GreenMum, am really sorry. I know a bit of what it feels like to know you are pregnant and to lose it again. 7 times is really too much. So sorry dear. I would say try to put your mind at ease, try concentrating on doing the things you enjoy the most and take your mind off it. Once again, so sorry dear. I want you to know we will try our best to be here for you when u need to pour it out. 
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Greenmum: Am so sorry dear. I know a little of how it feels like to lose your baby especially after trying hard to get it. So sorry dear. I need you to know that we all have known loss in one way or the other and we absolutely have got your back. Sorry dear 
Indie and SKJ please try to relax. Keep hoping and believing - but with a relaxed mind. I believe miracles happen when we least expect them to.
Gtree: Glad you are okay now.
Bebe: how is the litttle one doing today?
MsDolphin: Keep believing hun!
TF: I wish to God that this will be your lucky cycle. But if its not, I still believe you will get a BFP this year.
Shelly: Do keep up the excitement girl! it works wonders.
MindlessChrissy: 
AFM: Still waiting for next month 
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bebe - Hooray for finding a great doc. I'm so happy to hear that! Sounds like you have all your ducks in a row and now it's time to start relaxing
Can you tell me more about the blood tests and how they compare to CVS and Amnio? I'm very interested.TF - I joined a little later, but next month will be 18 months of TTC. Boo for anniversaries. And, I seriously hope this thread is defunct soon b/c we are all hanging out in the pregnancy section!
Yay for shopping sprees! I need to do that. All my clothes are so old. As for the progesterone, I think you'll be ok. I don't think it will affect your chances this month, but if you get a BFN, blame it on the progesterone. Sorry this is all so confusing and stressful and full of complicated decisions!
Gtree - yay for being home. That must feel like a huge relief. Glad to have you back.
Lucille -
I'm trying to remain positive, but I'm just getting beaten down by the process. It's exhausting and I think I need to let myself feel the negative emotions or they are going to haunt me later.AFM - Just went in for another blood draw to make sure my HCG is back to zero. I'm very confused about what to expect this cycle. I have no signs of ovulation and I'm CD 13. When I'm off meds, my O is somewhat unpredictable. It can be anywhere from CD13 - CD18. So, I'm in that range and no EWCM. I guess I can't expect this cycle to be normal since it's the miscarriage cycle. I guess I had high hopes that I would ovulate at a normal time and get pregnant right away. I'm trying my hardest not to read into any of this and know that I can't force ovulation, and that it's not over until AF shows up - right Bebe??
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The whole m/c thing really screws with my cycle accounting!
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ahhh... nothing like hitting the wrong key and deleting a whole post. grrrr
skj - i'm confused, too, about baselines being done before a period. perhaps they consider a cycle starting once hcg goes to zero? also, can you - or anyone else - explain to me why when they do betas they consider you pregnant if your hcg is above a certain number (i think that number is 5?) but anything less than that certain number, you are not? why would there be hcg present w/o pregnancy? i suppose i could google it but i'm feeling lazy :) sorry about potentially having to wait out a cycle... nothing like getting stalled once again! it could be a good thing, i guess, to not be on meds over the holidays. that's what i've convinced myself of, anyway... :)
tf - ugh. has it really been a year? man, i am so ready to graduate to the parenting forums already. i know parenting brings a whole new set of "problems" but i am very ready to trade in ttc problems for parenting probles, you know what i mean? so, even if your cysts aren't gone this cycle... aren't you doing a cycle of bc before starting IVF? wouldn't that continue to rid your body of the cysts and you still be able to start IVF "on time"? i'm probably missing something... i can't believe you are cooking for that many people on thanksgiving!! we have about that number at our house on christmas but it's potluck, thank goodness!
bebe - man, i want to cry tears of joy when i read that everything is going so well with your pregnancy. after all the loss on here recently, it's so nice to see you and gtree going strong. we need that kind of good mojo on this thread! so happy that you love your new ob!
lucielle - hi lady! i'm in the
mode, too :)
shell, sherry, ms d, gtree, ![]()
afm - going to the mandatory ivf info session tonight. meh. i'm just having a really meh week all around. i'm feeling a bit resentful of all the trouble IF has caused... i know i should focus on the positive aspects but i can't help but feel annoyed that we have to pay so much money for *possibly* getting a baby and that it forces me to completely overhaul my career plans so that i have to make every decision around what will make us the most money. it's so the antithesis of my personality. i've never been one to chase dollar signs, just fulfilling work... but now i feel like i have to make money my number one goal and that's just a hard adjustment to make. again, i KNOW there is so much i have to be thankful for and things could be so much worse... but right now i'm just feeling blah. thank you all for entertaining my blah. :)
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Lucille, thanks for asking -- baby doing well today. :)
SKJ, yes it was such a relief and I swear wouldn't have happened without you, so thanks a million! Even though I didn't end up going with the one your friend recommended, it made me realize that these kind of OBs are out there and with a little searching I found the new one. It's a relief. Now I am trying to do just that and relax! That's right girl, it's not over until mean AF shows up! Keep the faith. I'm sorry that the m/c made things so wonky. I'm hoping that when you go for baselines (a bit confused by the timing too, but let's believe there's a master plan there) everything looks super-duper perfecto!
Indie, thanks :) You are always so supportive. I'm sorry you're feeling blah. It's to be expected though and I say just allow yourself to feel blah! Hopefully the info session tonight is positive and motivating and you feel less blah after. :) Can't wait to hear the update!!
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I've sort of decided to just "trust the process" as my DH would say. I am so tired of all the work I put into TTC. I want to just trust the doc and whatnot, but the system is so impersonal, I feel like I have to me on top of everything to make sure I'm getting the best treatment for me.Indie - Sorry you are feeling blah. I can definitely relate. I say own your feelings. I think the more you feel them, the quicker you will be on the other side of them. And, I like what Bebe said about tonight - hope it gives you some inspiration.
AFM- I saw my acupuncturist last night. We talked about next steps and she said if she were me she would do the injectibles, but not IUI b/c she thought that would be the stressful part. To me, the whole medicated cycle is stressful, not the IUI. In fact, the IUI is probably the least stressful part for me. Anyways, the plan is to do acupuncture once a week, keep up with my bbt charts and take a new blend of herbs. As far as the RE goes. still no response from the nurse. I figure that they have all the diagnostic tools to figure out where I am in my cycle, so if they think now is a good time to start stims, then I'm going to trust them. I think I just need to let go of the pseudo-control that I feel like I have. To that end, I'm going to ask the nurse to keep all the numbers to herself when I do my monitoring. It's so easy for me to google the crap out of things and come up with an alternate method to what the RE is suggesting. I think in order for me to have any chance of success, I just need to trust the doctor and let go.
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At least she had the decency to apologize.
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thanks for commiserating with me, ladies. i probably made it sound worse than it is... the next session is in december and it's two days before my appt with the new RE, so it won't delay anything. now, if we had still been planning to do a cycle in december like the original plan... THEN i'd be having a breakdown. the whole situation was just so unbelievable and yet totally par for the course. just... wow. anyway, the upside is we were able to go to a regina spektor concert at HOB instead (we had purchased tickets several months ago but then thought we were going to have to miss it due to the meeting). so that was a nice consolation.
skj - once again, i so get where you are coming from. at some point we just have to give in and trust the process and turn off our brains. it is so very counterintuitive but i don't know how else to make it through all this nonsense. for me, i have decided that i am just going to believe that this new doctor will be wonderful in every way and everything she tells me she wants to do, even if it is different than what i think we should do, it will be the best plan for me. i figure if i work on believing that then maybe, just maybe, it will come true.
you know, christmas miracles and all.
chrissy - yes, at least she had the decency to apologize. and i can't tell how much that meant to me... i really did have to thank her for it. i would be so much more forgiving of everything... even that huge mistake of them failing to tell me that i had diminished ovarian reserve until six months after the fact... had i gotten a sincere apology. but instead i'm paranoid and bitter. how are you? is your cycle back on track?
toothfairy - what's new, lady???
bebe, shell, sherry, everyone... post!!
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Indie, That post made me so mad! I was worried you would have to delay. I had to do some e-learnings that were much more convenient.
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Thanks for understanding me
The hardest part is that they DO drop the ball on so many things, so if we are crossing their T's and dotting there I's, who's gonna make sure this works? For example, I have no idea when I'm to start injections. If it's tonight, where do I get the meds from at this point. Will my insurance cover them, etc. I'm a planner by nature, so this whole fly by the seat of my pants style is not easy for me. If I could really trust that they had their sh*t together, that would make this so much easier.AFM - I went in for baselines today. Waiting to hear what comes next. The u/s tech asked which day I was on and I said, I have no idea. Wonder what will be in store for me. I'm ok with either jumping right in to injectibles or waiting this cycle out. There are pros and cons to each, so I'm not too anxious about the phone call.
Thinking of all you ladies. Hope to hear from you soon.

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skj - did they do an ultrasound or just blood work? i would imagine that an ultrasound could give them a good idea of if you are ready for stims or not... they could tell by follicle size where you are at in your cycle... and i guess blood work could give that info as well... if your numbers are elevated (lh, fsh, e2) then they will probably wait for you to have a period and redo them? just guessing. as far as not knowing things like where to get the meds if they want you to start tonight... yeah... that would be making anxious, too.
i think the key (maybe?) is for us to trust the process while at the same time keeping our eyes open. i think there is room for both faith and doubt. and there is room for questioning things and double checking and crossing t's and dotting i's. and then there is a time to say ok, i'm choosing to trust now. let's do this.
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So, the plan is to make a baby the good old fashioned way. I wonder why she didn't suggest doing that.
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Hi ya'll .... Just a quick little hi
before I go to bed... WORK HAS BEEN SO BUSY!!
Indie: UGH I was so upset when i read about your class being rescheduled ... But was happy to read that you got itall resolved :-)
SKJ: maybe ou will get that Christmas time BFP
Gtree and Indie.... I didnt have any manditory IVF class.... only a nurse teaching on my meds ...
Bebe: I had a dream about you!! you posted that you were having a girl!! lol
AFM: sorry so short, like I said work has been crazy busy I am there by 645 am and i don't get home till almost 8 pm ... so I am now taking dexemethosone, proveria, estrace, baby asprin, and pre natal vitamins ... I get heartburn like a ball of fire HORRIBLE so I have been drinking baking soda water everyday :-/ and then I got a call today from my pharmacy telling me how much my other drugs are going to be OMG Its more than they told me.... 6653.21 (just for all the injectables) Do you guy's know how devestated I am going to be if this doesn't happen?? It just has to work!! I am just so scared!! I pray everyday for a little miracle
I have to go pass out we have 8 surgeries to do tomorrow before noon... UGH I can't wait to sleep in Saturday !!
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gtree! i didn't see your post yesterday... e-learnings sounds SO much more, i don't know, 2012. that would be so much better. also, I LOVE your new profile pic!!! i'm guessing that is a cleverly disguised preggo pic of you??? makes me squeal like a goofy little girl!
skj - this all sounds super promising for a natural bfp! increased fertility after a m/c and all
and you seem to be ovulating at a very good time. i would be tempted to call back and ask what they saw on my ultrasound but that's just me always wanting too much information... i can't believe she told you it meant a short cycle
that really doesn't help with the whole 'trusting the process' goal. you could have potentially missed an opportunity to make a baby if you didn't know better yourself.
shell - ugh to the unexpected costs. dh and i were just talking about that the other day. we are really wanting to upgrade to a king size bed (since we now have a giant sheep dog who insists on sleeping with us) but i am petrified of spending money until after we get past IVF for that same reason... unexpected costs. this is going to work!! in all of my searching for ways to increase success of IVF, one of the things i loved was a study about making sure you do a lot of laughing after ET. it helps with relaxing, endorphins, etc etc. so i think you and dh should start putting together a marathon of tv shows and movies that make you laugh good and hard! good luck with your crazy busy work schedule! that sounds exhausting!
toothfairy - where are you??? you've been quiet! miss you.
sherry - you've been quiet, too. though i'm guessing that has more to do with helping out with the little one!
bebe - mornin'!
afm - have my dr. appt today to go over thyroid blood work. curious what i'm going to find out. the RE office called me yesterday to move my IVF consult with the new doctor! thankfully it was just moved by a couple of days. praying there are no more delays. have a lovely friday, everyone!
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Indie - Everyday is something new with your stupid doc! This is what makes the process so scary and hard to trust. We know the doc's staff isn't looking out for our best interests, so we have to and that makes it all so much more stressful than it needs to be.
I did have a moment of wanting to ask about the u/s and other bloodwork, but then I thought that it would make me more obsessed, so I'm just going to trust my body to ovulate when she's ready.
AFM - so I was worried I might of missed O yesterday b/c why not worry about something. I thought, with this much EWCM, this HAS to be O day. Well, OPK was dark but not yet positive today and I have more EWCM than I've had in months. I feel like a teenager again! Ah, the little things
So, just going to enjoy the weekend with DH while DD is asleep. Feeling way less obsessed about everything this month and just rolling with the punches. Glad that our natural try will work out timing-wise and I think the timing should be good for next month too in terms of our travel schedules.- indie1976
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after waiting for 45 minutes for my pcp's staff to find my chart, i find out that i am not meeting with my doc but with a nurse practitioner who is completely unfamiliar with why i had blood work in the first place. then i find out that they did not to the thyroid antibodies test (which, you know, was the whole reason for even going to the doctor at all). so they had to redraw blood and i should have results in a couple of days... but thanksgiving... so... yeah.
i did learn, however, that i tested positive for homozygous mthfr and that my tsh is now 2.5 which it should be under 2 by ttc standards. i also found out that even though my lipid panel was perfect, i am super high risk for heart disease (thanks, dad and his quintuple bypass at 51 yrs old) so there is likely all kinds of medications in my future but first i have to see the frickin doctor (who i was supposed to see today!)
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