Congrats, MidwifeSteph!!!!!! Stick, stickybean, stick!!!!
I hope you're all well. I'm still lurking and following, and sending you all positive baby vibes!!
I hope you're all well. I'm still lurking and following, and sending you all positive baby vibes!!
MidwifeSteph- Congrats of your BFP!!
Yay Steph!!!!! Congrats on the BFP!
Allison- Any news about the condo?!?!
Outdoorsy- How frustrating about your clinic!! IMO, for what its worth, charting would be a good thing for you to do even if they don't recommend it. You know your body and situation better than anyone else and having that information, even if it isn't the most clear information may be helpful as far as timing goes. And maybe they would be able to look at the information with you and help to clarify it if need be. Like I said this is just my opinion but it sounds like at this point more data would be useful if they aren't going to be tracking things further with follicle scans and such. I really hope you get this worked out and soon.
Esenbee- I hate dead batteries on thermometers!!! Why does it always seem to happen when it would be really nice to have that temperature?!?! I'm sorry that you are having AF like cramping I hope she isn't coming to visit you.
Anna- Things are going well! Thank you so much for asking. Today, and in general, I'm feeling pretty patient (although I really have my moments.) Yay for hump day! I think yesterday was our hump day too because I'm pretty sure we'll start testing 10DPO, even though results may not be accurate. (so much for being patient!!) Maybe we will be like Dandy and Planet and get our BFPs on the same day!!!!!
Sancta- That sucks that your fav, KD maybe moving out of the country? I don't know if this is an option for you but have you thought at all about freezing and storing some of his samples?
Cananny- Yay for taking your last pill and giving up caffeine and soda! I really hope that this is the medication that works for you! Remind me, where are you at in your cycle right now?
Belle- ( I like that better than southern ) Congrats on your first beta! May you have wonderful much higher numbers next week!
Krista- If you are still around, I'm thinking about you and hoping that all is good!
AFM- 6DPO and counting! I am hanging in there pretty good, I think. Although I have moments where I am sure that I am pregnant, its not really because of anything more than a thought or feeling. I am trying not to read into my "symptoms" too much and again, in general I think I have done pretty good. I am observing more than obsessing at this point. But on that note, I do want to know what all you lovely ladies think... I've noticed that my breast have been sore (but they are typically fairly tender) and that my cervix is still really high and I have quite a bit of creamy/sticky CM. I'm not sure if this is normal for me or not. It seems like at this point my cervix is typically moving back down and quite firm. The other thing that I've never noticed before is that my abs feel engaged all the time. I'm not sure if that makes sense. It could be just in my mind or from this feeling that I've had of "protecting the baby." I have no idea why that would be a pregnancy symptom though... What do you all think? Am i just crazy?!?
woo midwifesteph!!! congrats to you and dp!!
Hopeful: thanks for the shoutout. I'm here, watching all of you! (Midwife: a huge congrats. I hope everything sticks as it should!)
I've had some trippy things happen in the last 24 hours:
Oh and here's a doozy for you from the medical community....We finally had another lesbian join our infertility group last night (it's bascially been me and a bunch of straight women for over a year). Her fertility clinic told her why she hasn't gotten pregnant over the past year through IUIs is that she has an "exposure" issue. Meaning she hasn't been exposed enough to sperm over her lifetime. WTF?? I know there are a few doctors out there who do believe that but then how do you explain all the teens who are getting pregnant with little to no previous exposure to sperm? Oh, yeah because they have YOUNG eggs! It just amazes me the things that doctors come up with. You think that they'd be looking at age and other issues in regards to her inability to get pregnant instead of just focusing on limited exposure to sperm. <sigh>
CONGRATULATIONS! may this be your sticky bean!
(ps do you want me to move you over to the graduates section?)
Steph and Belle: Congratulations! Stick little beans, stick!
Nosreves: I'm so glad it went well for you. I think the cramping is a common side effect. I hope this is your first and last IUI. I'm so glad the Belgians are more reasonable than the French, but I wish they would tell you more about your donor!
Outdoorsy: I second the recommendation to chart. My charts didn't help with us, but every person's body is different. I hope this next cycle is your last!
Hopeful: It's hard to be rational during the TWW. Every symptom or non-symptom seems like an indication. It will be over soon!
Essenbee: I hope it's not AF! Let us know what happens!
Invitin: It depends on the reason you ovulate late. If you normally ovulate past CD20, then the eggs are probably fine, but if it's because of PCOS or hormones, then the quality is degraded significantly. At least, that's what I've read.
AFM: We've had a really hectic week thus far. We ordered our swim team this morning and my MRI was this afternoon. I hope it comes back normal. Our next appointment is Monday. The costs are outrageous, but thankfully our RE has proven to be very clever at billing insurance companies. When I called, I was told I had NO coverage for infertility treatments, but it turns out they have to pay for the monitoring and such. It's all in the billing. Here's a breakdown of the costs for anyone who cares. The first number is the insurance; the second number is us.
First appointment of the cycle: $550/$0 (+$60/$40 if I see the doctor)
Monitoring Appointments: $350/$0 (+$60/$40 if I see the doc) Last month, I had to go in 4 times because of all the complications.
Trigger Shot: $45/$45
Sperm: $0/$800 (includes shipping)
The last expense is the biggest, of course. We're paying about $200 more than the cheapest sperm we could find. It was really important to us to find a bank that did a lot of genetic testing; we want to give our child the best possible start. Some of the banks only test for cystic fibrosis and we weren't comfortable with that. This stuff is more expensive than gold; we wanted the best we could find. Our total out-of-pocket came to about $1200 last month, but my MIL chipped in a considerable amount.
It may be less this month. I just found out that the RE actually got the insurance company to cover part of the IUI -he broke the billing down into sections, so they may not charge us as much this go round.
belle -- i totally missed your post above! CONGRATULATIONS!
just out of curiosity, is there a reason you are being so cautious about so many positives sticks and a good beta? also, would you like me to move you to graduates?
Hi all. I *was* charting until the first midwife told us not to, although I found the temps a little inconclusive sometimes.
Question: The instructions for the basal thermometer say not to used a heated blanket, but we have a heated waterbed. You can't use the bed without the heat, my wife says, or you will get hypothermia from the water. She does NOT want to give up her bed. Has anyone temped with a heated bed? Do you think it is OK?
outdoorsy- a heated water bed huh? wow. fancy! Here I was picturing you on a camp bed, lighting a fire to make your morning coffee- from your name n'all.
Although, thinking about it, I imagine they're all heated. Who would want to sleep on a bag of cool water?
I have no factual info, but I believe the way temping works is 'comparative'. So as long as you always sleep on the heated water bed and the bed is always set to the same temperature your charts should show the temp drops and rises as for the rest of us, sleeping on our sacks of hay and so on...
If your bed really is warming you up you may find that your temperature drops may not be as extreme as us hay-sack-sleepers, as the water may even it out somewhat (see, I did pay attention in geography class when they were talking about oceans warming up landmasses and such things... )
Having said all that, IANAWFE (I Am Not A Waterbed Fertility Expert) so you may make up your own 'facts' as you please.
Also, I misunderstood for the longest time what 'charting' actually means. I sort of abbreviated it to mean just 'temperature charting' but actually (and maybe especially in longer or unpredictable cycles) it's the rest of the stuff that is really helpful in pinpointing and predicting ovulation- cervical position, cervical fluid, sex drive and 'intuition', etc...
The temperatures will only tell you that you've missed it (once the numbers jump up), which is not terribly useful. It's the 'predicting' bit that you're looking for and I'm finding that almost impossible to do with temperatures alone.
Steph and Southernbelle- congratulations!!
So excited for you both!
Whooo Steph congrats!! I would send you lots of dancing vegetables but I'm kind of messageboard-illiterate. Still, YAY!
Also, Belle - congrats!!! is there a point when you feel like your cautiousness will turn into elation or... ?
Something must be in the water this month.... 3 +'s in the first week??
Sancta - it's funny that your DP says that about twins. My DW is hoping for twins too. From my perspective, like, twins would be awesome (we want 2 more kids) but also, buying two car seats, two sets of cloth diapers, two of everything else.... it overwhelms me!
Krista --- I had a medical professional suggest to me that maybe I didn't ovulate properly because I wasn't exposed to sperm so my body didn't understand what it was supposed to be doing. She encouraged me to "just start trying" as if being exposed to sperm would jumpstart the part of my body that lesbianism had turned off. Now, I'm not sure there's any science to back up that theory so I took it with a grain of salt. Also, yay for the death of prop 8! Send that proposition to the deep, dark, lonely grave it deserves. My favorite line was “Proposition 8 served no purpose, and had no effect, other than to lessen the status and human dignity of gays and lesbians in California.” Uh, duh! (I have a california marriage, even though I don't live there) Anyway, I hope you and your partner get to have a home state wedding soon!
And I love the contrast of Outdoorsy's name and this heated waterbed. So funny.
AFM - CD3 ultrasound this morning to check for cysts. Fortunately, they found none, so that's exciting. I'm taking 100 mgs of clomid this cycle, starting tonight. Do you get a lot more follicles when you up your clomid dosage? I'm new here.... Does 2x clomid make your nipples 2x more sensitive? I am so excited to find out (not really)
Btw, the bed is set on 90 degrees, so it's lower than body temperature. And it's "Property of Wifey" from prior to our relationship. It was not easy to get used to!
Congratulations, Steph!! Happy & Healthy 9 months to you
I definitely think you're pregnant
Krista: Wow, that sounds like a really crazy theory (not exposed to sperm). Congrats on the 2nd house - will it be an investment property or will you eventually move into it? I agree that the sperm donor offered to you could have been an issue down the road....and I also understand how tempting it must have been! I hope IVF is the ticket for you :)
rs: Wow, I can see how it really adds up. Using a KD we still spend about 300.00 - 400.00 month on various things to do with TTC (acupuncture, herbs, supplements, etc.) That would be great if the cost was a bit lower this time around.
Cananny: Good luck for your scan on Friday!
mrsandmrs: Hooray for no cysts!
outdoorsy, wow, I didn't know they made water beds anymore! They were very popular when I was a kid. I agree with Anna, if you're sleeping on it every night it should be fine...it's not about individual temperatures, it's about the overall pattern. Good luck :)
Thanks for the good wishes everyone! I am trying to act like this is actually happening, "fake it 'til you make it", right?! It's also weird to work in birth work, because I already have clients due in September and October (I have a planned vacation in August) so I have to figure out what to do about them. For now, I am not taking any new clients but keeping the ones I have, at least for another few weeks until this feels more real and I can tell whether this little bean is going to stick around. :)
mrsandmrs: Glad there were no cysts on the ultrasound! Good luck with the Clomid, I hope it does exactly what it's supposed to!
Cananny: Good luck with your busy Friday! Hope the follicle scan shows healthy ready follies!
rs11: That does add up, so I'm impressed with how much your insurance did cover! Hopefully it all happens quickly so it doesn't add up too much. I totally agree about the quality sperm, that's what kept us hanging in with our KD for the past year- I kept asking myself whether the priority was speed, or the other things we had hoped for, and coming back to him again and again...
Nosreves: Thanks!! I guess I can move to the graduates section, why not be optimistic, right? I'm excited about your IUI and so wanting it to do the trick!!
Krista: i can't believe what that doctor said!! What is this, 1965??
Belle: Congratulations, and yay for a great beta!!
AFM: I called my naturopath (after seeing her on Monday and making all kinds of plans for trying to get preg) and she asked me to draw my hcg and progesterone, and then draw both again 5 days to make sure they were rising appropriately. The progesterone was 12.5 and hcg was 58 at 4 weeks past LMP. I guess that means things are fine for now? It's hard to not go for the serial betas (especially because I can do them at work) but they also make me nervous. Checking in five days seems like a fine plan, and I hope it will all still look good then. :) I'm definitely symptomatic! I actually had to leave work early today because I was so nauseated. Things kept getting better, then worse, and I went and lay down and couldn't figure out what was up. Then I realized it was probably my prenatal vitamin! Felt some guilt about not having been taking them, so I took one today and I think that was the culprit. Never mind that then! I might go find some gummy vitamins, or the liquid ones we have at work...
I just wanted to tell Steph and Belle CONGRATULATIONS!!! I'm so happy and excited for you guys!
Midwife: I have to take the liquid prenatals. I can't tolerate the solid ones even when I'm not pregnant. They're good, but a little sweet for my taste. Congrats again!
Could someone help me out with the whole veggie parade thing? For some reason, I can only do one emoticon at a time, and it takes quite a while to get them to load and get one inserted. I also can not seem to copy them. Is there a shortcut I can use? Any help would be appreciated.Thanks!