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Anybody want to talk wool?

post #1 of 33
Thread Starter 

I'm going to make a few wool covers for the baby.  In my minimilistic streak, everytime I look at our pile of diapers, I think, "why do we have so many?!?!?!  Just a few wool covers and those flat folds would plenty.  Blah!"  Lol.

 

I'm not intending to get rid of any, but I do want to slowly switch to wool, as those wear out.  (Right now I have 2 happy heiny pockets, 1 haute pocket, and 9 fuzzi bunz, and 15 Mommy's touch covers.  Well, and some wool.)  I did get rid of a few covers that were getting pretty worn, or that I found I just wasn't using.

 

I was wondering, though, if you've used wool, do you have any covers that you absolutely loved?

 

I made one for dd3 from http://crochetcastle.blogspot.com/2009/04/easiest-crochet-wool-soaker-pattern.html, and it turned out really cute.  So, I think I'm going to use up the rest of my wool and make a few a bit smaller for this baby.

 

Any suggestions?

post #2 of 33

The only down side to wool is that if you need to wash it it takes FOREVER to line dry... hang.gifso if you get poopy on it and wash it... it isn't like throwing a PUL in the wash and drying it in a couple hours...

 

But other then that I LOVE wool! wool.gif

 

It is the best for over night, usually will last a few sizes, and is just yummy! 

 

My favorite wool so far has been the Kozy Designs from ebay... they have good prices and good service, and there are often co-ops of Kozy Wool... They are soft wool and the organic wool is very thick and good for overnight.  I love their soakers, shorties and longies. 

 

I also love a couple random but sweaters we have from various trades, swaps, etc. They are soft merino wool...

 

I really want to try these from tiny bird: http://www.tinybirdsorganics.com/organicwool/TinyBirdsdiapercovers.html they also are the same as the little beetle wool pants... they're machine washable and not scratchy wool! 

 

And I drool over these: from nova naturals: http://www.novanatural.com/woolens/long-nappy-pants

 

I love that they last through so many sizes!  But with a spring/summer baby I am not sure if I should get the longies or the shorties....

 


 I also have a friend who will knit some shorties for me custom, which I love... I wish I could knit! 

post #3 of 33

Oooh! How timely. Can I go just a little off topic on a question and then I promise to get to wool?? lol

 

I bought the 5 thirsties and 1 prowrap cover off that ebay auction and I now have 2 dozen small organic Cloth-eeze diapers...First question - how long is this between washings? Should I buy an extra dozen?

I also made like 6 fitted flannel diapers. Super cute.

 

 I really want to have a good wool cover stash.

 

 I knit a shorties with ruffle legs for newborn age and I plan on using felted wool from recycled sweaters and using my fitted diaper cover pattern with snaps to make them. I don't really like the look of baby bum sweaters, but I did have a felted diaper cover once and loved it. Since I don't have a lot of wool sweater material (I have a huge bag but a lot of it is smaller 'scraps' than I would need for the pattern) I figured I would line the inside of the wool with a micro fleece (old blanket I have that is soft)....Poor people have poor ways I suppose LOL

Hoping that works...any reason it wouldn't?

 

I am also planning on knitting a pair of longies. I purchased two skeins of wool40%/acrylic40%/20%alpaca martha stewart yarn and plan on making longies with that. Would that be absorbent enough? I liked the green color and figured it was 60% natural fibers so..what the heck, right?

 

So many possibilities!!

 

Thats my plan so far.

 

Thanks for that crochet pattern! That looks so simple I can do it. Thank you :)

 

I feel so crafty lately....

 

 

 

 

post #4 of 33
Thread Starter 

Hmmm. 

 

Well, newborns go through a lot of diapers, so you may be a bit shy in the early days.  I figure I'll need 12 changes a day, washing every two to three days.  But, by the time they get a little bigger, that cuts way down.  I have a stash of one-size (all of mine are one-size) of about 30, and diaper two kids with that just fine.  You have kids already, lol!  How often did you change your newborns?

 

And, I don't think you'll need to line your wool covers.  Maybe you could figure out some sort of binding for the edge?  Do you have enough scraps to make some bias tape?  I was going to suggest you just serge/overedge it, but I think that would feel sharp and uncomfortable to a baby when it was wet.   I love the idea of snap wool covers, though.  The only downside to wool, imo, is the having to pull it up and down...ugh.

 

My understanding of the way wool works is that it does not absorb, actually.  That's the job of the diaper inside.  The lanolin in the wool  prevents the individual fibers from absorbing, and that's what makes it so clean.  The pee is just trapped between them.  So, yes, more layers of wool would create more places for liquid to be trapped, but, for daytime use, one layer is plenty. 

 

Fleece, however, works by transferring wetness to the place that absorbs the most easily.  So, I would think that if you lined a wool cover with fleece, you might increase leaking problems. 

 

Somebody else might have some better info/understanding, though.

 

I don't know about the 60% wool.  Have you tried googling?  I remember reading something about that somewhere, but can't remember what they said, lol.

post #5 of 33

LOL thanks Just1! My youngest is nearly 5 and we didn't do cloth with her so much cause most of my diapers were really torn up cause they were all used from #1 so by the time they hit my number 3 they'd probably been through at least 6 kids and...well...they sucked.

So its really been about 7-8 years since I did CD and I never did the prefold and cover route. I always did AIO, like Little Lamb or FuzziBunz or fitteds (without a cover. I just  now discovered you need a cover for a fitted. duh)

 

Thank you for the advice! I will look over and research more :)

post #6 of 33

wool need not be lined, just make sure it is lanolized with something like described here: http://www.greenmountaindiapers.com/lanolize.htm

post #7 of 33

So - you don't want to line wool with another fiber.  Fleece requires regular washing and wool doesn't.  If you felt your wool really well before sewing, you could get away with it just fine.  It's not going to hurt anything.  but then you're kinda defeating the purpose of using wool entirely.

 

As for the blended fiber, it would probably work, but again, it's not wool, and it's going to require more regular washing.  What you don't want is a blend of animal fibers with vegetable fibers (cotton, rayon, linen), but a blend of animal and synthetics will do the job. 

 

I totally second the suggestion of Kozy Wool.  We used them almost exclusively until DS was about a year.  Small and Med was plenty for us (although the Sm took some growing into).  Look for co-ops on it, it's a lot cheaper.  We also got a bunch of custom longies made, since DS is so tall, with extra long legs.  It is a long lead time, since they're all made to order, but they work great.  The problem I ran into was relanolizing them (which I suck at).   So mostly I just used them until they started getting soaked, and then retired them.  I have a pile of them I now need to figure out how to lanolize for this little bean.

 

THey didn't work for night-time though.  For night-time we still use Babyology.  And at 2 with a super thick night-time dipe he can still wear the Mediums.  The Large is way too saggy in the crotch. 

 

I did knit a few for the NB period - I like the patterns by Little Turtle Knits with the ribbed crotch.  The big thing for wool for me, is it has to have a drawstring.  Most do not have the resiliency to be able to pull on over a dipe and then stay up.  They stretch out the first time you wear them, and then don't spring back until they get washed again, so a drawstring is crucial.  Babyology is the only brand I haven't had this issue with. 

 

If you want wool wraps, I highly recommend Pipers Closet.  You can find her on etsy, I think.  If you can't find her, LMK, and I'll look up her info.  I hope she's still in business.  I love her wool wraps.  She'll do a custom size (we needed a Med waist with a Lg rise), and it was in my mailbox in less than a week.  Great prices too.  I wasn't as crazy about her dipes, just because they have internal soakers, so they take too long to dry, but the fit was excellent.  We have a 2 layer wool flannel and it's a great night-time cover.  I've also used her thinner ones (they're still 2 layer, I think, but a thinner wool), and they're great day-time weight.

 

Washing - pain in the butt.  This is where you really need to be sure your dipe is fitting properly, because hand-washing the poopy out of the wool is a BIG pain.  And they don't dry quickly.  Although if you take a towel, fold it in half, lay the wool on it, roll it up, and walk on the roll, the towel will suck all the water out of the wool.  Then it'll dry overnight most of the time.  But if you skip that step it could take a week to dry.  I'm actually at the point where my washing machine has a "wool" setting, and I'm willing to toss everything into the machine with Charlie's Soap, cross my fingers and go with it.  I just don't have the patience for handwashing all the wool anymore.

 

And then there's lanolizing.  Which I suck at.  So if anyone has any brilliant suggestions, I'm open to them.  I do have spray-on liquid lanolin, which I should probably just go ahead and use.  It's better than nothing, I suppose.  Another thing about lanolizing is that you really want a dedicated vessel for it (bucket, tub, etc.).  The lanolin sticks to the container, and then it requires several scrubbings with soap and hot water to get off.  And any that you pour down the drain will need to be chased with boiling water or it'll clog your drain in time.  I really dislike working with "solid" lanolin.  Even liquid is a pain, but solid is so much worse. 

post #8 of 33

Yes it take long to dry forest is right but you can get more yummy wool and rotate LOL (enabler) DS was not a heavy wetter and was dry at night by 5ish mths we also did EC but we used wool at night and even while out and about.

 

We love wool :-)  DS was PT by 18 mths on his own we also ec'd but we have

 

4 classic pairs of crankypants

2  loveybums jersy knit and 2 merino wool covers really like them

2 kiwipie wool covers

4 recycled wool longies

4 recycled wool shorties.

also...We have a big stash of CDs 

20 GMD prefolds size NB and Small

20 OS GMs

8 fuzzibunz small

8 thirsties AIO2 

80 cloth wipes, (bamboo, sherpa, cotton, flannel) made by WAHMs

1 mommys touch wet bag

 

I will order 1 planet wise hanging wet bag girly print

I will order 1 small planet wise on the go wet bag girly print

I will order 4 rumparooz OS in girly prints

I will order 4 AIO newborn and 4 OS RSD (rainshine designs) girly colors

I will order a pair of crankypants shorties in mushroom and a pair of longies (girly monster pair)

 

That should do it I have tried many different CDs and loved what we used for DS we have all of the CDs stuff from DS and wool except of course what I will order and because know we are having a girl I wanted some girly colors for her.

 

LOL HOLLY COW!!!! I have never really written that down but this will take us all the way to potty learning....We don't have to but I wash what is dirty in the wet bag every 2 days because I don't like to let the CDs to sit longer

 

Oh and don't for get the lanolin to lanolize yummy wool our fav was pink sugar by northern essence

post #9 of 33

I am so intimidated by wool! I used disposables on my first two kiddos - now we are finally in a house with a working washer/dryer and I am pumped about cloth diapering!! But it is all so new to me! I am ordering Green Mountain Diapers pre-folds and bummis covers. Wool is so cute - especially those longies! But I have no idea what "lanolizing" is, and as far as i can tell, "felting" just means shrinking? They just seem so high maintenance and I need something very simple that Hubby and other relatives that might be caring for baby can handle. Tell me wool isn't as difficult as I am imagining -- I really want to order some cute wool longies but they are pricey and I don't want to waste $$ on something that I'll never use because it is too much to deal with. 

post #10 of 33
Thread Starter 

I used to feel that way about wool.  And, even when I had it, I always felt like it was too much to deal with.  But it really isn't.

 

Here's what I do.

 

I recently discovered that I can machine wash/hand wash my wool, even aristocrats.  I just select the"soak" option on warm water, and let it fill up.  Then, when it starts to agitate (on soak, it's really okay), I stop the machine, and reach in and wash them by hand.  I use a little ivory soap, or, better, baby shampoo.  Then, I switch to the spin cycle, and let them spin out.  I repeat what I just did to rinse them.  And then, do it one more time, but this time use slightly warmer water.  I heat about a cup of water for a minute in the microwave, and then squeeze in about an inch of lansinoh lanolin (yep, the breastfeeding stuff).  I stir it with a spoon until it is melted, then dump it in the washer and let it sit for a while. I might squeeze the wool around in it a bit, then let it soak for 15 min to an hour to whenever I want to deal with it.  Then, spin cycle one more time, and viola!  Done.  I just lay them out on a towel and let them dry.  Using the spin cycle, it only takes 24 hours or so for it to dry, instead of the week or more it used to.

 

It sounds like a lot, but hands on time is actually only about 10 minutes or so.  And, the mess is all contained in the washing machine.  I used to hate to deal with all the towels I had used to squeeze out the excess water, etc, but now it's just no big deal.

 

Actually, one of the things I like about wool is how easy it is.  Shorties or longies can just be the bottoms of the outfit, and you just switch to a different pair when you change the diaper.  Throw the wet part in the diaper pail, and the wool somewhere to air out.  Next change, switch back.  If you are careful how you fold the inner diaper (to contain poo), you can go like that for 2 weeks without washing the wool.  So, just a few covers goes a really, really long way. 

 

Cristeen-great point about the washing of fleece and the other fibers!

 

And, thanks for all the ideas of other brands to try!  My only complaint about my wool is that it is all cream colored.  I like the old fashioned "woolen underwear" look, but lately I've been feeling that it's so boring!  I want colors!  :)

 

 

post #11 of 33
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Originally Posted by MeredithA View Post

 Tell me wool isn't as difficult as I am imagining -- I really want to order some cute wool longies but they are pricey and I don't want to waste $$ on something that I'll never use because it is too much to deal with. 


It isn't as difficult as you're imagining. 

 

As for the $$ - I do get that, but I don't think I've ever paid more than about $22 for a pair of longies.  The really expensive ones like Aristocrats are not worth the increase in price to me.  Kozy Wool is a great day weight, they're really cute (lots of design options) and if you can find a co-op, you can get them for under $20/pair.  I also did a bunch of wool for woolies swaps, where people volunteer for knitting duty, knit longies to your measurements with yarn you send them, and you pay them with more yarn. 

 

Like Just1More said - we just used them as bottoms.  No pants needed.  We had soakers and longies to get us through the winter (with babylegs if necessary), and come spring soakers and shorties.  You can't use onesies with wool, and you don't really want to put a one-piece over it either, but as pants/shorts/bottoms, wool works great.  We used it exclusively until DS was almost a year old.

 

Oh, and I never washed as regularly as Just1More.  I washed them when they started absorbing pee (feeling wet on the outside), if they started smelling like pee when dry, or if they got crunchy.  Or of course if they got poo on them.  With half a dozen +/- in rotation, that was more like every 6 weeks or so I'd wash them.  Wrap them in a towel like I said above, then hang them on a drying rack placed over a heater vent, and they'd dry in a day or so.  As for the towel - I had 1 towel that was dedicated to wool.  I washed it during the time it wasn't getting used, but if I was washing a few loads in a week (have to wash in batches so you have something to keep on the butt), I'd just hang the towel to dry between loads. 

post #12 of 33

As soon as I stop giggling, I will post an intelligent answer, but I swear that this read "Anybody want to talk wood"... *snerk*

 

A friend of mine just gave me two hand made wool shorties, and I couldn't be happier. :D When my daughter was a baby, I used 100% wool suiting material to make wrap around wraps, and if those weren't the best wraps I owned ever...

 

This time around, I not only don't have a sewing machine, I no longer have my cloth diapers from my daughter, so I'm starting from next to nothing. YAY WOOL!

post #13 of 33

Another good thing about wool is it resells on sites like the trading post here and diaper swappers, etc. SO even the most expensive ones aren't that bad if you can sell them for 75 percent of the cost. 

 

I find wool to be super easy, keeps baby's skin healthy, and if you figure longies are also clothes, the price doesn't seem that big.  I love longies and such for a little older baby.... like 6+ months. 

 

Starting with one bulletproof wool item for the nighttime diaper is a good way to start with wool....

 

Babyology are nice, too! 

 

OMG, we should try to do a cozy wool co-op!  how fun would that be?

post #14 of 33

I would say I don't think wool is too over the top in washing, If you have a good rotation of wool then some are soaking while others are drying and using the others etc... In the beginning wool was intimidating but once we had a rotation and system together with our fav bamboo cd it was flawless.

 

......you have to use wool with some CD whether its a cotton. bamboo prefold or a fitted CD whichever you choose and crankypants, luvybums  and kiwipies are wool (longies and shorties and covers) all my FAV.... but we have wool that is recycled too and all the wool we have in different prices I love. Some of the recycled I made myself out of merino sweaters

 

My favorite combo is to use wool with our GMs. The other CDs in our stash I like and mostly if MIL or someone else like a family member is changing they will choose a AIO or something. I choose wool first always and so does DH :-) it just more natural and face it so yummy.

post #15 of 33

"wood" LOL! :-)

 

I wish I could sew well like really well so I could make some of my own wooly stuff but I've only managed to recycle

post #16 of 33
Thread Starter 

Well, I just watched Toy Story 3 (first time...), and cried and cried while I used too big of a hook and made that cover too big.  I thought about using it for dd, but I really wanted it for the baby...so I ripped it out.  Blah.  Ridiculous on more than one level.

post #17 of 33

I have a question that is slightly off topic too, we are planning to cloth diaper (using a diaper service who is going to deliver once a week)

 

I'm planning to knit my own covers then lanolize them but we are also registering for cloth covers (bummies, thirsties, ect)

 

I would be washing covers 2-3 times a week, how many of each wool/cloth cover do I need?

 

 

post #18 of 33
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Originally Posted by hollyann View Post

I have a question that is slightly off topic too, we are planning to cloth diaper (using a diaper service who is going to deliver once a week)

 

I'm planning to knit my own covers then lanolize them but we are also registering for cloth covers (bummies, thirsties, ect)

 

I would be washing covers 2-3 times a week, how many of each wool/cloth cover do I need?

 

 


It depends on what sort of distribution you want between the PUL and the wool.  I had 1 PUL cover per size until DS was a year old.  And probably at least 6 wool, sometimes 12 (depending on size and season). 

 

If you want 3 or 4 PUL covers, then you can have less wool - maybe 3 or 4.  If you only want 1 or 2 wool (like for night-time), then I'd go with probably 6 or so PUL covers.  This is for NB/infant sizes.  Once they get bigger/mobile, things change. 

 

But seriously, IMO you can't really have too many covers in the infant period.  I suppose you could, but it'd take some work.  I happen to think that 1 cover for every 2 diapers wouldn't be too many.  But at the same time you could get away with far less. 

post #19 of 33

I would love to go in on a co-op for wool but I am tapped out of funds until early April.

post #20 of 33
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I would love to go in on a co-op for wool but I am tapped out of funds until early April.



That's cool!  I'm in no hurry... I think I will not buy new wool until baby is a few months old at the earliest.... It might be something fun to do in the fall, too! 

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