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I finally got an email notification! joy.gif Maybe because I sent a complaint using the support form. I hope it's fixed for good.
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Maybe so! hooray!

 

oh, and obviously, it's on facebook - but DD is rolling - both ways! she rolled back to front, hung out on her tummy for a few minutes and rolled right back onto her back! and she did it again this morning, so it's not a fluke!

 

DS has been a wild child this morning. He finally crashed, now maybe I can get some work done! (if DD lets me!)

post #143 of 407

I'm getting notifications now too again. Finally!

 

I wanted to share this blog with you guys. It's still in it's beginning stages, but it's a very wonderful man from my local attachment minded families group. He is transgendered, in a gay relationship, and gave birth to a son last year, and is seeking to exclusively provide breastmilk for him through his own production and donations. It's an amazing story of dedication and love, and the struggles that he's facing being a breastfeeding man. It's been really eye opening for me, and helps you remember to be thankful for everything you have and every opportunity you are given. 

 

http://www.milkjunkies.net/

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Wow, JJ, that's a great blog. Thanks for sharing! What amazing dedication to providing a baby w/mama milk!

 

Happy Valentine's Day lovely ladies! I hope you all have a fantastic day. I spent the day with my sweet little valentine and now I'm at work. Boo. Oh well. I'm looking forward to this weekend because my sister and her family will be visiting and we'll all be staying at my mom's house so that will be fun. Crazy and loud and disorganized but fun!

 

My mom is taking care of DD this week while DH is out of town for training and she is getting so flustered by the cloth diapers. I don't know why they are stressing her out so much. She's not had a problem with them before when she's watched DD for a couple of hours. Maybe it's the 9+ hours at a time being in charge of her that's stressing her out. She went out today and bought a pack of 7th gen dipes to use. eyesroll.gif She asked if it was o.k. and I said I didn't care but I'm not buying disposable dipes!

 

I went and bought alfalfa today. So I'm taking 12 pills/day of fenugreek and 12 pills/day of alfalfa. I've only done one dose like that but I think I got more milk out! I know my letdown seemed more forceful! If this doesn't work, then I will do the Mother's Milk tincture. It was pretty pricey at Whole Foods so trying to hold out on that.

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Annie - hope it works! I know you can keep up with the demand!

 

you know, I thought we would have Gabe in sposies when we brought Norah home, but we never did take a break, I just taught MIL how to do cloth laundry. (well, I wrote out instructions). No one has ever been flustered by our cloth (we use pockets and AIO), except FIL sometimes puts them on backwards, but that happens in sposies too! LOL

 

I am addicted to selling things . . . and buying them! I have a SSC for DH on the  way (a nana's jetpack) and also a geckos wrap that is for when I want to wear DS, or when DH wants to wear Norah. He's considering learning to wrap!  I am so excited! silly me, I know.

 

Need more sleep! Dentist tomorrow - yay -

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That's an interesting blog, JJ. I only read a couple of posts. I can't believe someone would accost him on the airplane like that. I'm curious, though. If he can make milk, why does he need to supplement? Just the normal whatever happens sometimes so that one can't make enough milk or something more? I know you probably can't answer that.

My mom has a hard time with my cloth diapers, too. It really makes me laugh since she used cloth herself and encouraged me to do the same with Ryan. I think for her the problem might be that my cloth diapers are more like sposies, which she never used. She used prefolds so doesn't know how to put on a fitted diaper with snaps. lol.gif

Basketball is over! joy.gif I'm glad Ethan got to play and I think he enjoyed it some but I'm so glad it's over. No more running out 3 nights a week when Dylan is napping and/or we should be eating dinner. By the time the boys start something else, Sean should be home so I might not have to do anymore running around at night. Maybe I'll be able to stay home with Dylan and relax a little while he takes Ethand and Kellen around town.

Dylan took a late nap this afternoon and then tried to sleep in the car but it was never long enough. So, now he's been asleep since about 8:30. I am hoping he'll just keep sleeping but I doubt it based on his track record. I sent the boys upstairs for the rest of the night. I'm so burned out today. I just can't take their noise and everything anymore. I must have asked Kellen a gazillion times today if he had to poo and told him that I did not want to have to clean up before right before rushing out the door to basketball. So, what happened? I smelled poo as we were getting in the car! I had to leave him like that. I didn't have time to clean him up. He didn't even care. He has been doing so well, too. We've just been having a crazy, bad day.
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DD is giving my mom a run for her money. My mom texted me earlier tonight that I needed to call because DD had thrown up twice. Oh my. She does that sometimes. Doesn't mean she's sick, she just vomits like a sorority chick...hahaha! But my mom is convinced she's having reflux issues. Ummm, no. She's been off  the zantac for almost a month. She's fine. My mom is just not used to dealing with a high needs baby for so many hours at a time. I texted DH and said that the next work trip, DD and I are going with him. lol.gif

 

MW, totally know how you feel about activities. It's always great to give the kids the opportunity but man is it a pain in the butt to get out to them all the time!

 

akind1, I get like that when I start selling a lot of stuff on ebay. I want to sell more!

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Just a thought because nearly all of us are on FB anyway, but my DDC created a FB group. Would that be a good idea for us? Not that I want to abandon MDC, but it kind of consolidates things. Again, just a thought.

 

Man I am tired. DS has been non stop all day and DD only wants to sleep ON ME. No one else. Oi. And she fights sleep too. I hope this isn't that 4 month sleep regression stuff.

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Just a thought because nearly all of us are on FB anyway, but my DDC created a FB group. Would that be a good idea for us? Not that I want to abandon MDC, but it kind of consolidates things. Again, just a thought.


I'd like to stay with MDC. I find it hard to follow posts on FB groups. I get notices of new posts on them but there's no way to go to just those new posts, unless I'm missing something. Plus, it's not conducive to writing longer posts. It's more for short things.

Kat ~ I hope this sleep regression or whatever it is short lived.

And, yes, I'm still up at almost 1 am. Dylan is finally asleep.

We watched the new American Supernanny tonight for the first time. Now Ethan has a business plan for helping other families with out of control children. He says he has lots of experience because of Kellen. lol.gif

Back to the butter vs. margarine question. I looked over the Earth Balance ingredients and I'm not sure it's equal to margarine. The way I understand it, the problem with margarine is hydrogenated oils that produce trans-fats. No hydrogenated oils means no (unnatural) trans-fats. Earth Balance label says no trans-fats. I know that labels can claim that even if they do contain trans-fats as long as it's below the FDA's percentage or level of them. But the Earth Balance list of ingredients does not contain hydrogenated oils. It's a blend of oils. Maybe the blend produces a solid product without hydrogenation.

Sean says when he gets home he can take Dylan in the night if he won't settle. I appreciate his offer but I don't think it's a good idea. I don't want him to get up with Dylan and have Dylan think it's time to get up. KWIM? Sean said that he would then just switch places with me, laying next to Dylan away from me. I can try that but I really don't see it working because Dylan wants to nurse during that time. I'm all for Dad comforting the baby as much as possible but not keeping baby from mom when he needs milk. Another KWIM?
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Yeah, you had me wondering about the margarine/ earth balance thing. I swear the margarine we usually buy, which is a very basic no name type, says right on it 100% non-hydrogenated canola oil. But of course, the last two shopping trips we've gone on, they haven't had it, so we've been buying parkay-- which obviously does have 'extras' in it. I prefer to use butter usually, we just have such a hard time with it, because it needs to sit on the counter so it's spreadable, but we don't go through it fast enough for it to stay 'safe' on the counter. The smart thing would be to take a pound and cut it into four or something so that we could take out pieces at a time, but we never think of that. All a moot point right now though, since I'm on margarine for the time being. 

 

MW-- I get what you mean. I have that problem with DH, where I want him to take her so i can have time to myself, a breather, or to get stuff done, but at the same time, if I hand her to him and ask him to put her to sleep, she usually comes back to me 20 minutes later, and she's even more hyped up than before. And even though I've tried to talk him through what she needs me to do to go to sleep, he still does his own thing. It's nice for the DH's to try to help out, but not if it's on their terms and not the baby's. 

 

Kat-- I'm with you. I think I'm going to go crazy. DD has ALWAYS had horrible 'naps', but since about 3 weeks or so (or maybe I'm kidding myself, but it's been awhile) she has typically had really good nights. She goes down around midnight, and sleeps 3-4 hour stretches until 10am. The last little bit, we've noticed that she'll do one good long stretch until about 4am, and then she's up again at about 530 or 6... and then she's up every hour. And then this past week, she got even worse, and not only is she wanting to be up and feeding every hour (even though her tummy is full and she promptly pukes it back up), but we're having a heck of a time getting her down for good out of our arms. She's falling asleep fast (for awhile we were having hours long shriekfests until she exhausted herself), but no matter how long I wait, or how headweight she appears to be, when I try to put her down into her bassinet or into our bed even, she's awake and screaming within 5 minutes. It would be one thing if we could put her in bed beside us, but that's not good enough, she wants to be ON me, while she's sleeping again. She hasn't done this since the early days. *sobs* I'm so tired! I don't sleep properly when she's on me because I never really fall into a good deep sleep, and I'm uncomfortable, so I wake up sore in the morning. Add that to her waking up every 90 minutes, and I wake up feeling like a truck hit me. 

 

She had SUCH an amazing day today, and then fell apart at like 9pm, and it's been trying since then. She was tired, hadn't really napped since early afternoon, so I started trying to put her down at that point- 9pm. Well it's now just after 1am, and she hasn't sleep more than 15 minutes at a time, and twice has woken up shrieking when I tried to put her down into her bassinet so I could go pee and wash my wash before bed. 

 

So... now I'm back on the couch with her on my lap sleeping, and I guess I'm catching up on the internet! lol. I know it's very likely just a phase, as she's been eating non stop lately too, but my gosh I'm ready for it to be over with! My saving grace this whole time with her high needs has been that at least she sleeps well at night, so I can recharge in between. And now I'm not getting that either :( Grrrr. 

 

Re: Diapers- the only person that's had to deal with them was my mom, and she didn't blink an eye, which was so great. We have pockets, and prestuff them, so they're very easy to use, granted, but I was pleasantly surprised to see that she even did them up on the right snaps! lol Honestly, I think she was probably nervous and didn't want to get it wrong, so she counted which ones they were snapped to on the old diaper.  I did get a laugh at the doctors though, she unsnapped the dipe, did her checks, and then resnapped it... but like, fall off loose. The diaper has four settings for snaps, and fits 6-18lbs. We're on the tightest setting still, and DD is 11lbs. The doctor put it on the second from loosest setting. I was trying to figure out a polite way to fix it, without seeming rude, thankfully she left the room soon after. 

 

I've been very lucky, because not only has Rob stepped up and does half the diaper laundry, never complaining (he actually did all of it for almost the whole first month), but he actually requested for me to leave the stuffing to him, because he says he enjoys it. And every so often, I'll find him on his computer looking up new colors or prints that he's interested in. It's very cute. 

 

Oh, and about the dad-- my understanding is that he does produce some, but not enough for all their son's needs, so he uses an SNS as well. I don't know if it's related to the hormones, or the breast surgery, or a combination of things or what. 

 

So I'm doing "ok" with the no dairy thing, except I miss my cereal (I tried it with soy milk this morning, but I just can't do it, it made me gag), and I am SOOOOOO craving chocolate. If I end up having to stick with this, then we're going to have to go get some of the high quality chocolate that has no dairy in it or I'm going to go crazy.   I also need to try some other milks. I was hoping that I'd be more accepting of the soy in things (I've only tried to drink it straight before), but it's not working. I can't get over the taste. And I don't drink milk, but I wanted it for cereal, and ocassionally for like scrambled eggs and stuff like that. 

Alright, my head is starting to dip, so off for another try to get into bed. Wish me luck... 

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JJ - Parkay still has dairy in it.  I hope you realize that, or that you aren't using it right now while you're trying to eliminate dairy.

Different brands of soymilk taste different.  Which brand didn't you like?  I think I've tried them all.  8th Continent is probably the most creamy and similar to whole cows milk.  Silk is ok.  

Chocolate -- Ghirardelli chocolate chips are dairy free, so it the Endangered Species brands, and a few of the Lindt dark chocolate bars are as well.  The intense dark squares are good and since they're individually wrapped, they're perfect when you just NEED chocolate.

 

We use Earth Balance.

I think it's hard to explain why someone would choose to use margarine or something "less than healthy" when it's because of an ethical reason.  I'd rather eat margarine or vegan cheese than take part and consume something that comes from the animal industry.  To me that's just bigger and more important.  It has a heavier weight to it than the fact that I might ingest some transfats.  It's not that I don't care about myself or my kids, it's that I care more about standing against such a hugely corrupt and awful industry.

That said, I still don't think even if I owned a cow and she was happy that I could drink her milk or make butter.  I would let her nurse her calf.  Idk how to reconcile consuming another animals milk (even though i've been able to and have had trouble staying vegan during pregnancies.  It wasn't for health reasons, it was more b/c of convenience and cravings, like baked goods and mozzarella sticks.  Not exactly heathy.  I never actually drank milk or used it by itself.)

 

Kat - if it's any consolation, the 4 month sleep regression was AWFUL for us, but we made it thru.  There's light on the other side.  I hope Norah gets thru it fast so you can get some quality sleep in!!

 

Re: DH's helping.  I'm all for it, but only if I'm completely at the end of my rope.  If its THAT bad of a night, I'll usually struggle thru it, and then pass baby off in the am for a bit, and sleep in for an hour or two.  

DH knows to wake me or come get me if Finn is hungry.  He knows my wrath if he waits too long!!  My rest doesn't come at the expense of the baby being hungry.

 

I want to stay on MDC, too!

 

I'm not super thrilled but last night Finn grabbed pizza crust and went to town on it.  Not my idea of a good "first food"!  But once he had it, he was nomming it.  I think it might be time to seriously think about offering him something at dinner each night.  I was not like this with DD.  She was NEVER this into solids -- at least not at 6 months!  Finn screams and flaps his arms and lunges and grabs and shoves things into his mouth.  DH did find evidence of food in his diaper, too, so he's "getting" some.  Sheesh!

 

I was at Whole Foods and I peeked at the packaged stuff (kat, i think you mentioned you did the plum baby purees and things, right?)  any who, SO expensive for what they are!!  My goodness.  I also looked at some rice teething biscuits but the 2nd ingredient was sugar.  I think I can do better making some.  Anyone make teething biscuits?

What are some things you're feeding your babies besides mama milk?

post #152 of 407
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JJ ~ Can't you get butter already split? I leave mine out on the counter for weeks and have never had a problem. I know "they" say you are not supposed to do that but, like you said, it's the only way it can be used for spreading. If I were going to fry with it, I'd use a chunk out of the fridge.

Rice milk is probably the mildest tasting and texture of milk subs. I can't use coconut milk with my cereal because it's too thick, almost gooey. I just quit eating cereal. I don't drink milk otherwise, so that's not an issue.

The Earth Balance website says something about using "natural saturates" and a unique blend of oils instead of hydrogenated trans-fats. It's a bit confusing, though, because I don't know exactly what they mean by "natural saturates." Does that mean oils that are naturally saturated or does it mean using something natural to saturate them? shrug.gif I'll have to look further.

Here is the FAQs page for Earth Balance that explains it. Apparently, the oil blend they use is stable at room temp so they don't need to use hydrogenation or use interesterification. http://www.earthbalancenatural.com/#/heart-health/faq/

I didn't read far enough in that blog to learn if the man had had surgery. Makes sense that he wouldn't make enough milk if he essentially had his breasts removed.

I remember having to sleep with Kellen laying on me for a while. I don't remember how old he was. It was hard to sleep that way. I was always afraid he'd roll off me, although it was only a few inches to the soft bed, so I kept my arms around him and couldn't relax.

We had a great night last night! Although Dylan was up late because his nap schedule got all messed up, he slept for about 5 hours once he fell back to sleep! Then he nursed and slept for another 3, nursed and slept for another hour. He didn't get up until 10:30 or so. I'm a little nervous about how that's going to affect his schedule today. He usually takes his first nap around 11 and then wants another around 4 but that's not going to happen now. But I'll trade being kept up all night for staying up late and getting 5 hours of straight sleep. smile.gif

The only solid food I've consistently given Dylan is bananas. He still doesn't eat them much. I usually give him slices, which he has trouble picking up. I copied you, Carrie, the other night and gave him half a banana. He got a bite off of that but then didn't eat anymore, just played with it. The next morning I realized I'd given him the last banana and had nothing else for him to eat. lol.gif I went back to the slices because it was such a waste. I did give him a taste of acorn squash one night but he didn't like that at all. I think about potato but I'd only use a sweet potato and I never eat them anymore. I could buy one to have on hand but the last time I did that it just sat until it rotted on my pantry floor. Oh, I gave him a tiny bit of rice one night but he didn't eat that, either.

I thought about getting some of those teething biscuits or cookies but I'm with you. I don't like the ingredients. I don't want to just fill him up with bulk that not only has no nutrition but has unhealthy ingredients.

Oh, he bit me so bad yesterday that my left nipple still hurts. He didn't break the skin but OMG! IT HURT!

You know, not just when baby wants milk, but I also don't like another person keeping baby away from mom if baby wants mommy comfort. I mean, I'd like for Dylan to be comforted by and with Sean but I don't want it forced. When my dad was here, he'd walk around and around my house holding Dylan to try to calm him. It actually worked pretty well. Most times Dylan would fall asleep without fussing. But, if he continued to fuss, I'd take him back. I just don't see the point in refusing to give baby what he wants just for the principle.
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Finn literally ate half a banana this morning.  He demolished it.  You'd think I was starving him all this time or something, lol.  I handed him half and he worked it and chewed it and everything!  I was impressed!!

 

I have carrots, I might pick up a sweet potato and roast them so I have something to offer him with meals.  

I'm still making a point to make sure he was nursed right before.  He still goes to town on the bananas tho.  And he'd just had an entire boob when he nommed the pizza crust.

 

Finn did great last night with sleep but Nora woke him up twice.  That girl.  She knows to come in quietly and just climb in bed with me,  but still sometimes she yells out and I have to finagle myself out of the bed with Finn and get her.  It wakes him, since by then I've usually brought him into the bed with me.  I finally got him back to sleep, and settled nicely in the cosleeper, took a deep sigh and started to drift off... and she coughed really loud and he startled WIDE awake.  Ugh!  I had to start all over again!  

 

OMG biting!  That shit hurts!!  I agree!!

Nora bit me only once.  I'm glad we didn't have an issue with it, I'm not looking fwd to that happening with Finnley! 

 

 

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luckily, even though it's a struggle waiting for kellen to fall asleep, once he does he's out. Ethan's never any trouble. Ethan is the "good" child. I was talking to Ryan last night about him being good when Sean gets home and he said, "I"m not Ethan," with a grin. hehe

Dylan bit me because he was struggling with some gas and was bearing down on everything. He does that sometimes, not because he's trying to bite, but because he's straining.

I think I gave Ethan soybeans pretty early on. I don't know if that's a good idea. He may have been a year or more, though. I can't remember now. He got a lot of sweet potatoes. Sean mentioned peeled, mashed garpes but I don't want to do all thet. i do think we gave Ethan and Kellen peeled sliced grapes early on. Oh, i gave Dylan some grated pear last week. It wasn't very ripe and good, though, so he didn't eat it. I think just about ant fruit or veggie that isn't hard or fibrous, like celery, would be ok. You have to be careful about citrus fruits because of allergies. cooked carrots is a good one. You could probably give him beans as long as they are cooked enough. the more i write the more i remember. i gave dylan sone egg yolk, too. he didn't like that either. that's not an option for you, though. cooked peas, green beans?

ethan just walked in the house with a carolina anole in his hand!
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JJ ~ Can't you get butter already split? I leave mine out on the counter for weeks and have never had a problem. I know "they" say you are not supposed to do that but, like you said, it's the only way it can be used for spreading. If I were going to fry with it, I'd use a chunk out of the fridge.
Rice milk is probably the mildest tasting and texture of milk subs. I can't use coconut milk with my cereal because it's too thick, almost gooey. I just quit eating cereal. I don't drink milk otherwise, so that's not an issue.
I didn't read far enough in that blog to learn if the man had had surgery. Makes sense that he wouldn't make enough milk if he essentially had his breasts removed.
We had a great night last night! Although Dylan was up late because his nap schedule got all messed up, he slept for about 5 hours once he fell back to sleep! Then he nursed and slept for another 3, nursed and slept for another hour. He didn't get up until 10:30 or so. I'm a little nervous about how that's going to affect his schedule today. He usually takes his first nap around 11 and then wants another around 4 but that's not going to happen now. But I'll trade being kept up all night for staying up late and getting 5 hours of straight sleep. smile.gif

 

Hmmm probably? We buy it in 1lb blocks. I don't know if it's the air or temp in the house, but I find after about a week, I start feeling iffy about the butter. And we definitely don't go through a pound in a week. 

 

Carrie-- Good to know about the Parkay! I hadn't used any yet, because i generally try to use EVOO first if I can, but I wouldn't have even thought to check. I did, and wow- there's like 27% milk ingredients or something like that! I need to find our old stuff again :(

 

I'll try the rice milk. I never used to eat cereal, but I started eating pretty much a bowl a day the last few weeks because it's healthy and easy to eat when T is screaming at me. I just want really for cereal and to add to scrambled eggs, or mashed potatoes, stuff like that. 

 

And yes, he had most of the breast tissue removed, and then resculpted the rest so it would look more like a mans chest, but luckily they didn't have to interfere with any of the milk ducts- there's just a lack of tissue. 

 

What a great night!! It's soooo nice to get those long stretches, especially when you're not anticipating. I find I kind of wake up, and I'm like no... it can't have been that long! wow... and I get all smiley, and feel like I won the lottery. You had been talking about wanting to change his schedule, maybe if his morning nap is a bit later today it'll reset him a bit so you can play with his afternoon nap a bit as well. 

 

Tenley went to sleep at about 130 last night finally, and then woke up to eat at 4something, nursed on and off for an hour, and every time I tried to unlatch her she would freak out. She finally fell asleep, and the second I leaned over to put her in her bassinet, she woke up wide awake and shrieking again. Thankfully we managed to get her calmed sleeping in between us cuddled up to me, by a miracle, and she slept alright  off and on for the rest of the night. I find when I'm up that long in the middle of the night (it was like 2 hours when it was said and done), then it almost feels liek I didn't get that first stretch of sleep and I'm starting from scratch. 

 

Anyways, we're in bed now nursing, and I'm going to try to get a really good nap (for her and me!) in, so we can have a good day again. 
 

 

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you have to look very carefully at ingredients to make sure there isn't any milk or soy or gluten, depending on what you are trying to avoid. i looked at a package of soy cheese last night just to see. the second ingredient was casein, which is the cause of most milk sensitivities/allergies. lol.gif I buy 1 lb. of butter in 1/4 lb. sticks

i still can't get over the woman on the plane saying the baby needed a real boob! what does that even mean? a biological man (is that what you would say? it's hard to know because transgender people are born hormonally and chemically, which is part of the biology, the opposite gender of what they are physically.) can nurse a baby for comfort if really needed. a man can even produce small amounts of milk if stimulated enough.

Did he take male hormones while pregnant and/or now while breastfeeding? That seems like it would be counterproductive and maybe even dangerous.

Since you know him IRL, I'm asking this. Reading about his arms being exhausted from holding baby all the time, does he wear his baby? I'm assuming he must know about it if he's in the AP group. I probably am not supposed to be talking about this, so I'll stop now.

Dylan feel asleep around 1 pm, 2 hours later than usual, which makes perfect sense since he woke up 2 hours later. So, following his regular routine, he probably won't want to take his later nap until 6 or 7 pm. That's a problem today because I told Ethan we'd go to Outback for dinner to celebrate his basketball season. Maybe I should plan to go early. But then what if Dylan ends up needing a nap earlier and is either fussy at the restaurant or falls asleep for a short time in the car and then won't sleep when we get home? Ugh, it's so hard to figure things out sometimes.

Carrie ~ While I do think that people need to eat some animal flesh, I do get what you are saying about milk products. I don't think those are necessary for human consumption, ever. I think they are probably unhealthy. Butter not really because it's a saturated fat that's high in cholesterol but just because it's made from milk, which older people shouldn't consume. I'm pretty sure we are the only mammals on the planet that consume another mammals milk or consume any milk past infancy/young childhood. I talked a while back about having a cow for my own raw milk, but now if I had a cow it would be for the meat.
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Ethan is so funny. He has been implementing his Supernanny plan with Kellen. He has designated a "calm down" chair and tells Kellen if he doesn't listen, he gets one warning and then he has to sit in the chair for 3 minutes. But, the 3 minutes don't start until after Kellen calms down. The chair is in the room with us so he's not isolated. It's actually working quite well. Ethan has even had to sit in the chair a couple of times. lol.gif

I got him a locked diary for Valentine's Day. He's been pretending he's Indiana Jones. He got one of my purses and is using as a satchel over his shoulder to hold his book while he wanders around and takes notes about clues he finds for solving whatever puzzle he's solving. I think he said he was searching for an old castle.

That wasn't what I actually came her to post, though. I've been having stomach cramps for 3 or 4 days now and also very little appetite. Ethan started complaining that his stomach hurt yesterday. He said it's like cramps, not hunger or nausea. I'm hoping this is a very mild version of the stomach bug going around and it won't get any worse. How did it all happen for you guys? Did you get sick rather quickly or did you have stomach pain/cramps for a few days before the vomiting started? I want to know if I need to prepare myself for worse.
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Carrie: while I understand and actually agree with you on the corrupt animal industry thing, I don't think I would go totally vegan. Maybe because I love all my dairy and meat products too much. Why have a cow if you wouldn't drink the milk or eat the beef? Unless you just want a really big pet. (just curious, as honestly, I don't know why you would)

 

as for non dairy milks, I think DH really liked almond milk. I don't really drink milk myself; I do use it to cook with though.

 

for butter: mom got us one of these: http://www.alfille.co.uk/USA/index.php it's awesome. room temperature, spreadable butter.

 

I went to bed early last night and got to sleep in a little (7! ha!) but I'm still really tired and feeling a little emotional for some reason. ugh. Need.More.Sleep.

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Ethan is so funny. He has been implementing his Supernanny plan with Kellen. He has designated a "calm down" chair and tells Kellen if he doesn't listen, he gets one warning and then he has to sit in the chair for 3 minutes. But, the 3 minutes don't start until after Kellen calms down. The chair is in the room with us so he's not isolated. It's actually working quite well. Ethan has even had to sit in the chair a couple of times. lol.gif
I got him a locked diary for Valentine's Day. He's been pretending he's Indiana Jones. He got one of my purses and is using as a satchel over his shoulder to hold his book while he wanders around and takes notes about clues he finds for solving whatever puzzle he's solving. I think he said he was searching for an old castle.
That wasn't what I actually came her to post, though. I've been having stomach cramps for 3 or 4 days now and also very little appetite. Ethan started complaining that his stomach hurt yesterday. He said it's like cramps, not hunger or nausea. I'm hoping this is a very mild version of the stomach bug going around and it won't get any worse. How did it all happen for you guys? Did you get sick rather quickly or did you have stomach pain/cramps for a few days before the vomiting started? I want to know if I need to prepare myself for worse.


All of this made me smile so big!

Except the part about the tummy cramps.  I hope you guys aren't getting that bug.  For us...we felt off.  No appetite, no pain or anything.  But then once it hit, oooh.  Cramps, nausea, chills, aches and pains.  Awful.

 

If you have an inkling, go get BRAT stuff.  Ginger ale.  Gatorade.  Be prepared.  It's the worst.
 

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Carrie: while I understand and actually agree with you on the corrupt animal industry thing, I don't think I would go totally vegan. Maybe because I love all my dairy and meat products too much. Why have a cow if you wouldn't drink the milk or eat the beef? Unless you just want a really big pet. (just curious, as honestly, I don't know why you would)


Hahaha!  I wasn't implying I would get a cow, lol.  I was saying my big problem was with the industry.  But lets say that part is out of the equation -- as in, if I had a cow and treated it humanely, would I drink/use the milk?  -- I still don't think I agree w/taking the milk.  The meat absolutely not.  I could not kill an animal.  Every animal, IMO, has the right not to be killed.

Lots of my friends have chickens for their eggs.  I can *kind of* get my head around that, b/c if the egg isn't being fertilized, they lay them anyway.  There's an ick factor to them but I could get past that.

I would have trouble tho with the idea of keeping them.  Idk.  I don't put much thought into it b/c there are just too many issues rattling around in my brain in regards to animal rights vs human convenience.  It's far easier for me to boycott the whole industry than to nitpick technicalities.

 

Speaking of Supernanny...I was watching Nanny 911 the other day and I wasn't entertained.  I was horrified.  Idk how people can watch that show and not feel a little ill at how those kids act.  I mean, i"m not saying my kid(s) are perfect, far from it...but how do those families get that way?  How do things get so dire??  I mean, what the heck, people?

 

 

 

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Carrie: re: supernanny, etc, I don't know! Gabe is a bit of a handful sometimes, but never that bad. I don't always agree with the methods used, but it's way better than what the parents are doing , which is usually nothing. 

 

Homegrown chicken eggs are awesome!

 

I am not really a hunter, but I do think if you hunt, you should eat it. Hunting for pure sport is ridiculous.

 

Iam reading the happiest toddler on the block. So far the part that makes the mist sense is that kids are meant to be outside. DS is happiest outside.

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