January 2012 Whatever Ladies Are All Done Having Their Babies!

[MarineWife]

Member List:

lyeterae ~ Baby boy born February 2011
annie ~ Baby girl born April 7, 2011
Barefootscientist ~ Baby boy born May 30, 2011
AnnieA (due 7/18) ~ Baby girl born July 17, 2011
MarineWife (due 7/30) ~ Baby boy born July 25, 2011
Baby_Cakes (due 8/16) ~ Baby boy born August 16, 2011
MovingMomma (due 8/9) ~ Baby girl born August 18, 2011
akind1 (due 9/28) ~ Baby girl born October 11, 2011
mom2one (due 10/23) ~ Baby boy born October 21, 2011
jeninejessica (due 12/10) ~ Baby girl born November 29, 2011
Kindermama (due 1/6) ~ Baby boy born January 1, 2012



Here is the January 2012 Pregnant thread:

http://www.mothering.com/community/t/1340508/january-2012-whatever-ladies-having-babies-waiting-on-the-last-one#post_16809188

Here is last month's thread:

http://www.mothering.com/community/t/1337786/december-2011-whatever-ladies-having-babies-we-are-down-to-one
Edited by MarineWife - 1/2/12 at 11:02am

[MarineWife]

Can you believe we've all had our babies?! And a New Year's baby, too. How fun!

We had almost 50/50 boys and girls. There's one more boy but that's because we have an odd number in our group. How cool is that?

[Baby_Cakes]

I can't believe we made it to LwAB!!  Yay for us!  We've all been together since CTA, right?

Am I reading the title of our thread wrong?  Isn't it 2012? Or is it b/c we started in '10?  When did we all start our whatevering?  I forget.

Kinder - gorgeous!!  I think that nursing is normal. Bring that milk in, baby!! Such a sweetheart.  Enjoy your babymoon!

[MarineWife]

Ugh! Carrie. It's a typo. I tried to edit the title but can't find how. Used to be when you went to "edit" you could choose Advanced or something like that to edit the title but I can't find that anymore and I don't know what else to do. Do you know how to change it?

[Baby_Cakes]

hmm , everytime i start a thread, theres been an option to edit title up at the top.  its not there?  lol. nbd.  glad im not crazy.

oh, do u still use the milksavers?  i was thinking of getting them, but not sure i leak enough anymore. i still need pads, but idk if its worth it.

[akind1]

Yay kinder for a fast delivery of baby Everest!

I never was in CTA group. We did CTA for prob 6 months before whatevering. But weren't strict, bc e were open to close spacing. This time we are not, and I haven't anything to chart anyway, so it's just condoms for now, though I am seriously considering Mirena.

Wore Gabe in the Boba today for the first time on ages! He is wanting to be carried so much, and that is exhausting. So I dug out our Boba. He tolerated it better than I thought he would.

 Hope everyone had a great new Year's! I am so looking forward to watching our babies grow his year!

[annie2186]

[MarineWife]

i found it. there's an "edit thread" button above the title. i was trying to edit through the first post.

carrie ~ i do not use my milksaver anymore. i'm still leaking enough to need pads but it's not enough to make an effort to collect. if i use it every time i nurse, i might get an ounce a day. not worth the effort to me. if you'd like, i'll send you mine and you can try it. i've been meaning to find someone to pass it on to, anyway. although, don't you have a pump?

one of these days i'll have time to post about D's sleeping lately. it's really quite amazing.

[Baby_Cakes]

Originally Posted by akind1 

Wore Gabe in the Boba today for the first time on ages! He is wanting to be carried so much, and that is exhausting. So I dug out our Boba. He tolerated it better than I thought he would.

 Hope everyone had a great new Year's! I am so looking forward to watching our babies grow his year!

Nice using it for Gabe!  What's the weight limit on it?  I could go look it up I suppose.  I bet Nora could still ride.  She's only 33 lbs.

I'm looking fwd to seeing all the babies grow too!

Originally Posted by MarineWife 

i found it. there's an "edit thread" button above the title. i was trying to edit through the first post.
carrie ~ i do not use my milksaver anymore. i'm still leaking enough to need pads but it's not enough to make an effort to collect. if i use it every time i nurse, i might get an ounce a day. not worth the effort to me. if you'd like, i'll send you mine and you can try it. i've been meaning to find someone to pass it on to, anyway. although, don't you have a pump?
one of these days i'll have time to post about D's sleeping lately. it's really quite amazing.

That's what I was thinking, that I don't need every little ounce.  I pump sporadically, but get plenty when I pump.  I have a pretty decent stash, and haven't needed to use it.  I'm hoping soon DH and I can ask the ILS to babysit both kids, and we can get a late lunch/early dinner.  I would love that.  

I want to hear about amazing sleep!

We had a great night last night.  I consider it a good night when Finn nurses, goes back down w/o a fuss, and sleeps longer than 45 min.  I don't mind 3-4 nursings a night as long as he goes right back to sleep.  I'm at the point now where I'm pretty good at sleeping sitting up holding him.  A few times recently I've fallen asleep with him horizontal in my arms and not realized it until he woke up to nurse again.   Anyway last night was good.  Especially b/c he went back down after his 5 am nursing and we slept til almost 9!  All of us!  Even DH and Nora!

[MarineWife]

Haha, Carrie! I think Nora weighs about the same as Kellen, who is a year older. Did you see the photos of the boys eating shrimp cocktail that I posted on FB on NYE? The boy from next door is in them. He's only 3 or 4 months older than Ethan. You can see the huge size difference. My kids are soooooooooooo small. Ethan, who'll be 8 in less than 2 weeks, only weighs 48 lbs.

Dylan is not sleeping through the night or anything like. He does seem to be drifting off to sleep sometimes without needing to nurse or anything. He fell asleep in the car the other. When I got home and got him out, he woke up. I decided to try laying him down anyway and he just went right back to sleep, no squirming or fussing at all. Nights are kind of blurry for me so I'm not sure what is going on. It seems, though, that he wakes up sometimes and then just goes back to sleep. A few times he's been nursing and continually popping on and off until I couldn't take it anymore. I put my boob away and rolled over. He was laying on his back and then was just asleep. No fuss or anything.

[AnnieA]

MW, that neighbor kid is a giant! I think he's bigger than my 11 yr old!

akind1, that's awesome you could get Gabe in the carrier. Probably makes things a lot easier!

I'm so excited that we are in LWAB! And I love the title of the thread BTW!

I think I will probably do avocado for DD's first food. My sister's girls both loved that when they were her age and she could use the extra fat. Now the question will be when should I give it to her? If I go by weeks, i.e. 24 weeks instead of 6 months, she turned 24 weeks yesterday. But she won't be 6 months until Jan. 17. So what should I do? I guess two more weeks isn't that big of a deal. If I can hold her off that long! She is very close to just swiping stuff out of my hands at this point! She will not be deterred by practicing with silverware. She wants food!

She is also getting better about going to sleep sort of on her own. I can lay down with her in my arms still awake and she will just suck on her paci or play with it and fall asleep. So nice especially in the middle of the night when I used to have to sit up and wait for her to fall asleep before I could lay her back down.

[MarineWife]

I think that rather than going too much by dates, it's better to go by baby's development as far as when to start solids. You can always give her a piece now to see if she eats it. She may not actually get much in her mouth and more likely just play with it and must it. Be ready for some mess!

Carrie ~ I was thinking about the people buying the Baby Bullet. If they formula feed, starting baby a little earlier on purees might not be such a bad thing. Those babies wouldn't have a virgin gut, anyway, and it seems to me that real food would be better than the formula.

[AnnieA]

Hmmm, I'll think about it some more. I don't have a high chair for her yet so I would have to put her in the bumbo and she's still not great in that. I'll probably wait a few more weeks.

Re: purees. I think they are silly. But a lot of people use them. My goddaughter's parents still feed her a lot of purees and she'll be 2 in March. Yes, 2. They also use all those Gerber toddler meals and I think it's silly. But it's their kid. I would rather just give me baby food off my plate. So much easier than making a separate meal for the baby/toddler.

[MarineWife]

Those toddler meals are ridiculous. I think parents who use them think they are more nutritious for their toddlers than anything they could make. The fact is that they are very unhealthy according to the amount of salt, at least, that's in them. I read an article (maybe it was a blog) about that a while ago. It compared the salt and maybe the fat content of those toddler meals to those in a Happy Meal or something like that and they were very similar.

Why would anyone feed a 2yo purees? That makes no sense at all.

[AnnieA]

It is quite strange I agree. The month that I was working 8-5, I would go over at lunchtime to see DD and so O would be eating her lunch during that time. M frequently mixes up rice cereal with some sort of puree and gives it to O for lunch. Her justification is that she won't eat some of those fruits and veggies in their whole form so she likes giving her the purees so she can get a variety. Her feeding habits of O is one of the big reasons why I asked to go to nights and weekends so DD wasn't there as often. I am almost completely certain that if DD was there 9 hours a day still, M would be feeding her rice cereal and purees even if I said no. She just does whatever she wants. That's fine if it's her baby but doesn't work with mine.

Those toddler meals drive me nuts. When I had O for the weekend, she packed all those meals for her and I was trying to be respectful and feed her what she had packed because I would want her to do the same w/my DD if I packed special food for her but it was hard. It goes against all of my beliefs WRT food for little ones.

[Baby_Cakes]

Originally Posted by AnnieA 

I'm so excited that we are in LWAB! And I love the title of the thread BTW!

I agree!

Originally Posted by MarineWife 

Those toddler meals are ridiculous. I think parents who use them think they are more nutritious for their toddlers than anything they could make. The fact is that they are very unhealthy according to the amount of salt, at least, that's in them. I read an article (maybe it was a blog) about that a while ago. It compared the salt and maybe the fat content of those toddler meals to those in a Happy Meal or something like that and they were very similar.

I agree with this too!  And SO EXPENSIVE!  

My goodness, just feed your baby what you eat!  But then again -- what is the SAD?  Maybe b/c it's not much better, people don't realize?  If most american families are eating out or eating fast food, is it any different?  I did a few quick searches but couldn't find anything reliable.  A few news sites said that only 40 some odd percent have home cooked meals more than 3 days a week.  

That's true about the bullet.  However, I still think that at the very least for a small baby (3-6 months, maybe even until age 1) formula has to be more nutritious for their developing brains than rice cereal or fruit, or even a vegetable.  I think you are supposed to mix the cereal with formula so at least they still get that.  

Originally Posted by AnnieA 
I was trying to be respectful and feed her what she had packed because I would want her to do the same w/my DD if I packed special food for her but it was hard. It goes against all of my beliefs WRT food for little ones.

I agree with your logic and would do the same, and would feel the same way about it.  I know plenty of ppl think it's crazy my kids are vegan, but I would be very upset if they disrespected our beliefs and fed my kids meat or dairy b/c they thought it was better.  

[MarineWife]

Originally Posted by Baby_Cakes 

I still think that at the very least for a small baby (3-6 months, maybe even until age 1) formula has to be more nutritious for their developing brains than rice cereal or fruit, or even a vegetable.

Oh, hm. I hadn't thought of that. The purees would be fed in conjunction with the formula, right? And, I assume they would feed a rounded diet of purees but, of course, I could be wrong. You can puree meats as well so I wouldn't think it would just be fruits and veggies. Maybe so, though. I don't really know what people make with those things.

What's in formula that's so special? From what I understand, it's just supposed to be the proper balance of protein, carbs and fats with vitamins, minerals and maybe DHA and other fad supplements added. What would be lacking if you fed a well-rounded diet of pureed foods?

The SAD is definitely something to consider. I didn't realize the number of people who eat out that regularly was so high. Are the stats that differentiate between singles, couples and families with kids? That would be interesting because I can see how lumping all of those groups together would skew things a bit. Although, I guess with so many single parent and dual-working parent families, there isn't much time to make dinner during the week so many families with kids probably do eat out a lot.

Annie ~ Maybe she packed those meals because she thought it would be easier for you? If you are ever in that position again, you could just mention that it's not a problem at all to feed her child whatever the rest of you are eating and see what she says.

[MarineWife]

Oh, I forgot to mention something. Dylan was napping and woke up way too soon, only about 45 minutes later. I could hear him on the monitor moving around and making noise but he wasn't fussing so I didn't rush to get him. I continued to knit for a little while and then realized all was quiet again. I went to check on him (it scared me that I couldn't hear him anymore) and he was sleeping again. Now I feel kind of bad but, like I said, he wasn't even fussing much less crying.

[AnnieA]

Originally Posted by MarineWife 

Annie ~ Maybe she packed those meals because she thought it would be easier for you? If you are ever in that position again, you could just mention that it's not a problem at all to feed her child whatever the rest of you are eating and see what she says.

No, that's what they feed her at home too. We've gone over for dinner and they make this awesome meal that would be so easy to just feed to her too and then they heat up this prepackaged ravioli crap. I just don't get it.

As long as D wasn't fussing, he was probably fine. DD has gotten better at going back to sleep if she wakes up when coming out of REM cycle. But I usually have to go in with her and lay down. If I wait too long, then she starts talking to me and playing with my face...hahaha!

[onetwoten]

Originally Posted by Baby_Cakes 

We had a great night last night.  I consider it a good night when Finn nurses, goes back down w/o a fuss, and sleeps longer than 45 min.  I don't mind 3-4 nursings a night as long as he goes right back to sleep.  I'm at the point now where I'm pretty good at sleeping sitting up holding him.  A few times recently I've fallen asleep with him horizontal in my arms and not realized it until he woke up to nurse again.   Anyway last night was good.  Especially b/c he went back down after his 5 am nursing and we slept til almost 9!  All of us!  Even DH and Nora!

Totally agree. Last night was one of those where I woke up to DD rooting and was like 'geeze kid, you just finished..." only to realized that two hours had passed. I completely fell asleep either while she was nursing, or just after she pulled off. I don't even remember. Those are the times that make me nervous to be co-sleeping, because I was completely not alert to the fact that she was there laying on top of me. A bit too tired I was! lol

Originally Posted by MarineWife 

Those toddler meals are ridiculous. I think parents who use them think they are more nutritious for their toddlers than anything they could make. The fact is that they are very unhealthy according to the amount of salt, at least, that's in them. I read an article (maybe it was a blog) about that a while ago. It compared the salt and maybe the fat content of those toddler meals to those in a Happy Meal or something like that and they were very similar.
Why would anyone feed a 2yo purees? That makes no sense at all.

Working in the last daycare I worked in was a bit wakeup call. The kids all brought their own food, and this was in one of the nicest areas of the city. I worked in the infant room- so 10 months to 2 years... and let me tell you, some of the meals they were sent with were just sad. One particular kid, who was just short of two, almost every single day, he got; a yogurt, some form of cookies, applsesauce, his bottle and either lipton chicken noodle soup or kraft dinner. He would cry when we put it on his tray-- heartbreaking! In contrast, there was another kid, who just turned a year, who totally changed the way I think about 'baby food', because his parents did exactly what we're all talking about-- he got real food every day. So for instance he would come in with green beans cut tiny, with cheese over them, and roast pork in tiny pieces, and then avacado. Or he might have lasagna, or tiny pieces of chicken breast with quinoa or something. And the kid -loved- to eat, and would eat absolutely anything you cut in front of him. It really opened my eyes to what you -could- feed a toddler as opposed to what we're taught that you 'should'.

DD tries to put herself to sleep sometimes, but hasn't been successful. But it's cute to look at her, and you can -see- her squeezing her eyes shut and concentrating.