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how do you calm an overstimulated 2.5 year old?

post #1 of 10
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Especially in places like a mall play area, his grandparents house, and shopping places like Target or the market?

 

 

 

Sometimes I know why he goes crazy, but sometimes that craziness needs to immediately stop.  Like, I don't mind regular running and playing around in the house, but when he starts running INTO his younger brother, and every effort of mine seems to make him run away, run faster, laugh harder, how do I get him to calm down? Or at least, what disciplinary action should I take? My dh tried a time out, which I thought was hilarious because of his age, and I swear my ds had no idea why he was in his room, he just continued to play in there lol.  I try to make him stay by me when he goes overboard crazy, but I am not entirely sure what I'm doing, so I don't try to hard to keep him by me. 

 

Then at places like the mall play area, when I cannot get him to slow down, what do I do? Leave? Make him sit next to me? Sometimes he can go so fast, I think he can't even hear me. 

 

Suggestions please?

post #2 of 10

You could try 'Valarian Super Calm' by 'Herbs for Kids'.

It takes about 10 minutes but then really works. You could also try chamomile tea. Cold, in a sippy cup.

 

post #3 of 10
What is his favorite thing? DS loves books more than anything in the world. If he's out of control, we sit down with a book, and he quickly settles down (though sometimes we need to read for a loooong time, depending how riled up & overstimulated he is!!)

Anything can work -- a small toy he loves that requires focused attention, playing a song or video on your phone (DS loves watching videos of himself, that's another thing that works well!), some kind of word game like the Name Game song or a physical game like Pat-a-Cake... You might have to experiment to find what works best in different situations. Sometimes all DS needs is food, and unfortunately I don't always remember to keep snacks on hand, but if you can keep a favorite snack in your bag, maybe that will do the trick? (I think of this more as avoiding blood sugar lows, not manipulating or rewarding behavior with food, I think toddlers just need to eat very frequently...) Calm's Forte (homeopathic) or Rescue Remedy work well for us, too, when nothing else works.

And yes, if he's out of control and the above doesn't work, I would just leave the mall. I don't see how you could make him sit next to you or listen to you if he's running wild, so I'd just make a beeline for the car, carrying him if necessary. It doesn't matter if leaving is a reward or punishment to him, I don't think, but I'm guessing if he doesn't like shopping he'll see it more as a reward to leave, so that's something to be aware of & maybe in that situation, say something like, "We're all done, let's go!" rather than tying his behavior to your rushed departure. If he likes shopping, it will be easier... DS knows he needs to listen & stay close to me if he wants to shop with me, and it only took leaving once or twice for him to really understand I'm serious.

It sounds like you know he is overstimulated (vs. deliberately defying you or something?) and I think it would be wise to try to avoid thinking in terms of 'discipline' (punishment) for that. That would kind of be like punishing a kid for being sad or hurt or angry, IMO. There can be consequences (leaving the store) if necessary, but I'd try to focus on how you can help him calm himself & even better, not get so overstimulated in the first place. Maybe he needs a snack or maybe more time to run around or more quiet time or maybe even headphones or sunglasses to filter out excess noise or visual stimulation. DS is much calmer when he has his sunglasses on. He also does well when I look him straight in the eye (as we are getting out of the car & heading inside) and explain exactly what I expect of him. "We are going in the store now. You need to hold my hand in the parking lot, stay near me in the store, and listen to me," or, "We're going to A's house, and B, C, & D will be there. You are going to share toys, play with the other kids, and come get me if you're having trouble with anything."
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What is his favorite thing? DS loves books more than anything in the world. If he's out of control, we sit down with a book, and he quickly settles down (though sometimes we need to read for a loooong time, depending how riled up & overstimulated he is!!)
Anything can work -- a small toy he loves that requires focused attention, playing a song or video on your phone (DS loves watching videos of himself, that's another thing that works well!), some kind of word game like the Name Game song or a physical game like Pat-a-Cake... You might have to experiment to find what works best in different situations. Sometimes all DS needs is food, and unfortunately I don't always remember to keep snacks on hand, but if you can keep a favorite snack in your bag, maybe that will do the trick? (I think of this more as avoiding blood sugar lows, not manipulating or rewarding behavior with food, I think toddlers just need to eat very frequently...) Calm's Forte (homeopathic) or Rescue Remedy work well for us, too, when nothing else works.
And yes, if he's out of control and the above doesn't work, I would just leave the mall. I don't see how you could make him sit next to you or listen to you if he's running wild, so I'd just make a beeline for the car, carrying him if necessary. It doesn't matter if leaving is a reward or punishment to him, I don't think, but I'm guessing if he doesn't like shopping he'll see it more as a reward to leave, so that's something to be aware of & maybe in that situation, say something like, "We're all done, let's go!" rather than tying his behavior to your rushed departure. If he likes shopping, it will be easier... DS knows he needs to listen & stay close to me if he wants to shop with me, and it only took leaving once or twice for him to really understand I'm serious.
It sounds like you know he is overstimulated (vs. deliberately defying you or something?) and I think it would be wise to try to avoid thinking in terms of 'discipline' (punishment) for that. That would kind of be like punishing a kid for being sad or hurt or angry, IMO. There can be consequences (leaving the store) if necessary, but I'd try to focus on how you can help him calm himself & even better, not get so overstimulated in the first place. Maybe he needs a snack or maybe more time to run around or more quiet time or maybe even headphones or sunglasses to filter out excess noise or visual stimulation. DS is much calmer when he has his sunglasses on. He also does well when I look him straight in the eye (as we are getting out of the car & heading inside) and explain exactly what I expect of him. "We are going in the store now. You need to hold my hand in the parking lot, stay near me in the store, and listen to me," or, "We're going to A's house, and B, C, & D will be there. You are going to share toys, play with the other kids, and come get me if you're having trouble with anything."


Yeah I wasn't really thinking in terms of "punishing" him, that was more my dh trying to get some control of the situation.  He usually goes along with my AP style of parenting until I don't know what to do, and then he falls into what he knows (very mainstream stuff) and usually it doesn't work, but sometimes he needs to do it his own way. 

 

I think I am going to try the book idea first, ds loves books! Maybe I will carry one with me/keep some in all rooms at all times to see how that works.  


And yeah, I kinda figured I was just going to have to leave wherever we are when he gets over stimulated, I was just hoping for another option since I hate having to make ds2 leave as well, especially when he is playing/behaving just fine. (And by that I mean when we are at a play area or park.  I don't think ds2 minds leaving a store.)

 

post #5 of 10

I like the book idea.  You could also try bringing a blanket or something, and when he's out of control, find a corner and have him sit on your lap, and put the blanket over top of both your heads like a tent.  This can cut out a lot of the outside stimulation and help him calm himself.  Then do something like tell a story, do little finger games, or even look at a book together in your 'tent.'  It may look strange from the outside, but it might help him calm himself.

post #6 of 10

My daughter is younger (23 months), but the time-out actually works really well for her.  And she seems like she likes it.  I don't see it as a discipline tactic, but as an actual time out, where she takes a break for a minute to reset herself.  We babysit her baby cousin on Fridays, and between her LOVING her cousin so much she can't handle it, having less of my attention, and generally not napping, she gets REALLY out of control.  Sitting in the "Blue chair" for a minute is often enough to help her calm down.  I stay there with her, we end with a big snuggle-fest, and she's usually a lot calmer afterwards.  

 

I'm also a big believer that overstimulation is largely physiological, so having some sort of physical component to the solution is a good idea.  DD has always been calmed (to sleep, even!) by having her back rubbed so quickly that it jiggles her whole body.  Is there anything like that for your DS? 

post #7 of 10

when ds is freaking out and needs to be diverted right away I give him a popsicle! I know this is not a popular  method with some people- especially those who are trying to work out food issues and food behaviours- but I am pretty at peace with food stuff and feel like it works when I just need to totally shift gears for him. Or a cookie.

Just adding- I don't use this as a regular thing such as how to control his behaviour- more just in moments when I really need to divert him.

post #8 of 10

DD is 26th months. If I'm out and about I try giving her a smoothie snack, stickers, my keys, OR

 

Asking her a question about her environment like "Where can I find toilet paper? Where is mommy's nose?" basically anything to get her to LOOK at me so I can make eye contact and reconnect. I don't believe in time-outs only time-ins where we sit and talk. I make a lot of eye contact and talk about something that is pleasant. Most of the time I can ask her a question about something that I know she is interested in and get a LOT of information from her. I use that trick a lot when I brush her teeth. Tonight I asked her what toys she played with when she was at a friend's house. She told me in the same order that she played with them.

 

It takes persistence. But it pays off. I think most of the time when she gets crazy and hyper she just doesn't know how to come back down. Most of the time a little conversation and something calm to think about is all she needs. Forcing her to do anything, go anywhere or cease and desist is just a recipe for more freakout. Gently untangle the mess.

post #9 of 10

I would recommend planning ahead bringing snacks, books and also having realistic (low) expectations of shopping anywhere with a 2 1/2 yr old!

My dd still spent time in the sling at that age. I felt that it helped her regulate herself and stay calm longer through the day if she had some real physical tune-in-with-Mommy time in the sling. I have a Maya Wrap and so could adjust the top fabric very snug and stuff her arms down in just like a little toddler straight-jacket :)

Kids that age are so busy I think even they are overwhelmed by their frenetic pace at times, and easily overstimulated.

post #10 of 10
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I'm loving all the idea, thanks guys. 

 

I have been trying my super hardest to keep them fed precisely on time and to even be one step ahead and have snacks ready before they are needed. Its hard! 

 

We have also been reading so much more than usual, since that is their current favorite activity.  I just notice when the craziness is getting to be a bit much, and ask one of the boys where a certain book is, which sends them running to find it, then bring it back to me, then they sit through it and ask for book after after book after book.  Time consuming, but lately it has been worth it. 

 

I also brought a book to the mall today, and gave that to my ds1 instead of the usual pretzel or cracker "stroller snack" and he seemed so much more ... agreeable.

 

And as for the time outs, bah .. although I also do not agree with them, this is the one thing my dh really wants to try.  I generally always overrule him when it comes to child related activities/foods/tv shows/etc and I can tell he is getting a bit ... resentful.  I asked him to only try a time out when ds1 has physically hurt ds2, and to stay with him, and to make sure he explains what the time about was about and that he wasn't mad, just needs ds1 to take a break.  All in 2.5 yr old talk, of course :)  Not ideal, but with the extra book readings and being on top of snacks, the possibility of a time out has practically diminished. 

 

Thanks again mamas.

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