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Tell us all your ideas about sleep!

post #1 of 14
Thread Starter 

Im interested in what everyone is doing for helping babies get to sleep now that we are nearing five months! 

 

How many day naps? How long? 

 

What time do you aim for for bedtime? I recently read if you put los down earlier they will sleep longer? Has anyone had experience with this theory? 

 

What methods do you use for "helping" get to sleep? Swaddle? swing? sucking? Rocking? Nursing? 

 

How many hours of sleep at a time are you all getting at night? 

 

Do you feel its time to transition from one type of sleeping to another ? (ie. swing to cosleeper?) 

 

Is ANYONE napping while their babe does during the day? 

 

Is ANYONE feeling the exhaustion catching up to them? 

 

Cassidy still sleeps best during the day when she is swaddled and swinging, and she requires sucking on my pinky to relax.  So, all 3 things at once.  But, she's asleep within five min! Oh, did I mention the white noise on the swing too? Yep. Then, she sleeps for a long time while the swing is on. If it is turned off, its a tossup.

 

At night, shes been upset with the swaddle, and dad can't put her to bed because she doesn't like his finger.  tonight, she was upset with the swing , so I did the swaddle in the cosleeper with pinky sucking for about 20 minutes.  We aim for 9 pm for bedtime, but Im thinking of starting earlier.  

 

I don't take naps while she does, and am starting to get truly exhausted.  I have such a hard time letting all the housework go to get rest.  I like to have lots of playdates here, and I feel like I have to have a clean house to be doing that. 

 

Anyway, just reaching out and seeing how sleep is going for everyone... I hope good :) 

 

 

post #2 of 14

Hey there! I am sorry to hear you're having some struggles. You probably have heard about the infamous 4 month sleep regression. They are so very busy developmentally that it can really mess with their sleep. I think it can be so frustrating because when you're not sleeping you want help NOW! But you know your baby best and what she is doing day in and day out that may be affecting her sleep. I very well may not be the best source of advice as I have a crappy sleeper and often wonder if it's all my fault......but I would say to just keep trying to creatively tweak things and hang in there. It definitely is a good strategy to keep things simple in terms of what you expect to accomplish on a daily basis, I know that I get a lot more stressed when I have a long to-do list and things don't get done. On the other hand, I know that life does go on and I have to learn to be functional, it seems like it's taking me so long and I'm not adapting gracefully this time around. It is soooo hard at times. The baby really forces his sleep to be my priority because if he's unhappy, we're all miserable. If he doesn't get a good morning nap for instance, we're stuck at home all day. So I really, really work at it and it kind of sucks a lot of the time! I usually am not one to pine for the future when things are different but I have to admit I do that a lot these days.

 

It's going horribly here at the moment! I wouldn't say Luke is a good sleeper in general, although things are terrible right now I can't say they were ever great. Just varying degrees of badness. Haha. He exclusively nurses to sleep now, he is quite adamant that it is the only method he will accept! Generally that part works out pretty well. My older son was a much worse sleeper than Luke so I have experienced the hell of sleep deprivation before. My daughter was much better. Anyway, to answer your questions-

 

Oh and Luke is on the younger side, just turned 4 months a few days ago.

 

How many day naps? How long? 

Luke takes 3 naps - morning, afternoon, early evening. Until recently they were 1.5 to 2 hours during the day and 45 min to 1 hour in the evening. Now that he's been sleeping so poorly at night, they are all over the map and often he will have trouble settling into a deep sleep until the evening nap.

 

What time do you aim for for bedtime? I recently read if you put los down earlier they will sleep longer? Has anyone had experience with this theory? 

I could write a novella on this one but will spare you! Luke's bedtime was 8:15 or so for a long time and then around Christmas he started treating that as a very late nap, "fake bedtime". and not falling out for the night til around midnight. It kept getting later and later, so I started pushing his bedtime back later by giving him a long bath when he started to show signs of tiredness...that worked for exactly one week and now he is back to treating his bedtime as a fake bedtime and wanting to fall asleep at midnight...then is out of sorts all day. I don't think an earlier bedtime would buy us anything, I am truly stumped at the moment.  I haven't had this work with my other two children either, when they were tired they went to sleep and I've never been one to try to have a baby sleep when they're not tired. Frustrating.

 

What methods do you use for "helping" get to sleep? Swaddle? swing? sucking? Rocking? Nursing?

As previously mentioned, nursing is the only thing that works right now. I haven't even been able to get him to sleep in the Moby in ages and he just cries when we try walking or bouncing or the swing. We never swaddled him and he won't take a pacifier.

 

How many hours of sleep at a time are you all getting at night? 

Currently, about six hours of extremely broken sleep. It's terrible. Like midnight or 1am he is finally deeply asleep so I can fall asleep and then he wakes at 2,4,6,7 until 8 and then at that point I can try to go back to sleep or just give up and get up since my husband and older two are then awake.  This has just developed in the past few days though with the return of the fake bedtime. Prior to that, we'd usually get a 3 or 4 hour stretch right off the bat and that was enough to make me feel functional. We were also in bed, although not sleeping, for 12 hours total (9:30-9:30). So I was feeling pretty good up until a couple of days ago. Prior to 3 months of age he used to almost always do a 5-6 hour stretch at first. Trying not to cry as I type that out. ;)

 

Do you feel its time to transition from one type of sleeping to another ? (ie. swing to cosleeper?) 

Since we have so few options I feel like we're stuck with what we're doing, all I can do is keep playing with his bedtime. For his naps I have mostly transitioned him from sleeping against my chest on the boppy to sleeping on the bed so I can unlatch him and slip away but that has meant staying glued to the monitor and slipping back in a few times to nurse him back to sleep.

 

Is ANYONE napping while their babe does during the day? 

Hahahahahaha. Although I am not a great napper (takes me forever to fall asleep during the day) I often think that just 20 minutes would really help in many ways. My 4 yo daughter is home with me all week so it's not an option then and a noisy household usually prevents it on the weekend as well.

 

Is ANYONE feeling the exhaustion catching up to them?

Absolutely. All it takes is two bad nights in a row and I feel like I am hitting bottom. I have to give myself a LOT of pep talks and it takes a great deal of effort to control my mood as I feel really impatient and bitchy. My family deserves better so I bite my tongue a lot and soldier through!

 


Edited by Gracecody - 1/30/12 at 5:56pm
post #3 of 14

 

I'll share our "stats". It's going decently overall. 

 

How many day naps? How long?

It depends. Usually at least two, but he's been doing a lot of short naps lately - 20-30 minutes at a time, instead of fewer longer naps.  

 

What time do you aim for for bedtime? I recently read if you put los down earlier they will sleep longer? Has anyone had experience with this theory?

8:30-9:00. Haven't tried an earlier bedtime because he'll sleep through the night once he's out (he hasn't done the four month regression yet, knock on wood - hopefully he'll skip that).

 

What methods do you use for "helping" get to sleep? Swaddle? swing? sucking? Rocking? Nursing?

We have a bedtime ritual of reading a story, and he gets a bottle of breast milk until he dozes off.   

 

How many hours of sleep at a time are you all getting at night? 

Now that I've been able to eliminate the midnight pump and he sleeps through, seven! Seven glorious hours! 

 

Do you feel its time to transition from one type of sleeping to another ? (ie. swing to cosleeper?) 

Nope - we cosleep with him in our bed and it's working out just fine - I don't feel any pressing need to get him into the crib.

 

Is ANYONE napping while their babe does during the day? 

Ha. I've been back to work full time since before Christmas so that went out the window ages ago.

 

Is ANYONE feeling the exhaustion catching up to them?

Yes. Every day. But what can you do? You just forge ahead.  

post #4 of 14

One day at a time, right? Luke has been sleeping much better again, back to some nice long stretches. I just never know what to expect at bedtime...but overall things are so much better than when I wrote that crazy long post. Sorry! Sheepish.gif

post #5 of 14

Gracecody, I'm glad things are back to normal for you now!

 

Of course just when I say things are going well, all of a sudden last night Alexander woke up at 2:00 crying for a bottle! I'm hoping it was just a fluke and not the beginning of a period of night feedings again... 

post #6 of 14
Thread Starter 

Thanks Mamas! Cassidy has gotten back to somewhat normal too!  Every day is SO different, what is normal really? but, she is sleeping more right now and I am lovin it! 

post #7 of 14

Yes, I am loving it too! Getting sleep makes all the difference! Kitchensqueen, how is Alexander doing?

post #8 of 14

He slept all the way through again last night, so maybe it was just a fluke? Anyway, that's what I'm hoping! 

post #9 of 14

Yay, hope it was a fluke!

 

Mamareba, I'm glad I'm not the only one with a baby who's not quite predictable. I'm usually one to just go with the flow but this time around, the flow has been pushing me into places I just don't want to be! So have to get out my oars. ;)

post #10 of 14
Thread Starter 

Wait, kitchensqueen, you go all night without feeding your little guy? I haven't even come close to that yet.  

 

Im usually up around between 2 and 5 to feed, sometimes one though! And from that point on she's in bed with us, so its on and off after that until about 7. Then sometimes (last couple days) if I catch her in that swatty arm but still asleep moment, reswaddle and put her in the swing, she will fall back asleep for 2 MORE hours! (don't hate me ;) 

 

Haha ,Gracecody, I know ... today was hilarious... only two naps , 30 minutes each(thats a LOT less than her norm) , but she stayed in good spirits. Big sis is only with us on the weekends and I think Cassidy is starting to realize that and doesn't want to miss a moment! :) 

post #11 of 14

 

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Originally Posted by mamareba View Post

Wait, kitchensqueen, you go all night without feeding your little guy? I haven't even come close to that yet.  


Yep - he's been sleeping through the night for awhile now, for the most part. Once he's down, he generally sleeps like a log. The major downside with it is that he's not really taking daytime naps at all. He'll sleep for 20-30 minutes two or three times during the day, but not the big two hour naps he used to take. 

 

post #12 of 14

Kitchensqueen - I bet with working during the day you would love him to nap...but then you need those long chunks of sleep at night to be able to work well in the first place!

 

Mamareba - I think the arms fall asleep after the baby and wake up before the baby. ;) Sometimes he cracks me up because he looks like one of those wind-up monkeys that play the drum, know what I mean? Luke has never been soothed by the swing, he will only tolerate it long enough for me to grab a shower each day. My daughter used to love it and loves to swing to this day (she's 4). My oldest son also disliked the swing and never liked to swing at the playground either. Funny how they're so different from each other. Luke has had some days like that too where it's clear he just doesn't want to miss out on anything! It is so cool to see their personalities emerging.

 

I think my little guy is having trouble pooping. He has always pooped infrequently but we're going on a week here. He is showing some real signs of discomfort and I can only guess that that is what it is. He was up for an hour from 3:30-4:30am which is really unusual for him. At that time he usually nurses and slips right back to sleep. He just couldn't settle and kept kicking and grunting. I have been bicycling his legs (though he does that pretty well on his own), giving him more time on his tummy, carrying him in the colic hold, massaging his tummy, all to no avail. He will just do these little smears in his diaper (sorry if TMI). He was really out of sorts after waking this morning and just fussed rather than being his usual super happy self. I nursed him more upright and he conked right out less than an hour after waking for the day and has been sleeping on me for more than an hour. He's not showing any other signs of sickness or anything. Sometimes I WISH they could tell us what is bothering them!!!!

post #13 of 14

 

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Originally Posted by Gracecody View Post

Kitchensqueen - I bet with working during the day you would love him to nap...but then you need those long chunks of sleep at night to be able to work well in the first place!

 

Yeah, it was rough for awhile there! Two weeks ago my husband stopped temping to be a full time SAHD though, so at least I'm not trying to go it alone anymore. It was getting pretty impossible, really. And on March 19th I'm going back into the office full time, so that will be another weird change to deal with. I'm going to miss being home all day with my guys! Even if I am tied to a computer all day, I still get to see them, you know? It's really tearing me up knowing how much I'm going to miss. :-( But at least by that point I'll have the first six months of having been with him for every single day. I know I'm lucky; not everyone gets that much time. 

 

post #14 of 14

With my first two, I got six month maternity leaves and with my third, I got none (apparently the university thinks two children is enough!). Which was amazingly generous by US standards. So I really soaked it up and had a great foundation with my babies.  When it was time to go back to work, yes, it was very hard to leave them, but having great childcare made ALL the difference. What peace of mind I would have had if Daddy had been the one at home with them! We had two different babysitters who were fantastic but still not Daddy. My husband works from home too and like you, although he is tied to the computer he gets some nice breaks to run around with our daughter or hold the baby.

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