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New Study: Working Mothers Are Healthier

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http://shine.yahoo.com/work-money/working-mothers-healthier-study-220400211.html

I thought this was very interesting.
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http://abcnews.go.com/Health/video/childhood-obesity-working-moms-mothers-guilt-diet-kids-epidemic-children-12868879


So was this.
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Here is the first study

http://www.apa.org/pubs/journals/releases/fam-25-6-895.pdf

 

There doesn't seem to be a link to the second study but here's a longer summary. 

http://www.emaxhealth.com/4233/working-mothers-may-have-overweight-children

 

These both looks like really well done studies that involve a lot of subjects and control for various factors. So, as usual, whatever you do as a mom is wrong and here is clinical proof. Ta Da!

 

I've done both and my kids are slender. Being at home is far healthier for me than working for a bat-shit crazy boss in a freezing  office with dismal moral. I'm sure I'd thrive in a warm and sane work environment. 

 

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It was very interesting, and heartening to read. I am glad to hear working moms benefit from all they do. 

 

As for the other topic, well it is off topic, isn't it, and kind of trying to rain on this good news.

 

The good news about the second topic is "The study authors were careful to say, about their conclusions, that a mother's working is not the cause of obesity, but rather an association." 

 

 

They actually could not explain why the kids were fatter. It is interesting.

 

I am pretty confident that if all moms decided to stay home, the nation would still have an obesity problem. And if all moms decided to stay home, well, we would just have more depressed moms in the ranks. 

 

 

 
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As for the other topic, well it is off topic, isn't it, and kind of trying to rain on this good news.

No, not meaning to rain on the parade.. I just thought it was interesting that two good studies seem to indicate that while working is good for moms, it may not be good for kids. And there's the rub, right?
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The causality isn't always clear, though. Less healthy mothers may be less able to work. Which doesn't mean that the not working caused the health issues.

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First...I'd like to say it's adorable that moms working is considered optional. Most families in the US now cannot survive one just one income.

 

Second...many mothers have no choice but to return to work, often before their nursing relationship with baby is established, which (I imagine) would lead to working moms needing to at least supplement with formula, which has been linked to obesity in children.

 

Third...are men completely useless? How about instead of focusing on how IMPOSSIBLE it is to do EVERYTHING and not screw up, we could demand men step up to the caregiving plate. Seriously, 2012 and they still cant be expected to carpool or fix dinner??



 

 

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First...I'd like to say it's adorable that moms working is considered optional. Most families in the US now cannot survive one just one income.

 

 


 

Yeah, its really not so adorable to me. I have to work, if I didn't my ds and I would be homeless (well, he wouldn't be, he'd live with his dad and be raised by his grandmother - a woman with completely uncontrolled borderline personality disorder who is batshit crazy - I'm a better mother than grandma could be, even though I work full time!).

 

He's not obese (or close - but he's also only 3yo), and he probably won't end up being obese since that is not an issue on either side of his family. Either way, I still have to work.

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or it could be (speaking to the first study) that no one was meant to raise a child in isolation on one's own.  mothers (or anyone) who have some sort of other "life" outside of spending 24 x 7 with a child/children and being solely responsible for childcare are probably much happier. 

 

for some people, work provides that stimulation or outside activity or break from the duties of childrearing.  i don't think it has so much to do with working outside the home as it does having a mother/father/caregiver with options and a variety in activities and/or responsibility or even just socialization.

 

it just pains me that the second video dwells upon "mothers" working outside the home.  because fathers have no influence?  fathers don't stay home? 

the interviewee/ Dr Boyle talks about "mothers staying home" like that is the only option.  sick.  let's just pretend we're in 1955, shall we?

 

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Yeah, its really not so adorable to me. I have to work, if I didn't my ds and I would be homeless (well, he wouldn't be, he'd live with his dad and be raised by his grandmother - a woman with completely uncontrolled borderline personality disorder who is batshit crazy - I'm a better mother than grandma could be, even though I work full time!).

He's not obese (or close - but he's also only 3yo), and he probably won't end up being obese since that is not an issue on either side of his family. Either way, I still have to work.

I think that Mama2ChicknLil was actually being sarcastic in her response about it being "adorable". Of course it's a very serious situation that so many households require all of the parents to work outside the home. I felt that the video about working moms and obesity rates was suggesting that a lot of us work outside the home because we want to, rather than recognizing that many of us do not have a choice.
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or it could be (speaking to the first study) that no one was meant to raise a child in isolation on one's own.  mothers (or anyone) who have some sort of other "life" outside of spending 24 x 7 with a child/children and being solely responsible for childcare are probably much happier. 

for some people, work provides that stimulation or outside activity or break from the duties of childrearing.  i don't think it has so much to do with working outside the home as it does having a mother/father/caregiver with options and a variety in activities and/or responsibility or even just socialization.

it just pains me that the second video dwells upon "mothers" working outside the home.  because fathers have no influence?  fathers don't stay home? 
the interviewee/ Dr Boyle talks about "mothers staying home" like that is the only option.  sick.  let's just pretend we're in 1955, shall we?

All excellent points, Hildare.
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or it could be (speaking to the first study) that no one was meant to raise a child in isolation on one's own.  mothers (or anyone) who have some sort of other "life" outside of spending 24 x 7 with a child/children and being solely responsible for childcare are probably much happier. 

 

for some people, work provides that stimulation or outside activity or break from the duties of childrearing.  i don't think it has so much to do with working outside the home as it does having a mother/father/caregiver with options and a variety in activities and/or responsibility or even just socialization.


YES. THIS.
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These are interesting studies. Thanks for sharing.

 

Here's what I wish would happen as a result of these studies:

 

I wish we'd figure out how to better support moms who don't work outside the home so that they can be as healthy as moms who do. I wish we'd figure out how to better support families with 2 breadwinners so that kids can be healthy. I wish we'd figure out how to empower more husbands/dads to participate in family life so that women didn't have a disproportionate share of household responsibilities. I wish we'd figure out how to develop healthy food systems and communities where daily physical activity is part of the natural flow of life, so that obesity was less likely for everyone. I wish we'd figure out how to live more simply and in supportive communities, so that all parents felt that the choice to work outside the home really was a choice.

 

But we'll probably just argue over the ways that women screw everything up by not being perfect. *sigh*

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No, not meaning to rain on the parade.. I just thought it was interesting that two good studies seem to indicate that while working is good for moms, it may not be good for kids. And there's the rub, right?


Actually, only one of the studies suggests that working is not good for kids (the one about childhood obesity rates for children of working mothers). The other study just shows that there's an association between working part-time and better health outcomes for mom. There's nothing in that one to suggest that there's a negative consequence for kids.

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I think that Mama2ChicknLil was actually being sarcastic in her response about it being "adorable". Of course it's a very serious situation that so many households require all of the parents to work outside the home. I felt that the video about working moms and obesity rates was suggesting that a lot of us work outside the home because we want to, rather than recognizing that many of us do not have a choice.



Ineed...this medium always gets me in trouble. Sheepish.gif

 

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Uh, as a working mother, I'm healthier.  Less stressed and much happier... WHY?  Because DH stays home and does all the crap that I hate to do.  He's happy, I'm happy, kids are happy and not fat.   Honestly I really hate these kinds of studies.  I feel they do nothing but cause more division.  Trying to validate why any one choice is wrong or right.  We do what we gotta do in this life to get by and we do not need studies to cause guilt or further the division that is already in place.  Besides next year the study will change to say SAHM's are more capable of doing the splits and can cook broccoli casserole better than working moms. 

 

Meh... 

 

 

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Uh, as a working mother, I'm healthier.  Less stressed and much happier... WHY?  Because DH stays home and does all the crap that I hate to do.  He's happy, I'm happy, kids are happy and not fat.   Honestly I really hate these kinds of studies.  I feel they do nothing but cause more division.  Trying to validate why any one choice is wrong or right.  We do what we gotta do in this life to get by and we do not need studies to cause guilt or further the division that is already in place.  Besides next year the study will change to say SAHM's are more capable of doing the splits and can cook broccoli casserole better than working moms. 

 

Meh... 

 

 


I'll put my broccoli casserole up against anyone's, working or not. eat.gif
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hey that study has not been published yet! 
 

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I'll put my broccoli casserole up against anyone's, working or not. eat.gif


 

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Ineed...this medium always gets me in trouble. Sheepish.gif

 



I knew you were being sarcastic. I just always get mad at the whole, "working moms basically suck because they don't raise their children and obviously don't care about them or they would do what is best and SAH like they are supposed to so that their kids always have a parent at home that is devoted to nothing but them" BS that I get all the time on this board. I like mothering, but mostly just for the single parenting board, at least the other single mamas understand that working isn't optional when a roof isn't possible without a paycheck. I know many 2-parent households also need 2 paychecks to survive, and I support any mother who wants to work or SAH, but don't claim to be a better mom just because you SAH and raise babies all day long while I work so that I'm ABLE to raise my baby.

 

Ok, that was a rant, and NOT directed at you. I know you were being sarcastic earlier. blowkiss.gif

 

Ok, I'm not done ranting. I also HATE the implication that if women don't HAVE to work outside the home, or if a family doesn't NEED 2 paychecks, then its wrong for both parents to work. Seriously, some of us LIKE to work. Some of us LIKE our jobs. That doesn't make us bad parents. We can LIKE working AND love our children more than life itself. Seriously. I LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE my ds. If I'm home with him all day he drives me nuts. I still LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE him though. And I also LOVE my job. Seriously, I landed my dream job - its good for him to see me doing something I LOVE (as opposed to staying home and being miserable all the time!) so that he knows that its possible to LOVE your job, and it benefits him to have a happy mom pick him up from school every day. And, to boot, he's WAY more social than I am. I hate parties, I don't like being around massive amounts of people day in and day out - him? He'd rather be in a room of 100 people than a room with just me. So, school is good for him. I could not give him the social outlet that he craves if I was a SAHM. It wouldn't be possible. At school he gets that, and its important. I get what I need, he gets what he needs, and we both go home happy but tired at the end of the day.

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Ok, I'm not done ranting. I also HATE the implication that if women don't HAVE to work outside the home, or if a family doesn't NEED 2 paychecks, then its wrong for both parents to work. Seriously, some of us LIKE to work. Some of us LIKE our jobs. That doesn't make us bad parents. We can LIKE working AND love our children more than life itself. Seriously. I LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE my ds. If I'm home with him all day he drives me nuts. I still LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE him though. And I also LOVE my job. Seriously, I landed my dream job - its good for him to see me doing something I LOVE (as opposed to staying home and being miserable all the time!) so that he knows that its possible to LOVE your job, and it benefits him to have a happy mom pick him up from school every day. And, to boot, he's WAY more social than I am. I hate parties, I don't like being around massive amounts of people day in and day out - him? He'd rather be in a room of 100 people than a room with just me. So, school is good for him. I could not give him the social outlet that he craves if I was a SAHM. It wouldn't be possible. At school he gets that, and its important. I get what I need, he gets what he needs, and we both go home happy but tired at the end of the day.

Amen, sister. I work because it's not only best for me, but it's best for my daughter. She has amazing relationships and experiences through her babysitter & her school, and she gets a happy mama to boot. What's the down side to that?

 

I wish we could get out of the mentality of "working" vs. "not working" is good/bad. Here's what's good: mothers who have support to lead balanced, healthy lives, regardless of their work situation, and kids who have all the support they need to grow & learn & meet their potential. Here's what's bad: mothers who feel stuck in a situation they don't want and feel powerless to change it and kids who aren't thriving. Not every person or family is the same or needs the same thing in order to flourish. That's OK!!!!
 

 

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