was really great. (I don't say that lightly) My 6yr old was very happy and played with a few different kids. Which is BIG for him so I was happy to see him happy.

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Question- Do you give a gift for pastor installation?? The church we going is installing the new pastor...gift? card? anything??

We never did unless people privately did and I didn't know about it. I'm sure any welcome would be appreciated, just like a new neighbor. A meal, card, something. Esp if they're moving into a new home.

 

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Hi everyone! Long time, no chat.  I am going to try to make it over here more though, I promise.  How is everyone's October going?  Any plans for this month?

October? Plan to keep growing this baby if it kills me.... And today it is. 35 1/2 weeks! : O

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