~~INFERTILITY ONE THREAD FEBRUARY 2012~~ - Page 14

[SilaMarila]

YAY GEM!!! AHHH!!!

...personals and about me later....

[chicajones]

Ahhhhhh, GEMMINE!!!!  Came on specifically to see what was up with you today and was so thrilled to see your post! I love how you were all downplayin' it n stuff. ;) Keep us updated on how you're feeling! I can only imagine how beside yourself you must be. I hope you enjoy some wonderful celebrating today!!

Sourire - yes, we pretty much are cycle buddies right now! I'm 5dpo, so just a few days ahead. Wouldn't it be fun if we both got BFPs this month? Seems like February has been a pretty happenin' month on this thread so far--I'd love to carry that into March (And by that, I mean a baby, lol)!

CBAA - Oh, sweetie. :( I'm so sorry. Money can be the hardest thing, especially when you're feeling guilty about it. It's a bummer that DH is giving you a hard time about it as well. Hopefully he'll be more supportive after getting over the initial info. If you can't return them, then at this point there's nothing left to do but keep moving. This is what is, and you'll only make yourself feel worse if you stay camped in regret too long. Might as well use 'em to their fullest and you never know, this could still be the month. I have also heard of a number of women who have had endo, got pregnant, and then didn't have to deal with it again. I know that's definitely not always (or maybe even usually) the case, but I hope that it is for you, and you will avoid even having to have any procedures. Be sweet to yourself, we're all thinking of you.

Marmo - What's happenin' lady?! The link did not work for me--did you test again? Sitting here in suspense!

shesaidboom - I am so with Sourie on the lady in your clinic! She needs to figure out some childcare, some discipline, or some self-awareness (preferably all three)! Hopefully she'll be on a completely different schedule than you and you won't have to deal with all of that any more. Sorry to hear things have been rough with you right now as well. :( Thank you for updating my blurb, and for being such a sweet threadkeeper! Hope this week looks up for you!

AFM, 5dpo and I am feelin' rough. I had zero energy Friday night or yesterday, to the point that DH was like, "Is something up with you?" Been feeling a bit nauseous and crampy as well. I feel like it's way too soon to be feeling any symptoms, but I'm not sick and I have never felt like such a useless human being (other than being sick). I might try to blame it on the weather (it's been pretty gray here), but there's part of me that does wonder if it's something else. I feel like this 2ww is really going to take forever. 

Thanks for everyone who has been encouraging about the baby shower I went to yesterday--it really ended up not being too bad. It was a "couples" shower, so I just hung out with DH and the guys most of the time. It was chock full of babies and moms, so I didn't interact with them a whole lot, and that made things so much easier. I really don't care if they thought it was weird, it kept me sane. :)

A happy end-of-February-week to you all! Let's hope that March continues the baby train! I'd love to see a mass exodus from this thread. ;)

[monkeyscience]

Just dropping by to say...

Yay Gemmine and marmo!!! Marmo, I'm pretty sure if it isn't getting fainter/going away, it's a BFP, whether or not you can see it getting darker. I am hoping for an update today, though! I will be praying for sticky babes for both of you ladies!

And shesaidboom - I think most, if not all, of us have been in that dark place. I know I have, and it was ROUGH. I am so glad you're going to see a counselor, especially one who specializes in fertility. I hope that helps you. And that totally sucks you have to wait so much. Especially with such rude people. I always had to wait forever at my RE's, another reason I was not planning to go back there after my failed cycle. Didn't seem to matter when the appointment was, or what it was for. And as a teacher, I barely had time to go to the doctor anyway, let alone waste an hour or more sitting. Bleh. I'm guessing you don't have an option to switch somewhere else? In any case, s to you. I would definitely love to see/hear more about your wedding planning if you want to take a break from all the baby talk. :)

Everyone else... . Hope your cycles are going well and we'll have lots more to celebrate in the weeks to come!

AFM, now I've got dh's cold. Bleh. But excited for my mw appointment Friday. Can't believe it's been 4 weeks already... the first 4 weeks between appointments was endless. BTW, if you aren't being monitored by an RE, ladies, that's what you have to look forward to after your BFP... instead of a TWW, it's a FWW! But I hope you can all experience that soon. ;)

[marmo]

Shesaidboom- That sounds like an awful experience all around at the clinic.  I think talking to someone should be a part of IF treatment.  Dh and i were having some issues, and when we were looking for a counselor, we saw a lot that dealt with infertility.  I've also been looking for a book that might be a help.  Supplements, doctors, and meds can only do so much.  They can't heal your heart.  I hope you find someone.

Cbaa- I'm so sorry about the pain, the hopelessness, the guilt, the expense, dh's reaction...  all of it. 

Gemmine- Hoooraaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :)

Chica- Glad the shower wasn't too bad, and that you had dh and friends to spend the time with.  ANd i hope those are some early pg symptoms!  Sorry you're not feeling well, but it means a bfp... :)

Monkey- 4ww sounds like torture right now. 

afm- I fixed that link.  I have taken a bunch more tests, and they are indeed all getting darker.  I'm calling it.  It's a bfp.  The nurse told me not to test before Thursday and give them a call then, but I want to call tomorrow.  I'd like to get b/w asap, but I'm not sure that they'll even see me before thurs?  ANyways, thank you all for your support and excitement.  I wish I'd have had the guts to be a part of this forum much much sooner. 

[Sourire]

MARMO!!!!!!! I was just waiting for your permission to get excited... I'm super happy for you!!! Congrats!!!

This is what... Our 5th BFP in just over a month? And 2 in one weekend is just nuts. This thread is on fire! We could probably compete with the One thread over on the TTC board.

[Smilesarefree]

Gemmine and Marmo – Hooray!!!!!!!!  So very excited for you both!!!!!!!!!

Theresa – I would have felt a lot better too hearing – you were right instead of I’m sorry….  I like to try and feel in control as well.

CBAA – I hope you are feeling a bit better about things.  Maybe now that your dh has had some time to process he is feeling better too?  Hugs.

Chica – Hopefully feeling like crap is a good sign!!!!!!

Sourire – Yes, let’s give the one thread a run for its money!  Hope your 2ww goes by super fast.

AFM, well, I started doing opks last Wednesday as I thought that I had already o’d but started having ewcm again and I have had positive opks for 5 straight days now, I haven’t done one yet today but I bet it will be positive again.  I’ve been having ewcm everyday as well.  For the cycle that I was taking off so that I wouldn’t obsess here I am obsessing about what the heck is going on.  I plan on doing an opk everyday until they turn negative.  I read that sometimes your egg has trouble popping out and that can cause a continuous surge, idk what’s going on but it is annoying.  Every cycle something else weird happens to me.  Also my nips are sore, anyone experience that with ovulation?  And of course I ruled out pregnancy although I knew it wasn’t possible.

[hope4light]

Theresa - No, I didn't have an HSG the first time around, so this will be a first for me.  Ha ha on DH and the brain salad - that's too funny.  What is his excuse? 

Sila - sorry about the side effects, but here's to hoping that the sore boobies don't go away because it turns into your BFP!!!

Chica - glad that the baby shower wasn't too bad.  Who cares what everyone else thought - it's all about self preservation.  The fact that you managed to go and keep yourself sane is amazing to me.  I'm hoping that these are early symptoms of pregnancy!!!  Go body go - make Chica a baby!!!

Sourire - OMG that's awesome!  9 times more sperm, that's just amazing.  Go boys Go!!!

Shesaidboom - I'm so sorry that you're having a tough time.  Like a PP said - we all get to that dark place at one time or another.  Big hugs.  DH and I promised that as we got this cycle moving we'd find a therapist who specializes in fertility, so that's what I'll be doing today.  I hope you can find one too. 

I can't believe how long the office made you wait, that's crap.  And to have to sit there and watch that b**** not even taking care of her kid, but trying for another?  That's absolute BS.  DH and I swore that we would NOT take our DD to the docs office with us.  When I went through primary IF and had to see kids in the RE's office it just broke my heart.  I understand that you don't know if they dealt with primary IF or not, but you would think they would recognize the hurt it could cause others.  ESPECIALLY if you're not even paying attention to the kid, and then leaving them alone!!!  UGH.  People never cease to amaze me.

Has the Puregon gotten better?  I'm hoping so......

cbaa - I'm sorry that you're struggling right now too.  It's just another 'cycle,' some days are going to be easier than others.  Try to keep positive.  I agree with Chica - don't let yourself wallow in the regret, it'll just make things harder on you.

Chica - on that note, I know that your message wasn't pointed at me, but I wanted to let you know that it helped me so much.  I was struggling with my choices this weekend when it comes to weaning, and you made me remember why I'm doing it, and to not regret it.  Thank you.

Smiles - that is crazy on the OPK's!!!  Yikes.

Gem and Marmo - OOOOOMMMMMGGGGG!!!  Congrats ladies!!  I'm keeping the prayers up for sticky beans!!  This is SO EXCITING!!! 

AFM - Well, this weekend was, I guess you could call it successful.  The weekdays are the real test as I don't get to see DD very much, so she tends to want her mama time.  I'm hoping that when (if) she asks for it tonight that mama snuggles will be enough, for both of us.  On a happier note, AF FINALLY showed up first thing this morning!  So I'm getting ready to call the docs and schedule my HSG, and see if they got my AMH levels back yet, and see what they show.  I'm going to try to find a counselor today for DH and I to go to.  After primary IF almost ended in divorce, we agreed that the only way we'd try again is if counseling was involved.  So neither of us is willing to break that promise.  Yikes!!!

I hope everyone has a good week, and all these crazy symptoms coming out are all for BFP's!!!

[wissa19]

 - Marmo & Gemmine!!!   So exciting!  I LOVE it, LOVE it!!!  BFPs!

Chica - fingers crossed there is something to the way you're feeling!  & Yeah for O!

Sourire - Excited you had bunch more swimmers this time!!!

shesaidboom - I'm so sorry you had such an awful time at the clinic.  As a mom of a 4 year old I have to say that mother sounds awful!!  That's pretty much the way any 3 year would act, if left to entertain themselves.  It drives me mad when I see women on their phones and not watching their kids!  It mostly happens to me at the park and I end up watching everyone's children.  I've thought of getting a sign that says "Just because I watch my child, doesn't mean I want to watch yours too!!"   

Smiles - Wow, five days of positive OPKs!  I know absolutely nothing about that.  I'm sorry you've been feeling so down lately.  I know IF can really really mess your emotions.  Hope you hit an up swing soon.

Monkey - Sorry you have to wait so long for your appointments, but I think that just means everything going along as planned.  (Of course, my RE's office has you come in every week after a BFP!)

Cbaa - Sorry your DH isn't as on board with your fertility plans as you need him to be.  I went thorough that with my DH.  The cost of everything really did freak him out.  One day I asked him if he was going to miss that money when he was holding his newborn...and he said "No."  After that, it was much easier to get him on board.  I think men have a hard time seeing the big picture (i.e. the end result).  I also told him that there were certain things I had to try before I could quit and be happy.    Do you think maybe you could put the injectible cycle off until after your lap?  Just having the lap, might not be enough and chances are you will still need some kind of fertility drugs.   I know when you are in the "go zone", it's hard to back up...but maybe that is what you and your DH need right now. 

Sila - looking for good news from you in a week or two.

I hope that the fire burning around here causing all these BFPs doesn't go out anytime soon. 

AFM - Just waiting on my ultrasound on Friday. 

[shesaidboom]

cbaa - I hope your injection experience is easier than mine. How is it going so far?
I'm sorry your cycle is already feeling off. I'm hoping that it is possible for you to get pregnant and you won't have to worry about surgery just now. If this cycle does not work, are you going to do surgery before trying again?

Gemmine - Congratulations! That's great news. I'm so happy for you. Let me know when you're ready to be moved to grads.

Sourire - I really hate that you have all been in this place too. I wish none of us even had to think about infertility. I was wondering the same thing about that woman. I hate judging because maybe she's depressed or something and is having a hard time too, but really? Be respectful of everyone else going through this crap.
I inject the Puregon in my abdomen. I have a choice of abdomen or upper thighs. I've never even felt the Ovidrel shots and my RE told me these ones would be much easier. Nope! Still painful.
I'm glad to hear that your appointments help. I'm hoping the counselor will be able to help me with some of these awful feelings.
Good luck with the 2ww! Let's hope you continue that BFP trend!

chica - I didn't see the lady at the downtown clinic yesterday, so I'm hoping she won't be there when I go back in tomorrow. Thanks for the good thoughts!
I'm sorry things are feeling rough, but I'm hoping that's a good sign. Let's hope the 2ww goes by quickly and you'll be sharing some happy news with us!

monkey - I hope the counselor helps too. It really is hard to waste all that time at the clinic. I'm a teacher as well (although not hired yet, but that's another story). I think I probably could switch clinics, but this one has the highest success rates and is rated the best, so I'm not sure what I would get anywhere else. Thanks for the hugs and good thoughts.
As for wedding planning, that is definitely helping to keep me sane through all this infertility stuff! At first I was uncomfortable at the idea of spending so much for a party, but now I'm glad to have the distraction. I started a website, which gives a little peek at things and lots of info for our guests (http://capesandcrowe.blogspot.com/). I'm going to keep adding more to it as time goes on, and will post some wedding pictures afterwards. Right now I'm working on a lot of crafty projects. I'm knitting a bolero to wear during the party, am working on the table cards, and also some decor things. My close friend designed our invites and we just sent those off to the printers. I'm probably going out later today to buy some ribbon for another project. My problem is I keep thinking up more things I want to do and there's no end to it! Still, it is a great distraction right now.
I hope your cold heals quickly and you feel better.

marmo - CONGRATS on your BFP!! I'm so glad. This BFP trend is a very good thing. Please let me know when you're ready to be moved to grads.
I agree. I think talking should be essential. I know for me the whole thing ended up being a lot harder and a lot more draining than I had expected. I'm probably not alone there either. Thanks so much for the support. Without this place, I'm not sure how I would have gotten this far.

smilesarefree - Even if it is annoying and confusing, I hope all that extra ewcm helps get you a BFP! Keep us updated.

hope4light - Thank you so much for the support and understanding. I think it'll be a very good thing for me to see a counselor. I hope it's a good experience for you too. You and DH are very sweet for thinking of others and finding alternate care for your DD. Thank you for doing that. It is so upsetting when people just don't care.
Hurray for AF showing up! Now let's get this show on the road :)

wissa - I can't wait to hear about your ultrasound!

Your experience at the park sounds awful! A park is not a babysitter, and you are not the park babysitter. Jeez. I'm so glad there are mamas like you who would actually make sure their kids were respectful of others if they had to come along to a clinic. It seems that it's not very common at my clinic.

AFM, I am not enjoying this Puregon cycle at all. I am having all kinds of side effects...headaches, stomach aches, nausea, dizziness. I also get pain in the injection areas for a few hours after the shots. Yesterday the shot didn't hurt though! Either I found a better spot to do them, or dp is getting better at them. A nice surprise as well is that my RE originally told me I'd have to go in for monitoring every day, but so far it has been every second day. I only had to go to the downtown clinic once this weekend. It was a negative experience that I'm not going to go into because I'm always complaining about cycle monitoring, but at least it was only once!

Since we're nearing the end of February, I wanted to ask...does someone want to be thread keeper for March? If there are no takers, I'd be happy to do it again, but if anyone wants the experience, go ahead!

[chicajones]

Just saw there's a new "at home" sperm test coming this month, thought you guys would appreciate: 

http://healthland.time.com/2012/02/27/ill-take-a-sperm-test-to-go-first-at-home-male-infertility-test-debuts/

Bout time!

[Sourire]

Smiles - Positive OPK's for 5 days is crazy! What kind of OPK's are you using? Has the test line been as dark the control line the entire time? Are they getting darker or lighter? I've heard of having + OPK's for a long time before, and it doesn't seem like a very good sign. Your LH surge is supposed to last 24 hours so you should have 1 or 2 days of + OPK's. Something's up with your hormones! Hopefully you can get an appointment with a Dr soon to see what's going on.

Hope - so glad to hear your AF finally showed! That sounds like a great idea to go to a counselor with DH. Sometimes I wish my DH would come to my counseling session with me, though I usually give him a play-by-play of most stuff afterwards.

shesaidboom - love the wedding website. I did one too for my wedding and it worked out well. Your wedding location looks like it will be beautiful. I hope you have nice weather. I had an outdoor wedding in a garden and for 2 weeks before (up to the day before the wedding) they were forecasting rain for the wedding day and I was freaking out!!! I ended up having the most beautiful sunny day ever :D I didn't do that many crafty things for my wedding but I'm super proud of the card box me and my sisters made, it was so pretty. Glad you have those distractions!

I don't think you should feel guilty about complaining too much on this thread. That's what we're here for! And plus it makes the rest of us feel more normal when things are going badly for us (see my whiny AFM paragraph below haha).

I would be happy to be the threadkeeper for March btw!

chica - at home sperm tests sound like a great idea!

AFM - I feel like garbage today (physically). My right ovary (the one that ovulated on Friday) has been SUPER sore since yesterday (similar to the ovulation pain I have with Ovidrel, but this is lasting way longer), and on top of that I feel really nauseated, dizzy, headachy and tired. After some googling I came to the conclusion that all my symptoms match with mild Ovarian Hyperstimulation Syndrome. It's pretty rare to get that if you're on Femara (much more common with injectables) but it is possible anytime you take Ovidrel. So I called the fertility clinic and mentioned my concerns to them... the nurse acted like she had never even heard of OHSS! She was like, maybe you have the flu!!! She also said there's no way this could be related to Ovidrel because it's been 5 days since the injection. I was super irritated that she wasn't taking my concerns seriously. Anyways based on what Dr. Google says, it will probably go away on its own and I should only get worried if the pain becomes really severe or if I start vomiting or if I start gaining weight rapidly (1-2 lbs per day). So I guess at this point there's nothing to worry about but I still think that nurse is an idiot. 

[teresaresa]

SilaMarila: I’m so sorry the side effects finally caught up to you. I’m hoping your sore ta-tas are just a practice run for this month’s BFP! Keeping my fingers crossed for your blood work.

chicajones: how was the shower? Did you get to crack any good jokes? Did your SIL protect you from the crazies? So totally keeping my fingers crossed that your symptoms are implantation related. The thread really is on fire, and it sounds like you might be next in line for that shiny BFP J

Sourire: You’re so lucky you can tell when you ovulate. I have no clue! Glad your DH’s swimmers were Olympians!

shesaidboom: Ugh. I’m sorry you had to wait so long at the doctor’s office. Any time I go in for more than just bloodwork, I’m there for two hours. The lady in the waiting room sounds horrendous. It’s hard to see bad (or lack of) parenting – especially when we’re trying so hard to just get the chance to be parents. You’re a better woman than me, because I would have had to say something. I’m sorry the shot hurt so much L And, I’m glad you’re going to see a counselor. I wish my therapist were a fertility specialist. She’s good, but I think someone more knowledgeable about this process would be helpful. Thanks for sharing your wedding blog! So much fun!! I did a lot of things by hand too, and I’m not even super crafty. I’m glad that you sent your friend’s invitation design off to the printer. I actually printed and glued mine myself…. Not fun! But I did love the way they turned out J

marmo: Yippeee!!! So excited for you!!! Sending you lots of sticky thoughts. I was wondering all weekend what was going on…. Woo hoo!!!

cbaa2010: Yowza! Lack of prescription coverage totally sucks. If there is a Boston Resolve listserv, you should lurk there. I know the gals on the NYC one are always giving away meds they didn’t use. How was the first Gonal injection? Hope the other reasons making you cranky have resolved. I think we’ve all crashed and burned on the hope train every now and again. You’ll get back to that shiny, bright place again J

Gemmine: What the what!?!?!?!??!? I was keeping my fingers crossed, but you totally had us all fooled – including yourself! YAYAYAYAYAYAYAYY!! So super excited for you! EEEKKK! Yippee!!!

Smilesarefree: Why is pregnancy not a possibility? Sounds like an awful long time to be surging, although I don’t know much about it. I’m keeping my fingers crossed that it’s actually a BFP (isn’t a discharge an early pregnancy sign too?). Have you thought about taking a HPT? Sending you hugs all around.

hope4light: DH’s excuse is that he’s old. He seriously wants to get a brain scan to make sure that it’s not early onset Alzheimer’s.  I’m like, dude, you’re old, but you’re not that old J Hoping your HSG goes smoothly this week. Yay for AF J

AFM: So, I am now 17 DPT, and no AF. I’m not surprised as I ended up having a 20 day LP (or post-trigger as I’m not sure when O was) last cycle. Still, it’s frustrating to be living in the waiting zone so much. I was talking to my therapist today about the fact that I’ve gained back a good bit of the weight I lost over the summer. I was saying how I’m just so tired when I get home from work that I can’t bear the idea of even doing yoga let alone something cardio. And she pointed out that taking care of your body is something you do in the present and that so much of my life is being lived in the future (everything is so planned out and my life is just filling in the space until the next appointment/test/etc.). That made sense to me and hopefully will help me get unstuck. Now that I know this cycle was a BFN, I just want to move on to the next cycle. So frustrating. So, maybe I’ll try to spend sometime this week focusing on the here and now and not what will happen when AF arrives, and I get my CD3 testing, and I start my next protocol, and…., and…, and…. J

[shesaidboom]

Can someone post the name of the fertility yoga video everyone was talking about a couple weeks ago? I can't seem to find the posts, but I wanted to order it since my routine is getting old. Thanks.

[Gemmine]

Thank you guys so much. This is surreal.

Sourire: My friend was having a birthday dinner Saturday evening so I just tested to make sure I could have liquor that night!! Otherwise, I wouldn't have tested until tomorrow. I'll be stalking you! . Ugh; I hate idiot nurses. I hope this isn't OHSS but keep us posted on the pain.

chica: Couples showers can be a LIFESAVER. That's the only reason I got through the last 2 I went to. Your temps are looking nice and high, which could also explain your early symptoms. I'll be stalking you too and am so hopeful!

monkey: I hope you shake that cold soon; that must be miserable!

marmo: Wheeeeeeeee! So happy for you. We might be due date buddies. I know what you mean, I lurked in this thread for a loooonnnnggg time before joining.

Smiles: I can't remember, do you temp? Are your temps low?

hope4light: The HSG isn't too bad (provided you don't have any blockages). I think it definitely cleared some stuff out for me. I hope it goes well for you. I hope the counseling goes well for you and DH too.

wissa: Hoping Friday gets here in a hurry for you!

shesaidboom: I'm sorry you're having a rough time with the meds! What cycle day are you on? AF will officially be late tomorrow, so I'll request it tomorrow :-) 

teresa: I TOTALLY had myself fooled. I was writing off every single one of my symptoms. I hate they're so close to PMS. 20 day LP?? Wowsers. Is there a reason why, or was it just one of those fluke-y things? What are you going to try next cycle? I'll be thinking of you.

AFM: If anyone wants to know what I did differently this cycle:

Mucinex and baby aspirin. A year since the last pregnancy, with everything "perfect", and this is the only thing I do differently?? It had to be 1 or the other. Or both. Maybe my body is just a Hostile Cervical Mucus/blood clotting Factory Machine. I also had the HSG in December. Still in shock.

[SilaMarila]

First, Marmo!!!! Yay congrats! Thinking of you and you your bean!!! Loving all the BFP's around here!

Oh and Gem, I calculated that your EDD is my DS's B-day! It's a great day  We haven't heard from you since your news, how are are holding up/feeling?

Shesaidboom - I'm sorry you had to go through that terrible experience. I'm worried that I may have to take DS with me sometime (but doing everything I can so I don't) and I would hate to hurt/offend anyone there struggling to conceive there first. I'm sorry this cycle is so rough so far! How long do you keep up the injections for? I'm glad the monitoring has been less than you expected too.

Sourire - You chart is looking nice. Are you going to keep us updated on any LP "symptoms" you are feeling or be sneaky? I am interested in a therapist who specializes in IF. I listened to a pod cast about it the other day...I just know we can't pay for another thing right now... Just saw you posted again! Feel better little ovary! I guess just monitor how you are feeling and if you think it is serious fight to be listened to!

Cbaa- Big hugs. I don't even know what to say. I'm sorry you are in a hard place right now and that you are feeling financial guilt. It's not too late for this cycle. We just never know until we try. I hope DH has come around and is giving you the support you need right now. Do some yoga and meditating :)

Chica - Lol feeling "rough". That is a good way to put it. My last 2 cycles I felt like this during my LP. I thought for sure I was prego. I think my progesterone might have just been really high and that was what I was feeling (I was taking herbs from my acupuncturist to help keep it up to sustain a pregnancy). I literally could not do anything. I had to take a nap every day. In your case, I hope it's a baby in there! Whew, couples shower. I wish all showers were that way!

Monkey - Actually 4 week wait sounds so much better to me right now. I think it will really help me just to know there is already a baby in there and not to constantly be think if/when I will O.

Hope - Good for you for doing the counseling. I'm glad AF finally made her appearance! What ever took her so long?

Wissa - Thanks! Me too. I'll have to lurk about your u/s

Teresa - It's so hard to live in the present when you are going through all things we go through. I do hope you take your therapists advice! Take care of yourself, we are here for you too! 

AFM- Clomid day 4 was definitely the worst of my symptoms. I'm feeling good again! Normal even. Good news is that the Clomid doesn't seem to be affecting my CM (common side effect). We started BDing last night and are planning on every other day or more if DH wants until we see what is going on in there on Thurs. Time is going SO SLOWLY. Thursday seems like SO far away. I'm having internal conflict and really not feeling too hopeful for this cycle. Like maybe if I'm not hopeful at all it just might happen. Or if it doesn't I'll be like, I thought so and won't be disappointed. 

[Sourire]

teresa - I can only tell when I O on Ovidrel... otherwise I don't feel anything at all! And what's with everyone having delayed AF around here? That must be torture. After a BFN usually I feel like crap until I can start getting involved in the next cycle.

shesaidboom - The yoga DVD is called Restoring Fertility: Yoga for Optimal Fertility. I only found one place to order it from in Canada: http://www.acubalance.ca/restoring-fertility-yoga-dvd ... it's kind of expensive but I found it to be worth every penny!

Gemmine - I've heard lots of stories of people getting BFP's soon after an HSG, maybe that was what helped in your case!

Sila - I started listening to the Creating a Family podcasts after you recommended them and I love them! They talk about such interesting things, and there is so much useful info.

I usually try not to pay attention to LP symptoms since I've had them all in the past and they all resulted in BFN's... the only thing I care about is spotting! Until the spotting starts, I'm super optimistic, but when it shows I lose all hope. So you probably won't hear much speculating about symptoms from me.

I'm glad you're feeling better and that you still have good CM! I know exactly how you feel about convincing yourself that you'll have a better chance of a BFP if you're not hopeful, I've totally done that before! DH, on the other hand, thinks that if I'm too pessimistic I'll hurt my chances though so I'm constantly at war with myself over whether to be optimistic or pessimistic. My therapist says both of those ways of thinking are BS and I should just try to identify what my true feelings are and express them in an appropriate manner (aka talk about them instead of having a tantrum). My therapist also says that being able to share what we are going through with other people in the same situation is a great form of therapy so even if you can't afford counseling I think this group might be the next best thing! My therapist definitely approves of you guys ;)

[wissa19]

Sourire - Just poppin in to say that my ovaries were super sensitive last cycle cycle and I had some pain...which turned out to be cysts from Ovulation.  So, maybe that's all it is.  Nurse, sounds like complete pain.  So far, the nurses from my RE clinic have all been super nice and very knowledgeable, which is nice because after my first ob I was not a happy camper.

teresa - Sorry you are "stuck".  I used to get that way, where I just wasn't really functioning.  Anyway, it's almost summer so maybe you can lose those extra lbs.  At some point in my TTC journey I figured if I couldn't be pregnant then I would at least be thin.  ;)  (and I was)

chica - at home sperm testing.  lol.  If we hadn't gotten our BFP, I probably would have been using that.

shesaidboom - I hear you.  I hated cycle monitoring.  I don't know exactly why, but I didn't like it all.  Plus, it sounds like your RE's office is just not a lot of fun.

Edited by wissa19 - 2/27/12 at 5:38pm

[chicajones]

gemmine - Can you give us some details on exactly what you did (dosage, schedule, etc) with the baby asprin and mucinex? I've been thinking about trying both but wasn't sure exactly how/when to proceed. If this cycle is a no-go, then I'd love to try that next. 

[Gemmine]

Sila: November 4??? I was just thinking how I couldn't think of anyone with November birthdays and I'm pretty sure your son is awesome so it sounds like a good due date. I'm glad the side effects are done for you. Is the post-coital test Thursday?

Sourire: This group definitely has therapeutic qualities :-)

chica: I started taking 1 baby aspirin every night beginning on CD3. I would have begun on CD1 but I didn't have a chance to get to the store until CD3. Mucinex, I got the maximum-strength, 12 hour dosage and took those twice a day starting on CD11 I believe, through CD15 (I usually O CD14). Make sure the Mucinex is the regular kind, not the kind that has 'D' after the name or anything. The only active ingredient should be guaifenesin. I also ordered preseed but didn't get a chance to use it in time.

How is everyone else doing?

AFM: Feeling a little blah today. My test this morning seemed a little lighter than the one I took 2 days ago and my nipples don't seem as sensitive, so I don't have a good feeling :-(

[Smilesarefree]

Gemmine – I hope, hope, hope, that everything is ok.  I’ve had 2 chemicals and I know the terror that can accompany a bfp. 

Shesaidboom – Sorry you are suffering through the side effects.  You are lucky though that you have a wedding to plan to keep you distracted!!  Dh and I just ran to the justice of the peace one day, and sometimes I wish that I had a big to do.

Sourire – It’s been 6 positives in a row now.  I did another today (#7 - yeah I am obsessed) and it is still quite dark but maybe not quite as dark as the control, hard to tell, but the last 6 were without a doubt positives.  I’m using first response.   And yes my hormones are out to lunch.  No word yet on when my next apt will be, things are so slow around here.  I hope you are feeling better and your ovary pain has gone or at least gotten better.

Theresa – I did do an hpt just to be sure and it was a bfn.  I hope af shows for you soon, interesting in what your therapist said about being in the present and not the future, sounds like something I need to do, I sometimes feel that I am wishing my life away as I just want time to pass so quickly so that I can be at the next stage whether that be oing or af coming or whatever.  I should just take time to enjoy where I am right now.

Silamarila – Glad to hear that the side effects seem to be behind you.  What happens on Thursday? Ultrasound?  Have fun with the bding!!!