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Sparkle, this one I can speak to. I started playing the violin at age 4 and had private lessons, as well as in-school Orchestra (as of 4th grade when it became available) through high school. I have not played in any organized way since before having kids (when we were living in Boston just after we got married I played in a chamber music group). 


I never did Suzuki, it was always classical violin training.


I hated, hated, hated practicing. It was terrible and I was not allowed to do anything else until I had practiced. Now granted, my parents went overboard and made me practice an hour a day. Once I hit middle and high school though when I had lessons at home once a week plus in-school orchestra and lessons, that eased up.


But, I LOVED being able to play well, loved the orchestra experience, etc. It's a conundrum and very common as far as I can see.


Does she really *get* the relationship of practice to improvement? I'm sure she understands it with climbing. Sometimes with music it can be harder. What I started doing was mentally making every piece into a story in my head, and 'talking' through the music. It sounds silly but it worked for me. When my mom was listening, it was good and fine. When my dad was listening (on practices) it was awful because he was so critical. It can be very isolating, for sure. Are there any other kids who also play nearby who'd get together once a week to practice? Then the other two times aren't so rough.


If she loves music camp, and she generally loves playing but the practicing is hard, I'd say keep at it and let her go at her own pace. She may not progress as quickly without the practicing but if she is getting lessons and playing regularly, she'll at least make small steps. 


The other thing that helped me a lot was having the piece I was playing, played on the stereo (dating myself!) while I practiced it. Then I could hear it. I would play with the music, then I would stop laying and listen, then I would play alone, then I would play with the music again. Makes it go faster and it's easier to hear what it should sound like with the other instrumentation. 


Just some thoughts, hope it helps.


Now I can use some advice. Ds is enrolled right now in indoor soccer skills practice. He asked to be enrolled, it's through the town, and totally low key and 'fun' (no yelling, no mean coaching, etc.). He claims not to 'like' it although he seems to have a great time while he's there. He needs the activity, and he says he wants to play soccer, but the truth is I think he doesn't so much like the team competitive sports thing. So my question is, do I keep taking him; do I sign him up for little league (which he says he wants to do but never has before, although he loves playing baseball in the yard with buddies), or what? And if not, what do I do with him? He definitely needs an organized athletic activity, more than just running around screaming in the yard. eyesroll.gif The result of that is he eventually tackles his friends or sisters and pisses everyone off. When he's doing a regular sport activity he still runs around screaming in the yard most afternoons but doesn't seem quite as inclined to mischief. help.gif

post #202 of 489

Sparkle, we have a similar situation with DD2 who just turned 10 and her piano playing. She loves her teacher, loves the class, doesn't want to stop, but she simply can not remember to practice on her own. We also shoot for 4 or 5 practices, but I would be fine with 3 if she could just remember to do it. I have tried many things to avoid just telling her to do it, but none of them have really worked.


Just five minutes ago, I had a conversation with her that went something like this:

me "hey, do you have anything else that you need to get done today after you finish the valentines project?"

her "nope! No homework, it's Sunday."

me "are you sure? Do you think you should check your list?"

her "nope, I'm sure!"

me "really? Is there nothing?" (at this point, it had become obvious to her that there IS something and I just don't want to say the word)

her "no... Oh yeah! Piano!"


So basically, I am just back to telling her to do it. eyesroll.gif


I think the camp sounds wonderful. We don't have anything like that, no community at all. So I think that is a big plus that she likes that. Who knows, maybe it will click one year and the kids will want to do it on their own. If it doesn't, I still hope to have gotten enough years in so that she could come back to music at some point later in life and have that groundwork there.


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Thanks ladies. For a couple reasons, she has had 3 teachers in these years, and all three told me that they didnt start to motivate themselves until they were 13 (all three said the same age, independent of each other), when they could see that they could start playing their own kind of music (pop?). That's what Im shooting for... but that's 4 more years of pulling teeth lol.gif

I am actually about to start playing myself. I hope this will help. I want to play, and have a violin that Dh got me 3-4 years ago, so now its time to put my money where my mouth is, especially as DD1 said, in response to me prodding her to practice b/c I love hearing her play, "well if you love hearing violin so much, why dont YOU play" bag.giflol.gif

Nic - I have the same problem w/ DS (7). He is VERY athletic, and complains about not having a sport to do, but everything we sign him up for, he then complains about. He does soccer, but Dh is the coach, as this was one way we saw to prevent complaining. He says he wants to climb, but I dont believe that he will want to once on the team, etc. What to do indeed. I would say, just keep trying redface.gif It sucks, b/c all the effort comes from you, but maybe there is something he will find in the process. Also, pay attention to his natural inclinations; is he a team sport type, or more individual. Would he prefer something like swimming, karate, boxing bag.gif, Gymnastics!? DS LOVES biking; mtn, road, whatever, but there are no teams for that. Dh takes him out regularly and we are signing him up for some races this year, but nothing really starts for kids and biking until age 10+

NRR: ok, ladies, I feel so much better today that I practically wanted to shout it out to everyone at the grocery store. Im back joy.gif Thank g-d!!
Edited by sparkletruck - 2/12/12 at 11:31am
post #204 of 489

Glad you're better, Sparkle!


I will pay attention to that individual vs. team thing, thanks. Does not help that dh signed him up for wrestling thinking he could use the intense activity (which he can) but although he does well while he's there and seems to like it, he hates going. Sigh. Thankfully that season is nearly over.


Swimming...he swims, but it hasn't 'clicked' yet. Also all the swim teams around here are a HUGE commitment for the parents and I'm just not there bag.gif to start at age 6 being required to be at 4, 2 hour practices a WEEK plus meets. Ugh. He really wants to do some kind of martial art, which we will do as soon as we find one we can afford to keep up with (they charge a fortune!). And it seems like around here people start their kids on one main sport very early and foster major competitive edges. Ugh. Not my thing. I'd love for the kids to do the town track program but it only meets on Saturdays...and that won't work for us.




I'll figure it out.


My husband bought the kids a Wii for Chanukah. He is now addicted to it. eyesroll.gif It is extremely annoying, and the kids fight the more they play it. Last week we had a Wii free week because the privilege was taken away, as they were being extremely unkind to each other. I loved the Wii-free week. I am not a Wii fan. (except the dance party. that's pretty fun)

post #205 of 489

random unrelated thoughts:

a. Geofizz: I bought milk in a paper carton this week because my store was out of the glass bottles and it said on the side it (milk from grass fed cows) contains Omega 3. Maybe there are places where your diet doesn't have to change much, but if you bought the more "natural" version you'd find these omega 3? 


b. violin:  around here there are solo suzuki lessons and once you hit age 5 you go 1 x a week to a group lesson. Is she the kind of kid who wants to do it but needs to be with others? Can you start a group lesson? (this is why we aren't music lesson material).


c. Nic: your boy should run with you. Like build up to 2 miles or something.  Also: Erin really enjoys playing soccer, but hates going and hates leaving. That has everything to do with a transition and nothing to do with the actual activity. It depends on when you ask her whether or not she'll respond that she likes it.



post #206 of 489

I grew up a Suzuki violin kid, way back when. I often disliked practicing, but like sparkle described, I too loved what it eventually enabled me to do. And like kerc suggested, I loved the connection with other string players, the orchestras, group classes, chamber ensembles and quartets I played in. When I became a parent in a small remote village I realized that if I wanted my kids to have the opportunity for that sort of experience, I was going to have to create it. And one thing I knew for sure by then was that I did want that for my kids. As an adult I realized what violin had given me. So I went and got myself some Suzuki teacher training and started teaching, creating a cadre of young string students here in our little town in which my own kids could grow up. 


The most valuable thing violin has given my kids is the experience of working consistently over the long term despite the bumps and drudgery to achieve excellence. In our fast-paced age of instant gratification, patience and the ability to defer gratification are in short supply. My kids get it, though. While many things come easily to them, violin always meets them at their level and offers them new challenges, new ways to learn to work hard, to problem-solve, to keep at it, to gradually progress through repertoire and towards higher, more refined levels of ability. It's taught them to appreciate the value of the early stages of learning, of attention to detail, of persistence.


These are life lessons I am more than willing to put my energy into! There have been times when I've spent immense amounts of emotional energy, time and creativity keeping this music thing going for my kids. But they're not just learning to play the violin: they're learning values and skills they'll need to succeed in life.  I remind myself of that when I start second-guessing myself and worrying that I'm too invested in their music. It doesn't have to be music which is the venue to teach kids these things -- martial arts or ballet or swimming might work just as well for some kids -- but in our family music is something my kids on balance want to do, it's something I'm able to support easily, and so for us it makes sense for them to learn all these life skills in the musical arena. 


Years ago I wrote this blog post listing reasons why it's worth supporting my kids' music educations. It was therapeutic for me to write it, and to return to it over the years and remind myself. Maybe it will help you too.


RR: Managed 30k this morning. Planned 22-25, but needed a place to pee, so I ran the extra 3k out and back at the midway point. Longest run since last July. A few twinges in one knee, but otherwise felt okay.



post #207 of 489

Interesting about the music discussions.  I grew up with piano lessons (I started in 5th grade, I think, and went through Jr. year of high school).  For some reason, practice was almost universally excruciating.  I loved finishing a piece of music, loved the sound, loved the expression and everything about it, but it was like pulling teeth to get me to practice.  I regret that now, as an adult, because I think I could have been so much better!  Katie is in 5th grade, and has been in band this year.  She's been learning the flute.  She practices about 5 times a week for 30 minutes, plus 2 days of band practice, plus a small group lesson with other flutes, and a private (extra) lesson that the band teacher requested.  It has been slow going for her, but she has really seemed to enjoy it.  Even though, I do need to remind her to practice, she rarely fights me on it.  When she does, we just break it up into shorter sessions (2 15 minute sessions), or go online for note reading practice.  I think the 3 times a week of being with a group has greatly increased her interest level, plus lighting a fire under (she doesn't want to be the only one not able to do something).  I check in with her pretty frequently to see how she likes everything, how she's feeling, etc.  She is always positive, and has said that she wants private lessons over the summer and wants to do jr. high band.  Given her personality, I don't think I would see this kind of enthusiasm if she wasn't truly into it.  But, she does still need me to organize her time (this is something we are working on).


Sports - I was going to also suggest swimming.  But, that is a HUGE time commitment.  Our local swim club has a similar commitment, and it is also really expensive (which is why we aren't doing it!).  I agree to take him running with you!  Or, you can take him on his bike while you run beside him.  Another idea is dance class.  There can be a huge physical component in it, as well as the artful expression.  Also, boys are greatly coveted in dance classes! 


I have been such a total dongo lately!  I have had the opportunity to run, but just not the gumption.  I'm sure I will get to it soon!  Really, I will.  I promise!  I work all night tonight, then have tomorrow off, and then Tuesday a 6am-9am shift!  After that, I am taking my mom downtown for her birthday.  I have been pretty distant from my parents since the whole bruhaha with my brother around Thanksgiving.  It's the only way I can seem to protect myself.  They will always take his side, will continue to let him freeload off of them, and criticize me, so I have taken steps to not allow myself into their codependence.  It has been good, overall. 

post #208 of 489
Nic--I think I'm going to look into that book. It sounds good to this introvert. No advice on sports though. Maybe he could take a martial arts class instead?

Also, I'm with Nic on not wanting to move to Canada because it's cold.

kerc--yay for skiing!

JayGee--good luck with the Whole 30. I've noticed a couple of pounds creeping on and know I need to something, but I'm not ready to be that hard core yet. Kudos to you!

sparkle--yep, kids fight practicing. I'm pretty sure they all do, no matter what. I remember resisting practicing piano. Somehow I ended up a piano major (and now a musicologist) despite that. R has been playing violin for 3 years and she fights it too. Her basic line is that she loves to play, she just hates to practice. She practices 5x a week (usually with me breathing down her neck, Tiger Mom style. orngtongue.gif That sounds worse than it is, but it does prevent her from learning a mistake while I'm not paying attention and then having to relearn a passage).

That said, I think any kind of orchestra experience is really helpful. R is in orchestra twice a week and loves it. They're playing for some sort of concert with a bunch of other strings groups twice this spring and that always fires her up. Maybe there's some sort of youth orchestra in the area. And honestly, even though even as I write this she's telling me she doesn't want to practice right now banghead.gif she was soooooo excited on Tuesday when she got the short-arm cast so she could start playing violin again.

Keep slogging along. The magical time when children become self-motivated to practice won't start until around high school. I think that's when I didn't make my mom tell me to do it anymore. In any case, I didn't really feel motivated until junior year when I realized I wanted to be a music major and there could be a scholarship involved. :oops That said, anyy time people have to practice a skill every day, it takes a lot of self-motivation. Look how much it takes us to put on our shoes and run, even though we know how great it feels afterward.

I just asked R and she said "Just keep making her practice. It's the same way with me, I don't like to practice either."

BTW, I love Suzuki, especially the part where you listen to the music every day. Our music teacher uses that principle for everything--the upcoming 1st grade program, the choir music, etc, and it makes such a difference. We just put it on in the car or in the background, and we all end up singing the songs by the end. Another thing that might help for violin (or not), is singing the pitches of the notes before trying them on the instrument. That's how we spent our last month because R couldn't actually play the instrument. I like to think of it as putting all those sight-singing technique I was forced to use as undergrads to use. wink1.gif

RR: Survived the half marathon this morning and didn't die of hypothermia afterward. cold.gif It was 15 degrees out when we started. I'll write the full report tonight. Brief report is that it was cold, overcast for the second half of the race, and about 25 degrees when I finished (2:00:43). I hung out just long enough to grab food and then started getting cold and headed straight back to the car.
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Real, terrific race in the cold!!!


On Canada: West coast. Vancouver Island is not cold. I'm technically on "northern vancouver island" (really only about half-way up, but the northern part population-wise), which is colder than the south end. Victoria and Vancouver are quite temperate. You just need the temperament to deal with rain and cloud for three seasons. I've lived my whole life in coastal BC other than one winter in the interior of BC and two years in Oregon and actually really like the rain, but I've seen it make people totally insane.


On music practice: I play piano, but started "late" at around 11, and really didn't have the experience of dreading practice. But my mum was very laissez-faire about my music lessons- I had wanted to take them for a long time and she rarely asked me or told me to practice. I didn't have to log times for We also had a music studio that was a separate building from our house, so there was never anyone breathing down my neck to practice. I disliked band practice (trombone) in junior and high school more, and there I was required to record and be accountable for my practice minutes. So something about intrinsic/extrinsic rewards and motivation rings true for me. I also did annual piano exams, regular recitals and group lessons, so there were external motivations for practice in piano that kept my inner perfectionist practicing.


My 6 year old plays violin/fiddle- she wanted to play fiddle but the local teachers prefer to start kids with Suzuki and "throw in" fiddle songs. She follows the Suzuki book and has monthly group lessons, but it's not pure Suzuki. Often the nagging/reminders to *start* a practice are not fun, but once she has the violin in hand she usually enjoys it. We hit a rut of not enjoying lessons or practice briefly this fall that was cured by learning a couple of new fiddle tunes. That's what she really enjoys most, but she's able to see the link between the progression of skills in the Suzuki songs and the abilities that are transferred to the more complicated fiddle songs. Other practice strategies that she has used are various cards/dice that dictate what/how many times she'll practice various songs or sections of them, playing with my accompanying on piano, or just spending time "jamming" and having fun. I wish that I could make the violin more accessible with a stand in the living room, but after a couple of repairs from toddler instrument abuse we keep it in the case on a high shelf where she can't get it without help. When the piano case is open she often wanders by and plays for a bit and it may be wishful thinking that she would just pick up the violin if it was sitting there. I can dream, though...


Miranda, I love your blog post! Congrats on the (extra) long run.


sparkle joy.gifhooray for health! I hope I'm following on your heels.


NRR- Another dongo here. Finally on day five my youngest daughter's fever broke. She's still worn down and a bit dehydrated, but we made it through the worst. The oldest will go to school tomorrow, and I will run this week. Seriously, the full week of sick kids as a solo parent has sucked so much. I could handle the daytimes, but the hourly wakeups and using mama as a body pillow all night long is not


RR- The localish trail running series has been announced for the year. The May race is a 12.5km short course and a half, June is 9k short and 16k long, July is the 6k up the ski hill. I'm planning the 12.5 in May, maybe the 16 in June (it's the farthest away, so more tentative) and the July race. September is the 11k in my local forest. All of this seems in keeping with my New Year's resolution to love my hip, run for pleasure and not to get over-competitive and injured again. It helps me restrain myself from signing up for the half when I'm not really in the shape for it and don't have the time for adequate mileage. I'm happy to have enough options for trail races to keep me motivated to run without hurting myself on the road again.


In other cool running news, there is a local study being done on minimalist vs. traditional running shoes. I'm not doing it because there's a commitment to a weekly running clinic that I can't make, but I've been encouraging friends to try it out! It's for all levels of runners, but I think more geared to beginners. They're researching injuries and possibly speed over 12 weeks.

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Originally Posted by 1jooj View Post

NRR: Dinner at the boss's tonight. How to prep the kids to not have one of those granola-bar commercial moments?! Wish me luck! I can just see "Mom really hates it here," or "We might not come back next year" or some such not-appropriate-for-the-occasion stuff coming out. horrors.gif


lol.gif I hope nothing came out that shouldn't, but I feel your pain if it did.  I recently sat next to Alison's preschool teacher at a banquet and heard about all the things that have been spilled at school.  Oy!  So glad I've managed to retain some privacy while dealing with the diva cup!


Originally Posted by sparkletruck View Post

I read once that an introvert is enervated by spending time in a crowd and an extrovert is energized nod.gif

Hmm, that makes me think i might be an extrovert, but it doesn't feel right.  Maybe the kind of crowd makes a difference?

Originally Posted by Nickarolaberry View Post
 The result of that is he eventually tackles his friends or sisters and pisses everyone off. When he's doing a regular sport activity he still runs around screaming in the yard most afternoons but doesn't seem quite as inclined to mischief. help.gif

Another vote for martial arts or boxing.  Boxing is great exercise and I would think be helpful reducing the extra energy for making mischief.  Martial arts adds an extra dose of discipline.  Both are less competitive in that team sport way and more in the can-I-beat-my-previous-score/remember-to-block-my-face way.  But you knew I'd say that!


Shanti - It seems very unjust.  Wish we could knock some sense into him.


So much happening in Dingoland!  I don't have time to reply to all but I'm fascinated at the discussions.  Was just talking with a mom at dd1's swim meet yesterday about how to find the right balance between pushing them to do something they really don't want vs. keeping them involved in something they'll be grateful for later.  No answers here. 


No RR today.  I'm so impressed with the high mileage and cold weather racing happening!  Woot woot!  You mamas know who you are!



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These next few hours are going to be tough. dd1 has been off school for most of the last two weeks and she has to go back tomorrow. She was well enough to work yesterday and it is time. The trouble is that this child is and always has been a night owl. I had a terrible time getting her out of bed yesterday and she didn't fully rouse her 14 year old self until after noon. Then she stalled on doing the homework she has had all along (and has had plenty of support to do) and panicked later afternoon and into the evening about getting it done. Then she wanted to 'relax' after all that work and when I woke up 15 minutes ago she was still awake, reading and listening to her ipod. She needs to get up for the day in a little over three hours. I have made it clear that staying home or going in late are not options and she knows that - but I think we are in for a very difficult morning. Keeping day and night straight were hard for her as a baby and I have always had to work hard at bedtime and good sleep habits with her. Now that she is a teen it is difficult and being sick has made it just about impossible. I really hope she can figure it out and pull it together for herself. 


dd2 is slowly doing better. Her fever still comes and goes and she is very uncomfortable with her pox but it is no longer a challenge to get from one dose of medicine to the next. Friends of ours brought us dinner last night and that was a bigger relief and support to me than I can say. I am so tired. Have I mentioned that my dh has restless leg syndrome and is a champion snorer? He takes meds for the restlessness but it is no miracle drug. I am a very light sleeper and it is a bad combination. Almost every night I wind up sleeping in the living room for part of the night just so I can get some sleep.


I didn't start studying music until high school but I loved practising. It was my way of escaping other things going on at home and I loved the challenge of it. I still love to practise.I rarely practise pieces I will be performing - I sit there and happily play scales of all kinds and thee blind mice or other simple melodies in every key and every octave (I play flute and piccolo) - and reap the benefits when I go to rehearsals or do want to pull out beautiful or complex pieces. I think today's kids (for instruments other than the piano anyway) have a wonderful opportunity that I didn't have. You can buy all kinds of books with accompaniment CD's so you can play along and have more than just your own sound in the room. I found CD roms with scores to some of my favourite composers and so I have the music to play along with just about any symphony I want to, when I have the time and the need to make beautiful music. Getting my own kids to practise is a mixed bag. I find that getting and keeping them in situations where they love playing helps them to stay motivated. If they aren't having fun or being challenged it is impossible. We have a couple of great music day camps in our area and that is always a highlight of our year musically.


RR - I have absolutely no intention of trying to run in the next few days. How's that for honesty! I will walk the dog (she has short little legs so that isn't saying much) and when dd2 starts to feel a little better she and I will go for walks together. Other than that I intend to lay low, keep the house running, try to get a little work done, and do my best to keep this virus that is nagging at me as far away as possible.

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Shanti ~ oh dear.... I hope and pray this morning went smoothly for your DD.  That's got to be frustrating for you.  I am glad she's feeling well enough to head back to school though.


RE: music ~ DS and DD1 take piano lessons.  DS plays throughout the day, a little here and a little there, but it's still a struggle to get him to sit down for a concentrated period of time to WORK on a piece or his scales.  He prefers the "drive-by" method of piano practicing lol.gif.  DD1 needs to be reminded, and I need to sit with her or she'll get frustrated and give up.  BUT, if I'm sitting there I can't give any direction or she gets mad at me and stomps off eyesroll.gif.  Both profess to enjoy piano though, and don't want to stop lessons.  It helps that I think DS has a crush on his teacher (22 yo college grad...) winky.gif.  DS also plans to start saxophone next year when lessons through school begin and band starts too.  I played piano from age 6 to 12 and then flute from age 12-18.  Unfortunately, I suck at both still!  DH is very musically inclined though (violin and cello through high school).  He says he hated practicing, but loved orchestra and performance.  I personally remember sitting at the piano with that &$%^ egg timer my Mom set for 30 minutes and feeling tortured every single second of it!


Nic ~ DS loves soccer, but it took a lot of time, patience, and a couple of seasons "off" for him to get there.  I've discovered, in the years he's been playing that kids don't really "get" the team aspect of it until they're about 8 or so.  I think the push to get kids started at younger and younger ages is a mistake.  They don't seem to be able to do more than swarm the ball developmentally speaking until they are a lot older.  Just this year, at age 10, DS is understanding passing, field positioning, and team play.  I think your son would do well with something like martial arts or maybe boys' gymnastics.  My DS loved taking boys gymnastics at that age and it gave him a total body awareness and overall conditioning that is serving him well now on the soccer field.  The boy knocks out 20 regulation push-ups every single morning before school, no problemo.


RR ~ heading out for a walk in the snow shortly jog.gif.  Yay!  Snow!  Finally!


NRR ~ Day 1 of Whole30 down and I already feel a ton better that I did just 2 days ago.  More energy, more motivation, much less gas bag.gif.  Tons to do today, so I'd better get going!



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Nic - I meant to add that if you have a gymnastics studio in your area, they likely have group rec classes. Here there are rec classes for boys and girls (separated) several times a week. If the kid shows promise, this is one place they are recruited for the various teams. DS is really into parkour right now eyesroll.gif, so I am thinking of getting him into gymnastics just for the jumping and tumbling, but it is NOT a team, it is once per week for an hour... maybe that's an option?
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She made it out the door and onto the bus with no tears from either of us. I think that might only be because we were both too tired for that kind of energy expenditure but she made it. I got the teenage-look-of-death as she walked through the door but she walked through it.

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Dd started piano last summer, and I do remind her to practice, but she doesn't seem to mind.  I do end up sitting with her until she gets the music and then she practices until it's smooth.  Her biggest struggle is the "beat" of the music.  It's hard for her to keep correct time.  


Shanti that just sounds rough...I feel for your teen dd.  And you, having to deal with your teen dd :)


My dd is in her loft doing her math pages.  This seems to work for us. When she's at the table it's non-stop moaning and groaning. Not to mention ds may possibly be the loudest human being in the universe.  So this helps her have quiet to do her work, removes the audience for groaning, and seems to speed up her work.  I hope it works because right now I hate math homework.


I'm too tired for it to be Monday.

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music - four of my children play piano. Practice used to be harder. Ds1 is actually skilled and enjoys playing even more so now that he is in an ensemble with peers that enjoy music. The others enjoy listening to him and find it motivating. Another change is that we did not move our piano and have replced it with a very nice electronic piano. It sounds so much better and has a volume knob! The younger girls both cn be energized by a new piece but if they are confused or unsure about something practice will be painful. It used to be that we didn;t practice on lesson days as so much time was already taken up by the lesson but now I find if they play their pieces right when we get home we dont have as many of the struggles due to confusion about the music.

shanti, :hugs to both of you! 13 yo dd is much the same with regards to sleep and homework completion. She often practices her voice pieces well into the night when she cannot sleep. She is currently preparing "People Will Say We Are in Love" from Oklahoma! for an audition.

sports I concur with the idea of a personal sport where one works toward self improvement rather than beating the competition. Gymnastics and martial arts have served us well in the past as have running sports and very recreational team sports.

overshares: I once heard a teacher say to parent, "I won't believe enerything I am told if you will do me the same favor." I might rather she promise not to listen so closely or not try to figure out what was actually going on. Sometimes a child's perspective is rather amusing. winky.gif I hope you evening went well jo.

There is something so refreshing about a bit of cloud cover.
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Originally Posted by JayGee View Post
I personally remember sitting at the piano with that &$%^ egg timer my Mom set for 30 minutes and feeling tortured every single second of it!

Sheepish.gif  egg-timer? What egg-timer? (I've been known to employ that method myself.)

Originally Posted by Shantimama View Post

She made it out the door and onto the bus with no tears from either of us. I think that might only be because we were both too tired for that kind of energy expenditure but she made it. I got the teenage-look-of-death as she walked through the door but she walked through it.

Glad it went off without too much of a hitch. I hope you have some peace and quiet today and are feeling better (more rested) soon. I had to laugh at the teenage-look-of-death. I know it well.



Originally Posted by mommajb View Post
It used to be that we didn;t practice on lesson days as so much time was already taken up by the lesson but now I find if they play their pieces right when we get home we dont have as many of the struggles due to confusion about the music.

Now, that's a really good idea! I hate that our music lessons are on the same day as soccer - it is such a long and tiring day. I would love to be able to come home and listen to her play something she has just learned. DD would love that, too.


Edited by Mel38 - 2/13/12 at 2:52pm
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Crap you guys, I am fixating on getting another dog. This is perhaps a step in the right direction from where I was two months ago, fixating on foster-parenting bag.gif Dog #2 has been a "plan" if not a plan since we got dog #1, but now I find myself on petfinder, and um, found two, ok, three dogs I want. But one in particular...

talk me down....or dont winky.gif

On the "no house is perfect" front: one just came on the market, totally our style, the size, exposure, neighborhood, etc we want, for only half a mil!! disappointed.gif

Shanti - goodvibes.gifgoodvibes.gifgoodvibes.gif I am thinking of you and wishing you all the positive, healthy energized energy I can muster
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BBM, maybe a metronome? Those work wonders for keeping time.


He does want to do a martial art, so we'll see. I asked him yesterday about this whole thing and he said, "I really want to do it before you sign me up and then it's boring and hard and the kids are rude."


So where that leaves us I could not tell you. I do not really want to waste money again on something he isn't going to like, so I'm not sure about spring baseball or anything else at the moment. We shall see.


Feeling very down in the dumps today. Dh, education, money related. Sigh. And also trying to detox from sugar and diet coke and I already fell off the sugar wagon in a big way today.

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Skimmed to get caught up, and here I am.  Sorry if I missed anything too important, but if I don't just jump right back in here I won't do it and I'll regret it til March 1 when I start over.


Geo ~ Are you looking for ways to get more omega 3's?  Grass-fed and free-range beef/poultry!  Our omega 3 and omega 6 ratios are off kilter because we eat a lot of cornfed beef/poultry and essentially the animals aren't eating what they are supposed to and we lack that way too.  We usually order our meat online through Wellness Meats (although right now we are working through venison).  It's expensive, but it's important to us to eat ethically raised animals that eat the way they should so our bodies can benefit fully from them.

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