~~INFERTILITY ONE THREAD FEBRUARY 2012~~ - Page 12

[Sourire]

Sila - hopefully the Clomid crazies continue to take it easy on you

Chica - hooray for Ovulation!

AFM - CD10 today. I just had my first ultrasound of the cycle. Dominant follicle was 22mm already!!! That was my only follie though. Last month I had my first u/s at CD12 and my follie was 21mm. Dr says next month I should start monitoring even sooner. I'm not surprised at all that things are happening faster this cycle, I know from experience that I always O a few days earlier when I take progesterone the previous cycle.

So trigger is tonight, IUI Friday morning. The doctor was actually concerned I would O on my own before the IUI so he wants me to take an OPK tonight and if it's + they will move the IUI up to tomorrow. I'm also glad that my lining was in the normal range this time (8-12mm). I was right at 8mm today, last cycle I was worried cause I was at 13mm and taking progesterone on top of that, I've heard that a lining that's too thick can prevent implantation, maybe that's why last cycle didn't work!

[monkeyscience]

gozal - HA! I knew someone was gonna end up with twins, with the crazy high betas around here! Congrats!! If you want a book on multiple pregnancy/parenting, I read one I really liked, though obviously I have not been able to directly use that info. So excited that things are looking good at this stage!

chica - That definitely does look like you O'd - hope tomorrow's temp is just as high! I hate it when I get a fake jump (and I've had lots ). I wish my dh could be persuaded to BD as often as yours.

Sila - Glad you could finally get started, and glad so far you don't have too many side effects! Hope it stays that way! Ugh to the idiot doing the blood draws... please tell me you were doing them at some off-site lab and not at your RE's office? Either way, you'd think they might look at the bloodwork and realize you were having fertility tests done. Or just be a decent human being and realize it's not their place to needle others about their childbearing (or lack thereof).

Sourire - That website is really fascinating - especially reading the stuff about their own studies on things. I also read the Femara one, and it was interesting to me that a lot of their studies had a pregnancy rate of only about 10%. I definitely thought it would be higher than that. But I think a lot of them were also about people who had 'failed' another protocol before, so that may be part of it. I was especially interested to see that they had experimented with giving really high doses of Femara for just a day or two and still had success with it. So much stuff I never knew! Oh, and dh and I love Settlers of Catan! We got introduced to it while we were staying in Oklahoma a few months back, and we got it for Christmas. :)

shesaidboom - Sorry your brother didn't get that job and get out of your hair! I would have loved for you to get some threadkeeper's luck, too, but I gotta admit... not sure if I believe in that. I mean, who was the last TK to get pregnant while threadkeeping? But that reminds me of my dh and the "luck of the non-Irish". That's what he always invokes when looking for a parking space at our apartment complex (parking here sucks past about 4 PM). When he finds one, he says it's the "luck of the non-Irish", and when he doesn't, he says, "luck of the non-Irish - spottier than the luck of the Irish!" So I hope some of that spotty non-Irish luck finds its way to you soon!

TickleToes - Glad your RE meeting went well, and you have some plans for going forward. It sounds like your RE had a lot more information to give you than mine did (though my problem was very different). I like it when doctors don't treat you like you're too dumb to understand what's going on. I hope your tests bring some sort of answer. I also think it's cool there was actually a midwife there. I think a lot of REs would not be that in to working with mws. It must be such a relief to know you have someone to go to when you get pregnant again. I know that was hard for me - not having any sort of HCP - when I first got pregnant. I really wanted a beta or something to reassure me this was real, that things were progressing, but I didn't have anyone to ask.

cbaa - Sorry you aren't feeling pregnant. Shouldn't you have a beta sometime soon? I will still keep praying for a BFP, but if not, I am excited you have some new plans to go forward with!

To all those talking about it - I also saw the quints on the Discovery Channel. That was what finally, fully convinced me that I would never, ever want more than triplets, at an absolute maximum. I always wanted twins when I was a little girl, and I'd still be okay with them now, though watching SIL has made me a lot more aware of the challenges. And I've known for a long time that higher-order multiples have all sorts of risks and problems, but seeing how crazy it was trying to take care of all 5 of those babies, how there was baby stuff absolutely EVERYWHERE, and how insanely stressed they were with their financial problems really killed off the last of the romance of multiples for me. OTOH, I could never go through with a selective reduction, so I hope I don't ever need treatment that ups the chances of supertwins. But unlike the news would have us believe with Octomom, it does seem like most supertwins get conceived through ovulation induction and either intercourse or IUI, sometimes because there's no monitoring, and sometimes because people beat the odds and have all the eggs fertilize, implant, and/or divide! There's a lot more control with IVF, since they decide how many to put back in. I think that's another reason some REs push IVF. But it's so dang expensive/invasive, it seems crazy to jump right to it if there's a decent chance of success with other stuff.

Okay, I was trying to catch up to everyone, but that is just looking impossible, and I really need to go accomplish something for the day (besides eating breakfast and filing our taxes - not much progress for it being almost noon!) Good luck to all you ladies, and you are still in my prayers!

Oh, and AFM - still pregnant, and regressing some in feeling good. Just taking it one day at a time, getting a little bit more of a belly every day. Pretty much just assuming all is well until proven otherwise. Next mw appointment in a week and a half.

[Sourire]

Gozal - I just saw your post! Hooray for everything being fine on the ultrasound. So exciting about TWINS!

[wissa19]

Gozal - Yeah!  I'm so happy for you.  How exciting and everything looked good!  (ummm...I did say it sounded like twins)  ;)

cbaa - I understand exactly what you mean about IF being a journey.  Once I just accepted that this was my journey there must just be something I needed to learn about myself and my body I was able to cope with IF much better.  I know you don't feel pregnant, but I'm hoping you get surprised.

Shesaidboom - I can't remember...are you on femara.  If you are really afraid of multiples on injectibles you might ask about simply increasing your femara.  Injectibles was next for us, but my RE let me up my femara to 7.5mg and it worked!

Sourire - Crossing my fingers some swimmers find an egg and your lining is just right! 

tickletoes - I'm glad you found an RE that is sensitive to your needs.  It sounds really great that your friend was able to go with you!

teresa - I've got my fingers crossed for you to!  When is your beta?

[hope4light]

Shesaidboom - I'm so sorry that your brother didn't get the job.  That just sucks.  Could have been one less stressor for you!! 

Sila - Yes, this is what we have dealt with all along.  When DH was born the boys didn't drop.  Back then they just waited.  And waited.  And waited some more.  They finally surgical dropped them, but he was old enough that he REMEMBERS the surgery.  Yeah, a little traumatic for a little boy.  Anyways, because they were up there for so long in a not well controlled temp environment it did a lot of harm.  They told his mom at those appointments that he would probably have a tough time having kids.  He was honest with me when we got serious, but I tried to ignore it and think it could still happen.  So when we decided to try for #1 back in 2006 it took him over a year to convince me that we needed help.  Hindsight.

I was cracking up at the falling out of a handstand in front of the cute yoga teacher!  Sorry that you feel so clouded, hoping that it's all for a good reason and this will be your BFP!!!

Chica - yay for the O finally!  You are an amazing couple, I can't imaging being SO good about BD'ing SO much.  Wow.  Although I think DH would be happy with that much

Gozal - That is SO exciting!  Twins!!  Can't wait to keep hearing how everything is going.  I'm so happy for you!  Thank you for the extremely sweet words, you brought tears to my eyes.  It's so helpful having others in a similar situation help me to know that I'm making the right decision.

Sourire - Go Dominant Folly!  I'm sending babydust to you!  Let us know when the IUI does end up happening!!!

[Gemmine]

Sila: That sucks how you found out about her pregnancy. That just flat-out sucks. It's one thing for you to expect certain things from certain people, and much worse when you expect better and don't get it. Anyhoo, I'll be on the edge of my seat for you this cycle!

I'm leaning toward PMS today >: - l boooooooooo! Thanks for sharing your experience with the crazy pills, I'll be taking notes!

TickleToes: How did the testing go today? I'm so sorry you had to deal with jackass medical professionals and I hope this team will treat you better.

shesaidboom: That's what I ask myself all the time.....whyyyyyyyyy is this so expensive? I mean, I get why, but why aren't they offering more help? There are loan programs available at this clinic, but still. Yeesh.

Sourire: Now I need to re-google her. I remember it was IUI + injectibles but I could have sworn I read that the doctors told her NOT to have sex because she was overstimulated or something? And she did it anyway and voila 6 (7!!) babies. That scares the crap out of me! That is some great IUI information you linked, thanks! Oh, wow that is one dominant follie! I'm so excited for this cycle for you.

Hi cbaa cycle buddy!

chica: That definitely looks like ovulation! Yaaaaaaaaaaaay! Let the stalking begin!

gozal: OMGGGGGGGG  twinsies!!! I am so, so excited for you. How many mature follies did you have? You are so my Clomid + IUI role model right now!

monkeyscience: I was just thinking that the media, etc. has forced this impression on me (and many others) that high order multiples = IVF. My mind was blown when I realized most of it was from IUI + drugs. Most (non IF) people think IUI is IVF anyway. Crazy!

hope4light: Thank you for sharing DH's story; that is amazing. Wow.

AFM: 11dpo, feeling PMS-y. Bloodwork FINALLY came back and everything is normal. My FSH is 9 and they like to see less than 10. Estrogen is 46 and they like it less than 50. A tad freaked out that they're so close to the borderline number, but trying not to obsess. They said I'm not immune to chickenpox (I never got it but I could have sworn I got the shot as a teenager) and I should either get the shot and wait 60 DAYS to TTC, or sign a waiver. Yeah, I'm leaning toward the waiver.

[brichole1214]

Gozal:  i'm super excited about the twins news!!! LOL  :) 

Sourire:  I hope that you are about to catch your little eggie this month!!! Sending out lots of baby vibes your way!!!

Gemmine: I am with you on the signing a waiver!!! 

Renavoo:  Thank you so much for asking about thinking about me :)  I'm doing good i'm about to update myself in my AFM:  :)

AFM:  Things are going slow this month.  I've started loosing weight, and to date i've lost a total of 12lbs since January 1st!!! I'm super excited about that...it should help us to get pregnant!!!  At least i hope it does!!! I haven't really been tracking any fertility signs this month...i am just going with the flow this month...especially with what happened with last month and my period being later than it usually is.  I hope that we are able to get pregnant this month, but if we aren't i'm really not going to stress about it.  I've decided that it will happen when it happens if it's supposed to happen...I hope that came out right lol....

I've missed all of you ladies very much and i really am looking forward to getting back in here to check in more often...the traniees are ALMOST done THANK GOD!!! So, now i should have a little bit more time to come and visit :)   My birthday is this saturday (February 25th) and I am sooooooooo looking forward to spending a night away with my husband in a hotel room ALONE!!!! King size suite, drinks, food, and gambling!!! LOL  I hope that he knows how to stop spending money....because i don't really see myself staying up all night in the casino, i would rather be in that king size bed with him without having to worry about Emma waking up and killing the mood lol ha!!! At least i know that AF isn't due until next weekend so we are in the clear as far as that goes!!!  I hope everyone is having a great week!!!  

[SilaMarila]

Chica - Yay O! Was this an unmedicated cycle for you? I forget. Have fun going right to bed tonight! And I have to say I'm glad I'm not the only one that BD's all the time around here...

Gozal - Ahhh twinsies!!! I also appreciate your IUI success story. I'll be waiting for a heart beats update! Lol, that's me - barefoot yogi doula. It was so warm today! I will share with you and your twins any time!

Hello to the other pregnant ladies too!

Re: The Phlebotomist - Yes, it was an outside lab and not at the RE's so insurance will pay for it. But still, don't they have to read the slip and see what you are getting tested for so they know how many vials and how much to take? Anyways...

Sourire - Yes, so far no real side effects! No headaches, no terrible hot flashes. I hope I didn't just jinx myself. Woohoo for your nice looking follicle! That went by fast. Good luck on Friday morning! And I hope there isn't a next month. Interesting about the lining too.

Hope - I see. Interesting (and traumatic!) story. It still CAN happen! Sometimes we just need some help. Ugh hindsight, totally know what you mean. Intersesting in your situation your DH was the one trying to convince you that you guys needed help. It's usually the other way around! I'm glad I gave you giggle. That will teach me to not put my mat practically in front of his again!

Gem - Thanks! I'm ready for you to move on too. Though I'm still hoping you won't have to. I would sign the waiver too. Chances are you won't die from the chicken pox.

Brichole - Nice to "see" you! I'm glad it sounds like things are slowing down. Enjoy your birthday night away!

AFM - Still feeling fine so far. My mom's group met at the park today and I saw my friend. We talked just a little bit but I didn't feel like talking. To anyone. Not just her. I feel "needy" towards DH - I only want to be close to him and talk with him. I've had some of the cramping I always get throughout my whole cycle today. I'm hoping it's because good things are happening there, but worried and trying not to think that this is just like I feel every cycle and maybe nothing is different.

[toothfairy2be]

Gozal- TWINS!!!!!!! I had a feeling too, I'm so happy for you! Now you get to enjoy the multiples chapter of your favorite book too! What book is it, I'm also a medical nerd!

Sourire- Big Follie, perfect lining, fewer symptoms. I hope the stars are aligning for you- hope the IUI goes smoothly! I'm off to investigate the site you posted earlier.

Gem- hi cycle buddy- I am 13 dpo... on the fast track to period land... I hope you have better results. I am also fascinated by the IUI stats for higher order multiples, you are right, it would be assumed it is IVF...  Your numbers sound good- you never know how they change day to day, so I'd think that being close to the threshold is still OK. Also, sign the stinkin waiver.., 60 days is like... a long time in IF land.

brichole- so good to hear from you!! i'm glad the trainnees are almost out of your hair and that you have a great birthday weekend planned- hope it is fantastic one!

Chica- YAY for O! You and your DH are my heroes BDing that long by the way...

Wissa- I am to the point of accepting IF. The first 2 cycles on Clomid I just expected it was the magic bullet and I should be pregnant... it was so crushing when I was not. I have to say, I haven't had an ugly cry since my November cycle when I cried all the way to work after a neg HPT. Now, I just embrace this as my journey, nobody elses. I know we will get there & I will be happy to tell my future child how greatful I am for them and how worth it this journey is.

monkey- Eeeek a baby belly! So cool. We wouldn't do selective reduction either, but my RE starts monitoring at CD8 instead of 12 with injectables to avoid hyperstimulation. Again, I'd love two, but more than that would be scary, it wouldn't sink us, but I don't really want to find out.

Sila- The fact that you can even do a headstand at yoga is impressive.... I can't even do the crouching jump to a handstand thing properly... My yogi is a girl, so no crush there, so no worries for me looking foolish! I agree your life sounds so glamorous out in California... it was 57 here in MA today (20 degrees warmer than the 'norm') and I was out without a coat- take me with you to the beach pleeease! I hope those lost brain cells don't return for about 10 more months. Enjoy your Valentine celebration.

shesaidboom- did AF show for you? I am glad to have a 'hand to hold' with injectables too. This is my last shot through an RE so it would be nice to have it work before DH is gone for the summer. I am frightened of the prescription costs for Gonal-F.

tickletoes- good for you advocating for yourself. I am always a pushover and then I regret it. You deserve the best care and it sounds like the doctor you are seeing is a great person, which should reflect well on how caring they are. I also would push for the progesterone. It doesn't hurt and just because they dont 'believe' in it doesn't mean that statistically, there are women with 'adequate' progesterone levels who suddenly concieve after adding progesterone.

hope4light- Did the nurse have anything to say about your late period? I'm glad you are getting your cycle started, looking forward to updates!

AFM- BFN this morning, stopped my progesterone last night in hopes AF will show tomorrow and I can get to shootin myself in the belly. Annoyed I still have to wake up early for my beta when I know it is negative. I am actually feeling good as I really had no expectations. I'm still looking for someone to teach me Creighton charting for my NaPro appointment, but I can't seem to get anyone to e-mail me back, which is frustrating. DH and I had a really nice day today, its my day off and he was working from home so we slept in, I went to acupuncture, we took a long walk with our dog, went to church with my sister and niece, then had GF belgian waffles with fruit for dinner- I love days like this - aside from the BFN of course. A friend just told me magnesium is like natures anti-depressant, I wonder if taking it for most of this cycle has anything to do with my better mood and outlook? In other goood news, my acupuncturist is now treating me for for endometriosis and I'm on pycnogenol which in clinical studies has reduced endo 33%. Happy for happiness & hopefullness anyway & hoping the best for you all as well.

[teresaresa]

hope4light: I’m so sorry about your struggle with weaning. I can’t imagine what it must be like for your family to have to make those decisions. It completely sucks that weaning and fertility can be intertwined – sucks even more that it’s not an issue for others. I wish it didn’t have to be so hard. I’m sorry.

Sourire: Thank you for my red star wishes! Nice job on the awesome follie! What happened with the OPK-positive? Sounds like you didn’t even need the trigger. I’m sending really good vibes for your IUI!  I totally feel like I’m losing my mind – not sure if it’s Femara related or if I’m actually losing my mind ;-)  I wish I could come to your house for game night! My husband is not a huge game guy, though I did get him to play monopoly by flashlight last winter when we lost power. I’m sad that you don’t get to have much testing. All the monitoring/testing gives me even more numbers to obsess over – something to pass the 2ww J I did one go of the yoga DVD, but then decided I would start in earnest with my next cycle (hopefully there won’t be a next cycle!) How do you like it? Thanks for the IUI link – can’t wait to check it out.

Gemmine: I’m keeping my fingers crossed that you’re feeling implantation and not PMS! Oh, and I agree … sign the waiver!

SilaMarila: my beta is on Friday. Pretty sure I’m not preggers, but still keeping fingers crossed all the same. I’m so upset for you and your bestie. I know we’ve talked about it on this forum before, but IF can just be so damn isolating. Grrr… so totally sucks. Take as long as you need to scream, cry, and punch pillows. I know in time you’ll heal your relationship with her, but in the meantime (as others have said), we’re here for you!!!  Stinks that you have to deal with the situation while on Clomid, too. For me, Clomid made me super weepy. Though it seems from your post that you’re not experiencing too many side effects which is great!

TickleToes: Your RE appointment sounds like it was totally overwhelming, but really good. I’m someone who likes lots of information and data, so your account was really comforting to me. I’m glad you were able to express your need to be pampered and that the doctor and staff were receptive. It makes this journey a bit easier to have a supportive IF team. I was equally comforted to hear your doctor’s stance on progesterone. It’s reassuring to me to hear another doctor say virtually the same thing that my RE says. I think if you want it for peace of mind, though, he should totally give it to you!!!

shesaidboom: BFNs can go fly a kite. Sorry lady. Glad that your brother was gone for a few days, but totally sucks that he didn’t get the job – ack!!! I hate that your IUIs aren’t covered by insurance. How is it that Canada’s healthcare system is nationalized, but certain provinces (like Quebec) cover things (like fertility treatments) that other provinces don’t cover? Is there private insurance for IF? Sorry for being so naïve as to how it all works!  I think if I were in your shoes, I’d feel exactly the same way about ditching the IUIs and moving on to IVF.

chicajones: yippee for ovulation! Finally!

Gozal: Yes!!! So excited for twins! What does di-di mean? Super happy that your lovelies were the result of your BDing too – the romantic dream we all carry J Looks like you’re on the right side of the odds now!!!

wissa19: Thanks for the good wishes!!! Beta is Friday. Not feeling pregnant (or since I don’t know what that actually feels like, I guess I should say that I am feeling a little PMSish), but still keeping a little hope alive J

brichole1214: you sound like you are in an amazing place. I am so hopeful for you. Work sounds like it’s going to be easing up, and you’ve got some serious fun time with DH on the horizon (Happy Birthday to you!!!). Keeping my fingers crossed that the peace in your world leads you to a BFP!

cbaa: your AFM made me so happy. As per usual, your calmness leaps out from the computer and fills my heart with smiles! I’m sorry for your BFN, though I’m glad you already have your plan for your next cycle. Still, I’m keeping my fingers crossed for your beta tomorrow – you just never know J I have my beta on Friday. I want you to get pregnant asap, but if you don’t I’m really excited to follow your NaPro journey – it just sounds so interesting. Hoping that the pycnogenol does the trick for the endo!!

AFM: Feeling crazy stressed out at work. Everything just seems to be piling up higher and higher and people don't make sense to me anymore. Every academic department seems to be coming to me with ideas for how to fundraise, and I just want to scream and say, I’m the fundraiser here, let me do my job (sorry to those of you who are professors on here). I’m also having some weird brain freezes. Just now, as I was typing, I wrote out something that was really weird and not at all what I meant to type. Maybe it's just stressed? Or maybe it’s the Femara (thought it’s been quite a while since I took my last pill this cycle). My beta is on Friday, but I’m feeling pretty period-ish today. Don’t know how to describe this feeling I get, but it’s there. It’s also weird because my cycles are usually 30-31 days, and today is CD 23 which is really early for me to be feeling this particular period symptom. I’m thinking the trigger, etc. will have an effect on my cycle this month (it didn’t last month). Anywho…. Not sure what the plan for next cycle is – I usually find that out when I go in for my baseline testing!

[renavoo]

Just checking in to say, YAH Gozal! It took me at least a month to get used to the fact that we're having twins. I'm so excited for you!

Cbaa, I'm so happy you're in a great mood and taking the BFN so well but I just want a BFP for you, darn it! No more of these stupid BFNs for any of you ladies, please!!

Brichole, you go girl!!! It's so great that you are losing weight and I'm glad work will be easing. We miss you here and i can't wait to follow. As for your birthday, happy early birthday (in case you can't check in) and hope you have a blast during your weekend away. haha as the birthday girl, you should call the shots and he should do EVERYTHING your heart desires. :oD

Everyone else, I'm so behind but I'm hoping great things this month!!

[Smilesarefree]

Sourire – It sounds like your stars are aligning, I really really really hope this is it for you.

Gozal!!!! – Twins! I am so excited for you, it would take me awhile to process having twins, my dh would probably never get over it!  I’m also wondering what does di-di mean?

CBAA – Sorry about the BFN.  The part of your post about knowing that you will get there and how you will tell your child about how grateful you are to have them made me feel all warm and fuzzy inside, I could feel the positivity from your post, made me feel happy.

Theresa – Do you plan to test before your beta or are you going to wait it out?  Fingers crossed for you.  Sorry that work is so stressful, hopefully people will leave you to do what you need to do!

Tickletoes – So nice to hear how you told the folks exactly what you need/expect from them at your apt.  I’d keep my mouth shut and regret it later.

Chica – Wow! You and DH must be exhausted!!!!  Enjoy the tww, if that is possible!

Gemmine – I’m with the waiver!

Brichole – Sounds like you’re going to have a fun and much deserved birthday celebration!

AFM – I thought, because of ewcm that I had ovulated around cd 8, which is not that uncommon for me, I abstained from bd because I just didn’t want to try, crazy I know but part of me feels like what is the point.  Anyways, I regretted it.  So the cm dried up but then it came back so I decided to go out and get some opks’s, I did one yesterday and it was positive so now it looks like I probably o’d yesterday or maybe will today.  So after regretting my decision not to try earlier on you’d think that I would jump all over this second chance, but again I just don’t want to.  And I’m sure that in a day or 2 I will be filled with regrets again.  I just feel like all trying does for me is give me something to obsess about for 2 weeks, and that’s it, that it’s never going to do anything else for me – like give me a baby.  Obviously not trying isn't going to help me either!

[Sourire]

wissa - I like your advice of increasing Femara instead of moving to injectables. From what I've read the worst that could happen on a high dose of Femara is probably triplets. I will definitely bring this up with my RE at the next appointment.

hope - My DH is also the one who convinced me to get help with TTC. I would have probably waited until we had tried for a year but DH convinced me to make an appointment after 6 months (8 cycles). We had suspected it wouldn't be easy even before we started trying because there was all kinds of weird stuff going on with my cycles. It's nice to know that our DHs care about this as much as we do.

Gemmine - yeah I also read the stuff about Jon and Kate going ahead with the cycle against the Dr's orders but those might just be nasty rumours. The info I got was from Kate's book Multiple Blessings, there are some excerpts about her fertility treatments online. She did end up in the hospital with OHSS a few days after her BFP though. I've also read a few other stories about people having 2-3 mature follies and ending up with way more babies than that. I guess when you're on injectables some follies can grow REALLY fast between the trigger and O day. Crazy stuff.

Brichole - congrats on the weight loss and happy birthday! I hope your new strategy of going with the flow gets you a BFP, we've all heard the stories about people getting pregnant as soon as they stop trying so hard.

Cbaa - so sorry about your BFN honey. I'm glad you're still feeling OK though. Last cycle my BFN didn't hit me until about 4 days later when I suddenly started crying like crazy. I'm taking a Cal-Mag supplement, and I have been feeling pretty positive in general these days, maybe it's the magnesium!

Teresa - your feeling of losing your mind sounds exactly how I felt near the end of last cycle. I blamed it on the progesterone. I know that both Femara and the trigger have the potential to elevate progesterone levels in the LP so maybe that's what is making you feel that way. Though another possible cause of high progesterone is pregnancy... just saying! I'm excited to hear how your beta goes tomorrow! And btw I'm absolutely loving the fertility yoga DVD. I really feel like its helping. It may even be to blame for my super follie!

Also - in Canada healthcare is considered to be the provincial government's jurisdiction, but each province has to meet certain minimal requirements to qualify for federal funding (I think). Quebec has always been one of the more socialist provinces, and in general figures that if they can't separate from Canada they can at least do everything differently, so we tend to have a lot more services covered than the rest of the country. We also have better maternity benefits. Of course the flip side of this is that our taxes are way higher.

Smiles - sorry to hear you're having such mixed feelings about whether to try or not this cycle. I know how pointless it can feel when you've done the same thing so many times. I've taken a few break cycles in the past and it was so refreshing to not have to obsess during the 2WW! What is next for you in terms of OBs/REs?

AFM - OPK was negative last night so my IUI will be tomorrow! I suspect I might have gotten a + OPK today but now we'll never know because I did the trigger shot already. It can't hurt though if my body and the medication are both working towards the same goal!

[marmo]

GAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 

 I just finished typing out a ton of personals, and accidentally clicked on pg 11 and lost it all!!

I have too much to do to type that again today, my apologies. :(

I do have a question...  Since I seemed to ovulate and trigger on the same day.  So today I'm 10 dpt AND dpo.  I've been trying to test the trigger out, and got a negative yesterday.  Today, I got a very very barely visible line with fmu on an internet cheapy.  I know I need to just keep testing in the coming days, but wondered if it's possibly a bfp or if it's still probably the trigger.  I lost most of my patience with all of this some time ago, I want answers NOW! ;)

I'm still so mad I screwed up all those personals.  Seriously! 

[Vegan Princess]

Thread crashing. Marmo: I had trigger (ovidrel 250) last for 12+ days for all 3 of my IUIs - so it could still be trigger. Was yesterday's negative test w/FMU too? If so, it it probably real! Only way to know is if it gets darker tomorrow. Good luck!!

[teresaresa]

Smiles: I'm sorry you're feeling tuckered out with trying. The whole process is just so involved, and everything is based on a timeline. I think taking a month off is a really healthy thing to do - I wish I could summon the courage to join you. Maybe not trying will actually help you in that you'll be more centered going into next cycle leading you to a BFP?!?! I've been really good about not testing, but I really hate the feeling of being told that my beta was negative. So, I think I'm going to POAS tomorrow AM before the beta blood test.... that way, when I get the results in the afternoon I'll be prepared (or at least that's what I'm telling myself!!).

Sourire: I can't wait to start the DVD in earnest so I can compare notes with you :) I like your positive thinking on the progesterone front. I'm having "word salad" too (not sure if you've ever seen the show Boston Legal, but there's this episode where James Spader says random words instead of what he meant to say - he called it "word salad") on top of my other weird brain misfunctions. Thank you for the healthcare lesson! Makes a lot more sense now. Love those feisty Quebecois! I'm excited for your IUI. Sending you lots of positive wishes for this cycle. Allez-y!

marmo: Sorry you lost your personals :( I'm no expert, but I totally think it's possible to have a positive HPT 10DPO/DPT. Keeping my fingers crossed for ya!

renavoo: I can't believe you're more than half-way there! Go mama, go!

[hope4light]

Gem - sorry about the PMS, but glad to hear that the BW was normal!  Don't obsess about the numbers ~ we have to try our best to have the trust in our docs, and if they say you're good then believe him, no matter how hard it is!!  I'd do the waiver too.

Brichole - congrats on the amazing weight loss!  Happy Birthday, it sounds like your weekend is going to be wonderful, and welld eserved.  Sounds like going with the flow is really working for you this month, and that will hopefully allow for a stress free month!!  Glad to hear the trainees are almost done.

Sila - Awesome that you aren't dealing with side effects!  I'm hoping that keeps up and maybe is even a really good sign for this cycle

Cbaa - I'm so sorry for the BFN.  It really does sound like you're accepting IF pretty well, and allowing it to be a part of you but not define you.  That's really amazing!  It's so easy to get so caught up in it and let it define who you are.  I'll update on the late period in the AFM.

Teresa - Maybe since it's earlier than normal in your cycle it's something other than a BFN!  I'm keeping my fingers crossed!  I'm sure it doesn't help that you're dealing with all the work stresses, hang in there!

Smiles - I totally understand where you're at.  It's babymaking sex, and that's no fun.  There's no romance, no lust.  It's just 'get the job done so that I can have what I need.'  After a while it makes it almost impossible to really 'want' to do it anymore, but then yes, you feel regret because you gave up a month that could have been it.  Big hugs.  I hope that you have an easier time with the decision this time around.

Sourire - funny that your DH had to convince you too.  I'm glad that you listened to him and didn't wait as long as I did.  I agree, trigger and natural can only help!  Good luck at the IUI tomorrow, let us know how it goes.

Marmo - I have never been a tester, so I can't say from experience.  But like PP said, test tomorrow and see if the line is any darker!!!  Good luck, here's to hoping!!!

AFM - Tuesday the nurse had said they'd call in Provera.  She told me to test and then let them know Wednesday.  Well, then I started spotting late Tuesday night, so I'm just letting my body do it's thing.  I always spot for a bit before she comes, so I know she's on her way for sure.  Worst case will be early next week, as sometimes the spotting can last for up to a week.  I think it'll be in the next day or two though based on how I'm feeling.  Then I'll schedule the HSG.  I'm hoping to hear back today or tomorrow on the AMH levels, then we'll order the meds.  This weekend we are going to finish the weaning process.  We'll see how it goes, while I'm still stressed, bummed and even a little pissed off about it, I know that weaning her is actually for her as well.  I know I'll mourn for a few days, but I know that I'll be that much closer to giving her a sibling.  

[Gemmine]

brichole: Ah, a Pisces :-) I'm surrounded by Pisces and Cancer people. You crazy water signs!

Sila: I've heard chicken pox is dangerous if you get it as an adult and/or while pregnant; I just think the chances of me catching it at this point (when I haven't in 27+ years) are so slim, it's not worth it to put off TTC for 2 months. I know what you mean about feeling needy toward your DH. Gozal has set the Clomid + IUI bar for us, I'm so hopeful for you!

cbaa: I'm 12dpo today and feeling hella PMS-y. Yeah, 60 days would drive me INsane if I couldn't "try". Good news about the endo treatment from your acupuncturist. Your time is coming, I can feel it!

teresaresa: Maybe YOU'RE feeling implantation?? Keeping my fingers crossed for you. I'm sorry they're stressing you out at work. I work at a university so I know your frustration!

smiles: I know that feeling. I will say guilt has pushed me to just try anyway because I'd be more angry at myself if I felt regret, but I wish you peace either way.

Sourire: I'm hoping neither of us will get to that point, because you're right, that is crazy to think that many more follies can grow that fast! And then ALL fertilize! And then ALL implant!! Good luck for your IUI tomorrow!

Marmo: I was going to reference Cindy about it possibly still being trigger, but there she is! I'll be keeping my fingers crossed for you though.

hope4light: I'll be interested to see how your HSG goes. Wishing you peace on weaning your daughter.

AFM: Pretty sure I'm feeling PMS and will be out.

[chicajones]

GOZAL! Twins!!!  It's so funny, I had a feeling it might turn out that way. :) So excited for you! I'm sure it will be a big adjustment, but you can do it! It's nice that you've got renavoo and deborah and some of the other grads to compare twin notes with. :)

hope4light - sounds like you're getting close to preparing for a fresh start! I hope the next week goes by quickly and all of your signs come through loud and clear, so that you'll have a simple time of it this first (and hopefully only) cycle!

marmo - I can't imagine having to balance testing with a trigger as well! Just keep testing, and yes, hopefully tomorrow's line will be much darker!

sourire - goood luck tomorrow! I hope the IUI goes well! Will you also BD tonight just for the heck of it? Who knows, maybe we'll have a Gozal repeat. ;)

smilesarefree - how much longer are you waiting? It must be tough feeling so conflicted! Just curious--I thought you couldn't get a + OPK after you've ovulated? Maybe I didn't realize that could happen.

monkey - it must be fun finally having some of that belly show! I hope you're embracing it and enjoying it. :) Looking forward to your next MW update! Oh, and your DH's "luck of the non-irish" thing cracked me up! I love it.

teresaresa- just one more day till your beta! How are you feeling? I'm still holding out for you--there's still time for a positive beta! I hope things are going better at work as well. Stressful people are bad enough without adding in crazy drugs!  Have you tried doing any breathing exercises or just leaving to take a ten minute walk after you've accomplished a task? Those are some of the ways I'm able to make it through when work gets crazy.

Silamarila - The only med I've been taking is metformin (on month three of it now), and I am still on it. It's what got my cycles back to somewhat normal (not just 4 times a year!). It was very nice to just go to bed last night, and to know that DH and I can get a little more "creative" in the sack, now that I'm not so focused on the "babymaking" kind of activity. :) How are you feeling? I hope the cramping is indeed a good sign!

cbaa - so glad you're upbeat and doing well! Expectations can make such a huge difference. Your day sounded like it was lovely, especially the gluten-free Belgian waffle part! Yum. :) 

brichole - Yay for losing weight and feeling good! Your upcoming hotel stay sounds just lovely. There really is nothing better than a nice big hotel bed and your DH to snuggle with. :)

gemmine - PMS could be PMS...or it could be early symptoms. ;) Just sayin'....don't give up yet! When does AF usually show up for you?

shesaidboom - Sorry to hear about the job falling through! Hopefully another one will come soon and you can say Sayonara to brother for a while. I was cracking up at your yoga story, I've totally done that before. At least you didn't fart in front of him! My BFF is a yoga teacher and she has some wild stories, lol. Are you feeling any more "together" today? 

I don't know much about Threadkeeper's Luck, but I hope it does show up for you! Speaking of which, I was wondering if you could update my blurb for me:

Chicajones: (27) DH (30) TTC#1 since June 2010. Diagnosed with PCOS and Insulin Resistance in Oct 2010. Long cycles, currently taking Metformin and watching my sugar. Moving to the UK in the fall, but hoping for a BFP before we leave!

 http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/32b88b

AFM, thanks for all the celebration of my FINALLY O'ing! Yay! Today's temp was high too, so it's official to me. This is the first time I've used OPKs to help with nailing down ovulation (nailing...haha..get it....). I'll admit, it's pretty reassuring. Although I only tested once a day--I just don't know how I could pee in a cup at work!

I almost tried to BD last night just to cover all my bases, but we were to tired and it was soooo nice to just go to sleep! This next 2ww seems like it's going to take forever, especially going into the next month and having this horrid baby shower on Saturday. It's for the crazy friends I've mentioned before (this is her actual shower), and I'm dreading it. I really can't not go, but I'm hoping to locate anyone there without children and just hang with them the entire time and NOT talk about babies. We'll see how that works. ;)

The weather here is so nice today! I hope it's warming up for all of you. March is almost here, so birds n bees n all that. ;)

[Smilesarefree]

Chica - I'm not sure about the getting a positive after you ovulate but I thought that with the pos test yesterday and ton of cm that I probably was going to o yesterday.  I did another opk this afternoon and it was super positive again so maybe I still haven't ovulated.  I 'm not sure why I keep testing, I guess in case I change my mind about not trying this cycle.  I really should start temping.  For me the worst thing about baby showers is the questions, for some reason it seems to give everyone leave to start asking When are you going to have another?  You shouldn't wait too long, your daughter needs a sibling etc.  That I can't stand like mind your own freakin business.

Sourire - Good luck tomorrow!!!  I'm waiting for a call to tell me when my ultrasound and apt with the ob is, and dh needs to make an apt for blood work and SA that's where we are at - boring!\

Theresa - I would probably do the same, test myself in the morning so that I already know the answer in case it is bad news.  But hopefully for you tomorrow it will be the best news!

Gemmine - I have been feeling guilt over my decision, I had another +opk today so it looks like I still haven't ovulated and maybe I will change my mind and bd tonight.  I feel like I need to add to that "even though there is no point".   I need to get out of my funk, it will not do me any good!

Marmo - You must be going crazy!!!  Hope your line is darker in the morning.Ho

Hope4light - I hope that the weaning goes as painlessly as possible for you and your dd.