Charting with fluctuating indoor temp/sweatiness

[aprilshower]

This week, we've been having fluctuating weather.  Cold one day, warm the next, etc.  So at night, it might be really cold requiring lots of blankets.  Or it might be not as cold, but I still have all the blankets - and end up a bit sweaty.

I'm just wondering how this affects my basal temp - or if it does?

Will waking sweaty make my temp higher or lower?  I kind of think lower, since that goes along with the fever thinking from my childhood.  My mom would always want to bundle me up, and then my fever would break - leading to me being sweaty but *cool*.

Will waking cold make my temp lower?

Can the weather/indoor temp fluctuations make my basal temps higher than they really are?

I'm seriously obsessing about my chart (11dpo today) and am afraid my great temps are inaccurate due to the weather.

http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/36398b

Thanks so much :)

[gozal]

IME, no. But I temp vaginally, which is less subject to being affected by weather. Plus everyone is different. I do think waking time makes a big difference. I basicallt see my temps go up by the classic 0.1F per 1/2 hour. But weather, no. I've woken up with very low temps on hot days (we rarely use a/c) and very high temps on frigid days.

HTH!

[aprilshower]

Thanks, gozal :)  Makes me feel a bit more calm. 

[Jaimee]

This is a very individual thing.  Some women are quite sensitive to environmental changes (waking up bundled in blankets and warm vs waking up out of the sheets and chilly).  But I think the average woman is not greatly affected by these things.  More often temp is affected by how/when you are taking it- consistent wake time, good sleep, mouth closed, not getting up (not even sitting up), not drinking water prior, etc.- and other stressors in your life like illness, injury, stress, exercise, diet changes, etc.

What was your CF like on CD's 15-17?  Was it totally dry or did you have something on those days?  I'm not entirely convinced of your O day, but without more CF info it's difficult to say for certain.  CD 17 could simply be an outlier low temp or it could be your O day with CD's 15 and 16 being outlier higher temps.  The former is more likely, but just something to keep in mind when counting DPO and testing.  Your temps look great overall and I would try testing again tomorrow morning!  Keep us posted!

[aprilshower]

Thanks, Jaimee :)

This is my 1st ovulation post-m/c.  The bleeding in my follicular phase is actually part 2 of my natural m/c (which led to it being complete). I always ovulate on cd12 or cd13 - until now.  I always have 4 days of EWCM - until now.  Just wanted to mention this in case it matters :)

I really think I ovulated on cd14 due to other symptoms as well.  cd13 and cd14 had huge EWCM.  cd15 was essentially dry (or maybe sticky).  I had dull pelvic achiness cd11,12,13,14.  (Never this long before either).

I had an u/s (re m/c follow up) on cd16.  I was hoping to see something, but the technician wouldn't talk to me.  My cnm said I have lots of follicles in both ovaries (not sure what this means for me really) but she didn't know anything else.  Also, I'm pretty sure I saw a triple stripe lining.

My 7dpo progesterone was 13.5.

I am doing acupuncture and taking Chineses herbs "luteal support" (formulated for my body) plus red raspberry leaf tincture and wild yam tincture - all post-ov only except acupuncture.  I'm hoping the herbs are not causing my great chart alone.  (I have never had a chart so great like this).  I have previously used npc (in other cycles) and have had only bad charts - so I'm thinking it can't be just herbs?

The cycle when I conceived my m/c baby, my post-ov temps were not great.  My temps declined after my 11dpo bfp and stayed near cover line.  My 7dpo progesterone was 12.7.  At 12dpo, 16.9.  A week later, 9.0.  My hcg was really great thru 6 weeks and I m/c 7w2d.

I'll prob test Sun AM, but I'm so scared that I might not :(  With our great BD timing, I don't see how we could have failed - and that will make it so hard to get a bfn.

[Jaimee]

Originally Posted by aprilshower 
My 7dpo progesterone was 13.5.

I believe that anything above 11 is considered fine.

I'm hoping the herbs are not causing my great chart alone.  (I have never had a chart so great like this).  I have previously used npc (in other cycles) and have had only bad charts - so I'm thinking it can't be just herbs?

It's quite possible that your m/c is causing your great cycle.  Often after a m/c, the lingering hormones boost the fertility of the next cycle, strengthening O and your LP.  Many women successfully conceive the cycle after a m/c, including myself.  So I hope this is the case for you as well.  It's nice to get something positive out of a m/c!

The cycle when I conceived my m/c baby, my post-ov temps were not great.  My temps declined after my 11dpo bfp and stayed near cover line.  My 7dpo progesterone was 12.7.  At 12dpo, 16.9.  A week later, 9.0.  My hcg was really great thru 6 weeks and I m/c 7w2d.

Your progesterone was low (9.0) at 19DPO, have you considered taking NPC through the first tri?  But it's also possible that the herbs and lingering hormones from your m/c will allow you to sustain a pregnancy without progesterone supplementation.  What does your mw think?

 With our great BD timing, I don't see how we could have failed - and that will make it so hard to get a bfn.

Please keep in mind that even with great timing human conception is surprisingly inefficient.  I'm not sure anyone has exact stats, but I believe it is somewhere between 20-30% of the time that sperm is in the presence of the egg that fertilization actually happens.  Certainly no guarantee and therefore not your fault or your body's fault in any way if you get that BFN.  The second cycle after a m/c is often also more fertile than usual... my second was conceived this way!  So good luck and keep us posted!!

[aprilshower]

Thanks, Jaimee -

I'm going to start progesterone suppositories 100mg BID as soon as I get a BFP.  I used it (too late) in my m/c pregnancy, and my level went up quickly.  Sadly too late :(

My mw has a crazy idea that she wants to monitor  my progesterone levels til 5 weeks before I start the suppositories!  I have no idea where she came up with that nonsense.  She seems really not used to m/c moms, tho she is super sweet and really wants to help me have a take home baby.  She'll go along with me just testing when I get a BFP and me starting suppositories then. 

I used npc in my m/c pregnancy, and I still got that low level of 9.  I used Progest - just like I did with my #3 - and somehow its not working for me now :(  I think that likely I just need way more progesterone than I can get thru the cream. 

I so agree that it would be great to get something positive out of my m/c - a BFP :)  I am so, so praying and hoping for that.  I've heard that cycles after m/c can be super fertile, so maybe that is what is going on with me.  Glad to hear of your post-m/c conceptions :)

[aprilshower]

Just updating to say I got a BFN this AM at 13dpo :(

[Jaimee]

Please keep in mind that you might be only 10 DPO and may not give you an accurate result.  Did you use a FRER and FMU?   It's not over until it's over.  FX that AF does not show in the next few days and that you get your BFP instead!

[aprilshower]

Thanks Jaimee -

Forgot to mention that my temp also made a dive to 98.9 (from 99.6 yesterday).  I used FMU with wondfo, which has been accurate for me in past.  I was going to uses frer if I got anything on my wondfo but sadly nothing.  Thanks for the fx.  I'm finding my bfn to be extremely sad, after my m/c.  I really thought I'd be one of the lucky ones who conceives right after m/c (given my great chart).

[Jaimee]

I noticed the temp dive, but then it went back up.  Your chart still looks fantastic... no spotting or anything.  So I think just wait it out another 3 days and try again if AF doesn't show.  And also remember that next cycle may be extra fertile as well (if there is a next cycle).