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Taking the Scenic Route...to a BFP - Page 82post #1621 of 221911/6/12 at 3:33ampost #1622 of 221911/6/12 at 6:42amUgh. Waiting for blood work at the re's office. There is a clearly pregnant lady here. I'm happy for her, considering she has obviously suffered thru IF, but why can't that be me?
I'm still bleeding - day 6. I just want this to be over already. And, doc won't do any rpl testing. But, he wants me to do another saline u/s. will be my third since June!
Sorry to be such a negative nancy this morning. I'll try and find my positive outlook today.
Back with personals in a bit.post #1623 of 221911/6/12 at 7:38amSherry - Man, that is so mean of that FRER! Doesn't it know better?
TF - Yay for good CM! Maybe the meds were interfering? Anyways, it's the little things, right? Thanks for the sticking together comment.
Chrissy - Wow, that's a really great response from DH, but sucks that it's on your shoulders. My DH is totally happy with only one, so I'm in a similar place in that regard. There is no need to make any decisions now. I'm sure your heart will lead you down the right path.
bebe - Thanks, love. It helps to hear others have confidence in my abilities. I know in my heart I will have another child, I just don't know when. I need to be ok with that and not force it, like you said. As for depriving myself, I'm really happy with my diet. I feel so much healthier not eating junk food. I cut out dairy and as soon as I got pg, I had a decaf cappuccino. I felt AWFUL. So, since then, I've been making them with almond milk. I don't think there is any reason to cut out decaf once a day, so I've added that back in. DH thinks I should still not drink b/c I"ve put so much work into this that I don't want to f-ck it up. I am ok with that, but in a few months, I might cave
indie - Let's make a pact to keep cheering the other one on who ends up hear longer, k? I know that all you ladies will be here even if I am the last. Would be really hard though. I just want to keep moving forward.
AFM - Took an HPT this am and it was stark white. Hoping my hcg is very low or zero. The negative HPT made me happy. Funny, right?post #1624 of 221911/6/12 at 9:05am
Chrissy, are you religious? Spiritual? Perhaps some spiritual connection of sorts/meditation might help you decide what to do next. I can understand how it's hard to decide. You have DS, and that's wonderful. I have thought about the same thing in some ways -- that once I have one child, I don't know how much intervention and struggle I want to go through to have a second. Of course I won't know how I really feel until I'm in that position, so of course I have no business saying anything really. I just want you to know that I can understand why it's tough.
Toothfairy, yay for FOUR days of EWCM!! That's amazing -- what a good sign, and you had such great BD timing! Wow . . . I'm so excited for you! Those spermies are going to be able to live strong in all that EWCM so they can get the egg!
SKJ, I'm glad the HPT is back to white for a fresh start! Do you like your RE? I just wonder if you'd be better off giving someone else a try, although I can't remember if this is the "someone else" for you or not. I just want you to get the answers you need. That's great you feel good about your diet and how things are progressing on that front. That's all that matters!
Gtree, thinking of you and hoping things are looking up!!post #1625 of 221911/6/12 at 9:18am
ummm...sherry... please test again! i am by no means an expert but i have peed on literally TONS of FRERs and the only time a line has shown up later is when i've taken it apart... never once have i had one show up later when it was still intact. if you are not preggo then i am DONE with frers. like for real!
skj - negative hpt = fresh start and another chance for take home baby! so, not weird at all!
chrissy - it's hard that your dh isn't as committed to the idea of a second child as you are but his response was great and it sounds like he has given you the green light to do what you think is best. now... just to figure out that "what is best" part.post #1626 of 221911/6/12 at 9:22am
oh! and i can't forget toothfairy! that is so great about your ewcm situation! (ha... i still laugh at cheering on each other's mucus) but seriously, way to go. and great timing! as for me... this is now my second cycle unmedicated. curious how things will go this cycle. i should have a good four unmedicated cycles under my belt before ivf.post #1627 of 221911/6/12 at 9:57ampost #1628 of 221911/6/12 at 11:30amSo, beta came back at 18.7. That is a record dropping rate for me. Woohoo! Let's hope this keeps up. The plan is to go in next week for another beta, unless AF shows up before then. There was no mention of avoiding this cycle, so I'm hoping that the bleeding stops and I ovulate and we can have a natural try. If not, the RE wants me to do injectibles + IUI next month and go in for the saline u/s the first week of stims. I have to talk with DH to figure out what he's thinking. I'm supposed to travel at the end of the month and he's traveling the first week of december, so who knows if the timing is going to work out.post #1629 of 221911/6/12 at 11:46ampost #1630 of 221911/6/12 at 11:56ampost #1631 of 221911/6/12 at 1:47pmpost #1632 of 221911/6/12 at 2:22pmIndie - I asked the RE"s nurse last week if there was any testing that we should be doing since this is the second m/c this year. She asked the RE and he said I should have another SIS to check for any uterine abnormalities that might be causing the mi/c. I had asked specifically about bloodwork and the nurse said the RE said that I don't need it. Didn't ask why. I'm tired of always asking why. I did google about the SIS and I guess it's fairly common to have it done after a m/c. As for during stims, it's so that there isn't a chance that I'm pregnant.
I emailed my acupuncturist for guidance on the medicated vs natural cycle debate I have going on in my head. I'll let you know what she has to say.post #1633 of 221911/6/12 at 6:38pmSo, I've been trading emails with my acupuncturist. She wants to know what meds the re wants me on. She said that boosting ovulation isn't my issue, and that we can use herbs to do that anyways. She said that my issue is holding the pregnancy and "placenta hormones". So, I'm still trying to figure out what to do. I'm leaning towards giving the injectible meds a shot, just to see what my body does. Then, I'll have more info. I wish this decision making was easier!post #1634 of 221911/6/12 at 6:45pmThread StarterHi...AF stormed in today...i didnt think it wouldnt i guess...yes frer not expired, not opened, not grey, perhaps someone passing through, or perhaps sitting out on the back of the toilet during a steamy shower and for several hours....
TF...please please be our November bfp...i am praying to father nelson baker for you...maybe a nice fresh almost saint will help!!!post #1635 of 221911/6/12 at 10:14pm
I read through all your posts, it's hard for me to response - cause normally by the time I am reading, everything is already old news. I am keeping up with how you all are doing.
SKJ - sorry for your loss.
Sherry - congratz on your beautiful grandbaby!
AFM - I had my HSG test today. Procedure was fine and pretty quick. I won't officially get my results from all my tests until the 19th, but it appears my tubes are good and clear. However, holy cramping! I am not feeling so hot tonight. But I am keeping the big picture in mind, this is just temporary and really not that bad. Giving DS a bath the other night, I had a moment of how much I want a younger sibling for him. I only have 3-4 months left before we stop trying, so I am going to do what I can do make it happen. I just need to be positive that it will happen.post #1636 of 221911/7/12 at 4:05amHello everyone, Sorry I feel like an intruder lol! I just love the feeling of family in this forum and decided to join. Congratulations to all those who have had a BFPs! For all those trying, baby dust and hugs to us all. I am a lady of 33 with a hubby of same age trying hard to conceive after having my daughter four years ago (my first, none for hubby yet). I feel like I owe it to him to give him a little one but it seems so hard. I had an m/c in March and since then no little bean has stuck. I have very regular periods (28 days), but this month everything went out of line. AF came 5 days early and I spotted brown for 3 days and started bleeding light on day 4. It got heavier on day 5 and stopped on day 6. During this time I had very sore breasts and felt hungry ever so often (I have added weight as a result!). I did a blood test, but it came out negative. I guess it was just my period, problem is I have lost count of my cycle and dont know when I will ovulate this month. I guess i will just let this month pass and try again next month. I am wondering whether I should just go in for an IUI instead of wasting so much time. Its all so confusing, but I am trying my best to be positive. BABY DUST to all!!post #1637 of 221911/7/12 at 6:13ampost #1638 of 221911/7/12 at 7:28am
SKJ- I'm glad your numbers are down and you can be back on track for trying again. I'm not sure what to think about injectables vs eastern medicine. If it were me, especially since the timing isn't clear on what would be CD1, I think I'd wait for another period and then do injectables. Especially if you have to pay a lot for injectables it seems like a waste to possibly not get a great result right after a m/c. That said, I don't think I could wait out 2 or 3 months trying just herbs but I think one cycle would be good to let your body heal. Weird about doing another SIS but if they think the m/c could leave any particles behind it will be good to have everything flushed out. Does the SIS hurt more or less than an HSG?
MsD- So good to hear from you lady! Glad to hear the HSG was all clear. The cramping is annoying but hopefully you are all flushed out and ready for a sticky baby. I don't recall why you are only trying for a few more months but I will keep praying that it happens fast and you will have a sibling for your son!
sherry- your grandson is so handsome. Seriously, he just looks like a little package of warm snuggles and sunshine. I'm sorry that AF came, that FRER was a serious tease... I hate that we can't look inside and have an answer to whether there was something or wasn't something there. It doesn't change anything, I know, but it would be nice to really know. As far as being the November BFP, I gave it a good ol' college try. The likelihood after 3 years of this boloney is slim but if not, I will be looking at a New Years ish retrieval, so that is good!
indie- hopefully this unmedicated cycle will go better than last- as in an easily identifiable ovulation! What CD are you?
AFM- I had red bleeding this morning. I didn't have sharp ovulation pains like in past months so it surprised me. Maybe I really do get a breakthrough ovulation bleed from the estrogen/progesterone and it isn't the endometriosis. I wish they implanted a little robot camera in my abdomen so it could just hang out there and I could look around when I needed to. I treated myself to a vanilla chai at Dunkins this morning. We are expecting SNOW later today into tomorrow. Hopefully nothing more than an inch or two but man am I not ready for snow yet.post #1639 of 221911/7/12 at 7:41am
Welcome Lucille- Sorry to hear about your miscarriage. Sounds like you've got a lot to think about in the coming months. First, CD 1 is the first day of Full Flow. So it sounds like your AF probably wasn't actually 5 days early, which is a good thing. Spotting can be a sign of a few things (endometriosis, low progesterone) but it could also mean nothing so I wouldn't worry about it unless it continues. From the other symptoms (sore breasts, hunger) it sounds like low progesterone. They are really signs of a weak egg, meaning if the egg is weak the corpus luteum doesn't produce as much progesterone and then causes those symptoms (spotting, sore breasts, carb cravings, headaches, PMS). B6 (100mg daily) throughout your cycle should help the quality of the egg and up your progesterone. There are suppositories that can be prescribed but if you aren't at a year of TTC (a lot of doctors consider a year from miscarriage) they probably won't do anything just yet. If your husband has normal sperm counts and you get good quality/quantity of EWCM than an IUI won't do a whole lot to increase your chances unless you are on medications to make more eggs. We are glad to have you here and hope you can learn from us and us from you. Welcome!post #1640 of 221911/7/12 at 10:25am
welcome, lucille! we are happy to have you here. toothfairy gave a fantastic bit of information above so all i really have to add is that i look forward to getting to know you more!
skj - ah, that makes sense about the u/s. as for herbs vs. injectables... once again, i totally agree with toothfairy... waiting out one cycle for injectables is a good idea but as for waiting out several... i don't know. i (in my humble, obviously not a doctor or acupuncturist opinion) do think injectables will help because even though you are obviously ovulating on your own, low progesterone is typically linked to the egg... so you may be having a "weak" ovulation or needing help recruiting a better, stronger egg... and injectables will definitely help with that (that's why progesterone numbers tend to be so much higher on a medicated cycle and why progesterone supplementation doesn't always mean a viable pregnancy). now, i have no doubt that acupuncture can help you achieve the same results... it just comes down to your preference. either way, i am confident you will end up with a baby as a result. i totally know what you mean about wishing all these decisions were easier. or would just make themselves. like, let's just get you pregnant again right away so we don't have to even think about this anymore!
ms. d - nice to hear from you! glad everything was all clear with the hsg...will be keeping a good thought for you!
sherry - maybe you had a chemical pregnancy? i really can't believe that a frer would do that without just cause! of course, those stupid tests get me excited every time because i will actually watch the test as it develops and there is always a second line for a split second and then it goes away. i think we have just used them way too much and are seeing all the quirks that others wouldn't notice because those bitchez get their bfp so much quicker and easier.
toothfairy - you lucky girl with your obvious ovulation even when not on medication! i'm super hopeful for you this month... i really feel like you could pull this off! can't believe you are expecting snow. i would be excited... but i'm sure that excitement wouldn't last long... enjoy lots of warm drinks and use it to get into the holiday spirit!
bebe - hi mama!! are you feeling any different in your belly? clothes getting tighter yet? just a couple more days until another u/s! can't wait!
afm - cd7. ewcm. we'll just see if it lasts and i end up ovulating or if i will have another cycle like the last one.
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