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[carmen358]

Originally Posted by Mittens 

And then the night nursing is a whole other story. Like, how do you night wean a child who absolutely does not want to stop. She actually seems addicted, if that is possible. And it breaks my heart. Where have i gone wrong?

Hugs! You haven't gone wrong...you are doing great :) How many times a night does she nurse? Do you co-sleep? Have you tried explaining to her that the "milkies (or whatever word you use) are asleep right now"? My DD nightweaned at about 18 months and she was nursing every 30-60 minutes (no, I'm not kidding). With no prompting from me, she just suddenly started sleeping 4 hour stretches and was down to one nursing session in the night so I took advantage of the change and started telling her after her last nursing session that the milkies were going to sleep and wouldn't wake up until morning. She only fussed a bit the first night and has been fine ever since. Luckily it was a non-event. I know every child is different though. We co-sleep btw.

[Mittens]

Thanks Carmen! DD actually really freaks out at the prospect of not nursing to sleep. She always has, even as a little baby. Now she is two and still freaks out. And i mean really badly. Like if i didn't give in she'd probably choke and throw up. Obviously, she is not ready. And i don't want to push her, you know? Her canines are killing her and taking their time coming in, and i keep telling myself and DH that once they're in, we can start thinking about night weaning. But not until then. I wish it could be sooner because honestly, i am seriously suffering right now. But this is the life of a mama, right! I'm glad to hear night weaning went smoother for you and your little one!

[SilverMoonMama]

Originally Posted by Lauren82 

ughhhhhh... Mine gets really bad at night...

[carmen358]

Originally Posted by Mittens 

Thanks Carmen! DD actually really freaks out at the prospect of not nursing to sleep. She always has, even as a little baby. Now she is two and still freaks out. And i mean really badly. Like if i didn't give in she'd probably choke and throw up. Obviously, she is not ready. And i don't want to push her, you know? Her canines are killing her and taking their time coming in, and i keep telling myself and DH that once they're in, we can start thinking about night weaning. But not until then. I wish it could be sooner because honestly, i am seriously suffering right now. But this is the life of a mama, right! I'm glad to hear night weaning went smoother for you and your little one!

Aw, yeah, it doesn't sound like she's ready at all - I totally understand. When someone suggested I explain to DD about not nursing at night when she was about 15 months...I thought they were crazy because she would have NEVER gone for it. DD has all her teeth already so we aren't struggling with that anymore. Good luck!

[Mittens]

Carmen, thank you. I find your post very reassuring that my DD's time WILL come. Makes it easier to get through this time with love and patience.

[MamanFrancaise]

My GP prescribed diclectin today. I am hoping it works. I'm 9w2d and it's still kicking my ass.

 

[Mittens]

MamanFrancaise, i so hope it helps you!

As for me, the nausea is still here, which is so discouraging. I think what the b6 does is make it so it's not constant, but now it hits me in waves. MANY waves. And i get chills and feel like i'm falling apart. And car sick. UGH. When can i get off this horrible ride???!!!

[hyde]

Mittens, do you think you might try at least half a Unisom at night? I'm on the other side- took Unisom last night but haven't gotten the B6 yet- and it did seem to help today (without having taken it during the day, just from last night).

[Mittens]

Hi Hyde,

I'm not so sure. I've taken Benedryl before and it made my heart race and i had a really severe panic attack. That was about 20 years ago though, but I'm still scared to try it again. I feel really lost in this right now. I am stunned at how much worse the nausea is this time around. I was able to work and do everything when i was pregnant with DD. This is over the top. I feel like i am living with the stomach flu for weeks and months rather than the usual 24 to 48 hours. it's just so wrong.

[hyde]

Originally Posted by Mittens 

Hi Hyde,

I'm not so sure. I've taken Benedryl before and it made my heart race and i had a really severe panic attack. That was about 20 years ago though, but I'm still scared to try it again. I feel really lost in this right now. I am stunned at how much worse the nausea is this time around. I was able to work and do everything when i was pregnant with DD. This is over the top. I feel like i am living with the stomach flu for weeks and months rather than the usual 24 to 48 hours. it's just so wrong.

Mittens, that sounds really rough. I can definitely see why you'd want to stay away from it. :\ I'm really sorry to hear that this is hitting you so hard.. I hope your provider can do something for you. This stuff is truly miserable. Sending calm stomach vibes your way.

[Brambleberry]

Last pregnancy I learned about B6 at 10 weeks and was kicking myself for not starting sooner!  It made a HUGE difference... for the short time left in my trimester - I was lucky enough to be totally done with the nausea exactly as I ended first trimester.  So this time I started taking it as soon as I learned I was pregnant, along with milkthistle capsules (which I read about on another MDC thread - there's a lot of info if you search the threads).  I'm 6 weeks tomorrow, and so far so good!  Just a few twinges of nausea here and there.  I'm taking 50 mg B6 mid day and evening, plus my prenatal has 15 mg which I take in the morning. 

Another tip that helped me last time was lemon water made with the whole lemon - rind and all.  Thinly slice a whole lemon with skin into a gallon jar, add just enough sugar to coat the lemon (the sugar pulls the aromatic oils out of the skin - this is what you're going for), and let it sit without adding water for 15 minutes, stirring once or twice. Then fill with water and keep in the fridge. You can add more water when it's half gone and extend it a little too. Just sip throughout the day as needed.

[Carlin]

Brambleberry, I took my first B6 today too and OMG what a difference. It's the first time in 2 weeks I haven't been constantly nauseous. I'm still getting waves of it here an there but I feel almost human. I'll look into MilkThistle too. I've always been a big water drinker but I've had a really rough time getting enough down lately. The lemon water sounds like a great idea.

[Brambleberry]

Originally Posted by Mittens 

Thanks Carmen! DD actually really freaks out at the prospect of not nursing to sleep. She always has, even as a little baby. Now she is two and still freaks out. And i mean really badly. Like if i didn't give in she'd probably choke and throw up. Obviously, she is not ready. And i don't want to push her, you know? Her canines are killing her and taking their time coming in, and i keep telling myself and DH that once they're in, we can start thinking about night weaning. But not until then. I wish it could be sooner because honestly, i am seriously suffering right now. But this is the life of a mama, right! I'm glad to hear night weaning went smoother for you and your little one!

My DD is also 2 (24 months) and also NOT in a good place, developmentally, to night wean.  HOWEVER she IS in a good place to start learning LIMITS.  We've been cutting back on how long and how often she nurses, because my nipples are somewhat tender and I'm worried it's going to get worse.  She has been taking longer and longer to fall asleep while nursing and it was killing my poor nipples even before I got pregnant.  So we started counting.  DD loves to count right now - she thinks it's really cool.  During the day (except naps) we do 10 seconds only on each side (sometimes twice if necessary, but she's usually cooperative).  I count to ten, say "switch", count to ten on the other side and say "all done".  Sometimes she tries to count with me while she nurses - very funny.  At night I let her nurse until she's done actively swallowing on both sides, count to ten before I unlatch her, and then say "we're going to take a break and you can nurse again in 200 seconds."  If she doesn't fall asleep before I'm done counting I let her nurse again for about a minute and then we take another 200 second break.  I usually don't need to count more than twice.  It does take longer for her to fall asleep this way, but it is way easier on my nipples than when I let her just nurse and nurse until she was asleep.

[judybean]

Brambleberry -- I've taken to the idea of counting a bit too.... but I haven't tried it at night!  I really need to though because the nighttime nursing is killing me.  Especially because dd4 (she turns two next month) will only nurse from the right side (and yeah, my boobs are so lop-sided!.. she started only taking to the right side a few months ago.. and it's because she likes to lay between dh and I and that ends up being to my right side).  DD really likes to count, so during the day when she asks to nurse, I'll let her nurse a bit, then eventually say we'll count to five and she'll be done.  It's worked wonderfully thus far -- better than I could have hoped!  It's a nice feeling, not wanting to crawl out of my skin...

I really need to try the counting thing at night. I simply *cannot* lay on my right side all. night. long. with dd!! 

Sorry for those struck by such horrid nausea :(  I feel fortunate in only having general waves of nausea, but nothing totally debilitating all day.

[Brambleberry]

Judybean - I should add that I introduced the idea of taking "breaks" from nursing to DD during the day when it would be less threatening to her than having to stop nursing at night.  It only took a couple times.  I let her nurse on one side, then when we would normally switch to the other side I told her we were taking a break and I was going to count to 50.  (I thought it would be good to start small.)  So she listened excitedly to me count to 50 and then she got to nurse again.  I think the key idea to get across is that she CAN nurse again, this is just a little break.  She would scream if she thought I wasn't going to let her nurse, but now she is old enough to learn to wait a little.  Or a lot even.

[jodieanneanton]

Hey ladies, I am dealing with a nursing (almost) 2 year old, too!  I do counting with her, too.  It is sooo funny the ideas we come up with independently are so similar!  I do it a little differently, though.  I find that if dd2 falls asleep without nursing to sleep, she sleeps better (generally), so for all nursing sessions (except the pre-bedtime nursing which I let her nurse until she's done or until she starts seeming like she's drifting off to sleep) I let her nurse two minutes on one side (giving 2 minute warning, "one minute left then let go time," and "almost time to let go") and then count to 3 and she switches sides.  When we are switching, I say "two more minutes on otherside then all done."  I have the same routine with side 2 as I do with side one except I add to "let go" and say "then it's rest time." After she unlatches, we snuggle and if it's bedtime or naptime, she falls asleep.  I do allow and tolerate whining if she wants more... I will gently explain that 'mama' needs a rest.  If a freak out or crying happens I allow the routine one more time.  Once we had this routine established during the day for about two weeks, I started doing it at night and..... drumroll please.... it WORKED!  (Well, usually works!)
 

Originally Posted by judybean 

Brambleberry -- I've taken to the idea of counting a bit too.... but I haven't tried it at night!  I really need to though because the nighttime nursing is killing me.  Especially because dd4 (she turns two next month) will only nurse from the right side (and yeah, my boobs are so lop-sided!.. she started only taking to the right side a few months ago.. and it's because she likes to lay between dh and I and that ends up being to my right side).  DD really likes to count, so during the day when she asks to nurse, I'll let her nurse a bit, then eventually say we'll count to five and she'll be done.  It's worked wonderfully thus far -- better than I could have hoped!  It's a nice feeling, not wanting to crawl out of my skin...

I really need to try the counting thing at night. I simply *cannot* lay on my right side all. night. long. with dd!! 

Sorry for those struck by such horrid nausea :(  I feel fortunate in only having general waves of nausea, but nothing totally debilitating all day.

Originally Posted by Brambleberry 

Judybean - I should add that I introduced the idea of taking "breaks" from nursing to DD during the day when it would be less threatening to her than having to stop nursing at night.  It only took a couple times.  I let her nurse on one side, then when we would normally switch to the other side I told her we were taking a break and I was going to count to 50.  (I thought it would be good to start small.)  So she listened excitedly to me count to 50 and then she got to nurse again.  I think the key idea to get across is that she CAN nurse again, this is just a little break.  She would scream if she thought I wasn't going to let her nurse, but now she is old enough to learn to wait a little.  Or a lot even.

[Mittens]

Just wanted to thank everyone for sharing, and to post an update. I have been so miserable, basically just getting through each day with no light at the end of the tunnel. My doctor prescribed Zofran but i never took it because it may pass through breast milk. I can't take Unisom because it has benedryl in it, and Vit B6 alone didn't work in the end for me at all. Too bad, i was really hoping! I don't know what i will do if the nausea carries on through the second trimester as it did with my DD. The nausea wasn't nearly this bad last time though.

On a happy and encouraging note, DD is night weaning SO WELL! We tried one night and i gave up immediately thinking she was not ready and i wanted to respect that. But then the next night i was waaaay too sick (nausea plus a high fever) to nurse her, and each night since has just gotten easier and easier. She is sleeping SO GREAT!!! Which means that i also get more opportunity to sleep even though the nausea keeps me awake at night. She is also learning to fall back asleep on her own, or with her dad, which is huge for us!!! Ever since she was born, her sleep has been dependent upon me and me only and it hasn't been easy but i'd say it's been worth it. She has no sleep issues. She welcomes bedtime and naps and feels very secure.

Anyway, truly, thanks again to all who have been sharing. Keep it up if anyone ever has anything to add, because i am still ALL EARS. I need a break from this nausea!!!

[mamaforever]

Mittens (and everyone else struggling with sickness!) - so sorry to hear how sick you are.  It sounds like you are like I was when I was pregnant with DS.  It was soooooo horrible and absolutely nothing helped.  That whole time was a blur for me - I really don't know how I functioned.  This time it's still bad but it comes in waves and is not constant like it was with DS.  I hope you get relief soon.  That's great about night weaning your DD, though!

I have a hard time drinking just plain water - and I recently discovered that heating up my water so that it's hot like hot tea or coffee is helping.  My stomach seems to accept it better when the water is hot.  So just a tip if any of you want to try this. :)

[cryswilkins]

I have ok days and terrible days. Today is a terrible one. I am over it. Done. Breathing is making me want to hurl.

[ein328]

FWIW, I used Zofran while I was pregnant and breastfeeding, and I'd do it again. It's being prescribed to very young infants now, so it's presumed to be safe for a breastfeeding child. If it's between either weaning or Zofran, I'll take the meds.