Shell, my main symptoms are fatigue (usually in the afternoon through the evening -- not terrible but definitely there), back pain and tender breasts (although not nearly as tender as I expected? Is it weird that I want my breasts to be raging sore?). I've had more vivid dreams, too. That's about it! I definitely thought it would be a lot more.
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Taking the Scenic Route...to a BFP - Page 71post #1401 of 221910/17/12 at 3:32pmpost #1402 of 221910/17/12 at 3:55pmpost #1403 of 221910/17/12 at 4:02pm
I stopped all supplements except my prenatal, progesterone and my wacko herbal tincture she wants me to continue. I've been thinking of restarting Vit D. I'm going to wait until my OB appt though to ask.
On the same topic, what do you guys think of the gummy pre-natals? I've always taken super high-quality vitamins, and I'm so burnt out on the taste and cost. Thoughts?post #1404 of 221910/17/12 at 5:04pmpost #1405 of 221910/17/12 at 5:06pmpost #1406 of 221910/17/12 at 7:19pmThread StarterDrowning in paint here...
skj omg!!! Congrats...!!! We hacve become so lucky!!
I cant believe our turn of events!!
Tf...strange..i think they shuld repeat it..and weeeee hee we go egg retrieval
Mchrissy...sweet boy in that pic
Shell..i hope your mom is healing...WHEN ARE YOU TESTING???????
BEBE still so happy...cant wait for u/s pics
Me cd10...this house is consuming me...off the bk this weekend to see dh and jump his bones!!post #1407 of 221910/17/12 at 7:29pm
TF - WTH. I forgot who said it, but this is truly what ivf is for. We are so lucky we live in a time when we can get around these setbacks. They did icsi on me, I was kind of mad because there was nothing wrong with DH sperm, but we got great results, so can't really complain. You are going to get there. Just make sure DH wears boxers and doesn't stand in front of the microwave ;) Besides, you only need a few good ones!!! And he has them. Hang in there! Your protocol sounds similar to mine. This cycle will feel like FOREVER and the bcp are so annoying.
Bebe - I have been having crazy dreams too! I dreamed I had the babies and 1 had 3 eyes and the other had 6 ears. I swear it was because I watched honey boo boo before bed.
xoxoxoxpost #1408 of 221910/18/12 at 5:00am
I'm back at a computer. Hurrah!
So much to catch up on!
SKJ - once again, woohoo!! Now I have to ask you what was different about this cycle? I know you were on herbs this time around... do you think that made a difference? Anything else? Let's make a deal... you don't have survivor's guilt and I won't feel guilty about continuing to obsess over this very frustrating ttc business! We are at different stages but all headed in the same direction :)
BeBe- I love the beating heart on your siggie!! I take the gummy prenatals... when I got pregnant the first time I was on food based vitamins but I had to take like six a day and that was just yucky, I've since tried several versions and finally went to gummy because I wanted one less thing to hate :) So excited for your ultrasound!! That's tomorrow, right? EEK!
Shell - I'm so sorry for your loss. I really hope this is your month and you do get to give your momma something positive to focus on. I think it's promising that you don't have sore breasts.... anything out of the ordinary could mean a bfp in my book! :) When are you testing?
Sherry - how is the house coming along? Wishing you lots of bone-jumping success
Toothfairy - you may have missed my post in all the excitement... do you mind telling me what your TSH level was? When mine was tested in January it was 1.9 and I was told that was fine... they haven't mentioned testing for antibodies... wondering if that is something I should push for? I think you and shell are going to be our next bfps!
Greenmum - how you feeling, mama?
Devilish - looking forward to getting to know you!
Chrissy - where are you at cycle-wise?
Gtree - your dream cracked me up. The fact that you watch honey boo boo cracked me up as well! That would give anyone nightmares!
AFM - Vegas was awesome! Perfect vacation. Great food, great hotel, great show (saw absinthe) GREAT sex... it was pretty much perfect all around. But now... back to reality. This is going to be long. Sorry.
Still don't have an answer from my RE. I called last week (after waiting a week) and left a reminder message. The nurse left a message the following day saying that she was having trouble getting a hold of the doctor, he was out of the office for two days, but she would get back to me as soon as she could. Fast forward to yesterday... I called in again and asked about switching to a different doctor. The next available appt isn't until Nov 27 which would mean delaying everything. I wouldn't be against delaying things in favor of being with a doctor who I felt was paying attention BUT unfortunately financing issues require us to move faster or else we may not have access to financing help with the freaking expensive meds. So I then asked to talk to the nurse again. Told her it will be two weeks today that I've been waiting for a reply. She was very confusing in her response. On one hand she said she still didn't have an answer from the doctor but on the other hand she was trying to convince me that EPP isn't for everyone and that the protocol the doctor picked was best for my situation. I told her that is fine if they don't think EPP is right for me but I just want an explanation as to why it isn't and why they think the antagonist protocol will work. I told her I felt like if I were to just fall off the face of the earth and never call them they would never notice. And that was very disconcerting considering I have been with them since January. She assured me that wasn't the case (but wasn't very convincing) and then said she would have the doctor call me that day. Of course, he didn't.
I don't know what to do, you guys. I feel like my hands are tied. If I didn't have to worry about money I would just find a place out of state. But considering I do have to worry about money and these guys are the most experienced in dealing with DOR in Florida (I found the SART website where you can filter by cases) - I guess I just need to find a way to make peace with this process and move forward. It also worried me that the nurse said that they don't expect success in the first IVF that it can take three or four! It's one thing if I have embryos to freeze and I'm doing FET for the other IVFs but if I don't respond well then that's a hell of a lot of money! I'm trying to make peace with worst case scenarios right now in order to feel confident moving forward... if this one fails, then I *guess* I still have time to wait however long I will need to wait to get the money together to go again... it's just going to be at least a year, I'm sure...
I'm just so afraid of failing.post #1409 of 221910/18/12 at 7:09am
SKJ! Congrats!!! Omg!
So does it worry anyone else that my doubling time is 1.15 days... does that seem fast? Should I worry it's happening too fast, every website says 48 to 72 is normal, I don't want to be above average or anything just normal? My boobs are sore- larger too, I'm tired, but nothing really else.... I could use the morning sickness to put my mind at ease.
The scheduled a Sono for a week from tomorrow..... I'm so mixed on this, happy, scared, nervous!post #1410 of 221910/18/12 at 8:26amHi girls, may I join you here? First I wanted to say congratulations to skj!!
I've been reading the Internet a LOT. I have read a few forums but this is the firs one I've really posted on because it seems really great - both the forum layout and the people posting.
A brief background, I'm 35, my DH is 32. We've been trying since Oct 2011. I know it's only been a year and many have suffered much longer, but it's still such a challenge seeing that stupid bfn every month then getting af. I'm trying not to focus on that at thi moment though, trying to think positive!
I have two girls from my previous marriage that are 7&9. My DH doesn't have any children and he's such an amazing father figure for the girls, I want to do whatever I can to have a baby together with him.
I had a lap/hysterscopy/d&c/hsg a month ago and ovulated 14 days later. We were hoping to catch the egg but alas we did not. Also, I found out that one of my tubes (left) doesn't work at all, like it never developed. That side of my uterus is small too. They found a little endo and removed it and my right tube is great. So that's positive!
Anyhow when af came this time I went to my new dr and after reviewing all of my tests (my hormones and dh's SA are all good) she suggested clomid 50mg from cd 3-7. I've taken three pills (at night) and so far so good! The only side effect so far is it seems to really knock me out so I'm sleeping better. No hot flashes, etc. YET! I don't want to jinx myself, hehe.
So that's my supposedly brief into. Sorry it ran so long!post #1411 of 221910/18/12 at 8:31amOh two things. One, please forgive the iPhone auto correct and my random typos. Two, I forgot to mention that I go in for a follie scan on cd 12. I usually ovulate around cd 14-16 so I'm nervous but hoping it all goes well! After 3 months of this she really wants me to move on to an RE but DH and I aren't sure we are up for medical assistance beyond clomid and maybe trigger shot w/iui. Ivf isn't an option for us, this has to work!post #1412 of 221910/18/12 at 8:57am
TF, thanks for the tip about auto-refill on Amazon!
Sherry, good luck with the bone jumping and yay for CD10!!! October is a lucky month . . . let's keep this going! Can't wait for U/S, too.
Gtree, aww, what a crazy dream! I had a really crazy one last night too -- probably the weirdest one yet!
Indie, yes, U/S tomorrow! All kinds of nervous, but hopeful, too. I'm so happy to hear that Vegas was so great!! Good for you!! We go every couple years . . . last time I was there was super fun -- some friends of ours from San Francisco met us there and we just had a crazy good time. So, I really don't like your RE or his silly nurse. I see what a bind you're in, and since I don't know the specifics of your situation regarding financials and insurance, it's hard for me to totally say what I'd do, but what really bothers me is what she said about them not expecting it to work the first time! What?! That's just ridiculous. Of course it should work the first time! I dunno, I really want you to move on to somewhere else but I know it's not that easy and timing is important, especially with financial situations. Can you move to Mass temporarily? ;) They have a sweet deal! I'm sorry honey . . . think, talk to DH and then make a decision. Once it's done, don't doubt yourself because you are making a decision based solely on the information you have on hand right now. I so understand though . . . I struggled with that same thing over and over, which is why I kept switching.
Greenmum, I really don't think you should worry. My doubling time has been faster too:
Beta 1: 21 to Beta 2: 272 = 34 hour doubling time
Beta 2: 272 to Beta 3: 786 = 26 hour doubling time
Beta 3: 786 to Beta 4: 6,723 = 38 hour doubling time
Hang in there! The sono scares me too, gulp! It's exciting though - stay in the moment. :)
Tammy, welcome and good luck!!! My advice, one step at a time. There are so many emotions that come with this journey, and you'll figure out what feels right to you as you progress. Hoping you get your BFP this month!!post #1413 of 221910/18/12 at 6:30pmGrr! I've been refreshing all day waiting for MDC to be back up. I'm on my iPad, so gonna keep this short, but will be back in full force tomorrow.
Indie - I think the biggest difference this month was meditation. I was so wound up in the whole ttc thing that I really needed to change my outlook. My mantra, meditation, and reconnecting emotionally with dh on vacation helped a lot. I also let go of the urgency and started to believe that it would happen, just maybe not for a while.
As for your situation, can you explain the financing side of it more? If not for that, I would really find a new doctor within the practice. The first re I saw said my clock was ticking and I needed to go straight to ivf. It was so overwhelming. I got a second opinion with my current re and he felt confident I wouldn't need ivf. I just felt so much more comfortable with him. It sucked to wait to get started, but I think you really need to be comfortable with your doc. Maybe before you find another doc, you could call the office where you are and explain that you are having trouble hearing back from the doc and ask to talk to another nurse. It could very well be the nurse. I would make a little stink to the front desk. It is not at all ok for them to make you wait. As for stats, you have been pregnant before and I'm confident you will be again. I don't think you are a difficult case, so I think your confidence in the dic matters more than the stats. It sounds like this place just wants you to do many cycles to get more money. I'm sorry you are dealing with this.
Greenmum - I think your doubling times seem great. I know how scary and stressful this time is. My plan is to do my best to not control what is happening since I know there is nothing I can do.
Tammy - welcome
Sherry - happy jumping
Afm - got my b/w back today. Beta was 53.4 (yay!), progesterone was only 8.43 I asked if I should be concerned bc it is so low and the nurse said not at all bc. Crinone doesn't show up in b/w. needless to say, I've been a little worried. I'm just telling myself that if this is not meant to be, it is what it is. There is nothing I can do. Taking more hpts is not gonna change anything. My next beta is Monday. It's gonna be a looooong weekend.post #1414 of 221910/18/12 at 6:40pm
Finally! MCD is back up so I can post. Yay! LOL
Sherry - Hope the hubby jumping goes great.
Indie - I'm not going to be any help but just wanted to say good luck with the doctor.
Tammy - Welcome!!
GreenMum, Bebe, Skj, and Gtree - Happy pregnancy ladies. It feels good to write that out to y'all!
I know I'm missing people. Please update and sorry!
eta: I can't spell. And, oh! My post number is 1414. lolpost #1415 of 221910/18/12 at 7:33pmIndie - my TSH was fine. I don't know the exact number but I know he said I am not clse to hypothyroid and it could be decades before the antibodies actually effect my thyroid enough to go hypothyroid (though I do need to be checked yearly now). With your miscarriage history& endometriosis, DOR, I'd ask for testing. http://www.bellaonline.com/articles/art21171.asp That talks some about the effcts, low fertilization, high miscarriage. At this point can you scedule an appt to actually meet with and talk to your doctor? Then you can prin some articles and have an actual conversation with him. I agree it is a long wait to not switch til endof November then your finances are screwed up. I think the nurse is prob the one to blame, she obv. Was trying to cover her ass by giving you some lame explanation. I'd push at this point to actually speak to the doctor. Your PCP can prob test your antithyroid antibodies if you cant get into the RE sooner. I'm taking 25mcg of levothyroxine from now until I deliver a baby. By the way, my doc said smilar about the success of first IVF. That they learn a lot even if the first cycle doesnt work. Even not paying for it I have no interest in a second round. I want them to do right by me this time so there isn't a second try. What don't these people get?! I can answer more if you have more questions but I'll be away from Saturday- next Sunday. My advice, actually speak to your doctor, even if you have to call first thing & then again to remind them in the afternoon. Request antithyroid testing (they may have already done it and not mentioned it cuz you are negative).
SKJ- It is true the vaginal progesterone doesn't show on loodwork so you should be fine. Hang in there little guy!!
Tammy- welcome! You will really like it here, all very supportive, we are like family. Hoping for success on clomid for you & waiting for your CD12 results!
Chrissy- i was so annoyed all day that i couldnt log on!
Sherry- any baby yet fom DD??
AFM- leaving really early Saturday and will be gone for a week so don't go looking for me! Neg HPT today, 9dpo. Not expecting it to change & will be enjoying AF on vacation. My IVF cycle starts when I get back (with a month of BCPs).post #1416 of 221910/18/12 at 7:49pm
Ok let me see if I can remeber everyones post's without looking back a ton of times LOL
Indie: OMG how awful!!!!!!!!!! I HATE your RE and his nurse too lol ... I want to go slap them for you.... I don't know how people in the fertility business can be so rude!! I am with you on the finances... if I have IVF it is a one time all eggs inthe basket deal... I will freeze some (if I have extra's) and put them in if for some reason it doesn't work out... But for 15,000.00 IT SHOULD WORK!!! I hope they find compassion <3 ((HUGS))
SKJ: YOU HAVE A BABY IN YOU!!!!!!!!! how exciting!!! WOW we are on a roll the last couple months!! I hope i am next ;-)
Tammy: Welcome , lots of babydust your way!!!
Greenmum: I don't think that is too fast... if it went into the 1000's over a 24 hour period then i would think that is too much.. So happy for you :-)
Gtree: you are so funny!! lol My dreams have been crazy too... I am always pregnant in them so that is good right?
Sherry: Happy Bone jumping ((Giggles))
TF a whole cake?? LOL I wish i had some ice cream cake now!! lol
Chrissy> what CD are you on?
Dolphin? how is it going?
AFM 6 DPO and temp still rising... a tiny bit of breast tenderness today... vivid dreams.... But that is it!!! I am testing next wednesday with a frer then Blood Test next Friday!! OH And my face is all oily and dry ... so I am breaking out UGH .... Work is going better I FINALLY stood up to the Doctor I work for... I actually think he liked being put in his place LOL I have felt really happy the last couple day's , It's a good feeling :-)post #1417 of 221910/19/12 at 7:14amShell - I'm so hopeful for you this month! Fingers crossed. And yay for feeling happy!
TF - have an awesome vacation! I can't wait to follow along with your IVF cycle when you get back.
AFM - I promised myself I wouldn't obsess. Ha! That's a funny joke
I took another HPT today:
Here's what it looked like 2 days ago:
And, here's a side by side, but the one from two days ago is dry in this pic (so likely darker than it was):
So, I think it's getting darker, but not much. Trying to stay calm. I just hate the uncertainty. My mind starts to think about the worst case scenario and how I'm wasting time. Ugh. IF really messes with your head.post #1418 of 221910/19/12 at 7:39amMorning ladies!
Just a quick thank you fr the welcome and to say that the frer darkness isn't a perfect science at all so don't worry about the line not being much darker. If it gets lighter, maybe put a call in but your progression looks fine from all the hpt age stalking I've done in the past year. Congrats again!post #1419 of 221910/19/12 at 7:43ampost #1420 of 221910/19/12 at 9:19am
SKJ, yay for your new beta! Wouldn't worry at all about the progesterone. But of course I'd be the same way. We just can't help ourselves! Your HPTs look great! Mine only got slightly darker day by day, and I do mean slightly. I think things are looking great for you!
Chrissy, thank you!! :)
TF, just remember, I check at CD10 and CD11 and got BFN before a BFP on CD12. If nothing else, how exciting to have your IVF cycle starting when you get back! ENJOY your vacation!! I'll miss you!!
Shell, good for you for standing up to that a@@! Nicely done! CD6 . . . keep the positive thoughts and wait until CD10 to test. Baby dust!!
AFM, we had the U/S this morning and it was terrific! They saw the heartbeat and everything. Really looking forward to my first OB appt next week! So happy :)
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