"The Trouble with the ANTI “Anti-Vaccine” Movement"

[shiningpearl]

The Trouble with the ANTI “Anti-Vaccine” Movement: How They Hijack the Issue; Distort the Facts; and Totally Miss the Point

http://www.ageofautism.com/2012/02/the-trouble-with-the-anti-anti-vaccine-movement-how-they-hijack-the-issue-distort-the-facts-and-tota.html

I loved this!  Enjoy!

[Bokonon]

 Thorough and absolutely needs to be said.

[Asiago]

Thank you for posting this.

[LucyLoretta]

This article is full of nonsense. The only real reason we don't like the 'anti-vaccine movement' is that it is endangering our kids. If you want to put your children at risk that's up to you but diseases don't work like that, they are transmitted easily.

If you want to not vaccinate your kids then they should be put in quarantine from the rest of society.

[katelove]

NM
Edited by katelove - 2/19/12 at 3:30am

[Taximom5]

Originally Posted by LucyLoretta 

This article is full of nonsense. The only real reason we don't like the 'anti-vaccine movement' is that it is endangering our kids. If you want to put your children at risk that's up to you but diseases don't work like that, they are transmitted easily.

If you want to not vaccinate your kids then they should be put in quarantine from the rest of society.

And if you vaccinate your kids and they have a severe reaction to the vaccines, they--and you, as their caretaker--will effectively be quarantined from the rest of society, assuming that they survive.

http://childhealthsafety.wordpress.com/2011/04/25/us-concedes-hep-b-causes-lupus/

US GOVERNMENT CONCEDES HEP B VACCINE CAUSES SYSTEMIC LUPUS ERYTHEMATOSIS

http://www.vaccinationnews.com/DailyNews/May2001/E-NewsMSVaxVictComp.htm

A French court has upheld a lower court ruling that found a link 
between GlaxoSmithKline's hepatitis B vaccine and multiple 

sclerosis

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-kirby/new-study-hepatitis-b-vac_b_289288.html

HEPATITIS VACCINE TRIPLES THE RISK OF AUTISM IN INFANT BOYS

A Review of Compensated Cases of Vaccine-Induced Brain Injury

Pace Environmental Law Review, vol. 28, no. 2, 2011

Mary Holland, Louis Conte, Robert Krakow and Lisa Colin

Available in full * at http://digitalcommons.pace.edu/pelr/vol28/iss2/6

I include these links for the benefit of lurkers and new readers on this site, not for the troll.

 

[slmommy]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taximom5 
A Review of Compensated Cases of Vaccine-Induced Brain Injury

Pace Environmental Law Review, vol. 28, no. 2, 2011

Mary Holland, Louis Conte, Robert Krakow and Lisa Colin

Available in full * at http://digitalcommons.pace.edu/pelr/vol28/iss2/6

omg... I started reading this...(might take me a while to get through it all)

Quote:

In addition to broad liability protection, the 1986 Law also provides another shield to manufacturers under federal law. (48) The 1986 Law permits them the right to not disclose known risks to parents or guardians of those being vaccinated. Resting on the "learned intermediary" doctrine, manufacturers bear no liability for giving, or failing to give accurate or complete information to those vaccinated, and have only to provide relevant information to doctors, who must give patients CDC Vaccination Information Statements.(49)  (page 488)

 

I didn't know this, this is still current? I wonder what "relevant information" to doctors includes...

[slmommy]

Quote:

The Court articulated the reason for this lower burden then that necessary in civil court "to allow the finding of causation in a field bereft of complete and direct proof of how vaccines affect the human body.52   (page 489)

Thanks for the link taximom!! 

[Alenushka]

In the last 20 years ratesbof vaccination went down.

The rates of autism continued to go up.

[BansheeTaco]

LucyLoretta, just thought you might want to give a quick read to the guidelines for this specific forum:

"This forum was created to serve the needs of members who have made the decision not to vaccinate or are seriously exploring making this decision. It is not a place to denigrate or criticize those who do vaccinate."

[Imakcerka]

I think she's the same person from yesterday.  I checked her page and she commented on the same things the other one did.  Same junk same person.  Don't feed her.
 

Originally Posted by BansheeTaco 

LucyLoretta, just thought you might want to give a quick read to the guidelines for this specific forum:

"This forum was created to serve the needs of members who have made the decision not to vaccinate or are seriously exploring making this decision. It is not a place to denigrate or criticize those who do vaccinate."

[slmommy]

Originally Posted by Alenushka 

In the last 20 years ratesbof vaccination went down.

The rates of autism continued to go up.

Huh Alenushka... you know what else happened? The vax schedule increased dramatically... Added chicken pox, rota, hep A, Hib, Prevnar, Rota... more vaccines and more visits crowded with multiple shots.

(should I not being feeding her either?)

[miriam]

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Edited by miriam - 5/27/12 at 9:13am

[Taximom5]

Originally Posted by slmommy 

Huh Alenushka... you know what else happened? The vax schedule increased dramatically... Added chicken pox, rota, hep A, Hib, Prevnar, Rota... more vaccines and more visits crowded with multiple shots.

Right--the number of vaccines on the pediatric schedule has TRIPLED, hepatitis B vaccine is now given at birth rather than later, 6-month-olds are given 2 themerosal-preserved flus shots, and then another flu shot every year for the rest of their lives, and pregnant women are now being given thimerosal-preserved flu shots at all stages of pregnancy.

And don't forget 3 shots of Gardasil, now approved for 9-year-old girls AND boys.

[Bokonon]

Originally Posted by Taximom5 

Right--the number of vaccines on the pediatric schedule has TRIPLED, hepatitis B vaccine is now given at birth rather than later, 6-month-olds are given 2 themerosal-preserved flus shots, and then another flu shot every year for the rest of their lives, and pregnant women are now being given thimerosal-preserved flu shots at all stages of pregnancy.

And don't forget 3 shots of Gardasil, now approved for 9-year-old girls AND boys.

Besides, autism isn't one of the reasons that most non-vaxers don't vax.  Yet another myth that the mainstream haters believe apparently.

[Taximom5]

Originally Posted by Alenushka 

In the last 20 years ratesbof vaccination went down.

The rates of autism continued to go up.

Thimerosal-preserved pediatric vaccines continued to be in use until at least 2004, at which time thimerosal-preserved flu shots were put on the pediatric schedule, beginning with 2 shots at 6 months.  In addition, thimerosal-preserved flu shots began to be given to women at all stages of pregnancy.

The number of aluminum-containing vaccines has dramatically increased, as has the number of vaccines containing human DNA.  Both have been associated with autoimmune disorders--and with autism:

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-31727_162-20049118-10391695.html

http://www.prweb.com/releases/2012/1/prweb9146755.htm

[slmommy]

The link for Helen V. Ratajczak's "Theoretical Aspects of Austism: Causes - A Review" was broken in the cbs link...

http://www.cogforlife.org/ratajczakstudy.pdf  for those interested.

[AdinaL]

LucyLoretta's membership has been removed.  Sorry for the intrusion, and thank you to everyone who reported.

[SmallBlondeOne]

I understand asking for people to be respectful and non-judgmental, but if we ask people to stay silent if they disagree we are just making sure that we only listen to ideas that agree with their own, even if different ideas might help us better protect our children.

I'm trying to make the best decision I can and sort through all of the information and misinformation out there, and I really need there to be a place where I can hear information from all sides.  For my sake and the sake of all confused parents out there, please don't silence ANY opinion on this subject, and let us make up our own minds.

[Bokonon]

Originally Posted by SmallBlondeOne 

I understand asking for people to be respectful and non-judgmental, but if we ask people to stay silent if they disagree we are just making sure that we only listen to ideas that don't agree with their own.

I'm trying to make the best decision I can for my child and my community, and I really need there to be a place where I can hear information from all sides.  For my sake and the sake of all confused parents out there, please don't silence ANY opinion on this subject.

This is the "I'm Not Vaccinating" forum, where members should feel free to express their thoughts and opinions without being subjected to debate and ridicule by others who disagree with them.